Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
I am experimenting with this for v3.x right now. One item that is already on the roadmap is a voicetracker for the right-hand side, since we now have the required real estate. That sounds really nice :-) What are some other useful things we could do with that extra real estate? One thing could be graphics showing the waveform for the current playing song with small indications of segue, talk-time and so on. This way, the host quickly gets an idea of how the track ends. Kind regards, Morten ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 to the segue idea. Being able to put scripts into Rivendell that can be displayed in that area would also be great - not all stations do voicetracking so this would perhaps be useful to them. Detailed current item info might also be useful (notes etc). http://www.psquared.net/umbraco/ImageGen.ashx?image=/media/15585/log-active.png - - this is how Myriad's log screen looks (the new one, V4, at least) - the segue editor there lets you drag the waveforms about to change links, just for some reflection on what that product does. Also - with 16x9 monitors we'd have more space both in rdairplay -and- rdpanel; what could go in the side of rdpanel other than more buttons? Cheers, James Harrison On 10 May 2012 07:10:09, Morten Krarup Nielsen wrote: I am experimenting with this for v3.x right now. One item that is already on the roadmap is a voicetracker for the right-hand side, since we now have the required real estate. That sounds really nice :-) What are some other useful things we could do with that extra real estate? One thing could be graphics showing the waveform for the current playing song with small indications of segue, talk-time and so on. This way, the host quickly gets an idea of how the track ends. Kind regards, Morten ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+rZ4gACgkQ22kkGnnJQAy/RgCgjxkuLVYrQQxX6rGX7THs21l8 sXcAoKELbrGq2vqrSouE4ttF1ysGga2m =h7bm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server
I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki. http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72 But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast server. I've modified as per the instructions... NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of this version, you'll have to change the options passed to nc in the song.sh file. Change netcat -l -u -p $port $songdat to netcat -k -u -l $port $songdat Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it? Many thanks Geoff ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server
Not really a solution, but it has been working for us for nearly 3 months now :) Also on Ubuntu 10.04 with 1.72 here... I just leave two terminal windows running in the background - one for streamupdate.sh and and I manually start the netcat process with settings in the other, for example: netcat -k -u -l 6868 /home/user/streamdata/song.dat It's not especially elegant as there's a two terminal windows there, but most of our presenters only use RDAirplay anyway so it isn't an issue for us at present. Come to mention it, I was testing this on another machine the other day, and netcat did die for me whenever it was launched from a script. I.e. it would save one title update to the song.dat file but would then end. Thought nothing of it as I was just experimenting, but could be an issue with ubuntu/netcat maybe? I seem to remember Fred G mentioned something about RLMs for now/next data, does anyone know if RD 2.X RLMs will work with 1.72? Or am I just being daft? HTH Tom Dawson FANTASY RADIO www.fantasyradio.co.uk On 10/05/2012 12:32, Geoff Barkman wrote: I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki. http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72 But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast server. I've modified as per the instructions... NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of this version, you'll have to change the options passed to nc in the song.sh file. Change netcat -l -u -p $port $songdat to netcat -k -u -l $port $songdat Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it? Many thanks Geoff ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Regards, Tom Dawson Fantasy Radio www.fantasyradio.co.uk ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
One thing I don't get about Myriad's layout is why so much real estate is devoted to the width of the NOW, NEXT and LATER events, as well as the width of the log in the lower part of the screen. With the absence of any text or useful info, that's an awful lot of white space going unused. I get it if the design is going for a 'comfort factor' by emulating the spacing found on paper logs of yore. But broadcasters who have come in over the past 10 years have likely never worked with hardcopy logs and would not see the parallel. Although I *do* admit I like the ability to color-code the background on certain events, as well as assign icons to them (Music, Time, etc). I saw RCS do this more than a decade ago, but their icons were extremely cartooney. The ones used by Myriad are just subtle enough to be understood without being visually intrusive. Just putting in my .02 milliwatts... -ap ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
