Re: arrgh 519 error

[Rhona Cash]

I also get the 519 error. I do agree that it is certain files that are
causing Retrospect to error out. I have gotten around this by subdivide
my script this let's my backup complete; however, when users connect to
the remote client server after the backups run the server crashes. I
must reboot the remote client server each morning but at least my backup

completes this way. I am still in the process of figure out exactly what

files are causing the problem. I have only eliminated folders at this
point I have a lot of data I backup so this is a very slow process. I
have ran Norton, TechTools and Disk Warrior but neither show any
problems. I think it's a Retrospect compatibility issue.

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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Lindsay Robertson]

We're running mostly MacOS 9.0.4
but also 9.0, 8.6 and 8.5 on a variety of machines.
I've verified the files with an old copy of Resedit but they checkout fine.

I think the problem began to occur when i started to upgrade clients 
to version 4.2
How can i downgrade the client? when i reinstalled the 4.1 client i 
got a piton protocol violation.

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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Lindsay Robertson]

Hi it turns out my 519 -Net retry error is actually caused by files 
on the client that cannot be backed up.
If i remove the file the backup continues till it finds another. Each 
mac on my net seems to have at least a couple of these problematic 
files...

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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Dean Brissinger]

Interestingly enough, I have many computers that back up fine 
when I use an Adaptec AHA-2906 (5MB/sec controller) SCSI controller 
in the server.  I upgraded the controller to a 2940UW (40MB/sec 
controller) and now I get -519 errors on 1/3 of both mac and PC 
clients.  I'm guessing that Retrospect is going too fast for the 
clients and thus resulting in -519's.  Has anyone else seen similar 
behavior?

I'm using an AIT-1 tape drive.  It doesn't matter which kind 
of tape drive I use.  I've also played with Exabyte Ellot 820's (high 
speed 8mm) and get the same result.


>Or a SCSI terminator or ID number:)
>
>Derek.
>
>>  >it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
>>>when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4
>>>no problemo
>>>its only when i backup to a tape backupset...
>>
>>Lindsay,
>>
>>Since you mentioned that the tape drive is new and that backing up to a
>>file on the G4 is working ok, I'm thinking that something is amiss in the
>>SCSI voodoo department. Just 'cuz it's new, doesn't mean it works. ;-\
>>Have you tried a new or different cable?  Hooking the tape drive up to a
>>different Mac? A different tape drive? Any and all of these things can
>>lead you to an answer: cable, tape drive, scsi card, logic board even.
>>
>>Just a thought,
>>
>>Pam
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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Derek Ellerton]

Or a SCSI terminator or ID number:)

Derek.

>  >it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
>>when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4
>>no problemo
>>its only when i backup to a tape backupset...
>
>Lindsay,
>
>Since you mentioned that the tape drive is new and that backing up to a
>file on the G4 is working ok, I'm thinking that something is amiss in the
>SCSI voodoo department. Just 'cuz it's new, doesn't mean it works. ;-\
>Have you tried a new or different cable?  Hooking the tape drive up to a
>different Mac? A different tape drive? Any and all of these things can
>lead you to an answer: cable, tape drive, scsi card, logic board even.
>
>Just a thought,
>
>Pam


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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Pam Lefkowitz]

>it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
>when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4 
>no problemo
>its only when i backup to a tape backupset...

Lindsay,

Since you mentioned that the tape drive is new and that backing up to a 
file on the G4 is working ok, I'm thinking that something is amiss in the 
SCSI voodoo department. Just 'cuz it's new, doesn't mean it works. ;-\ 
Have you tried a new or different cable?  Hooking the tape drive up to a 
different Mac? A different tape drive? Any and all of these things can 
lead you to an answer: cable, tape drive, scsi card, logic board even.

Just a thought,

Pam

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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Joy Richards]

At 05:00 PM 6/19/2000 +1200, you wrote:
 >Joy, thanx, but already got that, i've been right through it...
 >
 >it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
 >when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4
 >no problemo
 >its only when i backup to a tape backupset...

Did you go through all the possibilities in the tech note?  It's as 
thorough as it gets in a tech note and an excellent reference to test the 
519 error for causes.

The only thing I'd suggest you do at this point is to contact Tech Support, 
either via the web page or by phone.  (Try the web page first, since you're 
in New Zealand)...

Good luck,
Joy



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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Lindsay Robertson]

Joy, thanx, but already got that, i've been right through it...

it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4 
no problemo
its only when i backup to a tape backupset...




>
>  >what to do next???
>
>Next step:  Get the tech note from the web page.
>
>Seriously,
>Joy
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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Joy Richards]

At 11:53 PM 6/18/2000 -0500, you wrote:
 >
 >I am experiencing a similar problem.  Please specify which tech note on
 >what web page.  In fact, a URL would be helpful and appreciated

The main list of tech notes is at:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=technotes

You want #415 which covers error 519

Joy



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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Cal Smith]

I am experiencing a similar problem.  Please specify which tech note on
what web page.  In fact, a URL would be helpful and appreciated

Thanks.

Cal

Joy Richards wrote:

> At 03:14 PM 6/19/2000 +1200, you wrote:
>  >
>  >Hi can you please help, i'm bashing my head on a brick wall...
>  >
>
> <...>
>
>  >I've reinstalled the scsi drivers, reverted to the mac OS 9 base
>  >extension set, reinstalled Retrospect
>  >
>  >
>  >what to do next???
>
> Next step:  Get the tech note from the web page.
>
> Seriously,
> Joy



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Re: arrgh 519 error

[Joy Richards]

At 03:14 PM 6/19/2000 +1200, you wrote:
 >
 >Hi can you please help, i'm bashing my head on a brick wall...
 >

<...>

 >I've reinstalled the scsi drivers, reverted to the mac OS 9 base
 >extension set, reinstalled Retrospect
 >
 >
 >what to do next???

Next step:  Get the tech note from the web page.

Seriously,
Joy



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