Re: Purchasing a new system

2001-01-25 Thread Michael Lapham

Yet another thought about backups.

Currently we have a dedicated NT server with 280 GB of cheap IDE drives
inside. Multiple times, in a day, it duplicates the changes from critical
servers (two remotely). The changes are usually no more than 300 MB per
execution.

The duplication serves several purposes...

1) If for any reason the original server fails the data (accurate to within
4-12 hours) can be immediately published from the backup server.
2) Tape backup speeds, of the local drives, average between 360-520 MB
minute.
3) Saves wear and tear on the tape system for remote or slow backups.

Currently we are using an Exabyte EZ-17 Autoloader with a Mammoth 2 drive. I
did not consider a DLT as several years ago I learned that, when backing up
data, DLT needed to be constantly streaming data. The process of stopping
and starting caused excessive wear on the unit. Currently, I have not been
able to find anyone to confirm this has been overcome.

For workstations we use a HP DDS-3 tape drive with a Mac G3. It runs several
backup server scripts, which backup workstations daily. The backups are to
multiple files. Each backup file is reset after 2 months with a different
one being reset each 2 weeks. These are then backed up to tape monthly.

I know this has a problem of figuring out which archived tape the
workstation's data may be on. Our expectation is that, any recovery from a
workstation (not server) are files that are two months old or less, which
are continually online.



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Re: Backup server question

2001-01-18 Thread Michael Lapham

Yet another method.

I have four different backup server scripts. All of them follow these
patterns.
1   Run from 7:00 am to 6:00 pm.
2   Attempt to backup laptops daily
3   Backs up to two file sets each (A  B), rather than tape. This is to
reduce wear and tear on any slower network connections. Two are used to
insure availability of backup data when alternate backup set is reset.
4   On alternate bi-weekly cycles each file set is reset and backup all
members of its group.
5   Sets are backed up to tape every three months.


These are the different scripts in use

1   PC laptops - Script targets specific directories such as Mail,
Documents and PIM files.
2   Mac laptops - Users assign a backup label to folders or files to
determine what to backup. I preset the  preferences, mail and browser
folders. The last label is reserved for this function.
3   Encrypted file set - For obvious reasons such as the publisher.
4   All Data - For systems that are so complex to setup that I don't
want to rebuild them.



 From: Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:59:10 -0500
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 Subject: Re: "Backup server" question
 
 At 10:46 PM -0600 1/17/01, Steve Yuroff wrote:
 Hello, list!
 
 I've read the manual, reviewed the archives, but I'm still not sure
 if this is a good idea, (or if I completely "get it") so I'd like
 the list's input:
 
 I'm responsible for a 100bT network with about 50 desktops, 15
 laptops and 3 servers, backing up to a DDS-3 8 tape autoloader, and
 perhaps soon to an AIT-II autoloader.  I've been using a backup
 script to handle the backups, but it has the problem of missing the
 commonly absent laptops.  I'm looking at using the "backup server"
 feature to access the laptops on demand.  What I'm not clear on is
 the best way to do it, and have 2 ideas:
 
 1) Have a script that backs up all the desktops (user machines and
 servers) overnight, and backup all the laptops via Backup Server
 starting early in the day. This way, the laptops left overnight
 could get backed up before the users arrive, and those that arrive
 later will get addressed as they're available. However, if I do
 this, can both methods write to the same storage set?
 
 2) Do all the machines via Backup Server.  But is there a way to use
 Backup Server and guarantee that Retrospect won't try to access
 desktops and servers during the day, but only at night?  It seems to
 me that if I make the active time start at midnight with a "backup
 every 24 hrs" set, it should work that way, but I'm not confident
 I'm right.
 
 I may end up going to the style recommended by Craig in another
 email, once we get our new tape drive system. But I started with an
 experiment with a backup server script, so this is what I do:
 
 Laptop backup server runs from 8:30 to 3:30, Monday-Friday. All the
 laptop user's hard drives (not the client itself, otherwise it will
 back up floppies and zips and annoy the users) are in this backup
 set. Users can defer the backup to a later time, but know when it
 ends so they plan accordingly. They have their own backup tape.
 
 Desktop and servers run on a regular script, which runs at night.
 They have their own set of backup tapes, which rotates every night
 for two weeks of tapes.
 
 I hope this helps!
 
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