Re: [Rife-users] RIFE podcast
On 12/3/05, Keith Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll write since no one has responded. I don't listen to any podcastsso I don't think I'll listen to a rife podcast.Not listening to a podcast puts you in the minority I think. :) On Dec 3, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Geert Bevin wrote:> Hi everyone,>> since I like working with audio, I'd like to try to create a RIFE> podcast with regular content.>> Any ideas for this? A RIFE-flavored podcast might be a little narrow in the scope of content. What I mean is, I think you might have trouble coming up with things to write about. Unless you start trashing RoR and other webapp frameworks and then interview their creators in a "Hardball" / pundit show style. That would actually be really really cool. Listen to two people argue about why one web framework is better than another... Hmmm > Do you think it's a good idea?Sure. Can't hurt, might help. Could be interesting. > Which topics would you like me to talk about?Talking in a podcast is even harder than talking in front of people in a presentation, so the topics will probably have to be shallow. You're not going to be trying to explain all of RIFE in a podcast. I know that there are terms and concepts that are hard to vocalize. > Any suggestions for regular themes or subjects?As I said above the "argue with the developers" format would be an excellent thing. Maybe a morning coffee notes style / here's what's going on type of thing could be interesting as well. I guess for me the blocker is the fact that you're going to have a bit of a time with just RIFE because of two things: A) low established userbase and B) complexity of the topicI don't listen to talk radio in my car to hear about the detailed inner workings of an engine complete with jargon and established industry terms. Cheers,-- JR Boyens[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] RIFE podcast
I'll write since no one has responded. I don't listen to any podcasts so I don't think I'll listen to a rife podcast. On Dec 3, 2005, at 3:39 PM, Geert Bevin wrote: Hi everyone, since I like working with audio, I'd like to try to create a RIFE podcast with regular content. Any ideas for this? Do you think it's a good idea? Which topics would you like me to talk about? Any suggestions for regular themes or subjects? Geert -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] localized login template
No, it will be a property, you can set properties inside the tag that will be used throughout the system. You can override them in the site structure or for individual elements. On 3-dec-05, at 21:48, Raoul Pierre wrote: Geert, I think this method is better: public List getLocales(ElementSupport element) Since it should not store the element instance in the LocaleProvider instance. The instance will be constructor through IoC Do you mean that the instance of LocalProvider should be declared by a participant? Something like: param="NotTheDefaultLocalProviderClassName">ParticipantLocaleProvider< /participant> Pierre ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] localized login template
Geert, I think this method is better: public List getLocales(ElementSupport element) Since it should not store the element instance in the LocaleProvider instance. The instance will be constructor through IoC Do you mean that the instance of LocalProvider should be declared by a participant? Something like: param="NotTheDefaultLocalProviderClassName">ParticipantLocaleProvider Pierre ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
[Rife-users] RIFE podcast
Hi everyone, since I like working with audio, I'd like to try to create a RIFE podcast with regular content. Any ideas for this? Do you think it's a good idea? Which topics would you like me to talk about? Any suggestions for regular themes or subjects? Geert -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Re: Excel spreadsheets as responses
Hi Keith, sounds great! Can you update the wiki page with the ideas you wrote in this mail. Can be interesting for the plugins for other IDEs too. On 3-dec-05, at 18:56, Keith Lea wrote: On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Pazu wrote: Coool! I'm actively looking into making X-develop more intelligent for RIFE and provide code hyper-linking in between files. I just spent 2 weeks with Eclipse exclusively to try it out thoroughly and I switched back to X-develop today. Compared to Eclipse, X-Develop is cool indeed. A lot more has to happen to make me switch from IDEA, thou... Speaking about IDEA and RIFE, I remember Keith Lea planning to write some sort of plugin to ease the development of RIFE applications with IDEA. Things like navigation from element declarations to implementations and vice-versa would really make development a lot more fun than it currently is. If we (RIFE users) could develop plugins for IDEA, X-Develop, and god forgive me, Eclipse with the same set of functionality, that would be *really* something. Keith, are you there? Do your plans still stand up? I've actually started writing a plugin for IDEA. The first order of business is plugging RIFE site structure into the Ctrl+N "go to class" popup (see http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/ navigation.html), so I can type ctrl+n and then a URL of my site (like /account/edit-links), to jump to that element declaration. Future plans include - completion, ctrl+click navigation, and error-highlighting of values and blocks in things like Template.setValue calls. - actions like "go to template" and "go to element declaration" and "go to element implementation" and "go to site", which will allow quick navigation from, for example, an Element class, to the template(s) it uses ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Native support for things like if-modified-since and last-modified?
Hi Keith,
I don't really see the need to add specific support for this in the
site structure. You can easily handle this with behavioral
inheritance ("inherits" attribute).
