Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[drew Roberts]

Hey Ryan,

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Ryan Kingham  wrote:

> it sends the stream directly to the host provider and goes to the
> listeners which the reason why i dont want to drop the
> Winamp/Shoutcast is because I might want to add another station or
> swap out the automation computer just in case if my automation
> computer goes bad, because i might swap out the desktop soon and
> bottom line is that I'm not good with Linux programming at all, let
> alone install software and look up changes to things. If I get another
> computer, I'll be able to switch out the computer and go from
> there
>

Fine, I know there are reasons to do things in different ways. So I have
already answered this in the last email. Have your tried that solution yet?

Setup the icecast rlm on the rivendell machine and point it to the
shoutcast server on the windows machine and you should be good to go. (With
the proper config file so that it can update the metadata of the stream on
the shoutcast server.

Try something like this in /etc/rivendell/rlm/rlm_icecast2.conf for a start:


[Icecast1]

Username=admin
Password=shoutcastpassword
Hostname=192.168.001.002
Tcpport=8000
Mountpoint=/
FormatString=%a - %t - %l
MasterLog=Yes
Aux1Log=No
Aux2Log=No

if you haven't. If we can't get the icecast rlm to speak to the shoutcast
server, we can most likely set up a local icecast server on the rivendell
machine and let the shoutcast server pull a relay.

Let me know the results of your efforts.

drew


>
> On 3/8/15, drew Roberts  wrote:
> > So, where does shoutcast "send" the stream? Directly to listeners? Or is
> it
> > relayed by a stream host provider? How important is being in the
> shoutcast
> > directory to you?
> >
> > Unless your answers to some of those questions are super important to
> you,
> > if it was me, I would likely drop the winamp/shoutcast machine out of the
> > picture completely.
> >
> > Put liquidsoap (Fred recommends glasscoder iirc, but I haven't had the
> > chance to mess with it and get comfortable yet) and icecast directly on
> the
> > rivendell machine.
> >
> > Send audio out of the Rivendell machine to the board. Take audio into the
> > Riv machine from the board. (Likely multiple outs and ins if it can be
> done
> > with the hardware you have and depending on your needs.
> >
> > The audio that rdairplay plays goes out to the board, gets mixed there
> with
> > whatever else is going into the board. The mixed audio comes out of hte
> > board and goes back into the rivendell machine. The incoming audio goes
> to
> > liquidsoap which sends it to icecast (you might be able to run shoutcast
> on
> > linux if you must) and then out to a stream host provider (I have used
> and
> > been happy with Museter.) The server at the stream host will pull the
> > stream from the icecast server on the rivendell machine. Your listeners
> > tune in to your station at the stream host provided server.
> >
> > If you go with a provider like Museter, you can get an icecast or a
> > shoutcast server on their end even if you have an icecast server on your
> > end. That way, the world sees you as having a shoutcast server if that is
> > important to you so that you can be in the shoutcast directory while
> > icecast is living on your local box.
> >
> > -
> >
> > Let's say we are not going to drop the winamp / shoutcast machine out of
> > the mix.
> >
> > Configure the rivendell machine with the icecast rlm and point it to the
> > shoutcast server on the winamp / shoutcast machine. You are basically
> done.
> > You just need to make sure you are not sending metadata when the
> rdairplay
> > channel on the board is muted and other audio is going out but rdairplay
> is
> > not stopped.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Ryan Kingham 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm running Winamp/Shoutcast on 1 machine to receive the audio from my
> >> radioshack audio board and receive metadata coming from my rivendell
> >> machine. Two different types of data being sent out (Metadata and
> >> Audio Output from a board) going from my rivendell machine and going
> >> into my winamp/shoutcast computer...
> >> I'm not good with using icecast. I have tried that before and it
> >> hasn't worked with me so well. Would I be installing icecast onto my
> >> rivendell machine to send it to the localhost to retransmit the data?
> >>
> >
> > I do not suggest using icecast in this way.
> >
> > Just to clear something up for possible future replies. In anything I
> have
> > spoken of, winamp is not used at all. Is that correct?
> >
> >
> >
> >> Not trying to get you frustrated or anything...Just trying to clarify
> >>
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > drew
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 3/7/15, drew Roberts  wrote:
> >> > Ryan, you are still not giving enough detailed information.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ryan Kingham 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Because I'm using all of the Winamp/Shoutcast materials to broadcast
> >> >> out to Radionomy, that 

Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[drew Roberts]

So, where does shoutcast "send" the stream? Directly to listeners? Or is it
relayed by a stream host provider? How important is being in the shoutcast
directory to you?