I like all of the ideas so far. How about a screen that would let you record phone calls to put on air with a quick turn around? Nathaniel C. Steele Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM On 5/10/2012 3:00 AM, James Harrison wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 to the segue idea. Being able to put scripts into Rivendell that can be displayed in that area would also be great - not all stations do voicetracking so this would perhaps be useful to them. Detailed current item info might also be useful (notes etc). http://www.psquared.net/umbraco/ImageGen.ashx?image=/media/15585/log-active.png - - this is how Myriad's log screen looks (the new one, V4, at least) - the segue editor there lets you drag the waveforms about to change links, just for some reflection on what that product does. Also - with 16x9 monitors we'd have more space both in rdairplay -and- rdpanel; what could go in the side of rdpanel other than more buttons? Cheers, James Harrison On 10 May 2012 07:10:09, Morten Krarup Nielsen wrote: I am experimenting with this for v3.x right now. One item that is already on the roadmap is a voicetracker for the right-hand side, since we now have the required real estate. That sounds really nice :-) What are some other useful things we could do with that extra real estate? One thing could be graphics showing the waveform for the current playing song with small indications of segue, talk-time and so on. This way, the host quickly gets an idea of how the track ends. Kind regards, Morten ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+rZ4gACgkQ22kkGnnJQAy/RgCgjxkuLVYrQQxX6rGX7THs21l8 sXcAoKELbrGq2vqrSouE4ttF1ysGga2m =h7bm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
I'll join in with the script window. We have that facility on an ancient play out system where we put simple stuff in like Featured in the film The Three Idiots starring some really famous guy. It helps as a prompt for presenters who don't always have a clue what the song is. Wayne Merricks The Voice Asia 0121 522 6080 On 10/05/12 08:00, James Harrison wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 to the segue idea. Being able to put scripts into Rivendell that can be displayed in that area would also be great - not all stations do voicetracking so this would perhaps be useful to them. Detailed current item info might also be useful (notes etc). http://www.psquared.net/umbraco/ImageGen.ashx?image=/media/15585/log-active.png - - this is how Myriad's log screen looks (the new one, V4, at least) - the segue editor there lets you drag the waveforms about to change links, just for some reflection on what that product does. Also - with 16x9 monitors we'd have more space both in rdairplay -and- rdpanel; what could go in the side of rdpanel other than more buttons? Cheers, James Harrison On 10 May 2012 07:10:09, Morten Krarup Nielsen wrote: I am experimenting with this for v3.x right now. One item that is already on the roadmap is a voicetracker for the right-hand side, since we now have the required real estate. That sounds really nice :-) What are some other useful things we could do with that extra real estate? One thing could be graphics showing the waveform for the current playing song with small indications of segue, talk-time and so on. This way, the host quickly gets an idea of how the track ends. Kind regards, Morten ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+rZ4gACgkQ22kkGnnJQAy/RgCgjxkuLVYrQQxX6rGX7THs21l8 sXcAoKELbrGq2vqrSouE4ttF1ysGga2m =h7bm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ### Scanned by MailMarshal ### Attention: The information contained in this message is confidential and intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems, please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Christian Vision or any of its subsidiaries will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. Please note that we reserve the right to monitor and read any e-mails sent or received by the company under the Telecommunications (Lawful Business Practice) (Interception of Communications) Regulation 2000. Christian Vision is registered in England as a limited company 2842414 and as a charity 1031031 ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
I would suggest adding the ability to monitor inputs to Rivendell or the sound card. In our current system setup we play out tracks through rdairplay into our mixer then record back into the computer and send the audio to the encoder (darkice) using jack. It would be nice if you could select an additional channel or channels to monitor as a visual cue to the host that their audio is making it back into the system, and at a proper level. T.J. Florida Tech College Radio ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
I don't like complicating Rivendell with a bunch of other clutter...as we can see, just about everyone has a different thought on what works for them... (I like the ability to put liner cards and stuff up, some people want promo copy, etc)... what could really be interesting is a window, that you could run other programs of choice...I saw this with some bbs software years ago, you could basically drop to dos, and then run anything you wanted, the program would then display the program to the caller on the other end of the modem)... we don't need to go that far, but if there was a window, that could be assigned at will, everyone might be happy??? From: T.J. Misilo misi...@gmail.com To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors I would suggest adding the ability to monitor inputs to Rivendell or the sound card. In our current system setup we play out tracks through rdairplay into our mixer then record back into the computer and send the audio to the encoder (darkice) using jack. It would be nice if you could select an additional channel or channels to monitor as a visual cue to the host that their audio is making it back into the system, and at a proper level. T.J. Florida Tech College Radio ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] off topic question
Please forgive the intrusion to this list and the questions at hand. I am need of assistance connecting the IPump from Wegener. Using the old Wave Station If anyone can direct me to a source of folks using this that I can contact for information. Thanks Dan Kolenda WVIJ FM w...@wvij.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Rivendell accross multiple monitors
Hi guys, Would it be helpful to have live copy / notes scheduled with the music and displayed in the second screen? I have always seen folders and notes on almost every board I have ever used. Fred may want to comment on whether that would be possible, or worth the effort. Dave David R. Wilson KU4B 615 459 0678 house 615 579 3177 cell 615 869 9244 cell ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server
