Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Vorbis question, Description vs Comment ?

2012-06-11 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi,

In article jjzolx.5dz...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com,
   JJZolxjjzolx.5dz...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote:
 Just use COMMENT. Yes, if you use programs that map names, you'll have
 to be careful. Use a 'hex editor'
 (http://www.searchandreplace.com/fshexedit.htm) to actually look at the
 field names being written to the file. Luckily, the vorbis comments are
 written very near the beginning of FLAC files, so are easy to find.

Chances are, you'll have 'metaflac' installed on your system somewhere:

metaflac --list --block-type=VORBIS_COMMENT filename.flac

Andy

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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] FLAC vs. Apple Lossles Audio Quality through Squeeze Box

2012-06-11 Thread mobileadam

This is interesting. I'm upgrading my home server and was planning to
re-rip everything into Apple Lossless as iTunes is bearable for me.
However I stream to multiple players (boom, SBR, Radio) and at least two
are synced at any one time. Without knowing anything about native
formats etc would FLAC files on the server be a better solution? I need
to try and find out what the players can handle I guess 'natively'??? I
hate it when the music stops because the server / network is choking. 

Thanks

Adam



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] FLAC vs. Apple Lossles Audio Quality through Squeeze Box

2012-06-11 Thread aubuti

The sound quality of Apple Lossless and FLAC will be the same, so the
choice depends a lot on which ecosystem is more important for your
purposes. If you are heavily invested in SBs, then FLAC is the way to go
because Squeezeboxes play FLAC natively. If support for Apple products
is important to you (AirPlay, iPods, etc) then you're better off with
Apple Lossless. Personally, my library is mostly FLAC, but I keep a
parallel lossy copy in MP3 format for use on iPod, laptop, and other
mobile devices because on those I can easily live with the lower
fidelity of MP3. 

If you have several SBs and your comment on iTunes is that it is
bearable, then my reaction is why bother with Apple Lossless at all?
There are ripping and management tools that support FLAC that you are
likely to find much better than bearable (eg, dBpoweramp, Winamp,
foobar2000, Media Monkey, and many others). So why go with Apple
Lossless.

If your server is capable, there is nothing wrong with transcoding to
Apple Lossless and sending to multiple players. But if the server
doesn't have enough processing power then you can run into problems with
dropouts as the server cannot transcode fast enough to send a steady
stream. 

As for what SBs play natively, this chart from the wiki has a good
listing: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_comparison  It
may not answer all your questions, but it's a good start.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] Queen Band/Solo Members Tagging Issue?

2012-06-11 Thread elstensoftware

After you edited the tags did you do a full clear and rescan? It can be
needed where artist 'structure' is changed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] FLAC vs. Apple Lossles Audio Quality through Squeeze Box

2012-06-11 Thread Mnyb

If they are synced it is only one transcoding process as the server
sends the same stream to both players



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] FLAC vs. Apple Lossles Audio Quality through Squeeze Box

2012-06-11 Thread aubuti

Mnyb wrote: 
 If they are synced it is only one transcoding process as the server
 sends the same stream to both players
Correct, yet still some low-end server hardware is not up to performing
that task reliably.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] FLAC vs. Apple Lossles Audio Quality through Squeeze Box

2012-06-11 Thread Mnyb

aubuti wrote: 
 Correct, yet still some low-end server hardware is not up to performing
 that task reliably.

yep I would consider 1core x86 some thing 1,2 gHz rock bottom .

But the most demanding transcoders in my experience is the ones for
lossy formats like lame ? so a good server is also of interest if you
want some of the more obscure web radio channels  on old players



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] FLAC vs. Apple Lossles Audio Quality through Squeeze Box

2012-06-11 Thread Fozzy

Mnyb wrote: 
 yep I would consider 1core x86 some thing 1,2 gHz rock bottom .
 
 But the most demanding transcoders in my experience is the ones for
 lossy formats like lame ? so a good server is also of interest if you
 want some of the more obscure web radio channels  on old players

Am I right in thinking MP3 is one of those formats that requires
significantly more CPU power to encode than to decode?  If so you could
always avoid transcoding into it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Ripping] FLAC vs. Apple Lossles Audio Quality through Squeeze Box

2012-06-11 Thread Mnyb

Fozzy wrote: 
 Am I right in thinking MP3 is one of those formats that requires
 significantly more CPU power to encode than to decode?  If so you could
 always avoid transcoding into it.

Yes that what i do :)

but LMS has a bitrate limiter that uses LAME mp3 , it uses more cpu than
SoX utility to transcode flac wav and hirez .

And it has quality settings , if you use a high quality setting for lame
and bitrate limiting you will see a lot of cpu usage and the cpu must
have fpu for it to work .

Some older x86 cpus has not so great fpu implementations and this shows
in such case ARM just can't use LAME .

I noticed this in the pre spotify age when I used bitrate limiting to
stream music to softsqueeze when staying at hotels or similar locations
away from home with limited bandwith

There is an alternative shine encoder described in the wiki .

There are other use for the bitrate limiter it is actually very usefull
if a wifi player has not so great reception or if you use in the garden
far away from the AP etc.



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