Best regards,
Geert
On 3-dec-05, at 19:25, Keith Lea wrote:
I wonder if there's anything built into rife to allow the browser
to better cache some data, and support for if-modified-since. if
there's nothing special for it, I imagine there could be a new item
on like:
check="x.y.MyElementChecker"> and MyElementChecker implements some
interface:
interface Checker {
long getLastUpdated(ElementContext ctx);
}
There would be performance problems because most checkers would
probably fetch the same data from the DB that the element itself
would. I wonder if anyone else has ideas for this.
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[Rife-users] Native support for things like if-modified-since and last-modified?
I wonder if there's anything built into rife to allow the browser to
better cache some data, and support for if-modified-since. if there's
nothing special for it, I imagine there could be a new item on
like:
check="x.y.MyElementChecker"> and MyElementChecker implements some
interface:
interface Checker {
long getLastUpdated(ElementContext ctx);
}
There would be performance problems because most checkers would
probably fetch the same data from the DB that the element itself
would. I wonder if anyone else has ideas for this.
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Re: [Rife-users] Re: Excel spreadsheets as responses
Hey Keith, I don't know if you've seen this: http://www.uwyn.com/pipermail/rife-users/2005-December/018999.html Geert created a page for rife IDE support on the wiki, so maybe you can add your info there. cheers, Emmanuel On 12/3/05, Keith Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Pazu wrote: > > >> Coool! I'm actively looking into making X-develop more intelligent > >> for RIFE and provide code hyper-linking in between files. I just > >> spent 2 weeks with Eclipse exclusively to try it out thoroughly and I > >> switched back to X-develop today. > > > > Compared to Eclipse, X-Develop is cool indeed. A lot more has to > > happen to make > > me switch from IDEA, thou... Speaking about IDEA and RIFE, I > > remember Keith Lea > > planning to write some sort of plugin to ease the development of RIFE > > applications with IDEA. > > > > Things like navigation from element declarations to implementations > > and > > vice-versa would really make development a lot more fun than it > > currently is. If > > we (RIFE users) could develop plugins for IDEA, X-Develop, and god > > forgive me, > > Eclipse with the same set of functionality, that would be *really* > > something. > > Keith, are you there? Do your plans still stand up? > > I've actually started writing a plugin for IDEA. The first order of > business is plugging RIFE site structure into the Ctrl+N "go to > class" popup (see http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/ > navigation.html), so I can type ctrl+n and then a URL of my site > (like /account/edit-links), to jump to that element declaration. > > Future plans include > - completion, ctrl+click navigation, and error-highlighting of values > and blocks in things like Template.setValue calls. > - actions like "go to template" and "go to element declaration" and > "go to element implementation" and "go to site", which will allow > quick navigation from, for example, an Element class, to the template > (s) it uses > ___ > Rife-users mailing list > Rife-users@uwyn.com > http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users > ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Re: Excel spreadsheets as responses
On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Pazu wrote: Coool! I'm actively looking into making X-develop more intelligent for RIFE and provide code hyper-linking in between files. I just spent 2 weeks with Eclipse exclusively to try it out thoroughly and I switched back to X-develop today. Compared to Eclipse, X-Develop is cool indeed. A lot more has to happen to make me switch from IDEA, thou... Speaking about IDEA and RIFE, I remember Keith Lea planning to write some sort of plugin to ease the development of RIFE applications with IDEA. Things like navigation from element declarations to implementations and vice-versa would really make development a lot more fun than it currently is. If we (RIFE users) could develop plugins for IDEA, X-Develop, and god forgive me, Eclipse with the same set of functionality, that would be *really* something. Keith, are you there? Do your plans still stand up? I've actually started writing a plugin for IDEA. The first order of business is plugging RIFE site structure into the Ctrl+N "go to class" popup (see http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/ navigation.html), so I can type ctrl+n and then a URL of my site (like /account/edit-links), to jump to that element declaration. Future plans include - completion, ctrl+click navigation, and error-highlighting of values and blocks in things like Template.setValue calls. - actions like "go to template" and "go to element declaration" and "go to element implementation" and "go to site", which will allow quick navigation from, for example, an Element class, to the template (s) it uses ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] IDE support