Unless your answers to some of those questions are super important to you,
if it was me, I would likely drop the winamp/shoutcast machine out of the
picture completely.

Put liquidsoap (Fred recommends glasscoder iirc, but I haven't had the
chance to mess with it and get comfortable yet) and icecast directly on the
rivendell machine.

Send audio out of the Rivendell machine to the board. Take audio into the
Riv machine from the board. (Likely multiple outs and ins if it can be done
with the hardware you have and depending on your needs.

The audio that rdairplay plays goes out to the board, gets mixed there with
whatever else is going into the board. The mixed audio comes out of hte
board and goes back into the rivendell machine. The incoming audio goes to
liquidsoap which sends it to icecast (you might be able to run shoutcast on
linux if you must) and then out to a stream host provider (I have used and
been happy with Museter.) The server at the stream host will pull the
stream from the icecast server on the rivendell machine. Your listeners
tune in to your station at the stream host provided server.

If you go with a provider like Museter, you can get an icecast or a
shoutcast server on their end even if you have an icecast server on your
end. That way, the world sees you as having a shoutcast server if that is
important to you so that you can be in the shoutcast directory while
icecast is living on your local box.

-

Let's say we are not going to drop the winamp / shoutcast machine out of
the mix.

Configure the rivendell machine with the icecast rlm and point it to the
shoutcast server on the winamp / shoutcast machine. You are basically done.
You just need to make sure you are not sending metadata when the rdairplay
channel on the board is muted and other audio is going out but rdairplay is
not stopped.



On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Ryan Kingham  wrote:

> I'm running Winamp/Shoutcast on 1 machine to receive the audio from my
> radioshack audio board and receive metadata coming from my rivendell
> machine. Two different types of data being sent out (Metadata and
> Audio Output from a board) going from my rivendell machine and going
> into my winamp/shoutcast computer...
> I'm not good with using icecast. I have tried that before and it
> hasn't worked with me so well. Would I be installing icecast onto my
> rivendell machine to send it to the localhost to retransmit the data?
>

I do not suggest using icecast in this way.

Just to clear something up for possible future replies. In anything I have
spoken of, winamp is not used at all. Is that correct?



> Not trying to get you frustrated or anything...Just trying to clarify
>

all the best,

drew


>
> On 3/7/15, drew Roberts  wrote:
> > Ryan, you are still not giving enough detailed information.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ryan Kingham  wrote:
> >
> >> Because I'm using all of the Winamp/Shoutcast materials to broadcast
> >> out to Radionomy, that I want to stream out my metadata from rdairplay
> >> to my winamp/shoutcast machine and set up the audio the way i have to
> >> set it up
> >>
> >
> > What is running on the Winamp/Shoutcast machine?
> >
> > Winamp and shoutcast? Or just winamp and shoutcast is running somewhere
> > else?
> >
> > If the machine is running both winamp and shoutcast, you may be able to
> > have the icecast rlm I mentioned update the shoutcast server for you.
> >
> > Why would you be running winamp in this situation at all?
> >
> > It seems like you could drop that machine from the setup completely and
> use
> > the rivendell machine to do the whole job. Or at least just use shoutcast
> > only on that machine.
> >
> >
> >> It's like asking (mathematical wise) How do I send Metadata (X) to
> >> send through as an IP (Y) for winamp to receive (Z) so that I can
> >> retransmit the metadata (X) to Radionomy (R)
> >> I have tried it on my buddys stream, on a local network and it worked,
> >> but his stream was set up and running already... if you know what im
> >> saying
> >>
> >> On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham  wrote:
> >> > The Rivendell application would be sending the metadata to the windows
> >> > xp/streaming machine
> >> >
> >> > On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham  wrote:
> >> >> On 3/6/15, drew Roberts  wrote:
> >> >>> Hey Ryan
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ryan Kingham 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  Here is an planned map (see picture attached)
> >>  run metadata as a .pls form (or something similar) and audio
> through
> >>  it as through soundcard
> >> 
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It is still unclear to me exactly what you are planning. I am going
> >> make
> >> >>> some assumptions and give answers based on them. I will also ask
> some
> >> >>> questions in case the assumptions are off base, you can perhaps
> clear
> >>

Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[drew Roberts]

Ryan, you are still not giving enough detailed information.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ryan Kingham  wrote:

> Because I'm using all of the Winamp/Shoutcast materials to broadcast
> out to Radionomy, that I want to stream out my metadata from rdairplay
> to my winamp/shoutcast machine and set up the audio the way i have to
> set it up
>

What is running on the Winamp/Shoutcast machine?

