Re: [RDD] RDCatch problem

[Tom Van Gorkom]

For CD programs (now very few), we don't use a completely automated
process. We use a dropbox that points to a transfer folder where the audio
is placed and specifies one cart for a daily program such as "Ted Watson"
so all of the daily audio loads in as various cuts. Once imported for the
month, we go to the cart in Riv and set up the valid play dates on each
cut. That's less automated but easy for our staff to do.

For other programs that can be automatically downloaded, I use a script
that gets them, specifies the cart number and adds the valid dates to each
cut. I find that RDCatch works best for FTP sites, especially where the
programs include some sort of date code in the file name that you can use
to specify the playout date.

I hope that makes sense.

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM
Office: 956-380-8150
Cell: 865-803-7427
www.radioesperanza.com

Director of Media
Rio Grande Bible Ministries
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539
www.riogrande.edu


On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 2:06 PM Robert Jeffares 
wrote:

> Tony,
>
> yes Dropbox under rdadmin works for one cart per day. The command line
> rdimport has all the options to load cuts with dates into one cart.
>
> I use a number of scripts to load programmes which turns repetitive tasks
> into a single command. Ok when you are the production person. Not so OK if
> you have operators who may not be command line savvy. Thats when making
> macro's and macro buttons solves the problem.
>
> Permissions can be an issue if you are a user not in the Rivendell set of
> users. Doing everything as 'rd' is reliable.
>
> ls -l on the directory you have created will tell you who owns it and the
> files in it.
>
> Assuming the CD is supplied by a reliable source it should  be fine. Are
> the programmes wav format or mp3? Do you get a week at a time or a month at
> a time? Who sets the broadcast dates? How are the files on the CD labeled?
>
> R
> On 20/12/21 7:13 am, Tony Cox wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
> Thank you. For testing, I have set the time to a few minutes in the
> future. I used Cuts inside the cart that are departed for particular days —
> 001 = Monday 002 = Tuesday, etc. If I use a Dropbox, I don’t see a good way
> to use a Cut. Thus, we would need a Cart number for each day and a new
> event for each day. I was hoping to simplify my events and clocks.
>
> I will look at Dropboxes for the process.
>
> Another option for me is to let Rivendell grab the files from a remote
> computer. I have been successful using ftp access to download.
>
> Do you think that my issue could be permissions related on the Rivendell
> computer?
>
> Also, do you think it may be better to access a remote computer? I’ve been
> following the emails regarding Ransomeware.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Robert Jeffares 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> RDCatch runs at a *time* set in the top right of the Edit Download
> screen. If the time is now, not set in the future,  the catch will happen
> at this time tomorrow or this time on this day next week depending on the
> checkboxes.
>
> Given the work flow you describe I would use the dropbox option in RDAdmin
> > Manage > Hosts > Host > Dropboxes
>
> Depending on the labeling of the tracks on the CD you could put the entire
> weeks programmes in at once and they can be imported as cuts with play date
> set into the cart.
>
> It looks like you use the cart as a two pulse cart with an intro on cut 1
> and the programme on cut 2. I am inclined to do that with two carts one
> with the intro and the second with the daily content.
>
> Another option is to write a shell script to read the tracks from the CD
> and cart them directly. You can call the script from a macro cart and put
> the macro cart on a button in the RDAirplay screen.
>
> RDCatch does require a username and password. It can grab from all sorts
> of places and has a one size fits all interface.
>
>
> regards
>
> Robert
> On 20/12/21 5:08 am, Tony Cox wrote:
>
> I am new to Rivendell and am trying to finish the setup of a machine to run 
> our radio station. Each week we have daily programs that we record from a CD 
> and move the files into our current automation software (SS32).
>
> In Rivendell, RDCatch seems like to ideal solution for us to automate the 
> process and speed up our production work.
>
> I have set up a folder on our new machine called “shows_import”. That will be 
> where I want RDCatch to look for the file. I currently have place a file 
> called “test1.mp3” in the folder and have RDCatch set to look for the file 
> and place it into a Cut in a Cart for departing.
>
> I think I have it set up properly but have been unsuccessful at getting 
> RDCatch to do anything with the file. Here are my settings:
>
> Description: Ted Watson->Cut 002
> URL: file:///home/rd/shows_import/test1.mp3
> User: user  Password: 
> (Although the manual says no user and password are need for file transfer on 
> a drive, RDCatch is still requiring me 

Re: [RDD] RDCatch problem

[Robert Jeffares]

Tony,

yes Dropbox under rdadmin works for one cart per day. The command line 
rdimport has all the options to load cuts with dates into one cart.


