Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
> Yes, had to compile from source took several hours. Runs really slowly > as caed ripcd use 100% cpu. All you need is rmlsend as far as I remember > this is standalone and doesn't need the riv daemons to work. If you only need the rmlsend functionality then you can also use netcat and do something like this echo "LL 1 Testlog"\! | nc -q 1 -u host.example.com 5859 Regards Gerrit > > Wayne Merricks > The Voice Asia > > On 07/03/14 10:46, Lee Baker wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm just wondering has anyone had success loading riv on to the rpi? >> >> If so, how did you achieve this. Keen to try the gpios out on it. >> >> *From:*Brian [mailto:theturtl...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 March 2014 5:54 AM >> *To:* Karl Koscher >> *Cc:* Lee Baker; User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation >> System >> *Subject:* Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Karl Koscher > <mailto:super...@uwave.fm>> wrote: >> >> Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? >> >> It basically would be Arduino based, just on a board that is more >> purpose-made, and without some of the extra stuff on the Arduino. >> >> But you raise a good point... may as well just use an Arduino directly >> and save the time and trouble unless this project would bring >> something new and novel. >> >> As for ethernet, Yes I certainly could do that. Along the same lines, >> probably simplest to just use an Arduino Ethernet. But the question >> of how to interface still remains. Need documentation for the >> relevant protocols etc to interface with Rivendell. >> >> The one minor annoyance is that Arduino Ethernet units don't have >> proper MAC addresses. You have to supply or derive one on your own. >> And if I recall, the DHCP implementation isn't particularly reliable >> or robust. >> >> Probably best to look at the RasPi or a BeagleBone instead at this >> point, as they're cheaper than the Arduino Ethernet anyway. >> >> The only thing I can think of that would actually make a project like >> this worthwhile, after further consideration, is if it can yield a >> trouble free, almost zero-setup, appliance-type box that interfaces >> super easily with Rivendell, requires no maintenance, and is in an >> extra-convenient form factor (1U Rackmount?) >> >> Nevertheless, I'm still curious about how to interface with >> Rivendell's GPIO support, if nothing else than for tinkering with >> hardware, learning, and getting something working. >> >> Brian >> >> >> >> ___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Yes, had to compile from source took several hours. Runs really slowly as caed ripcd use 100% cpu. All you need is rmlsend as far as I remember this is standalone and doesn't need the riv daemons to work. Wayne Merricks The Voice Asia On 07/03/14 10:46, Lee Baker wrote: Hi All, I'm just wondering has anyone had success loading riv on to the rpi? If so, how did you achieve this. Keen to try the gpios out on it. *From:*Brian [mailto:theturtl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 March 2014 5:54 AM *To:* Karl Koscher *Cc:* Lee Baker; User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System *Subject:* Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Karl Koscher <mailto:super...@uwave.fm>> wrote: Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? It basically would be Arduino based, just on a board that is more purpose-made, and without some of the extra stuff on the Arduino. But you raise a good point... may as well just use an Arduino directly and save the time and trouble unless this project would bring something new and novel. As for ethernet, Yes I certainly could do that. Along the same lines, probably simplest to just use an Arduino Ethernet. But the question of how to interface still remains. Need documentation for the relevant protocols etc to interface with Rivendell. The one minor annoyance is that Arduino Ethernet units don't have proper MAC addresses. You have to supply or derive one on your own. And if I recall, the DHCP implementation isn't particularly reliable or robust. Probably best to look at the RasPi or a BeagleBone instead at this point, as they're cheaper than the Arduino Ethernet anyway. The only thing I can think of that would actually make a project like this worthwhile, after further consideration, is if it can yield a trouble free, almost zero-setup, appliance-type box that interfaces super easily with Rivendell, requires no maintenance, and is in an extra-convenient form factor (1U Rackmount?) Nevertheless, I'm still curious about how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO support, if nothing else than for tinkering with hardware, learning, and getting something working. Brian ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Hi All, I'm just wondering has anyone had success loading riv on to the rpi? If so, how did you achieve this. Keen to try the gpios out on it. From: Brian [mailto:theturtl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2014 5:54 AM To: Karl Koscher Cc: Lee Baker; User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Karl Koscher mailto:super...