Client initiated backup

2000-03-10 Thread Kristin Connelly

I'm running the Mac version of Retrospect and each night the backup 
server backs up all of the client machines.

I would like to write a script that will allow each client to use the 
control strip module to initiate an immediate backup during the day 
at a time of their choice, but I don't want this script to try to 
back up the client computers on its own.

Is there a way to make such a script?  Is there a way to use the CSM 
to do an immediate backup up if the client is not part of a script 
that is active all the time?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Client initiated backup

2000-03-10 Thread Luke Jaeger

That must be some conscientious group of users you have there. Maybe an
applescript could make this work.

The backup server is designed around the principle that users will never
initiate a backup of their own, at least not according to any reliable
schedule. Even if this is going to be part of your backup scheme, I hope
you will continue to run regular backups at night off the server... user
backup is too important to be left to the users!


Kristin Connelly wrote:
> 
> I'm running the Mac version of Retrospect and each night the backup
> server backs up all of the client machines.
> 
> I would like to write a script that will allow each client to use the
> control strip module to initiate an immediate backup during the day
> at a time of their choice, but I don't want this script to try to
> back up the client computers on its own.
> 
> Is there a way to make such a script?  Is there a way to use the CSM
> to do an immediate backup up if the client is not part of a script
> that is active all the time?
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> --
> 
> Kristin A. Connelly, Systems Administrator
> 
> Tehabi Books
> 1201 Camino del Mar, Suite 100, Del Mar, CA 92014-2568
> Tel: 858-481-7600   Fax: 858-481-3247   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Get FREE Electronic Postcards at http://www.tehabi.com/postcards/
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Re: Client initiated backup

2000-03-10 Thread Matthew Tevenan

An easy way to do this is to create a new Backup Server script that has an
interval of 99 days between backups to the same backup set as your nightly
script. Make it active all day long. Your users can basically request a
backup whenever they want without a server-initiated backup to interrupt
them during the day (unless it's been 99 days since this script last backed
them up).

For more details on this, see p. 133 of both the Retrospect 4.2 and 5.0
User's Guides, under "Strategy 7‹On-Demand Backup Server."

Regards,

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
925.253.3050 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> From: Luke Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: Disney Magazine Publishing
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:49:23 -0500
> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
> 
> That must be some conscientious group of users you have there. Maybe an
> applescript could make this work.
> 
> The backup server is designed around the principle that users will never
> initiate a backup of their own, at least not according to any reliable
> schedule. Even if this is going to be part of your backup scheme, I hope
> you will continue to run regular backups at night off the server... user
> backup is too important to be left to the users!
> 
> 
> Kristin Connelly wrote:
>> 
>> I'm running the Mac version of Retrospect and each night the backup
>> server backs up all of the client machines.
>> 
>> I would like to write a script that will allow each client to use the
>> control strip module to initiate an immediate backup during the day
>> at a time of their choice, but I don't want this script to try to
>> back up the client computers on its own.
>> 
>> Is there a way to make such a script?  Is there a way to use the CSM
>> to do an immediate backup up if the client is not part of a script
>> that is active all the time?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> --
>> 
>> Kristin A. Connelly, Systems Administrator
>> 
>> Tehabi Books
>> 1201 Camino del Mar, Suite 100, Del Mar, CA 92014-2568
>> Tel: 858-481-7600   Fax: 858-481-3247   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> Get FREE Electronic Postcards at http://www.tehabi.com/postcards/
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> 
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> Disney Magazine Publishing
> Northampton, Massachusetts
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Re: Client initiated backup

2000-03-10 Thread Scott Ponzani

I have a question about Stategy 7: Do I make one backup server script, and
include ALL clients and ALL the sets? If one client requests an ASAP backup,
will it back up all of them? And, to where? Or, do I make a 99-day server
script for each client?

Also, right now, I'm using only backup scripts. I'm emailed a message each
time a script is completed. However, when I have a backup server script
enabled and running, I'm emailed only once, with the results of all the
*regular* scripts. Why is that?

Cordially,

  Scott Ponzani
  _
  Communications Coordinator
  Christian Academy in Japan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> From: Matthew Tevenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:23:15 -0800
> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
> 
> An easy way to do this is to create a new Backup Server script that has an
> interval of 99 days between backups to the same backup set as your nightly
> script. Make it active all day long. Your users can basically request a
> backup whenever they want without a server-initiated backup to interrupt
> them during the day (unless it's been 99 days since this script last backed
> them up).
> 
> For more details on this, see p. 133 of both the Retrospect 4.2 and 5.0
> User's Guides, under "Strategy 7‹On-Demand Backup Server."
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthew Tevenan
> Technical Support Specialist
> Dantz Development Corporation
> 925.253.3050 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> From: Luke Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Organization: Disney Magazine Publishing
>> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:49:23 -0500
>> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
>> 
>> That must be some conscientious group of users you have there. Maybe an
>> applescript could make this work.
>> 
>> The backup server is designed around the principle that users will never
>> initiate a backup of their own, at least not according to any reliable
>> schedule. Even if this is going to be part of your backup scheme, I hope
>> you will continue to run regular backups at night off the server... user
>> backup is too important to be left to the users!
>> 
>> 
>> Kristin Connelly wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm running the Mac version of Retrospect and each night the backup
>>> server backs up all of the client machines.
>>> 
>>> I would like to write a script that will allow each client to use the
>>> control strip module to initiate an immediate backup during the day
>>> at a time of their choice, but I don't want this script to try to
>>> back up the client computers on its own.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to make such a script?  Is there a way to use the CSM
>>> to do an immediate backup up if the client is not part of a script
>>> that is active all the time?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Kristin A. Connelly, Systems Administrator
>>> 
>>> Tehabi Books
>>> 1201 Camino del Mar, Suite 100, Del Mar, CA 92014-2568
>>> Tel: 858-481-7600   Fax: 858-481-3247   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 
>>> Get FREE Electronic Postcards at http://www.tehabi.com/postcards/
>>> 
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>> 
>> top of the world,
>> 
>> Luke Jaeger, Technology Coordinator
>> Disney Magazine Publishing
>> Northampton, Massachusetts
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> Any opinions expressed in this message are my own and may not represent
>> the opinions of Disney Publishing, etc etc etc.
>> 
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Re: Client initiated backup

