Re: Riak VS Graph Databases

[Alex De la rosa]

Yeah, I know it might be hard to only use Riak, but I want to try see how
much I can do with only 1 system. If later I have to add more complexity to
the system, so be it :) but i will squeeze my brain as much as i can to
model the data in a way not much relationships may be required and probably
Riak might be enough... but we will see :)

Thanks!
Alex


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Guido Medina 
wrote:

>  In a dream world my friend, we have Riak, PostgreSQL and Solr and might
> have to include a sort of query-able Big Table implementation in the future
> like Cassandra (we will try to avoid this last thing until we can't)
>
> Your Graph DB will have trade off versus KV fetch in general, I don't
> think you have the tools you need in Riak to find the relationships per
> category nor the Riak advantages to do quick KV operations (data storage
> wise) nor cluster replication.
>
> It won't be that simple without many trade off to build an homogeneous
> system.
>
> Guido.
>
>
> On 29/08/14 16:06, Alex De la rosa wrote:
>
> Hi Guido,
>
>  This could be a solution; although I would try to do it in an
> homogeneous system where only one NoSQL DB would be around if possible :)
>
>  Thanks!
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Guido Medina 
> wrote:
>
>>  Maybe what you are looking for is a combination of both, say, your KV
>> data in Riak with a combination of background processes able to build the
>> necessary searching graphs in Neo4J, in such way your data is secure in a
>> Riak cluster and searchable on several Neo4J servers.
>>
>> That's just an idea which might be not do-able, hope it helps,
>>
>> Guido.
>>
>>
>> On 29/08/14 15:54, Alex De la rosa wrote:
>>
>>  Hi there,
>>
>>  For some time already I have in mind building a kind of social network
>> myself. Is pretty ambitious project although it doesn't have in mind to be
>> a new facebook; but still data will be quite big and complex.
>>
>>  I like Riak and I had been following since version 0.14, and new
>> additions in Riak 2.0 seem to help a lot in how to model the data; although
>> relationships will be unavoidable.
>>
>>  Some friends suggested me to use Graph Databases instead. How would
>> Riak compare to Graph Databases for this use case? Is it doable to create a
>> social network entirely from Riak? Or may not be recommended?
>>
>>  Thanks!
>> Alex
>>
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Re: Riak VS Graph Databases

[Guido Medina]

In a dream world my friend, we have Riak, PostgreSQL and Solr and might 
have to include a sort of query-able Big Table implementation in the 
future like Cassandra (we will try to avoid this last thing until we can't)


Your Graph DB will have trade off versus KV fetch in general, I don't 
think you have the tools you need in Riak to find the relationships per 
category nor the Riak advantages to do quick KV operations (data storage 
wise) nor cluster replication.


It won't be that simple without many trade off to build an homogeneous 
system.


Guido.

On 29/08/14 16:06, Alex De la rosa wrote:

Hi Guido,

This could be a solution; although I would try to do it in an 
homogeneous system where only one NoSQL DB would be around if possible :)


Thanks!
Alex


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Guido Medina 
mailto:guido.med...@temetra.com>> wrote:


Maybe what you are looking for is a combination of both, say, your
KV data in Riak with a combination of background processes able to
build the necessary searching graphs in Neo4J, in such way your
data is secure in a Riak cluster and searchable on several Neo4J
servers.

That's just an idea which might be not do-able, hope it helps,

Guido.


On 29/08/14 15:54, Alex De la rosa wrote:

Hi there,

For some time already I have in mind building a kind of social
network myself. Is pretty ambitious project although it doesn't
have in mind to be a new facebook; but still data will be quite
big and complex.

I like Riak and I had been following since version 0.14, and new
additions in Riak 2.0 seem to help a lot in how to model the
data; although relationships will be unavoidable.

Some friends suggested me to use Graph Databases instead. How
would Riak compare to Graph Databases for this use case? Is it
doable to create a social network entirely from Riak? Or may not
be recommended?

Thanks!
Alex


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Re: Riak VS Graph Databases

[Pedro Larroy]

Hi Alex

Did you have a look at orientdb, it might fit the need that you describe.

Pedro.
On Aug 29, 2014 5:07 PM, "Alex De la rosa"  wrote:

> Hi Guido,
>
> This could be a solution; although I would try to do it in an homogeneous
> system where only one NoSQL DB would be around if possible :)
>
> Thanks!
> Alex
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Guido Medina 
> wrote:
>
>>  Maybe what you are looking for is a combination of both, say, your KV
>> data in Riak with a combination of background processes able to build the
>> necessary searching graphs in Neo4J, in such way your data is secure in a
>> Riak cluster and searchable on several Neo4J servers.
>>
>> That's just an idea which might be not do-able, hope it helps,
>>
>> Guido.
>>
>>
>> On 29/08/14 15:54, Alex De la rosa wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>>  For some time already I have in mind building a kind of social network
>> myself. Is pretty ambitious project although it doesn't have in mind to be
>> a new facebook; but still data will be quite big and complex.
>>
>>  I like Riak and I had been following since version 0.14, and new
>> additions in Riak 2.0 seem to help a lot in how to model the data; although
>> relationships will be unavoidable.
>>
>>  Some friends suggested me to use Graph Databases instead. How would
>> Riak compare to Graph Databases for this use case? Is it doable to create a
>> social network entirely from Riak? Or may not be recommended?
>>
>>  Thanks!
>> Alex
>>
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Re: Riak VS Graph Databases

[Alex De la rosa]

Hi Guido,

This could be a solution; although I would try to do it in an homogeneous
system where only one NoSQL DB would be around if possible :)

Thanks!
Alex


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Guido Medina 
wrote:

>  Maybe what you are looking for is a combination of both, say, your KV
> data in Riak with a combination of background processes able to build the
> necessary searching graphs in Neo4J, in such way your data is secure in a
> Riak cluster and searchable on several Neo4J servers.
>
> That's just an idea which might be not do-able, hope it helps,
>
> Guido.
>
>
> On 29/08/14 15:54, Alex De la rosa wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
>  For some time already I have in mind building a kind of social network
> myself. Is pretty ambitious project although it doesn't have in mind to be
> a new facebook; but still data will be quite big and complex.
>
>  I like Riak and I had been following since version 0.14, and new
> additions in Riak 2.0 seem to help a lot in how to model the data; although
> relationships will be unavoidable.
>
>  Some friends suggested me to use Graph Databases instead. How would Riak
> compare to Graph Databases for this use case? Is it doable to create a
> social network entirely from Riak? Or may not be recommended?
>
>  Thanks!
> Alex
>
>
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Re: Riak VS Graph Databases

[Guido Medina]

Maybe what you are looking for is a combination of both, say, your KV 
data in Riak with a combination of background processes able to build 
the necessary searching graphs in Neo4J, in such way your data is secure 
in a Riak cluster and searchable on several Neo4J servers.


That's just an idea which might be not do-able, hope it helps,

Guido.

On 29/08/14 15:54, Alex De la rosa wrote:

Hi there,

For some time already I have in mind building a kind of social network 
myself. Is pretty ambitious project although it doesn't have in mind 
to be a new facebook; but still data will be quite big and complex.


I like Riak and I had been following since version 0.14, and new 
additions in Riak 2.0 seem to help a lot in how to model the data; 
although relationships will be unavoidable.


Some friends suggested me to use Graph Databases instead. How would 
Riak compare to Graph Databases for this use case? Is it doable to 
create a social network entirely from Riak? Or may not be recommended?


Thanks!
Alex


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