Geert, Looks good; everyone chime in and let's get this rolling -- eokyere On 12/3/05, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Emmanuel, > > I created a quick wiki page to start things off here: > http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/IdePlugins > > Everyone, feel free to improve it or add yourself to the list of IDE > plugin developers. > > Let's get this started! :-) > > Geert > > On 2-dec-05, at 23:22, Emmanuel Okyere wrote: > > > Hi Geert, > > > > I actually have that pdf (can't remember how i got it though) together > > with 4 books from the eclipse series; and that includes the faq and > > building commercial-quality plugins... and a couple others on SWT... > > i just have to re-read relevant parts... plus get into the code as > > the platform is a moving target :) and the books were mostly written > > to the 3.0 API. > > > > it would be good to get together with all those interested on the > > #rife chan and get something started > > > > -- eokyere > > > > On 12/2/05, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Emmanuel, > >> > >>> i am almost using rife almost on a daily basis now, so I also > >>> started > >>> looking at adding support for it in eclipse (which is my primary > >>> ide). > >>> i dabbled in an eclipse plugin in the past, but i have to relearn > >>> most > >>> parts of the platform to do anything signifact; what i've been doing > >>> is looking at the code for the ant plugin, to give me some > >>> direction. > >> > >> I received these from someone too as a documentation resource: > >> http://safariexamples.informit.com/0321268385/index.html > >> > >> If you're interested I can also send you a PDF of a free early > >> version of the Contributing To Eclipse book. This is not an illegal > >> copy of the book, but a version from before it was published. > >> > >>> Raoul, Geert, if you guys are serious about this one, i'll be > >>> willing > >>> to put sometime in; developing an eclipse plugin for rife sure > >>> sounds > >>> like a lot of fun. > >> > >> I sure want to help out! Though my main focus is to create an X- > >> develop plugin, creating one for Eclipse is very important and I will > >> give a hand to do so whenever I can. There is a student on our IRC > >> channel that is planning on creating a visual Eclipse plugin using > >> GEF to graphically edit your site-structure. It would be a good idea > >> to get him on the mailing list. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Geert > > -- > Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba > "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 34 > http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium > gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 > > PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 > Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net > > > ___ > Rife-users mailing list > Rife-users@uwyn.com > http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users > ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
Re: [Rife-users] Minor JumpStart problem
Hmm I suspect that it's rather that the logs directory isn't created. Maybe unzip doesn't create empty dirs? On 3-dec-05, at 13:36, John Moore wrote: Just downloaded JumpStart, to play around with on Windows XP. I get an error soon after starting: org.mortbay.util.MultiException[java.io.IOException: Cannot write log directory F:\rife\rife-jumpstart-1.2\jetty-5.1.4\logs] It transpires that this is because the jetty5.1.4 directory is read- only. You may want to correct this. John -- == John Moore - Norwich, UK - [EMAIL PROTECTED] == ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
[Rife-users] Minor JumpStart problem
Just downloaded JumpStart, to play around with on Windows XP. I get an error soon after starting: org.mortbay.util.MultiException[java.io.IOException: Cannot write log directory F:\rife\rife-jumpstart-1.2\jetty-5.1.4\logs] It transpires that this is because the jetty5.1.4 directory is read-only. You may want to correct this. John -- == John Moore - Norwich, UK - [EMAIL PROTECTED] == ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
[Rife-users] IDE support
Hi Emmanuel, I created a quick wiki page to start things off here: http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/IdePlugins Everyone, feel free to improve it or add yourself to the list of IDE plugin developers. Let's get this started! :-) Geert On 2-dec-05, at 23:22, Emmanuel Okyere wrote: Hi Geert, I actually have that pdf (can't remember how i got it though) together with 4 books from the eclipse series; and that includes the faq and building commercial-quality plugins... and a couple others on SWT... i just have to re-read relevant parts... plus get into the code as the platform is a moving target :) and the books were mostly written to the 3.0 API. it would be good to get together with all those interested on the #rife chan and get something started -- eokyere On 12/2/05, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Emmanuel, i am almost using rife almost on a daily basis now, so I also started looking at adding support for it in eclipse (which is my primary ide). i dabbled in an eclipse plugin in the past, but i have to relearn most parts of the platform to do anything signifact; what i've been doing is looking at the code for the ant plugin, to give me some direction. I received these from someone too as a documentation resource: http://safariexamples.informit.com/0321268385/index.html If you're interested I can also send you a PDF of a free early version of the Contributing To Eclipse book. This is not an illegal copy of the book, but a version from before it was published. Raoul, Geert, if you guys are serious about this one, i'll be willing to put sometime in; developing an eclipse plugin for rife sure sounds like a lot of fun. I sure want to help out! Though my main focus is to create an X- develop plugin, creating one for Eclipse is very important and I will give a hand to do so whenever I can. There is a student on our IRC channel that is planning on creating a visual Eclipse plugin using GEF to graphically edit your site-structure. It would be a good idea to get him on the mailing list. Best regards, Geert -- Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba "Use what you need" Avenue de Scailmont 34 http://www.uwyn.com 7170 Manage, Belgium gbevin[remove] at uwyn dot comTel +32 64 84 80 03 PGP Fingerprint : 4E21 6399 CD9E A384 6619 719A C8F4 D40D 309F D6A9 Public PGP key : available at servers pgp.mit.edu, wwwkeys.pgp.net ___ Rife-users mailing list Rife-users@uwyn.com http://www.uwyn.com/mailman/listinfo/rife-users
