Hey Ryan, On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Ryan Kingham <k1n9h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it sends the stream directly to the host provider and goes to the > listeners which the reason why i dont want to drop the > Winamp/Shoutcast is because I might want to add another station or > swap out the automation computer just in case if my automation > computer goes bad, because i might swap out the desktop soon and > bottom line is that I'm not good with Linux programming at all, let > alone install software and look up changes to things. If I get another > computer, I'll be able to switch out the computer and go from > there.... > Fine, I know there are reasons to do things in different ways. So I have already answered this in the last email. Have your tried that solution yet? Setup the icecast rlm on the rivendell machine and point it to the shoutcast server on the windows machine and you should be good to go. (With the proper config file so that it can update the metadata of the stream on the shoutcast server. Try something like this in /etc/rivendell/rlm/rlm_icecast2.conf for a start: [Icecast1] Username=admin Password=shoutcastpassword Hostname=192.168.001.002 Tcpport=8000 Mountpoint=/ FormatString=%a - %t - %l MasterLog=Yes Aux1Log=No Aux2Log=No if you haven't. If we can't get the icecast rlm to speak to the shoutcast server, we can most likely set up a local icecast server on the rivendell machine and let the shoutcast server pull a relay. Let me know the results of your efforts. drew > > On 3/8/15, drew Roberts <zotz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So, where does shoutcast "send" the stream? Directly to listeners? Or is > it > > relayed by a stream host provider? How important is being in the > shoutcast > > directory to you? > > > > Unless your answers to some of those questions are super important to > you, > > if it was me, I would likely drop the winamp/shoutcast machine out of the > > picture completely. > > > > Put liquidsoap (Fred recommends glasscoder iirc, but I haven't had the > > chance to mess with it and get comfortable yet) and icecast directly on > the > > rivendell machine. > > > > Send audio out of the Rivendell machine to the board. Take audio into the > > Riv machine from the board. (Likely multiple outs and ins if it can be > done > > with the hardware you have and depending on your needs. > > > > The audio that rdairplay plays goes out to the board, gets mixed there > with > > whatever else is going into the board. The mixed audio comes out of hte > > board and goes back into the rivendell machine. The incoming audio goes > to > > liquidsoap which sends it to icecast (you might be able to run shoutcast > on > > linux if you must) and then out to a stream host provider (I have used > and > > been happy with Museter.) The server at the stream host will pull the > > stream from the icecast server on the rivendell machine. Your listeners > > tune in to your station at the stream host provided server. > > > > If you go with a provider like Museter, you can get an icecast or a > > shoutcast server on their end even if you have an icecast server on your > > end. That way, the world sees you as having a shoutcast server if that is > > important to you so that you can be in the shoutcast directory while > > icecast is living on your local box. > > > > ----- > > > > Let's say we are not going to drop the winamp / shoutcast machine out of > > the mix. > > > > Configure the rivendell machine with the icecast rlm and point it to the > > shoutcast server on the winamp / shoutcast machine. You are basically > done. > > You just need to make sure you are not sending metadata when the > rdairplay > > channel on the board is muted and other audio is going out but rdairplay > is > > not stopped. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Ryan Kingham <k1n9h...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> I'm running Winamp/Shoutcast on 1 machine to receive the audio from my > >> radioshack audio board and receive metadata coming from my rivendell > >> machine. Two different types of data being sent out (Metadata and > >> Audio Output from a board) going from my rivendell machine and going > >> into my winamp/shoutcast computer... > >> I'm not good with using icecast. I have tried that before and it > >> hasn't worked with me so well. Would I be installing icecast onto my > >> rivendell machine to send it to the localhost to retransmit the data? > >> > > > > I do not suggest using icecast in this way. > > > > Just to clear something up for possible future replies. In anything I > have > > spoken of, winamp is not used at all. Is that correct? > > > > > > > >> Not trying to get you frustrated or anything...Just trying to clarify > >> > > > > all the best, > > > > drew > > > > > >> > >> On 3/7/15, drew Roberts <zotz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Ryan, you are still not giving enough detailed information. > >> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Ryan Kingham <k1n9h...