Internal standards

2008-04-02 Thread Chrysochoou, Maria
Does anyone have a suggestion for a vendor that has crystalline
corundum, zincite and/or rutile to use as internal standards except
NIST? The SRM standards are very expensive for very little quantity.

 

Thank you,

 

Maria Chrysochoou

Assistant Professor

Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering

University of Connecticut

Storrs CT 06269

 

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Re: Internal standards

2008-04-02 Thread Luis Gallego Martinez



 Dear Maria,

 We are developing standard materials for XRD and can help you. You
can write directly to my e-mail for details.

 Luis

 Quoting Chrysochoou, Maria [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Does anyone have a suggestion for a vendor that has crystalline
corundum, zincite and/or rutile to use as internal standards except
NIST? The SRM standards are very expensive for very little

quantity.




Thank you,



Maria Chrysochoou

Assistant Professor

Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering

University of Connecticut

Storrs CT 06269



E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tel.: (860) 486 3594

Fax: (860) 486 2298






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Question on Rietveld with x-ray

2008-04-02 Thread Jae-Ho Chung
Dear experts on Rietveld with x-ray,

 

When it comes to Rietveld, I have exclusively been working with neutrons.
Now I am just trying Rietveld with x-rays, and immediately came up with a
question. Since x-ray scatters from electrons, it seems to me that we always
have to use, for instance, O-2 instead of O, and so on, for ionic compounds.
But I have an impression that O is still used in many examples, including
certain example files given in GSAS, such as Y2O3.EXP. Why is it? 

 

As a naturally following question, since no material is perfectly ionic, the
oxidation numbers may become another refinable parameters. But I suppose
they are never refinable in GSAS or in FullProf. Therefore, I suppose the
fractional occupation may be compromised instead? Is this in any way
discussed among x-ray experts?

 

Thanks a million in advance.

Jae-Ho

 

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Re: Question on Rietveld with x-ray

2008-04-02 Thread Larry Finger

Jae-Ho Chung wrote:

Dear experts on Rietveld with x-ray,

 

When it comes to Rietveld, I have exclusively been working with 
neutrons. Now I am just trying Rietveld with x-rays, and immediately 
came up with a question. Since x-ray scatters from electrons, it seems 
to me that we always have to use, for instance, O-2 instead of O, and so 
on, for ionic compounds. But I have an impression that O is still used 
in many examples, including certain example files given in GSAS, such as 
Y2O3.EXP. Why is it?


I suggest that you plot the scattering curves for O and O-2, and then 
decide how much difference it makes. In addition, you should also 
postulate a theory concerning the differences. Hint: The electron 
cloud is not a point object.


As a naturally following question, since no material is perfectly ionic, 
the oxidation numbers may become another “refinable” parameters. But I 
suppose they are never refinable in GSAS or in FullProf. Therefore, I 
suppose the fractional occupation may be compromised instead? Is this in 
any way discussed among x-ray experts?


See above. What experiment would you propose to make the oxidation 
number be refinable?


Larry


RE: Question on Rietveld with x-ray

2008-04-02 Thread May, Frank
To all:
 
The mathematical description of crystals is valid for the bulk of the volume. 
 However, the description suffers from a physical termination of series 
effect at the surface of the crystal.  For very large crystals, the amount of 
surface is much greater relative to the total volume of the crystal.  However, 
when the crystalline material approaches what we now refer to as the nano 
state (perhaps less than 40 Angstroms - 8 to 10 unit cells), the amount of 
surface becomes significant.  The chemical composition - oxidation state of 
surface atoms - is intuitively different at the surface of a material than 
within the bulk.  How does one deal with that situation?  The effects are 
present in the powder pattern; how does one model them?
 
Frank May
Research Investigator
Department of Chemistry  Biochemistry
University of Missouri - St. Louis
One University Boulevard
St. Louis, Missouri  63121-4499
U.S.A
 
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314-623-4524 - cell



From: Larry Finger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 4/2/2008 9:47 AM
To: Jae-Ho Chung
Cc: Rietveld_L@ill.fr
Subject: Re: Question on Rietveld with x-ray



Jae-Ho Chung wrote:
 Dear experts on Rietveld with x-ray,

 

 When it comes to Rietveld, I have exclusively been working with
 neutrons. Now I am just trying Rietveld with x-rays, and immediately
 came up with a question. Since x-ray scatters from electrons, it seems
 to me that we always have to use, for instance, O-2 instead of O, and so
 on, for ionic compounds. But I have an impression that O is still used
 in many examples, including certain example files given in GSAS, such as
 Y2O3.EXP. Why is it?

I suggest that you plot the scattering curves for O and O-2, and then
decide how much difference it makes. In addition, you should also
postulate a theory concerning the differences. Hint: The electron
cloud is not a point object.

 As a naturally following question, since no material is perfectly ionic,
 the oxidation numbers may become another refinable parameters. But I
 suppose they are never refinable in GSAS or in FullProf. Therefore, I
 suppose the fractional occupation may be compromised instead? Is this in
 any way discussed among x-ray experts?

See above. What experiment would you propose to make the oxidation
number be refinable?

Larry