On May 10, 2012, at 07:32 59, Geoff Barkman wrote: Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it? Upgrade to 2.x, which includes an RLM for updating Shoutcast. Alternatively, you could backport that RLM to v1.x. Cheers! |-| | Frederick F. Gleason, Jr. | Chief Developer | | | Paravel Systems | |-| | A room without books is like a body without a soul.| | -- Cicero | |-| ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] off topic question
BSI was the creator of WaveStation. Can you not find anyone helpful in the site's Forum (http://support.bsiusa.com/forum/index.php)? AP - Original Message - From: Daniel Kolenda Jr. w...@wvij.com To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:35:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RDD] off topic question Please forgive the intrusion to this list and the questions at hand. I am need of assistance connecting the IPump from Wegener. Using the old Wave Station If anyone can direct me to a source of folks using this that I can contact for information. Thanks Dan Kolenda WVIJ FM w...@wvij.com ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server
May be there is something wrong to the process running in the background with an ampersand () ? If you wanted to get rid of the terminals and still run it the way you do. Bring up the non-graphical login screen on Ubuntu run one process on ALT-CTRL-F2 and the other on ALT-CTRL-F3. To return to the graphical environment hit ALT-CTRL-F7 (where your Rdairplay is running) On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Tom Dawson t...@tomdawson.co.uk wrote: Not really a solution, but it has been working for us for nearly 3 months now :) Also on Ubuntu 10.04 with 1.72 here... I just leave two terminal windows running in the background - one for streamupdate.sh and and I manually start the netcat process with settings in the other, for example: netcat -k -u -l 6868 /home/user/streamdata/song.dat It's not especially elegant as there's a two terminal windows there, but most of our presenters only use RDAirplay anyway so it isn't an issue for us at present. Come to mention it, I was testing this on another machine the other day, and netcat did die for me whenever it was launched from a script. I.e. it would save one title update to the song.dat file but would then end. Thought nothing of it as I was just experimenting, but could be an issue with ubuntu/netcat maybe? I seem to remember Fred G mentioned something about RLMs for now/next data, does anyone know if RD 2.X RLMs will work with 1.72? Or am I just being daft? HTH Tom Dawson FANTASY RADIO www.fantasyradio.co.uk On 10/05/2012 12:32, Geoff Barkman wrote: I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki. http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72 But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast server. I've modified as per the instructions... NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of this version, you'll have to change the options passed to nc in the song.sh file. Change netcat -l -u -p $port $songdat to netcat -k -u -l $port $songdat Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it? Many thanks Geoff ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Regards, Tom Dawson Fantasy Radio www.fantasyradio.co.uk ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Streamdata (Song titles) to a shoutcast server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bit of a nasty kludge, but if netcat is dying regularly: while true; do netcat blah; sleep 5; done Best solution like Fred said is to update, though. Cheers, James Harrison On 10 May 2012 22:17:06, Geoff Barkman wrote: May be there is something wrong to the process running in the background with an ampersand () ? If you wanted to get rid of the terminals and still run it the way you do. Bring up the non-graphical login screen on Ubuntu run one process on ALT-CTRL-F2 and the other on ALT-CTRL-F3. To return to the graphical environment hit ALT-CTRL-F7 (where your Rdairplay is running) On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Tom Dawson t...@tomdawson.co.uk wrote: Not really a solution, but it has been working for us for nearly 3 months now :) Also on Ubuntu 10.04 with 1.72 here... I just leave two terminal windows running in the background - one for streamupdate.sh and and I manually start the netcat process with settings in the other, for example: netcat -k -u -l 6868 /home/user/streamdata/song.dat It's not especially elegant as there's a two terminal windows there, but most of our presenters only use RDAirplay anyway so it isn't an issue for us at present. Come to mention it, I was testing this on another machine the other day, and netcat did die for me whenever it was launched from a script. I.e. it would save one title update to the song.dat file but would then end. Thought nothing of it as I was just experimenting, but could be an issue with ubuntu/netcat maybe? I seem to remember Fred G mentioned something about RLMs for now/next data, does anyone know if RD 2.X RLMs will work with 1.72? Or am I just being daft? HTH Tom Dawson FANTASY RADIO www.fantasyradio.co.uk On 10/05/2012 12:32, Geoff Barkman wrote: I've been following the instructions on the Rivendell Wiki. http://rivendell.tryphon.org/wiki/Streaming_from_Rivendell#Icecast2.2FShoutcast_Meta_Data_from_Rivendell I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Rivendell 1.72 But netcat dies after a few mins of sending track titles to a shoutcast server. I've modified as per the instructions... NOTE: If you are using Ubuntu 10.04, due to changes in the netcat of this version, you'll have to change the options passed to nc in the song.sh file. Change netcat -l -u -p $port $songdat to netcat -k -u -l $port $songdat Anyone else had this problem and how did you solve it? Many thanks Geoff ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -- Regards, Tom Dawson Fantasy Radio www.fantasyradio.co.uk ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+sMpgACgkQ22kkGnnJQAzo4ACfWWVIs0XfHKAQopYBfWUoIy1s 870AnAmWtXjrtifHDZj4/bgAfh2oyOqB =/XWb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://lists.rivendellaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