@uwave.fm> > wrote: Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? It basically would be Arduino based, just on a board that is more purpose-made, and without some of the extra stuff on the Arduino. But you raise a good point... may as well just use an Arduino directly and save the time and trouble unless this project would bring something new and novel. As for ethernet, Yes I certainly could do that. Along the same lines, probably simplest to just use an Arduino Ethernet. But the question of how to interface still remains. Need documentation for the relevant protocols etc to interface with Rivendell. The one minor annoyance is that Arduino Ethernet units don't have proper MAC addresses. You have to supply or derive one on your own. And if I recall, the DHCP implementation isn't particularly reliable or robust. Probably best to look at the RasPi or a BeagleBone instead at this point, as they're cheaper than the Arduino Ethernet anyway. The only thing I can think of that would actually make a project like this worthwhile, after further consideration, is if it can yield a trouble free, almost zero-setup, appliance-type box that interfaces super easily with Rivendell, requires no maintenance, and is in an extra-convenient form factor (1U Rackmount?) Nevertheless, I'm still curious about how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO support, if nothing else than for tinkering with hardware, learning, and getting something working. Brian ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Jim Stewart wrote: At another radio station I work for, I rigged up an "air-check skimmer" audio logger machine out of an old (very old) computer running Linux and triggered it from a parallel port using somebody's program called something like bit pin or something like that that simply allowed to read or set pins on the port. parashell. I have a couple clients using that on Rivendell machines. But a lot of new motherboards no longer include parallel ports. Rob ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
What I did was connect the Broadcast Tools switcher to the USB-to-serial converter and plug the latter into the Rivendell machine, where it showed up as /dev/ttyUSB0. I could then use rdadmin to map it as Switcher 0, and Rivendell can now control the switcher. Rob On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Brian McKelvey wrote: USB-Serial gives you an RS-232 port, but you still have to do something with that port, connect it to something to interface with, for example. Are you saying that you can use some of the RS-232 pins as GPIO directly? Brian Sent from my iPhone On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:36 AM, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: There's no need; you can use a USB-to-serial adapter. I am doing this on several stations. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Jim Stewart wrote: > However trying to toggle control pins (such as CTS or DTR) in a non-RS232 > way might be a little hit-and-miss with these as some chip sets seem to do > this better than others. Then it might be tricky to actually drive much of > anything with the signals due to the waveforms described above. > Right. And it would be a bit of a hack, which is fine, but my goal is to make something that can be relied upon, and works to spec, and is purpose-built for the task at hand. > > At another radio station I work for, I rigged up an "air-check skimmer" > audio logger machine out of an old (very old) computer running Linux and > triggered it from a parallel port using somebody's program called something > like bit pin or something like that that simply allowed to read or set > pins on the port. In fact I also used this program for even another radio > station where I rigged up a primitive automation system for satellite > delivered content using Linux and a GPIO controlled audio switcher that > they used for a few months as I was building their "real" radio studio (I > wasn't up to speed on Rivendell at that time). > Cool :-) It's fun to come up with out-of-the-box solutions for off-the-beaten-path problems, especially when they work! > Finally, my opinion of Arduino is good until you need to do networking > with them at which point I think a Raspberry Pi becomes more cost effective > (plus you then get power of Linux!). > I agree completely. I have 3 extra RasPis laying around, so maybe I'll play with that. Brian ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