I use a number of scripts to load programmes which turns repetitive 
tasks into a single command. Ok when you are the production person. Not 
so OK if you have operators who may not be command line savvy. Thats 
when making macro's and macro buttons solves the problem.


Permissions can be an issue if you are a user not in the Rivendell set 
of users. Doing everything as 'rd' is reliable.


ls -l on the directory you have created will tell you who owns it and 
the files in it.


Assuming the CD is supplied by a reliable source it should  be fine. Are 
the programmes wav format or mp3? Do you get a week at a time or a month 
at a time? Who sets the broadcast dates? How are the files on the CD 
labeled?


R

On 20/12/21 7:13 am, Tony Cox wrote:

Robert,

Thank you. For testing, I have set the time to a few minutes in the 
future. I used Cuts inside the cart that are departed for particular 
days — 001 = Monday 002 = Tuesday, etc. If I use a Dropbox, I don’t 
see a good way to use a Cut. Thus, we would need a Cart number for 
each day and a new event for each day. I was hoping to simplify my 
events and clocks.


I will look at Dropboxes for the process.

Another option for me is to let Rivendell grab the files from a remote 
computer. I have been successful using ftp access to download.


Do you think that my issue could be permissions related on the 
Rivendell computer?


Also, do you think it may be better to access a remote computer? I’ve 
been following the emails regarding Ransomeware.


Tony


On Dec 19, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Robert Jeffares 
mailto:jeffares.rob...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Tony,

RDCatch runs at a *time* set in the top right of the Edit Download 
screen. If the time is now, not set in the future,  the catch will 
happen at this time tomorrow or this time on this day next week 
depending on the checkboxes.


Given the work flow you describe I would use the dropbox option in 
RDAdmin > Manage > Hosts > Host > Dropboxes


Depending on the labeling of the tracks on the CD you could put the 
entire weeks programmes in at once and they can be imported as cuts 
with play date set into the cart.


It looks like you use the cart as a two pulse cart with an intro on 
cut 1 and the programme on cut 2. I am inclined to do that with two 
carts one with the intro and the second with the daily content.


Another option is to write a shell script to read the tracks from the 
CD and cart them directly. You can call the script from a macro cart 
and put the macro cart on a button in the RDAirplay screen.


RDCatch does require a username and password. It can grab from all 
sorts of places and has a one size fits all interface.



regards

Robert

On 20/12/21 5:08 am, Tony Cox wrote:

I am new to Rivendell and am trying to finish the setup of a machine to run our 
radio station. Each week we have daily programs that we record from a CD and 
move the files into our current automation software (SS32).

In Rivendell, RDCatch seems like to ideal solution for us to automate the 
process and speed up our production work.

I have set up a folder on our new machine called “shows_import”. That will be 
where I want RDCatch to look for the file. I currently have place a file called 
“test1.mp3” in the folder and have RDCatch set to look for the file and place 
it into a Cut in a Cart for departing.

I think I have it set up properly but have been unsuccessful at getting RDCatch 
to do anything with the file. Here are my settings:

Description: Ted Watson->Cut 002
URL:file:///home/rd/shows_import/test1.mp3
User: user  Password: 
(Although the manual says no user and password are need for file transfer on a 
drive, RDCatch is still requiring me to have a username associated with the 
event)
Destination: 300121_002
Channels: 2
Autotrim, Normalize, Update Library Metadata (selected)
Active Days: Set to whatever day I am testing.

I have successfully downloaded from an FTP site, but can’t seem to make this 
work when grabbing a file on the same computer. This seemed simple enough but 
for whatever reason, I just haven’t had a success with this set up.

Any guidance is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony
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Re: [RDD] RDCatch problem

[Mike Carroll]

After one of your tests, you might check /var/log/messages to see if
there's anything there about an RDCatch error.  You'll need root access to
view the log.

For permissions, open a command line and see what the "ls -l" command says
about access rights for that file.  You'd like to see read access for user,
group, and world.

Using dropboxes, for specific cut numbers in a single cart I think it's
possible to include the number in the file name and use the %j/%J metadata
character to assign it?  See Appendix E, "Metadata Wildcards" in the Ops &
Admin Guide.

Generally, I think retrieving files from a remote computer is safer than
someone pushing files to your computer, which requires a server and the
attendant security concerns.

