Re: [ripe-list] New Draft Document: RIPE NCC Staff Participation in the RIPE Community (Please review)
Denis, Melchior, colleagues, On 12 May 2023, at 19:03, denis walker wrote: > So if we want staff to have this level of involvement with the > community then we MUST have a clear buy-in from the senior management > team at the RIPE NCC and from the OR (staff workers association). You're quite right that, without the buy-in you suggest, documenting "how RIPE NCC staff can participate in RIPE" could turn out to be no more than "interesting theoretical discussion." To make progress, we need a first step, and then (as the saying goes), "the other foot has to fall." We still need that first step, which what is attempted in this document. On 15 May 2023, at 21:51, Melchior Aelmans wrote (in reply to Denis): > I would love to see NCC staff and > (senior) management respond to this discussion as well as indeed we are > discussing "how staff members 'can and should' be able to get heavily > involved". I think, if I were in their position, I should prefer to respond only after a clear set of "community principles" had emerged. This document is a proposal for such a set of principles. If some essential principle is missing, or if there is an error in any of the principles proposed, now would be a good moment to point that out. Best regards, Niall -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list
[ripe-list] BoF on Tuesday Evening: The Impact of the Latest Developments in Artificial Intelligence on the RIPE Community
Dear colleagues, There will be a BoF on Tuesday evening at RIPE86. I proposed it to the PC like this: "We suspect that many RIPE participants are paying attention to the increased discussions about AI within society as-a-whole. Therefore we propose to reserve a space in the meeting agenda for participants to share their opinions about this and hear the views of their peers. We suggest to consider the impact on the RIPE community as a way to frame the discussion. We do not propose new formal work by the community at this point in time." The goal is an exchange of opinions and ideas as a way for everyone to learn and enhance their own views on the subject. We do not want long monologues and the optimal outcome is a lively and entertaining discussion. Therefore the format will be that of a 'speed discussion'. If at all possible we want to avoid sitting facing the stage but rather in something resembling a circle as far as the layout of the room permits. In order to avoid microphone queues there will be two tokens in the room passed from one speaker to the next. We will not use microphones unless the group is too big. People will get to speak for no more than two minutes each followed by a two minute question and discussion period. If the discussion is fruitful the chair may extend it for another two minutes. Then the next person will get to speak for two minutes, ... . We will have a traffic light clock to keep the time and everyone will strictly respect the timing. We aim for an open and respectful discussion among peers. After the discussion we ask everyone not to reveal who said what to people who have not been present. It is OK to report *what* was said but not *who* said it. If the discussion is as good as we hope, we may publish a short report to the community. I am looking for two or three people to commit to speaking first to get things going. Please contact me off list. Also, if you have suggestions for reading material about the subject, please share them in this thread. I am very much looking forward to see you in the BoF. Daniel RIPE co-founder, first and current employee of the RIPE NCC, speaking only for himself. -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list