I also have good success with those USB to RS232 adapters which is amazing since I've looked at the very ugly waveforms these things produce due to lack of power from their built-in DC-DC converters. However trying to toggle control pins (such as CTS or DTR) in a non-RS232 way might be a little hit-and-miss with these as some chip sets seem to do this better than others. Then it might be tricky to actually drive much of anything with the signals due to the waveforms described above. At another radio station I work for, I rigged up an "air-check skimmer" audio logger machine out of an old (very old) computer running Linux and triggered it from a parallel port using somebody's program called something like bit pin or something like that that simply allowed to read or set pins on the port. In fact I also used this program for even another radio station where I rigged up a primitive automation system for satellite delivered content using Linux and a GPIO controlled audio switcher that they used for a few months as I was building their "real" radio studio (I wasn't up to speed on Rivendell at that time). Finally, my opinion of Arduino is good until you need to do networking with them at which point I think a Raspberry Pi becomes more cost effective (plus you then get power of Linux!). -Original Message- From: Brian McKelvey [mailto:theturtl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 9:44 AM To: Rob Landry Cc: Jim Stewart; rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? USB-Serial gives you an RS-232 port, but you still have to do something with that port, connect it to something to interface with, for example. Are you saying that you can use some of the RS-232 pins as GPIO directly? Brian Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:36 AM, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > > There's no need; you can use a USB-to-serial adapter. I am doing this on > several stations. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
USB-Serial gives you an RS-232 port, but you still have to do something with that port, connect it to something to interface with, for example. Are you saying that you can use some of the RS-232 pins as GPIO directly? Brian Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:36 AM, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > > There's no need; you can use a USB-to-serial adapter. I am doing this on > several stations. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Cowboy wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2014 06:36:16 am Rob Landry wrote: There's no need; you can use a USB-to-serial adapter. I am doing this on several stations. And if you're lucky, sometimes they even work ! I've yet to encounter one that didn't. Under Debian 6 and Debian 7, they show up as /dev/ttyUSB0. Rob ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
On Wednesday 05 March 2014 06:36:16 am Rob Landry wrote: > There's no need; you can use a USB-to-serial adapter. I am doing this on > several stations. And if you're lucky, sometimes they even work ! -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com Greener's Law: Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Brian wrote: For me, I'm doing this at home as a hobby for now, so gear meant for real broadcasters, even at the low end of the price spectrum by broadcast standards, is out of the question. I'm curious how the Broadcast Tools 8.2 interfaces... USB or Ethernet are optional add-ons, the only connection it seems to mention on the Broadcast Tools website is RS-232. Is that how you connect it to Rivendell? If so, that suggests I should be able to make my own RS-232 device to interface with Rivendell pretty easily. There's no need; you can use a USB-to-serial adapter. I am doing this on several stations. Rob___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
True. It would take more work, as I'd have to find the relevant source code within Rivendell, and figure out what it does, rather than reading the specification. Also, my implementation may not end up being fully compliant with the protocol, and it would be hard to say whether it would work reliably on any other systems. If I'm going to implement LiveWire for GPIO, I want to do it right. Brian On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Karl Koscher wrote: > Well, since Rivendell is open source, you can learn enough about the Axia > protocol to make something that interoperates with Rivendell. > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Brian wrote: > >> For me, I'm doing this at home as a hobby for now, so gear meant for real >> broadcasters, even at the low end of the price spectrum by broadcast >> standards, is out of the question. I'm curious how the Broadcast Tools 8.2 >> interfaces... USB or Ethernet are optional add-ons, the only connection it >> seems to mention on the Broadcast Tools website is RS-232. Is that how you >> connect it to Rivendell? If so, that suggests I should be able to make my >> own RS-232 device to interface with Rivendell pretty easily. Might even be >> able to just replicate the protocol used for this switcher, at least for >> the GPIO functions, and Rivendell wouldn't know the difference. >> >> But I agree with you, implementing the Axia protocol would be *FAR* more >> interesting and useful. I'm under the impression that the protocol >> specification isn't readily freely available though? >> >> Brian >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Jim Stewart wrote: >> >>> If could also use an audio switcher (which can also be nicely >>> controlled by Rivendell), I've been using the GPIOs from a Broadcast Tools >>> ACS 8.2 (8 input by 2 output audio switcher) that also has 16 GPIs and GPOs >>> plus a Silence Sensor