Mike

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 10:30 AM Tony Cox  wrote:

> Robert,
>
> Thank you. For testing, I have set the time to a few minutes in the
> future. I used Cuts inside the cart that are departed for particular days —
> 001 = Monday 002 = Tuesday, etc. If I use a Dropbox, I don’t see a good way
> to use a Cut. Thus, we would need a Cart number for each day and a new
> event for each day. I was hoping to simplify my events and clocks.
>
> I will look at Dropboxes for the process.
>
> Another option for me is to let Rivendell grab the files from a remote
> computer. I have been successful using ftp access to download.
>
> Do you think that my issue could be permissions related on the Rivendell
> computer?
>
> Also, do you think it may be better to access a remote computer? I’ve been
> following the emails regarding Ransomeware.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Robert Jeffares 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> RDCatch runs at a *time* set in the top right of the Edit Download
> screen. If the time is now, not set in the future,  the catch will happen
> at this time tomorrow or this time on this day next week depending on the
> checkboxes.
>
> Given the work flow you describe I would use the dropbox option in RDAdmin
> > Manage > Hosts > Host > Dropboxes
>
> Depending on the labeling of the tracks on the CD you could put the entire
> weeks programmes in at once and they can be imported as cuts with play date
> set into the cart.
>
> It looks like you use the cart as a two pulse cart with an intro on cut 1
> and the programme on cut 2. I am inclined to do that with two carts one
> with the intro and the second with the daily content.
>
> Another option is to write a shell script to read the tracks from the CD
> and cart them directly. You can call the script from a macro cart and put
> the macro cart on a button in the RDAirplay screen.
>
> RDCatch does require a username and password. It can grab from all sorts
> of places and has a one size fits all interface.
>
>
> regards
>
> Robert
> On 20/12/21 5:08 am, Tony Cox wrote:
>
> I am new to Rivendell and am trying to finish the setup of a machine to run 
> our radio station. Each week we have daily programs that we record from a CD 
> and move the files into our current automation software (SS32).
>
> In Rivendell, RDCatch seems like to ideal solution for us to automate the 
> process and speed up our production work.
>
> I have set up a folder on our new machine called “shows_import”. That will be 
> where I want RDCatch to look for the file. I currently have place a file 
> called “test1.mp3” in the folder and have RDCatch set to look for the file 
> and place it into a Cut in a Cart for departing.
>
> I think I have it set up properly but have been unsuccessful at getting 
> RDCatch to do anything with the file. Here are my settings:
>
> Description: Ted Watson->Cut 002
> URL: file:///home/rd/shows_import/test1.mp3
> User: user  Password: 
> (Although the manual says no user and password are need for file transfer on 
> a drive, RDCatch is still requiring me to have a username associated with the 
> event)
> Destination: 300121_002
> Channels: 2
> Autotrim, Normalize, Update Library Metadata (selected)
> Active Days: Set to whatever day I am testing.
>
> I have successfully downloaded from an FTP site, but can’t seem to make this 
> work when grabbing a file on the same computer. This seemed simple enough but 
> for whatever reason, I just haven’t had a success with this set up.
>
> Any guidance is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
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Re: [RDD] RDCatch problem

[Tony Cox]

Robert,

Thank you. For testing, I have set the time to a few minutes in the future. I 
used Cuts inside the cart that are departed for particular days — 001 = Monday 
002 = Tuesday, etc. If I use a Dropbox, I don’t see a good way to use a Cut. 
Thus, we would need a Cart number for each day and a new event for each day. I 
was hoping to simplify my events and clocks.

I will look at Dropboxes for the process.

Another option for me is to let Rivendell grab the files from a remote 
computer. I have been successful using ftp access to download.

Do you think that my issue could be permissions related on the Rivendell 
computer?

Also, do you think it may be better to access a remote computer? I’ve been 
following the emails regarding Ransomeware. 

Tony


> On Dec 19, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Robert Jeffares  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> RDCatch runs at a time set in the top right of the Edit Download screen. If 
> the time is now, not set in the future,  the catch will happen at this time 
> tomorrow or this time on this day next week depending on the checkboxes.
> Given the work flow you describe I would use the dropbox option in RDAdmin > 
> Manage > Hosts > Host > Dropboxes
> 
> Depending on the labeling of the tracks on the CD you could put the entire 
> weeks programmes in at once and they can be imported as cuts with play date 
> set into the cart.
> 
> It looks like you use the cart as a two pulse cart with an intro on cut 1 and 
> the programme on cut 2. I am inclined to do that with two carts one with the 
> intro and the second with the daily content. 
> Another option is to write a shell script to read the tracks from the CD and 
> cart them directly. You can call the script from a macro cart and put the 
> macro cart on a button in the RDAirplay screen. 
> RDCatch does require a username and password. It can grab from all sorts of 
> places and has a one size fits all interface.
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> Robert
> On 20/12/21 5:08 am, Tony Cox wrote:
>> I am new to Rivendell and am trying to finish the setup of a machine to run 
>> our radio station. Each week we have daily programs that we record from a CD 
>> and move the files into our current automation software (SS32).
>> 
>> In Rivendell, RDCatch seems like to ideal solution for us to automate the 
>> process and speed up our production work.
>> 
>> I have set up a folder on our new machine called “shows_import”. That will 
>> be where I want RDCatch to look for the file. I currently have place a file 
>> called “test1.mp3” in the folder and have RDCatch set to look for the file 
>> and place it into a Cut in a Cart for departing.
>> 
>> I think I have it set up properly but have been unsuccessful at getting 
>> RDCatch to do anything with the file. Here are my settings:
>> 
>> Description: Ted Watson->Cut 002
>> URL: file:///home/rd/shows_import/test1.mp3 
>> 
>> User: user  Password: 
>> (Although the manual says no user and password are need for file transfer on 
>> a drive, RDCatch is still requiring me to have a username associated with 
>> the event)
>> Destination: 300121_002
>> Channels: 2
>> Autotrim, Normalize, Update Library Metadata (selected)
>> Active Days: Set to whatever day I am testing.
>> 
>> I have successfully downloaded from an FTP site, but can’t seem to make this 
>> work when grabbing a file on the same computer. This seemed simple enough 
>> but for whatever reason, I just haven’t had a success with this set up.
>> 
>> Any guidance is appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tony
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Re: [RDD] RDCatch problem

