[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Miner
Danek Duvall wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:40:39PM -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote:
> 
>> I will back this up from the request sponser POV.  In my case an RPE 
>> engineer 
>> had already fixed the bug and putback into Nevada.  However we don't require 
>> people to update the "fixed" in bugster.
> 
> People have suggested that we make this mandatory, rather than optional.
> Another suggestion is to have the gate do it automatically -- I can do this
> pretty trivially, if people feel it would be useful (in whatever context --
> inside or outside Sun).
> 

I'd just as soon you did it automatically.

>> The fixed, committed and integrated fields get updated only when the
>> build closes.  So during  that 2 week period one has to grep through the
>> putback list to figure out which is really non optimal.
>>
>> Furthermore the comment from the same engieer was that they don't have any 
>> visibility if any one from the community is working on a bug.   So adding 
>> that 
>> info would be nice.
> 
> I would suggest, though, that keying off the status field to find out
> whether it's useful to be working on a particular bug is not particularly
> accurate.  I believe that it would be more accurate to use the presence of
> a responsible engineer to know whether it's being worked on (because what
> you *really* want to know, I think, is that a bug is being worked on, not
> that it's finished).  Of course, the RE field may not be available outside.
> If not, perhaps the presence of a value there could be indicated.
> 

Though there's the problem that bugs occasionally get parked on RE's who 
aren't actively working on them (guilty, your honor).

Dave



[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Jonathan Adams
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 03:06:46PM -0800, Danek Duvall wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:40:39PM -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote:
> 
> > I will back this up from the request sponser POV.  In my case an RPE 
> > engineer 
> > had already fixed the bug and putback into Nevada.  However we don't 
> > require 
> > people to update the "fixed" in bugster.
> 
> People have suggested that we make this mandatory, rather than optional.
> Another suggestion is to have the gate do it automatically -- I can do this
> pretty trivially, if people feel it would be useful (in whatever context --
> inside or outside Sun).

And you could mark them "Fix Failed" if they got backed out.  I personally
think this would be a good thing to do.

- jonathan

-- 
Jonathan Adams, Solaris Kernel Development



[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Danek Duvall
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:40:39PM -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote:

> I will back this up from the request sponser POV.  In my case an RPE engineer 
> had already fixed the bug and putback into Nevada.  However we don't require 
> people to update the "fixed" in bugster.

People have suggested that we make this mandatory, rather than optional.
Another suggestion is to have the gate do it automatically -- I can do this
pretty trivially, if people feel it would be useful (in whatever context --
inside or outside Sun).

> The fixed, committed and integrated fields get updated only when the
> build closes.  So during  that 2 week period one has to grep through the
> putback list to figure out which is really non optimal.
> 
> Furthermore the comment from the same engieer was that they don't have any 
> visibility if any one from the community is working on a bug.   So adding 
> that 
> info would be nice.

I would suggest, though, that keying off the status field to find out
whether it's useful to be working on a particular bug is not particularly
accurate.  I believe that it would be more accurate to use the presence of
a responsible engineer to know whether it's being worked on (because what
you *really* want to know, I think, is that a bug is being worked on, not
that it's finished).  Of course, the RE field may not be available outside.
If not, perhaps the presence of a value there could be indicated.

Regardless, I'm happy to make the change I mentioned above.

Danek



[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Bill Rushmore


On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Karyn Ritter wrote:

> Would something like the table I've just created at
> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/bug_reports/oss_bite_size/ help? I need to
> work out the answers to many additional questions surrounding this table
> -- the least of which is how often I can reasonably update the table --
> soon, but wanted to get some early feedback on it.
>

The table is a much nicer way of looking at the bite sized bug list and
can make a big impact on getting someone involved.  As an outsider, the
status column is the only thing that looks confusing to me.  Just make
sure it is clear what kind of status is open for a community member to
work on.

Bill
rushmores.net



[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Dan Price
On Wed 08 Mar 2006 at 10:49AM, Karyn Ritter wrote:
> I'll figure out where to put the definitions. This the real status that 
> is in Bugster, so we need to document it anyway

So, I wonder if we could use Perl's WWW::Mechanize [1] or something
equivalent to automate the updating of pages.  Then, Karyn, we could
write you something which would gather up this info and post it
every 2 hours, or whatever.

Maybe we could have a Java package [2] (as well as any other languages
[3]) that manipulates the website as well-- I personally don't like the
endless CPAN machinations one must go through to get a useful perl.