that interacts with Rivendell nicely. I've been >>> using it all with good success. I have a remote broadcast setup using a >>> Telos Z/IP-One that also can transmit GPIOs across an Internet link and >>> have it set up to do functions like "Go live after next event", "Return to >>> Automation", that also turns on tally LED's at the remote site that say >>> things like "You will go live next" and "you ARE live on the air". It all >>> works very well except for my recent buggy macro issues I reported about a >>> couple of weeks ago, but none of that seems to be related to GPIOs, just >>> timing bugs in Rivendell. >>> >>> >>> >>> So the switcher is about $1000 USD, but since they have been made for a >>> long time, they (or their earlier version "SS-8.2") are seen out on the >>> used market from time to time too. For us it been a "one box, does lots of >>> nice things" solution. >>> http://www.broadcasttools.com/view_product.php?pid=145 >>> >>> >>> >>> For those who are still wanting to roll your own, I would think it would >>> be nice if it could use the Axia protocol that seems to be somewhat >>> integrated into Rivendell, as once you master that you could also control >>> lots of other Axia compatible products too. I don't know much of this as >>> in if you need some sort of Axia master device to make it all work or not. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Rivendell-dev mailing list >>> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >>> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> >> > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Well, since Rivendell is open source, you can learn enough about the Axia protocol to make something that interoperates with Rivendell. On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Brian wrote: > For me, I'm doing this at home as a hobby for now, so gear meant for real > broadcasters, even at the low end of the price spectrum by broadcast > standards, is out of the question. I'm curious how the Broadcast Tools 8.2 > interfaces... USB or Ethernet are optional add-ons, the only connection it > seems to mention on the Broadcast Tools website is RS-232. Is that how you > connect it to Rivendell? If so, that suggests I should be able to make my > own RS-232 device to interface with Rivendell pretty easily. Might even be > able to just replicate the protocol used for this switcher, at least for > the GPIO functions, and Rivendell wouldn't know the difference. > > But I agree with you, implementing the Axia protocol would be *FAR* more > interesting and useful. I'm under the impression that the protocol > specification isn't readily freely available though? > > Brian > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Jim Stewart wrote: > >> If could also use an audio switcher (which can also be nicely >> controlled by Rivendell), I've been using the GPIOs from a Broadcast Tools >> ACS 8.2 (8 input by 2 output audio switcher) that also has 16 GPIs and GPOs >> plus a Silence Sensor that interacts with Rivendell nicely. I've been >> using it all with good success. I have a remote broadcast setup using a >> Telos Z/IP-One that also can transmit GPIOs across an Internet link and >> have it set up to do functions like "Go live after next event", "Return to >> Automation", that also turns on tally LED's at the remote site that say >> things like "You will go live next" and "you ARE live on the air". It all >> works very well except for my recent buggy macro issues I reported about a >> couple of weeks ago, but none of that seems to be related to GPIOs, just >> timing bugs in Rivendell. >> >> >> >> So the switcher is about $1000 USD, but since they have been made for a >> long time, they (or their earlier version "SS-8.2") are seen out on the >> used market from time to time too. For us it been a "one box, does lots of >> nice things" solution. >> http://www.broadcasttools.com/view_product.php?pid=145 >> >> >> >> For those who are still wanting to roll your own, I would think it would >> be nice if it could use the Axia protocol that seems to be somewhat >> integrated into Rivendell, as once you master that you could also control >> lots of other Axia compatible products too. I don't know much of this as >> in if you need some sort of Axia master device to make it all work or not. >> >> >> >> ___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> >> > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