[Robert Jeffares]

Hi Tony,

RDCatch runs at a *time* set in the top right of the Edit Download 
screen. If the time is now, not set in the future,  the catch will 
happen at this time tomorrow or this time on this day next week 
depending on the checkboxes.


Given the work flow you describe I would use the dropbox option in 
RDAdmin > Manage > Hosts > Host > Dropboxes


Depending on the labeling of the tracks on the CD you could put the 
entire weeks programmes in at once and they can be imported as cuts with 
play date set into the cart.


It looks like you use the cart as a two pulse cart with an intro on cut 
1 and the programme on cut 2. I am inclined to do that with two carts 
one with the intro and the second with the daily content.


Another option is to write a shell script to read the tracks from the CD 
and cart them directly. You can call the script from a macro cart and 
put the macro cart on a button in the RDAirplay screen.


RDCatch does require a username and password. It can grab from all sorts 
of places and has a one size fits all interface.



regards

Robert

On 20/12/21 5:08 am, Tony Cox wrote:

I am new to Rivendell and am trying to finish the setup of a machine to run our 
radio station. Each week we have daily programs that we record from a CD and 
move the files into our current automation software (SS32).

In Rivendell, RDCatch seems like to ideal solution for us to automate the 
process and speed up our production work.

I have set up a folder on our new machine called “shows_import”. That will be 
where I want RDCatch to look for the file. I currently have place a file called 
“test1.mp3” in the folder and have RDCatch set to look for the file and place 
it into a Cut in a Cart for departing.

I think I have it set up properly but have been unsuccessful at getting RDCatch 
to do anything with the file. Here are my settings:

Description: Ted Watson->Cut 002
URL: file:///home/rd/shows_import/test1.mp3
User: user  Password: 
(Although the manual says no user and password are need for file transfer on a 
drive, RDCatch is still requiring me to have a username associated with the 
event)
Destination: 300121_002
Channels: 2
Autotrim, Normalize, Update Library Metadata (selected)
Active Days: Set to whatever day I am testing.

I have successfully downloaded from an FTP site, but can’t seem to make this 
work when grabbing a file on the same computer. This seemed simple enough but 
for whatever reason, I just haven’t had a success with this set up.

Any guidance is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony
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[RDD] RDCatch problem

[Tony Cox]

I am new to Rivendell and am trying to finish the setup of a machine to run our 
radio station. Each week we have daily programs that we record from a CD and 
move the files into our current automation software (SS32).

In Rivendell, RDCatch seems like to ideal solution for us to automate the 
process and speed up our production work.

I have set up a folder on our new machine called “shows_import”. That will be 
where I want RDCatch to look for the file. I currently have place a file called 
“test1.mp3” in the folder and have RDCatch set to look for the file and place 
it into a Cut in a Cart for departing.

I think I have it set up properly but have been unsuccessful at getting RDCatch 
to do anything with the file. Here are my settings:

Description: Ted Watson->Cut 002
URL: file:///home/rd/shows_import/test1.mp3
User: user  Password: 
(Although the manual says no user and password are need for file transfer on a 
drive, RDCatch is still requiring me to have a username associated with the 
event)
Destination: 300121_002
Channels: 2
Autotrim, Normalize, Update Library Metadata (selected)
Active Days: Set to whatever day I am testing.

I have successfully downloaded from an FTP site, but can’t seem to make this 
work when grabbing a file on the same computer. This seemed simple enough but 
for whatever reason, I just haven’t had a success with this set up.

Any guidance is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony
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