Winamp and shoutcast? Or just winamp and shoutcast is running somewhere
else?

If the machine is running both winamp and shoutcast, you may be able to
have the icecast rlm I mentioned update the shoutcast server for you.

Why would you be running winamp in this situation at all?

It seems like you could drop that machine from the setup completely and use
the rivendell machine to do the whole job. Or at least just use shoutcast
only on that machine.


> It's like asking (mathematical wise) How do I send Metadata (X) to
> send through as an IP (Y) for winamp to receive (Z) so that I can
> retransmit the metadata (X) to Radionomy (R)
> I have tried it on my buddys stream, on a local network and it worked,
> but his stream was set up and running already... if you know what im
> saying
>
> On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham  wrote:
> > The Rivendell application would be sending the metadata to the windows
> > xp/streaming machine
> >
> > On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham  wrote:
> >> On 3/6/15, drew Roberts  wrote:
> >>> Hey Ryan
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ryan Kingham 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Here is an planned map (see picture attached)
>  run metadata as a .pls form (or something similar) and audio through
>  it as through soundcard
> 
> >>>
> >>> It is still unclear to me exactly what you are planning. I am going
> make
> >>> some assumptions and give answers based on them. I will also ask some
> >>> questions in case the assumptions are off base, you can perhaps clear
> >>> up.
> >>>
> >>> If this was me.
> >>>
> >>> Rivendell PC running rdairplay.
> >>>
> >>> I would  be running icecast on the streaming pc. I would be running
> >>> liquidsoap or darkice on the streaming pc. (These days, liquidsoap.)
> >>>
> >>> The liquidsoap on the streaming pc would take the audio from the line
> in
> >>> of
> >>> the streaming pc and send it to the icecast server on the same machine.
> >>>
> >>> I would configure the icecast rlm on the rivendell machine to send the
> >>> metadata to the icecast server on the streaming pc.
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure what you mean by iPod Stream. I am going to assume you
> >>> mean
> >>> audio played from files stored on an iPod.
> >>>
> >>> There would be no metadata going out from this and no metadata going
> out
> >>> when rivednell was no sending audio and the ipod was. (There may be
> some
> >>> tricks to play, but that is a first cut.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>> all the best,
> >>>
> >>> drew
> >>>
> 
>  On 3/5/15, drew Roberts  wrote:
>  > Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you explain
>  > where
>  > and perhaps I can help.
>  >
>  > all the best,
>  >
>  > drew
>  >
>  > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Ryan Kingham 
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  >> How do i stream my metadata to software like winamp?
>  >> I am starting a new stream up and I am going to use Radionomy to
>  >> broadcast to but it needs metadata information as well
>  >> (And I'm not going to use RadioDJ if you guys are probably
>  >> insisting)
>  >> because I have my second computer ready to stream my stuff to
>  >> Radionomy
>  >> Thank's!!!
>  >>
>  >
>  > Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you explain
>  > where
>  > and perhaps I can help.
>  >
>  > all the best,
>  >
>  > drew
>  >
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>  >
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>
> >
>



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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[drew Roberts]

Hey Ryan

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ryan Kingham  wrote:

> Here is an planned map (see picture attached)
> run metadata as a .pls form (or something similar) and audio through
> it as through soundcard
>

It is still unclear to me exactly what you are planning. I am going make
some assumptions and give answers based on them. I will also ask some
questions in case the assumptions are off base, you can perhaps clear up.

If this was me.

Rivendell PC running rdairplay.

I would  be running icecast on the streaming pc. I would be running
liquidsoap or darkice on the streaming pc. (These days, liquidsoap.)

The liquidsoap on the streaming pc would take the audio from the line in of
the streaming pc and send it to the icecast server on the same machine.

I would configure the icecast rlm on the rivendell machine to send the
metadata to the icecast server on the streaming pc.