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Because I'm using all of the Winamp/Shoutcast materials to broadcast > >> >> out to Radionomy, that I want to stream out my metadata from > rdairplay > >> >> to my winamp/shoutcast machine and set up the audio the way i have to > >> >> set it up > >> >> > >> > > >> > What is running on the Winamp/Shoutcast machine? > >> > > >> > Winamp and shoutcast? Or just winamp and shoutcast is running > somewhere > >> > else? > >> > > >> > If the machine is running both winamp and shoutcast, you may be able > to > >> > have the icecast rlm I mentioned update the shoutcast server for you. > >> > > >> > Why would you be running winamp in this situation at all? > >> > > >> > It seems like you could drop that machine from the setup completely > and > >> use > >> > the rivendell machine to do the whole job. Or at least just use > >> > shoutcast > >> > only on that machine. > >> > > >> > > >> >> It's like asking (mathematical wise) How do I send Metadata (X) to > >> >> send through as an IP (Y) for winamp to receive (Z) so that I can > >> >> retransmit the metadata (X) to Radionomy (R) > >> >> I have tried it on my buddys stream, on a local network and it > worked, > >> >> but his stream was set up and running already... if you know what im > >> >> saying > >> >> > >> >> On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham <k1n9h...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > The Rivendell application would be sending the metadata to the > >> >> > windows > >> >> > xp/streaming machine > >> >> > > >> >> > On 3/6/15, Ryan Kingham <k1n9h...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 3/6/15, drew Roberts <zotz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>> Hey Ryan > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ryan Kingham < > k1n9h...@gmail.com> > >> >> >>> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> Here is an planned map (see picture attached) > >> >> >>>> run metadata as a .pls form (or something similar) and audio > >> through > >> >> >>>> it as through soundcard > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> It is still unclear to me exactly what you are planning. I am > >> >> >>> going > >> >> make > >> >> >>> some assumptions and give answers based on them. I will also ask > >> some > >> >> >>> questions in case the assumptions are off base, you can perhaps > >> clear > >> >> >>> up. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> If this was me. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Rivendell PC running rdairplay. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I would be running icecast on the streaming pc. I would be > >> >> >>> running > >> >> >>> liquidsoap or darkice on the streaming pc. (These days, > >> >> >>> liquidsoap.) > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> The liquidsoap on the streaming pc would take the audio from the > >> line > >> >> in > >> >> >>> of > >> >> >>> the streaming pc and send it to the icecast server on the same > >> >> >>> machine. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I would configure the icecast rlm on the rivendell machine to > send > >> >> >>> the > >> >> >>> metadata to the icecast server on the streaming pc. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I am not sure what you mean by iPod Stream. I am going to assume > >> >> >>> you > >> >> >>> mean > >> >> >>> audio played from files stored on an iPod. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> There would be no metadata going out from this and no metadata > >> >> >>> going > >> >> out > >> >> >>> when rivednell was no sending audio and the ipod was. (There may > >> >> >>> be > >> >> some > >> >> >>> tricks to play, but that is a first cut. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> I hope this helps. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> all the best, > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> drew > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> On 3/5/15, drew Roberts <zotz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>>> > Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you > >> >> >>>> > explain > >> >> >>>> > where > >> >> >>>> > and perhaps I can help. > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > all the best, > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > drew > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Ryan Kingham > >> >> >>>> > <k1n9h...@gmail.com > >> > > >> >> >>>> > wrote: > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> >> How do i stream my metadata to software like winamp? > >> >> >>>> >> I am starting a new stream up and I am going to use Radionomy > >> >> >>>> >> to > >> >> >>>> >> broadcast to but it needs metadata information as well.... > >> >> >>>> >> (And I'm not going to use RadioDJ if you guys are probably > >> >> >>>> >> insisting) > >> >> >>>> >> because I have my second computer ready to stream my stuff to > >> >> >>>> >> Radionomy.... > >> >> >>>> >> Thank's!!! > >> >> >>>> >> > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > Is Rivendell anywhere in your planned chain? If so, can you > >> >> >>>> > explain > >> >> >>>> > where > >> >> >>>> > and perhaps I can help. > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > all the best, > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > drew > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > -- > >> >> >>>> > http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/ > >> >> >>>> > > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -- > >> >> >>> http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/ > >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/ > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/ > > > -- http://nakedghosts.blogspot.com/
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