For me, I'm doing this at home as a hobby for now, so gear meant for real broadcasters, even at the low end of the price spectrum by broadcast standards, is out of the question. I'm curious how the Broadcast Tools 8.2 interfaces... USB or Ethernet are optional add-ons, the only connection it seems to mention on the Broadcast Tools website is RS-232. Is that how you connect it to Rivendell? If so, that suggests I should be able to make my own RS-232 device to interface with Rivendell pretty easily. Might even be able to just replicate the protocol used for this switcher, at least for the GPIO functions, and Rivendell wouldn't know the difference. But I agree with you, implementing the Axia protocol would be *FAR* more interesting and useful. I'm under the impression that the protocol specification isn't readily freely available though? Brian On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Jim Stewart wrote: > If could also use an audio switcher (which can also be nicely controlled > by Rivendell), I've been using the GPIOs from a Broadcast Tools ACS 8.2 (8 > input by 2 output audio switcher) that also has 16 GPIs and GPOs plus a > Silence Sensor that interacts with Rivendell nicely. I've been using it > all with good success. I have a remote broadcast setup using a Telos > Z/IP-One that also can transmit GPIOs across an Internet link and have it > set up to do functions like "Go live after next event", "Return to > Automation", that also turns on tally LED's at the remote site that say > things like "You will go live next" and "you ARE live on the air". It all > works very well except for my recent buggy macro issues I reported about a > couple of weeks ago, but none of that seems to be related to GPIOs, just > timing bugs in Rivendell. > > > > So the switcher is about $1000 USD, but since they have been made for a > long time, they (or their earlier version "SS-8.2") are seen out on the > used market from time to time too. For us it been a "one box, does lots of > nice things" solution. > http://www.broadcasttools.com/view_product.php?pid=145 > > > > For those who are still wanting to roll your own, I would think it would > be nice if it could use the Axia protocol that seems to be somewhat > integrated into Rivendell, as once you master that you could also control > lots of other Axia compatible products too. I don't know much of this as > in if you need some sort of Axia master device to make it all work or not. > > > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Karl Koscher wrote: > Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? > It basically would be Arduino based, just on a board that is more purpose-made, and without some of the extra stuff on the Arduino. But you raise a good point... may as well just use an Arduino directly and save the time and trouble unless this project would bring something new and novel. As for ethernet, Yes I certainly could do that. Along the same lines, probably simplest to just use an Arduino Ethernet. But the question of how to interface still remains. Need documentation for the relevant protocols etc to interface with Rivendell. The one minor annoyance is that Arduino Ethernet units don't have proper MAC addresses. You have to supply or derive one on your own. And if I recall, the DHCP implementation isn't particularly reliable or robust. Probably best to look at the RasPi or a BeagleBone instead at this point, as they're cheaper than the Arduino Ethernet anyway. The only thing I can think of that would actually make a project like this worthwhile, after further consideration, is if it can yield a trouble free, almost zero-setup, appliance-type box that interfaces super easily with Rivendell, requires no maintenance, and is in an extra-convenient form factor (1U Rackmount?) Nevertheless, I'm still curious about how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO support, if nothing else than for tinkering with hardware, learning, and getting something working. Brian ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
If could also use an audio switcher (which can also be nicely controlled by Rivendell), I've been using the GPIOs from a Broadcast Tools ACS 8.2 (8 input by 2 output audio switcher) that also has 16 GPIs and GPOs plus a Silence Sensor that interacts with Rivendell nicely. I've been using it all with good success. I have a remote broadcast setup using a Telos Z/IP-One that also can transmit GPIOs across an Internet link and have it set up to do functions like "Go live after next event", "Return to Automation", that also turns on tally LED's at the remote site that say things like "You will go live next" and "you ARE live on the air". It all works very well except for my recent buggy macro issues I reported about a couple of weeks ago, but none of that seems to be related to GPIOs, just timing bugs in Rivendell. So the switcher is about $1000 USD, but since they have been made for a long time, they (or their earlier version "SS-8.2") are seen out on the used market from time to time too. For us it been a "one box, does lots of nice things" solution. http://www.broadcasttools.com/view_product.php?pid=145 For those who are still wanting to roll your own, I would think it would be nice if it could use the Axia protocol that seems to be somewhat integrated into Rivendell, as once you master that you could also control lots of other Axia compatible products too. I don't know much of this as in if you need some sort of Axia master device to make it all work or not. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Hi,
I don't have anything to show, it was just a board I have that I play
with from time to time. I'm currently turning it into a 1U IP audio
receiver. I got all the info from this site:
http://wiringpi.com/
The main thing to remember is the pi is only 3.3v so be careful of the
voltages.
Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia
On 04/03/14 11:26, Lee Baker wrote:
Hi Wayne,
I have a Pi and had thought to use its GPIOs but wasn't sure of how to
do it.
How have you set yours up?
*From:*rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org
[mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] *On Behalf Of
*Wayne Merricks
*Sent:* Tuesday, 4 March 2014 9:14 PM
*To:* rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
*Subject:* Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Hi all,
Coming from a completely different angle I've been toying with using a
Pi's GPIO pins and rmlsend to interface to Riv.
Pi + PSU + SD Card would set you back about £35 so not too expensive
either. Something to think about.
Regards,
Wayne Merricks
The Voice Asia
On 04/03/14 07:16, Karl Koscher wrote:
Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work?
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lee Baker mailto:imsoniacn...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Your project sound interesting. I'd certainly be interested.
I am in need of an interface so that I can remote fire from
mixing console.
Have tried using an old soundcard with midi port and making a
joystick plug to no avail, have also tried finding info on
using the serial port but this is hard as there is very little
documentation.
Good luck J
Lee
*From:*rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org
<mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>
[mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org
<mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>] *On
Behalf Of *Brian
*Sent:* Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:52 PM
*To:* User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
*Subject:* [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
I'm thinking of making my own GPIO interface for Rivendell,
custom circuit board, etc., based on an Atmel Microcontroller.
The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would
probably be RS-232.
I can program the chip to speak any arbitrary protocol.
Where should I look to find out how to interface with
Rivendell's GPIO support?
And if I make these things, would anyone else here be
interested in one? I'm not looking to sell them commercially,
but it's always fun to share your creations with others who
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Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
> Weirdly, that's a setup we've been using until recently. We had a Pi > controlling a four pole relay over a Mixpak input to do some dumb > satellite > switching for news. Rivendell sent commands over UDP to a short script we > knocked together that turned the output on/off. Details at > http://broadcastingtechnology.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/irn-switching-the-weird-way/if > you're really bored. Nice idea, and if you have a spare serial or parallel port you don't even need a pi just adjust the script to change one of the control ports. Regard Gerrit > > It's entirely workable but you do need a nice way of sending the data back > to Rivendell for the input side of things. I'd also assume if you're > wanting a GPIO box, you would need to either simulate a supported box or > write a plugin for Rivendell. > > Regards, > > Marc Steele. > Program Controller - NHR. > > > On 4 March 2014 11:13, Wayne Merricks > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Coming from a completely different angle I've been toying with using a >> Pi's GPIO pins and rmlsend to interface to Riv. >> >> Pi + PSU + SD Card would set you back about £35 so not too expensive >> either. Something to think about. >> >> Regards, >> >> Wayne Merricks >> The Voice Asia >> >> On 04/03/14 07:16, Karl Koscher wrote: >> >> Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lee Baker >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> >>> >>> Your project sound interesting. I'd certainly be interested. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am in need of an interface so that I can remote fire from mixing >>> console. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have tried using an old soundcard with midi port and making a joystick >>> plug to no avail, have also tried finding info on using the serial port >>> but >>> this is hard as there is very little documentation. >>> >>> >>> >>> Good luck J >>> >>> >>> >>> Lee >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto: >>> rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:52 PM >>> *To:* User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System >>> *Subject:* [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm thinking of making my own GPIO interface for Rivendell, custom >>> circuit board, etc., based on an Atmel Microcontroller. >>> >>> >>> >>> The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably >>> be >>> RS-232. >>> >>> >>> >>> I can program the chip to speak any arbitrary protocol. >>> >>> >>> >>> Where should I look to find out how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO >>> support? >>> >>> >>> >>> And if I make these things, would anyone else here be interested in >>> one? >>> I'm not looking to sell them commercially, but it's always fun to >>> share >>> your creations with others who might benefit from them, and help offset >>> the >>> costs. >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Rivendell-dev mailing list >>> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >>> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing >> listRivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orghttp://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> >> >> >> ___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> >> > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Tis