I am not sure what you mean by iPod Stream. I am going to assume you mean
audio played from files stored on an iPod.

There would be no metadata going out from this and no metadata going out
when rivednell was no sending audio and the ipod was. (There may be some
tricks to play, but that is a first cut.

I hope this helps.

all the best,

drew

>
> On 3/5/15, drew Roberts  wrote:
> > Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you explain where
> > and perhaps I can help.
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > drew
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Ryan Kingham  wrote:
> >
> >> How do i stream my metadata to software like winamp?
> >> I am starting a new stream up and I am going to use Radionomy to
> >> broadcast to but it needs metadata information as well
> >> (And I'm not going to use RadioDJ if you guys are probably insisting)
> >> because I have my second computer ready to stream my stuff to
> >> Radionomy
> >> Thank's!!!
> >>
> >
> > Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you explain where
> > and perhaps I can help.
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > drew
> >
> > --
> > http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/
> >
>



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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Cowboy]

On Thursday 05 March 2015 02:49:22 pm Ryan Kingham wrote:
> and I am going to use Radionomy to
> broadcast to but it needs metadata information as well

 It's not an English language site, so

 What is their streaming server ?
 Shoutcast ? Icecast ? Something else ?

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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Curt Steinhauser]

Rob,
 
We did try 2.8.2 on a test box with the database from that version and it 
worked as it should. After that was verified, we upgraded it to 2.9.0 and the 
problem appeared once again.  Just for fun, we also tested 2.8.2 just with the 
out of the box test tone and were able to edit with allow duplicate carts 
globally disabled.  We then upgraded this bix and again, the problem appeared.  
At this point, we have at least ruled out a database anomaly that we somehow 
may have caused.
 
-Curt
 
> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:11:24 -0400
> From: 41001...@interpring.com
> To: cwsteinhau...@outlook.com
> CC: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org
> Subject: Re: [RDD] (no subject)
> 
> 
> I've been seeing a lot of complaints here about 2.9.0. Did you back up 
> your old database before upgrading?
> 
> If so, I have clients running 2.5.2 an 2.8.2 without a complaint. You may 
> want to try one of those versions.
> 
> 
> Rob
> 
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2014, Curt Steinhauser wrote:
> 
> > I am sorry, I meant to say version 2.9.0, not 2.0.0 :
> >  
> > We have been using successfully Rivendell for several years but have run
> > into a problem after a recent upgrade to version 2.9.0.  In our
> > installation, we do not allow duplicate cart titles and have that option
> > disabled in the global settings.  After the upgrade, if a cart is edited, it
> > cannot be saved; a pop-up appears saying the cart title must be unique (this
> > worked properly prior to v2.9.0).  If we allow duplicate cart titles in the
> > global settings, the edited cart can again be saved normally.
> >  
> > Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any suggestions?
> >  
> > Thank you...
> > 
> >
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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Rob Landry]

I've been seeing a lot of complaints here about 2.9.0. Did you back up 
your old database before upgrading?


If so, I have clients running 2.5.2 an 2.8.2 without a complaint. You may 
want to try one of those versions.



Rob

On Mon, 30 Jun 2014, Curt Steinhauser wrote:


I am sorry, I meant to say version 2.9.0, not 2.0.0 :
 
We have been using successfully Rivendell for several years but have run
into a problem after a recent upgrade to version 2.9.0.  In our
installation, we do not allow duplicate cart titles and have that option
disabled in the global settings.  After the upgrade, if a cart is edited, it
cannot be saved; a pop-up appears saying the cart title must be unique (this
worked properly prior to v2.9.0).  If we allow duplicate cart titles in the
global settings, the edited cart can again be saved normally.
 
Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any suggestions?
 
Thank you...

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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[John Edstrom]

Robert Orr had the answer in a direct reply: 

