Re: [Rife-users] localized login template
Geert, this is imho the job of a specific LocaleProvider implementation. Your proposition could be a good fit for the DefaultLocaleProvider implementation. OK. Just to be sure, the only function of the interface would be: ListLocale getLocales() The element instance should be given to the ctor or the factory. What about no interface but an abstract class? (if you know of a better name, that would be cool) Not atm. Regards Pierre ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Excel spreadsheets as responses
We don't have this, but I plan on doing a lot more Spring integration after the next release. I suppose this is part of their AOP support. The closest that we currently have is something similar as Spring's transactional template methods: http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/ Chainable+transactions Whatever you do, please leave RIFE as a monolithic framework and do not start branching all over the place. RIFE has convinced me by its simplicity -- one JAR, one declaration in web.xml and that is it. Yes, these would be optional integrations for people that do already use Spring and would like to use RIFE alongside their current codebase. RIFE will always be one jar. Actually I was less talking about the syntax, but more about a centralized point of declaration. If your entire data and logic flow is specified in a site-structure, you almost instantly have an overview of how your application behaves and which components are accessible. Without this centralized declaration you have to search through your entire code code-base to find where your area of interest is located. Geert, I am not trying to be negative, but when I first looked at RIFE, it reminded me of FuseActions (ColdFusion anyone?). Except that FuseActions was a pattern more than anything else. Still it has worked for ages and still works. I consider that a good thing :-) Any familiarity makes it easier for people to adopt RIFE. Coool! I'm actively looking into making X-develop more intelligent for RIFE and provide code hyper-linking in between files. I just spent 2 weeks with Eclipse exclusively to try it out thoroughly and I switched back to X-develop today. I tried X-Develop, but did not like it. But then, I don't like Eclipse or IDEA either. I think the choice of IDE is very personal and there is no real good/bad. +1 -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba Use what you need Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Excel spreadsheets as responses
i am almost using rife almost on a daily basis now, so I also started looking at adding support for it in eclipse (which is my primary ide). i dabbled in an eclipse plugin in the past, but i have to relearn most parts of the platform to do anything signifact; what i've been doing is looking at the code for the ant plugin, to give me some direction. Raoul, Geert, if you guys are serious about this one, i'll be willing to put sometime in; developing an eclipse plugin for rife sure sounds like a lot of fun. -- eokyere On 12/2/05, Geert Bevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't have this, but I plan on doing a lot more Spring integration after the next release. I suppose this is part of their AOP support. The closest that we currently have is something similar as Spring's transactional template methods: http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/ Chainable+transactions Whatever you do, please leave RIFE as a monolithic framework and do not start branching all over the place. RIFE has convinced me by its simplicity -- one JAR, one declaration in web.xml and that is it. Yes, these would be optional integrations for people that do already use Spring and would like to use RIFE alongside their current codebase. RIFE will always be one jar. Actually I was less talking about the syntax, but more about a centralized point of declaration. If your entire data and logic flow is specified in a site-structure, you almost instantly have an overview of how your application behaves and which components are accessible. Without this centralized declaration you have to search through your entire code code-base to find where your area of interest is located. Geert, I am not trying to be negative, but when I first looked at RIFE, it reminded me of FuseActions (ColdFusion anyone?). Except that FuseActions was a pattern more than anything else. Still it has worked for ages and still works. I consider that a good thing :-) Any familiarity makes it easier for people to adopt RIFE. Coool! I'm actively looking into making X-develop more intelligent for RIFE and provide code hyper-linking in between files. I just spent 2 weeks with Eclipse exclusively to try it out thoroughly and I switched back to X-develop today. I tried X-Develop, but did not like it. But then, I don't like Eclipse or IDEA either. I think the choice of IDE is very personal and there is no real good/bad. +1 -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba Use what you need Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Re: Excel spreadsheets as responses
Geert Bevin wrote: Anyway, I like NetBeans but it misses a couple of very important things for me: * fully customizable code formatting Jalopy :-) Yes, there is. But I've never used it personally. I'm happy with the code formatting features of NetBeans -- I tend to follow Sun's conventions. I don't want to learn how to write your own refactoring engine just to say that all my member variables are prefixed with the 'm' character. Doesn't sound easy to me ;-) True. The most important parts for me are: * highlighting of the template tags * code hyper-linking in between different file type - click on a template name in the element - go to the template - click on includes in a template - go to the included template - click on the element declaration in the site structure - click on subsites - click on element implementations * intelligent structure views - view all element declarations that use a particular implementation - template inclusion inheritance * a bunch of very easy to use live templates What do you think? Sound valid to me, but then I'm so used to my IDE that I can do these tasks very quickly. Eddy ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Excel spreadsheets as responses
Hi Geert, I actually have that pdf (can't remember how i got it though) together with 4 books from the eclipse series; and that includes the faq and building commercial-quality plugins... and a couple others on SWT... i just have to re-read relevant parts... plus get into the code as the platform is a moving target :) and the books were mostly written to the 3.0 API. it would be good to get together with all those interested on the #rife chan and get something started -- eokyere On 12/2/05, Geert Bevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Emmanuel, i am almost using rife almost on a daily basis now, so I also started looking at adding support for it in eclipse (which is my primary ide). i dabbled in an eclipse plugin in the past, but i have to relearn most parts of the platform to do anything signifact; what i've been doing is looking at the code for the ant plugin, to give me some direction. I received these from someone too as a documentation resource: http://safariexamples.informit.com/0321268385/index.html If you're interested I can also send you a PDF of a free early version of the Contributing To Eclipse book. This is not an illegal copy of the book, but a version from before it was published. Raoul, Geert, if you guys are serious about this one, i'll be willing to put sometime in; developing an eclipse plugin for rife sure sounds like a lot of fun. I sure want to help out! Though my main focus is to create an X- develop plugin, creating one for Eclipse is very important and I will give a hand to do so whenever I can. There is a student on our IRC channel that is planning on creating a visual Eclipse plugin using GEF to graphically edit your site-structure. It would be a good idea to get him on the mailing list. Best regards, Geert -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba Use what you need Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