true Cowboy, All of my machines, bar my main desktop have serial on them and parallel ports. I just want to fire off from the fader channel on the panel. Just reading how the Pi GPIOs are laid out, assuming it would just be a matter of wiring the fader chanel nc wires to ground and a gpio then program riv to pick it up. Does riv support the GPIOs on the pi? Of course it wouldn't be much use for anything else due to it's lack of oomph... -Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Cowboy Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 9:42 PM To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? On Monday 03 March 2014 10:52:09 pm Brian wrote: > The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably > be RS-232. Does anyone still make a machine with a serial port ? I haven't seen one in years. It seems to me that IP would be best, and clearly the most universal, with USB a reasonably close second, but serial is as obsolete as is the parallel port. -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com Love and scandal are the best sweeteners of tea. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
On Monday 03 March 2014 10:52:09 pm Brian wrote: > The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably be > RS-232. Does anyone still make a machine with a serial port ? I haven't seen one in years. It seems to me that IP would be best, and clearly the most universal, with USB a reasonably close second, but serial is as obsolete as is the parallel port. -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com Love and scandal are the best sweeteners of tea. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Hi Wayne, I have a Pi and had thought to use its GPIOs but wasnt sure of how to do it. How have you set yours up? From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Merricks Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 9:14 PM To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? Hi all, Coming from a completely different angle I've been toying with using a Pi's GPIO pins and rmlsend to interface to Riv. Pi + PSU + SD Card would set you back about £35 so not too expensive either. Something to think about. Regards, Wayne Merricks The Voice Asia On 04/03/14 07:16, Karl Koscher wrote: Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lee Baker mailto:imsoniacn...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi Brian, Your project sound interesting. Id certainly be interested. I am in need of an interface so that I can remote fire from mixing console. Have tried using an old soundcard with midi port and making a joystick plug to no avail, have also tried finding info on using the serial port but this is hard as there is very little documentation. Good luck :) Lee From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> ] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:52 PM To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? I'm thinking of making my own GPIO interface for Rivendell, custom circuit board, etc., based on an Atmel Microcontroller. The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably be RS-232. I can program the chip to speak any arbitrary protocol. Where should I look to find out how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO support? And if I make these things, would anyone else here be interested in one? I'm not looking to sell them commercially, but it's always fun to share your creations with others who might benefit from them, and help offset the costs. Brian ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Weirdly, that's a setup we've been using until recently. We had a Pi controlling a four pole relay over a Mixpak input to do some dumb satellite switching for news. Rivendell sent commands over UDP to a short script we knocked together that turned the output on/off. Details at http://broadcastingtechnology.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/irn-switching-the-weird-way/if you're really bored. It's entirely workable but you do need a nice way of sending the data back to Rivendell for the input side of things. I'd also assume if you're wanting a GPIO box, you would need to either simulate a supported box or write a plugin for Rivendell. Regards, Marc Steele. Program Controller - NHR. On 4 March 2014 11:13, Wayne Merricks wrote: > Hi all, > > Coming from a completely different angle I've been toying with using a > Pi's GPIO pins and rmlsend to interface to Riv. > > Pi + PSU + SD Card would set you back about £35 so not too expensive > either. Something to think about. > > Regards, > > Wayne Merricks > The Voice Asia > > On 04/03/14 07:16, Karl Koscher wrote: > > Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lee Baker wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> >> >> >> Your project sound interesting. I'd certainly be interested. >> >> >> >> I am in need of an interface so that I can remote fire from mixing >> console. >> >> >> >> Have tried using an old soundcard with midi port and making a joystick >> plug to no avail, have also tried finding info on using the serial port but >> this is hard as there is very little documentation. >> >> >> >> Good luck J >> >> >> >> Lee >> >> >> >> *From:* rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto: >> rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:52 PM >> *To:* User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System >> *Subject:* [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? >> >> >> >> I'm thinking of making my own GPIO interface for Rivendell, custom >> circuit board, etc., based on an Atmel Microcontroller. >> >> >> >> The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably be >> RS-232. >> >> >> >> I