10 refers to no speedup ie 1.0 x normal speed 

  JE


On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 11:08 -0500, Alan Smith wrote:
> That is what I thought.  I am thinking that speed 10 actually is
> 100.000%, but its just a wild guess.
> 
> -Alan
> 
> On 5/9/2014 11:06 AM, Mike Carroll wrote:
> 
> > Length is the length in milliseconds.  59*60 + 16.7 = 3556.7 * 1000
> > = 3556700. 
> > 
> > 
> > Dunno about speed. Maybe a speedup/slowdown value for playback?
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:41 AM, John Edstrom
> >  wrote:
> > A quick question on the RD entries in syslog.
> > 
> > There's a cart with one cut, as a specific example where
> > the .wav file
> > is about 649M (59:16.7 duration) and the system sample rate
> > is 48k.
> > 
> > The corresponding entry in syslog when that cut loads &
> > unloads is
> > mostly self explanatory except I'm not clear on Length:
> > 3556728, and
> > speed: 10.  I can't see an obvious relation between
> > those numbers
> > and what I know about the cut.
> > 
> > The system is working fine. I'm just curious.
> > 
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> > 
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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Alan Smith]

That is what I thought.  I am thinking that speed 10 actually is 
100.000%, but its just a wild guess.


-Alan

On 5/9/2014 11:06 AM, Mike Carroll wrote:
Length is the length in milliseconds.  59*60 + 16.7 = 3556.7 * 1000 = 
3556700.


Dunno about speed. Maybe a speedup/slowdown value for playback?


On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:41 AM, John Edstrom > wrote:


A quick question on the RD entries in syslog.

There's a cart with one cut, as a specific example where the .wav file
is about 649M (59:16.7 duration) and the system sample rate is 48k.

The corresponding entry in syslog when that cut loads & unloads is
mostly self explanatory except I'm not clear on Length: 3556728, and
speed: 10.  I can't see an obvious relation between those numbers
and what I know about the cut.

The system is working fine. I'm just curious.

  JE


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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Mike Carroll]

Length is the length in milliseconds.  59*60 + 16.7 = 3556.7 * 1000 =
3556700.

Dunno about speed. Maybe a speedup/slowdown value for playback?


On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:41 AM, John Edstrom wrote:

> A quick question on the RD entries in syslog.
>
> There's a cart with one cut, as a specific example where the .wav file
> is about 649M (59:16.7 duration) and the system sample rate is 48k.
>
> The corresponding entry in syslog when that cut loads & unloads is
> mostly self explanatory except I'm not clear on Length: 3556728, and
> speed: 10.  I can't see an obvious relation between those numbers
> and what I know about the cut.
>
> The system is working fine. I'm just curious.
>
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>
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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Geoff Barkman]

Hi Rene
When I set up RRAbuntu with Frederick Henderson and Alban, I put a
text editor command line file manager in called Midnight Commander
(type mc from a command prompt). I use mc for editing my serverlist
file listed below. I'm looking at moving to a new RRAbuntu with
Rivendell version 2.1.4 in it but currently battling with the newer
Ubuntu desktops (I don't like Unity). I looking at the LXDE desktop on
Lubuntu. But may have to start with Ubuntu and remove Gnome and add
LXDE. The Lubuntu 12.04 isn't a LTS (Long term support version),
whereas Ubuntu 12.04 is a LTS version.

When you install podget...
sudo apt-get install podget
it create a hidden folder called .podget The dot at the front means
its a hidden file.
By default in the .podget folder there is a file called serverlist.
You can comment out all the server names in there or else it will
download all the programs listed in there. (Just put a # at the start
of the lines)
And add a line

http://www.democracynow.org/podcast-stations.xml democracy

When you issue the command from a command line.
/usr/bin/podget -s
It will download all of the podcasts list on the xml and save them in
the "democracy" folder in the "POD" directory.
The serverlist file for podget can have any URL for rss feeds listed in there.
http://URL_Of_Server.rss Directory_To_Save_Downloads_In

Here is my script that runs with crontab to invoke the podget
command... I run it 2 or 3 times a day till the new show downloads.

#!/bin/bash

/usr/bin/podget -s

mv /home/USERNAME/POD/democracy/*.mp3 /home/USERNAME/dropboxes/democracynow/

Many thanks
Geoff Barkman.