2000-03-10 Thread Matthew Tevenan

Scott,

Make one Backup Server script and include only the clients you wish to give
the option of daytime backups.

Include only one backup set. Including more than one is possible, but will
complicate things way too much.

Regarding your second issue, read the following, from the Retrospect User's
Guide:

While Backup Server is running, the Retrospect Event Handler sends a summary
e-mail every twelve hours. (If you prefer a different time interval, open
the script and change the property kSendBackupServerReport value to the
desired number of hours.) This summary e-mail contains the error and
success messages for each volume in the Backup Server script. It also
contains the error and success messages for regular scripts that run while
Backup Server is running.

NOTE: When you stop Backup Server, the events which occurred after the last
summary e-mail are not included in an e-mail.

Does this sound like what's happening in your situation?

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
925.253.3050 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> From: Scott Ponzani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:27:30 +0900
> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
> 
> I have a question about Stategy 7: Do I make one backup server script, and
> include ALL clients and ALL the sets? If one client requests an ASAP backup,
> will it back up all of them? And, to where? Or, do I make a 99-day server
> script for each client?
> 
> Also, right now, I'm using only backup scripts. I'm emailed a message each
> time a script is completed. However, when I have a backup server script
> enabled and running, I'm emailed only once, with the results of all the
> *regular* scripts. Why is that?
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Scott Ponzani
> _
> Communications Coordinator
> Christian Academy in Japan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
>> From: Matthew Tevenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:23:15 -0800
>> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
>> 
>> An easy way to do this is to create a new Backup Server script that has an
>> interval of 99 days between backups to the same backup set as your nightly
>> script. Make it active all day long. Your users can basically request a
>> backup whenever they want without a server-initiated backup to interrupt
>> them during the day (unless it's been 99 days since this script last backed
>> them up).
>> 
>> For more details on this, see p. 133 of both the Retrospect 4.2 and 5.0
>> User's Guides, under "Strategy 7‹On-Demand Backup Server."
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthew Tevenan
>> Technical Support Specialist
>> Dantz Development Corporation
>> 925.253.3050 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Client initiated backup

2000-03-11 Thread Scott Ponzani

Matthew,

Concerning the email notifications: BIG DUH to me! That's exactly what's
happening. Thanks for copying that portion of the user's guide here.

About the backup on-demand server script: That would mean all the on-demand
backups would go to the same set. That set could get HUGE. Any strategies
you can recommend?

Cordially,

  Scott Ponzani
  _
  Communications Coordinator
  Christian Academy in Japan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> From: Matthew Tevenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 22:58:16 -0800
> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
> 
> Scott,
> 
> Make one Backup Server script and include only the clients you wish to give
> the option of daytime backups.
> 
> Include only one backup set. Including more than one is possible, but will
> complicate things way too much.
> 
> Regarding your second issue, read the following, from the Retrospect User's
> Guide:
> 
> While Backup Server is running, the Retrospect Event Handler sends a summary
> e-mail every twelve hours. (If you prefer a different time interval, open
> the script and change the property kSendBackupServerReport value to the
> desired number of hours.) This summary e-mail contains the error and
> success messages for each volume in the Backup Server script. It also
> contains the error and success messages for regular scripts that run while
> Backup Server is running.
> 
> NOTE: When you stop Backup Server, the events which occurred after the last
> summary e-mail are not included in an e-mail.
> 
> Does this sound like what's happening in your situation?
> 
> Matthew Tevenan
> Technical Support Specialist
> Dantz Development Corporation
> 925.253.3050 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> From: Scott Ponzani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:27:30 +0900
>> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
>> 
>> I have a question about Stategy 7: Do I make one backup server script, and
>> include ALL clients and ALL the sets? If one client requests an ASAP backup,
>> will it back up all of them? And, to where? Or, do I make a 99-day server
>> script for each client?
>> 
>> Also, right now, I'm using only backup scripts. I'm emailed a message each
>> time a script is completed. However, when I have a backup server script
>> enabled and running, I'm emailed only once, with the results of all the
>> *regular* scripts. Why is that?
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> 
>> Scott Ponzani
>> _____
>> Communications Coordinator
>> Christian Academy in Japan
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Matthew Tevenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 14:23:15 -0800
>>> To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: Client initiated backup
>>> 
>>> An easy way to do this is to create a new Backup Server script that has an
>>> interval of 99 days between backups to the same backup set as your nightly
>>> script. Make it active all day long. Your users can basically request a
>>> backup whenever they want without a server-initiated backup to interrupt
>>> them during the day (unless it's been 99 days since this script last backed
>>> them up).
>>> 
>>> For more details on this, see p. 133 of both the Retrospect 4.2 and 5.0
>>> User's Guides, under "Strategy 7‹On-Demand Backup Server."
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthew Tevenan
>>> Technical Support Specialist
>>> Dantz Development Corporation
>>> 925.253.3050 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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