can program the chip to speak any arbitrary protocol. >> >> >> >> Where should I look to find out how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO >> support? >> >> >> >> And if I make these things, would anyone else here be interested in one? >> I'm not looking to sell them commercially, but it's always fun to share >> your creations with others who might benefit from them, and help offset the >> costs. >> >> >> >> Brian >> >> >> >> ___ >> Rivendell-dev mailing list >> Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org >> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev >> >> > > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing > listRivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.orghttp://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Hi all, Coming from a completely different angle I've been toying with using a Pi's GPIO pins and rmlsend to interface to Riv. Pi + PSU + SD Card would set you back about £35 so not too expensive either. Something to think about. Regards, Wayne Merricks The Voice Asia On 04/03/14 07:16, Karl Koscher wrote: Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lee Baker <mailto:imsoniacn...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Brian, Your project sound interesting. I'd certainly be interested. I am in need of an interface so that I can remote fire from mixing console. Have tried using an old soundcard with midi port and making a joystick plug to no avail, have also tried finding info on using the serial port but this is hard as there is very little documentation. Good luck J Lee *From:*rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org> [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org <mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org>] *On Behalf Of *Brian *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:52 PM *To:* User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System *Subject:* [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? I'm thinking of making my own GPIO interface for Rivendell, custom circuit board, etc., based on an Atmel Microcontroller. The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably be RS-232. I can program the chip to speak any arbitrary protocol. Where should I look to find out how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO support? And if I make these things, would anyone else here be interested in one? I'm not looking to sell them commercially, but it's always fun to share your creations with others who might benefit from them, and help offset the costs. Brian ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org <mailto:Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Is there any reason a standard Arduino wouldn't work? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Lee Baker wrote: > Hi Brian, > > > > Your project sound interesting. I'd certainly be interested. > > > > I am in need of an interface so that I can remote fire from mixing console. > > > > Have tried using an old soundcard with midi port and making a joystick > plug to no avail, have also tried finding info on using the serial port but > this is hard as there is very little documentation. > > > > Good luck J > > > > Lee > > > > *From:* rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto: > rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian > *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:52 PM > *To:* User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System > *Subject:* [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? > > > > I'm thinking of making my own GPIO interface for Rivendell, custom circuit > board, etc., based on an Atmel Microcontroller. > > > > The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably be > RS-232. > > > > I can program the chip to speak any arbitrary protocol. > > > > Where should I look to find out how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO > support? > > > > And if I make these things, would anyone else here be interested in one? > I'm not looking to sell them commercially, but it's always fun to share > your creations with others who might benefit from them, and help offset the > costs. > > > > Brian > > > > ___ > Rivendell-dev mailing list > Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev > > ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
Re: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
Hi Brian, Your project sound interesting. I'd certainly be interested. I am in need of an interface so that I can remote fire from mixing console. Have tried using an old soundcard with midi port and making a joystick plug to no avail, have also tried finding info on using the serial port but this is hard as there is very little documentation. Good luck :) Lee From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2014 1:52 PM To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: [RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs? I'm thinking of making my own GPIO interface for Rivendell, custom circuit board, etc., based on an Atmel Microcontroller. The simplest way for me to interface it with the system would probably be RS-232. I can program the chip to speak any arbitrary protocol. Where should I look to find out how to interface with Rivendell's GPIO support? And if I make these things, would anyone else here be interested in one? I'm not looking to sell them commercially, but it's always fun to share your creations with others who might benefit from them, and help offset the costs. Brian ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org http://caspian.paravelsystems.com/mailman/listinfo/rivendell-dev
[RDD] Documentation on implementing GPIOs?
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