On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:38 AM, ICR Programs  wrote:
> Thanks for the reply, Geoff!
>
> We are using the RRAbuntu version that has Ubuntu 10.0.4 LTS and Rivendell
> 1.7.1
>
> I will look into Podget, as that would be wonderful to automate downloads as
> well as trying to figure out how to make drop boxes work for us.
>
> I'm not super knowledgeable about *nix things but am comfortable using the
> command line.  We've got a few friends who are much more knowledgeable about
> this stuff and I'm sure they can help too.  So, if you have any tips on
> setting things up, scripts or such that you're willing to share, that would
> be wonderful!
>
> Thanks so very much,
> Rene
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Geoff Barkman 
> wrote:
>>
>> Sometimes if you use mailing lists on gmail (it could be the same on
>> other email services) your messages don't show up till someone
>> replies. But if the list rejects you you'll soon know about it.
>> What version of RRAbuntu are you using?
>> Rivendell has a cool feature called drop boxes where you can set up a
>> directory in your system that rivendell monitors... if it detects a
>> new file it will import the audio automatically into a relevant cart.
>> I use another Ubuntu program called "podget" it downloads podcasts eg
>> democracy now.
>> I get podget to activate several times a day (using crontab)...
>> download new audio and then copy into a dropbox which Rivendell
>> imports from the Democracy Now dropbox.
>> Sounds like that is what you want? How familiar are you with
>> configuring linux things?
>> Many thanks
>> Geoff Barkman
>>
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Good day everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I just joined the list and wanted to say hello and ask my first
>> >> questions.
>> >>
>> >> We are a community radio station that just is getting started.  We are
>> >> using Rivendell as part of RAAbuntu to help us automate some of the
>> >> necessary tasks for running a volunteer-run station.   Right now, we've
>> >> figured out a fair amount of what we need to do in Rivendell, but there
>> >> are
>> >> a few operations that we have yet to get to work correctly for us.
>> >>
>> >> The two that have been giving me fits lately are these two:
>> >>
>> >> 1) get RSS available content with Rivendell?
>> >>
>> >> 2) connect to a Pacifca  ku audioport stream with Rivendell.  (I've
>> >> been
>> >> trying with RDcatch, is that even the right tool for this?)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Here's the link address I'm trying
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> and if you go to the RSS feed link:
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed - Pacifica KuBand
>> >> 
>> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> >> 
>> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed
>> >> en-us
>> >> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:59:49 GMT
>> >> 5
>> >> 
>> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed, Wed, May 30, 2012
>> >> 
>> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> >> 
>> >> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:00:10 GMT
>> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed
>> >> News
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3" length="57091568" type="audio/mpeg"/>
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks very much for your help folks!
>> >>
>> >> Rene
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> >
>> __

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[ICR Programs]

Thanks for the reply, Geoff!

We are using the RRAbuntu version that has Ubuntu 10.0.4 LTS and Rivendell
1.7.1

I will look into Podget, as that would be wonderful to automate downloads
as well as trying to figure out how to make drop boxes work for us.

I'm not super knowledgeable about *nix things but am comfortable using the
command line.  We've got a few friends who are much more knowledgeable
about this stuff and I'm sure they can help too.  So, if you have any tips
on setting things up, scripts or such that you're willing to share, that
would be wonderful!

Thanks so very much,
Rene

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Geoff Barkman wrote:

> Sometimes if you use mailing lists on gmail (it could be the same on
> other email services) your messages don't show up till someone
> replies. But if the list rejects you you'll soon know about it.
> What version of RRAbuntu are you using?
> Rivendell has a cool feature called drop boxes where you can set up a
> directory in your system that rivendell monitors... if it detects a
> new file it will import the audio automatically into a relevant cart.
> I use another Ubuntu program called "podget" it downloads podcasts eg
> democracy now.
> I get podget to activate several times a day (using crontab)...
> download new audio and then copy into a dropbox which Rivendell
> imports from the Democracy Now dropbox.
> Sounds like that is what you want? How familiar are you with
> configuring linux things?
> Many thanks
> Geoff Barkman
>
>
>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good day everyone,
> >>
> >> I just joined the list and wanted to say hello and ask my first
> questions.
> >>
> >> We are a community radio station that just is getting started.  We are
> >> using Rivendell as part of RAAbuntu to help us automate some of the
> >> necessary tasks for running a volunteer-run station.   Right now, we've
> >> figured out a fair amount of what we need to do in Rivendell, but there
> are
> >> a few operations that we have yet to get to work correctly for us.
> >>
> >> The two that have been giving me fits lately are these two:
> >>
> >> 1) get RSS available content with Rivendell?
> >>
> >> 2) connect to a Pacifca  ku audioport stream with Rivendell.  (I've been
> >> trying with RDcatch, is that even the right tool for this?)
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's the link address I'm trying
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> and if you go to the RSS feed link:
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed - Pacifica KuBand
> >> 
> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> >> 
> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed
> >> en-us
> >> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:59:49 GMT
> >> 5
> >> 
> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed, Wed, May 30, 2012
> >> 
> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> >> 
> >> 
> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> >> 
> >> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:00:10 GMT
> >> Democracy Now! Second Feed
> >> News
> >>
> >> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> " length="57091568" type="audio/mpeg"/>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks very much for your help folks!
> >>
> >> Rene
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> >
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[Geoff Barkman]