So this is a fun and challenging project for someone.  Any takers?

[1] http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/01/22/mechanize.html
[2] http://htmlunit.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize/

-dp

-- 
Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp



[request-sponsor] CR 6368816: closed by integration of Intel ACPI CA update

2006-03-08 Thread Dana H. Myers
Rob Benson reported CR 6368816, an issue in the Intel-maintained ACPI CA 
source.
I forwarded the report to Bob Moore at Intel, and a subsequent release 
of ACPI CA
source incorporates the suggested changes.

CR 6368816 itself is technically a duplicate of CR 6354619 - update to 
the 20060217
release of Intel ACPI CA source, and has been closed as such.  It was an 
oversight
to not mention Rob in the putback email.

However, Rob Benson deserves credit for reporting this issue, which has 
now been
fixed for not only Solaris, but all Intel ACPI CA clients (FreeBSD, 
Linux and MacOS).

Thanks -
Dana




[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Karyn Ritter
I'll figure out where to put the definitions. This the real status that 
is in Bugster, so we need to document it anyway

Thanks,

Karyn

Bill Rushmore wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Karyn Ritter wrote:
> 
> 
>>Would something like the table I've just created at
>>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/bug_reports/oss_bite_size/ help? I need to
>>work out the answers to many additional questions surrounding this table
>>-- the least of which is how often I can reasonably update the table --
>>soon, but wanted to get some early feedback on it.
>>
> 
> 
> The table is a much nicer way of looking at the bite sized bug list and
> can make a big impact on getting someone involved.  As an outsider, the
> status column is the only thing that looks confusing to me.  Just make
> sure it is clear what kind of status is open for a community member to
> work on.
> 
> Bill
> rushmores.net
> ___
> opensolaris-discuss mailing list
> opensolaris-discuss at opensolaris.org



[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] 1 new request-sponsor putback: 39 total

2006-03-08 Thread Karyn Ritter
[Apologies if this has already been responded to... I'm catching up.]

The code for bugs.opensolaris.org (and bugs.sun.com) are not 
sophisticated enough to be able to do this. The application we use 
currently shares the same code base as bugs.sun.com. Because Suggested 
Fix often contains code that isn't open sourced (at least for the Java 
bugs), this is not a field they ever want displayed. We could 
(potentially) do this if we split the code base, but that is a 
*significant* amount of work that we don't have the resources for right now.

We're definitely still investigating having this done by the group that 
owns the application, but we're also focusing on the next-generation bug 
tracking functionality to address all of our needs.

- Karyn

Valerie Anne Bubb wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Artem Kachitchkine wrote:
> 
>>
>>> How would it determine which bugs those fields can be exported for?
>>> We can't do it for all bugs, since some contain source which cannot
>>> be disclosed publically.
>>
>>
>> It's not an unsolvable problem. E.g. there could be a special field 
>> accessible only from Sun, that the sponsor would set.
>>
> 
> Why can't we just export the Suggested Fix field we have
> internally?  These are all oss-bitesize bugs, so the code is
> out there already. (I know we can't present Suggested Fix
> for *all* bugs).
> 
> Valerie



[request-sponsor] Re: [osol-discuss] Contributing Code

2006-03-08 Thread Karyn Ritter
Bill,

Bill Rushmore wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> 
> 
>>* For those who are thinking about contributing code, what can we do to
>>   help you get started? Would more oss-bite-size bugs help?
> 
> 
> More oss-bite-size would be nice.  I also have a couple of suggestions for
> the bug list.  One is to make sure the bug status is accurate.  I worked
> on a bite size bug only to find after I submited it that it is was already
> taken care of.  I would also like to see a way to search on bugs by skill
> needed since the code base is so large and diverse.  For example, I would
> like to work on Java stuff since that is my background and I certainly
> wouldn't mind working on things like smc, etc.
> 
We've definitely been kicking around some ideas about making more 
oss-bite-size bugs available and providing better/clearer information 
about them on the site.

Would something like the table I've just created at 
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/bug_reports/oss_bite_size/ help? I need to 
work out the answers to many additional questions surrounding this table 
-- the least of which is how often I can reasonably update the table -- 
soon, but wanted to get some early feedback on it.

As we've already discussed, there are a number of features that are part 
of bugs.opensolaris.org that we want to change. In the meantime, I'd 
like to workaround some of them for oss-bite-size.

Please provide comments ideas about this and other ways we can help make 
the community code contribution process better.

Thanks,

Karyn