Re: [atlas] [mat-wg] RIPE Atlas Software Probes

2020-02-14 Thread Randy Bush
> To be fair the v1 and v2 (ID<=5000) are 9+ years old tiny embedded
> devices

ageist!!!



Re: [atlas] RIPE Atlas Software Probes

2020-02-14 Thread Philip Homburg
On 2020/02/14 10:50 , Jaap Akkerhuis wrote:
> When the software probe projects started I offered to make a FreeBSD
> port version. The developers said that that was a good idea and
> they would come back to me.

A FreeBSD port would be nice, but may be a significant amount of work.

Philip



Re: [atlas] [mat-wg] RIPE Atlas Software Probes

2020-02-14 Thread Paul Eagles
If it's interesting to the community I could fire up a software probe at my 
house where I've also got a v4 probe.  That way it would be a fairly direct 
comparison, even down to the hardware & software probe being in the same switch.

~P.

-Original Message-
From: ripe-atlas  On Behalf Of Robert Kisteleki
Sent: 14 February 2020 09:38
To: Romain Fontugne 
Cc: ripe-atlas@ripe.net
Subject: Re: [atlas] [mat-wg] RIPE Atlas Software Probes


To be fair the v1 and v2 (ID<=5000) are 9+ years old tiny embedded devices, 
their capabilities are nowhere close to anything else one runs Linux on 
nowadays.

Note that our team is also analysing the similarities/differences, but if 
someone else also wants to look, these are good candidates (same AS, same 
prefix, approximately same location):

https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/130/ (sw) 
https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/28270/  (v3)

or:

https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/141/ (sw) 
https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/54558/ (v4)

Cheers,
Robert


On 2020-02-14 02:42, Romain Fontugne wrote:
> my non-scientific comparison: looking at RTTs in traceroutes the old 
> v1 seems a msec slower. All are very stable
> 
> Romain
> 
> 
> On 2/14/20 4:12 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> if someone wants to compare, 4981 (a lovable old v1), 104, and
>> 106 are on the same lan segment in the same pop with the same 
>> vrrp exit etc.
>>
>> randy
>>
> 



[atlas] Some Software Probes do not send any results

2020-02-14 Thread ripe
Hi Robert,
weirdly, some of the SW probes are showing as "online" but do not provide any 
measurements results [event the Built-in ones], such as your mentioned 130 
[Latest data point shown is from 2019-12-17 11:57 UTC]
Also for example measurement https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/23955368/ 
shows 18 out of 71 SW probes were online [at the moment when I created the 
measurement] but never provided any results.
In https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/23962519/ I requested all probes with 
tag system-software, you can see how many probes are Online while not providing 
any results.

What I wanted to point out - I run SW probe 169 in Turris Omnia router and 
I noticed the same behavior - after router restart the SW probe goes online and 
looks fine, but does not send any results, until I restart the ATLAS process 
manually, then it runs fine until next router's reboot / power cycle.

Cheers
Jiri



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> Od: "Robert Kisteleki" 
> Komu: "Romain Fontugne" 
> Datum: 14.02.2020 10:38
> Předmět: Re: [atlas] [mat-wg] RIPE Atlas Software Probes
>
> CC: 
>
>To be fair the v1 and v2 (ID<=5000) are 9+ years old tiny embedded
>devices, their capabilities are nowhere close to anything else one runs
>Linux on nowadays.
>
>Note that our team is also analysing the similarities/differences, but
>if someone else also wants to look, these are good candidates (same AS,
>same prefix, approximately same location):
>
>https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/130/ (sw)
>https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/28270/  (v3)
>
>or:
>
>https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/141/ (sw)
>https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/54558/ (v4)
>
>Cheers,
>Robert
>
>
>On 2020-02-14 02:42, Romain Fontugne wrote:
>> my non-scientific comparison: looking at RTTs in traceroutes the old v1
>> seems a msec slower. All are very stable
>> 
>> Romain
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/14/20 4:12 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> if someone wants to compare, 4981 (a lovable old v1), 104, and
>>> 106 are on the same lan segment in the same pop with the same vrrp
>>> exit etc.
>>>
>>> randy
>>>
>> 
>
>
>



Re: [atlas] RIPE Atlas Software Probes

2020-02-14 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
 "Philip Paeps" writes:

 > It should be fairly straightforward to run the software probe on FreeBSD 
 > under the Linux binary compatibility layer ("Linux personality 
 > disorder").  I've been meaning to poke at this but so many projects ... 
 > so little time.

When the software probe projects started I offered to make a FreeBSD
port version. The developers said that that was a good idea and
they would come back to me.

jaap



Re: [atlas] [mat-wg] RIPE Atlas Software Probes

2020-02-14 Thread Robert Kisteleki


To be fair the v1 and v2 (ID<=5000) are 9+ years old tiny embedded
devices, their capabilities are nowhere close to anything else one runs
Linux on nowadays.

Note that our team is also analysing the similarities/differences, but
if someone else also wants to look, these are good candidates (same AS,
same prefix, approximately same location):

https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/130/ (sw)
https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/28270/  (v3)

or:

https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/141/ (sw)
https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/54558/ (v4)

Cheers,
Robert


On 2020-02-14 02:42, Romain Fontugne wrote:
> my non-scientific comparison: looking at RTTs in traceroutes the old v1
> seems a msec slower. All are very stable
> 
> Romain
> 
> 
> On 2/14/20 4:12 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> if someone wants to compare, 4981 (a lovable old v1), 104, and
>> 106 are on the same lan segment in the same pop with the same vrrp
>> exit etc.
>>
>> randy
>>
>