Sometimes if you use mailing lists on gmail (it could be the same on
other email services) your messages don't show up till someone
replies. But if the list rejects you you'll soon know about it.
What version of RRAbuntu are you using?
Rivendell has a cool feature called drop boxes where you can set up a
directory in your system that rivendell monitors... if it detects a
new file it will import the audio automatically into a relevant cart.
I use another Ubuntu program called "podget" it downloads podcasts eg
democracy now.
I get podget to activate several times a day (using crontab)...
download new audio and then copy into a dropbox which Rivendell
imports from the Democracy Now dropbox.
Sounds like that is what you want? How familiar are you with
configuring linux things?
Many thanks
Geoff Barkman


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:04 AM, drew Roberts  wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, ICR Programs 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> My apologies for resending this, but I didn't see it come in despite
>> sending it out a day or two ago so I thought I'd try again 
>
>
> It came through both times.
>
> drew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good day everyone,
>>
>> I just joined the list and wanted to say hello and ask my first questions.
>>
>> We are a community radio station that just is getting started.  We are
>> using Rivendell as part of RAAbuntu to help us automate some of the
>> necessary tasks for running a volunteer-run station.   Right now, we've
>> figured out a fair amount of what we need to do in Rivendell, but there are
>> a few operations that we have yet to get to work correctly for us.
>>
>> The two that have been giving me fits lately are these two:
>>
>> 1) get RSS available content with Rivendell?
>>
>> 2) connect to a Pacifca  ku audioport stream with Rivendell.  (I've been
>> trying with RDcatch, is that even the right tool for this?)
>>
>>
>> Here's the link address I'm trying
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> and if you go to the RSS feed link:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed - Pacifica KuBand
>> 
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> 
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed
>> en-us
>> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:59:49 GMT
>> 5
>> 
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed, Wed, May 30, 2012
>> 
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> 
>> 
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> 
>> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:00:10 GMT
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed
>> News
>>
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3" length="57091568" type="audio/mpeg"/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Thanks very much for your help folks!
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ~~
>>                           "Democracy is not a spectator sport"
>>
>>                     Ithaca Community Radio -- 88.1 FM in Ithaca
>>                                 WRFI 91.9 FM in Watkins Glen
>>                                      WINO 89.9 FM in Odessa
>>
>> News, Culture & Information from our Neighborhoods and the World
>>
>> Phone: 607.319.5445
>> Email:  progr...@ithacaradio.org
>> Web:    http://ithacaradio.org/
>>
>>
>> Mailing address:
>> The Clinton House
>> 103 West Seneca St.
>> Suite 305
>> Ithaca, N.Y, 14850
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[ICR Programs]

thanks Drew!



On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:04 PM, drew Roberts  wrote:

> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, ICR Programs wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> My apologies for resending this, but I didn't see it come in despite
>> sending it out a day or two ago so I thought I'd try again 
>>
>
> It came through both times.
>
> drew
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good day everyone,
>>
>> I just joined the list and wanted to say hello and ask my first questions.
>>
>> We are a community radio station that just is getting started.  We are
>> using Rivendell as part of RAAbuntu to help us automate some of the
>> necessary tasks for running a volunteer-run station.   Right now, we've
>> figured out a fair amount of what we need to do in Rivendell, but there are
>> a few operations that we have yet to get to work correctly for us.
>>
>> The two that have been giving me fits lately are these two:
>>
>> 1) get RSS available content with Rivendell?
>>
>> 2) connect to a Pacifca  ku audioport stream with Rivendell.  (I've been
>> trying with RDcatch, is that even the right tool for this?)
>>
>>
>> Here's the link address I'm trying
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> and if you go to the RSS feed link:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed - Pacifica KuBand
>> 
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> 
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed
>> en-us
>> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:59:49 GMT
>> 5
>> 
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed, Wed, May 30, 2012
>> 
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> 
>> 
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> 
>> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:00:10 GMT
>> Democracy Now! Second Feed
>> News
>> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
>> " length="57091568" type="audio/mpeg"/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Thanks very much for your help folks!
>>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ~~
>>   "Democracy is not a spectator sport"
>>
>> Ithaca Community Radio -- 88.1 FM in Ithaca
>> WRFI 91.9 FM in Watkins Glen
>>  WINO 89.9 FM in Odessa
>>
>> News, Culture & Information from our Neighborhoods and the World
>>
>> *Phone*: 607.319.5445
>> *Email*:  progr...@ithacaradio.org
>> *Web*:http://ithacaradio.org/
>>
>>
>> Mailing address:
>> The Clinton House
>> 103 West Seneca St.
>> Suite 305
>> Ithaca, N.Y, 14850
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[drew Roberts]

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, ICR Programs wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
> My apologies for resending this, but I didn't see it come in despite
> sending it out a day or two ago so I thought I'd try again 
>

It came through both times.

drew

>
>
>
> Good day everyone,
>
> I just joined the list and wanted to say hello and ask my first questions.
>
> We are a community radio station that just is getting started.  We are
> using Rivendell as part of RAAbuntu to help us automate some of the
> necessary tasks for running a volunteer-run station.   Right now, we've
> figured out a fair amount of what we need to do in Rivendell, but there are
> a few operations that we have yet to get to work correctly for us.
>
> The two that have been giving me fits lately are these two:
>
> 1) get RSS available content with Rivendell?
>
> 2) connect to a Pacifca  ku audioport stream with Rivendell.  (I've been
> trying with RDcatch, is that even the right tool for this?)
>
>
> Here's the link address I'm trying
>
> 
>
>
>
> and if you go to the RSS feed link:
>
> 
> 
> Democracy Now! Second Feed - Pacifica KuBand
> 
> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> 
> Democracy Now! Second Feed
> en-us
> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:59:49 GMT
> 5
> 
> Democracy Now! Second Feed, Wed, May 30, 2012
> 
> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> 
> 
> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> 
> Wed, 30 May 2012 13:00:10 GMT
> Democracy Now! Second Feed
> News
> http://ku.audioport.org/mp3/kuleft_120530_080010dn2.mp3
> " length="57091568" type="audio/mpeg"/>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Thanks very much for your help folks!
>
> Rene
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> ~~
>   "Democracy is not a spectator sport"
>
> Ithaca Community Radio -- 88.1 FM in Ithaca
> WRFI 91.9 FM in Watkins Glen
>  WINO 89.9 FM in Odessa
>
> News, Culture & Information from our Neighborhoods and the World
>
> *Phone*: 607.319.5445
> *Email*:  progr...@ithacaradio.org
> *Web*:http://ithacaradio.org/
>
>
> Mailing address:
> The Clinton House
> 103 West Seneca St.
> Suite 305
> Ithaca, N.Y, 14850
>
>
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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Wayne Merricks]

Along with a similar suggestion, make sure openssh-server is installed as I 
don't think it is by default (I assume openssh as telnet is not widely used 
anymore except for ancient control systems and I guess Cisco/Networking gear).


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Subject: [RDD] (no subject)
 
Hello all

We have a new running system!  One last problem, now and next does not send
packets to the RDS encoder. I have setup in rdairplay and enabled in the
group.
I believe it is a network problem because I cannot telent from the RD
computer. "unable to connect to remote host"

I remember there was a post with a similar problem, but I cannot find it.

Thanks Rich


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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[Geoff Barkman]

Is the telnet service running on the remote computer that you are
trying to connect from with your Rivendell computer?
You could try pinging the remote machine. But if it is say a windows
machine it might have the windoze firewall enabled which will deny all
pings.
Cheers
Geoff Barkman

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Rich  wrote:
> Hello all
>
> We have a new running system!  One last problem, now and next does not send
> packets to the RDS encoder. I have setup in rdairplay and enabled in the
> group.
> I believe it is a network problem because I cannot telent from the RD
> computer. "unable to connect to remote host"
>
> I remember there was a post with a similar problem, but I cannot find it.
>
> Thanks Rich
>
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Re: [RDD] (no subject)

[ltyndale]

Hi,

Thanks to everyone who responded.  The loop with a progress bar in
Zenity is exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks again!

Lorne Tyndale




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