Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
Hi, On Monday 27 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > hm, ok. but why "for some reason"? seems like a valid attempt to me, i > mean, what other size should it take? well, there is a sort of "preferred" size. X apps can (and do) request new windows at any specified size. The minimum size is just an additional hint for the window manager. Actually, the window manager is free to resize to pretty much whatever it likes to as per the X specification. However, by default it would probably use the preferred, not minimum size, if possible (it does, here). Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
hi thomas, Am Freitag, 24. Juni 2011, 15:47:15 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > I suspect is that something changed in kwin, which makes the existing bug > worse. My guess is that for some reason, your window manager tries to make > windows appear at the smallest allowable size. hm, ok. but why "for some reason"? seems like a valid attempt to me, i mean, what other size should it take? > Perhaps you can take a look at your system settings, see if you find > anything that may be relevant. sure, i'll try to look into it when i have some more time. good news in the meantime: > Ok, I have just committed a new variant of the workaround. Please test. that one fixed it :-) all appears as should be. viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
Hi, On Friday 24 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > ok, that was in 2007. they must have re-introduced this into newer QT > versions then. well, it may have been around all of the time. I mean the effect that this window can be resized to ridiculously small sizes may well have gone unnoted all the time. I suspect is that something changed in kwin, which makes the existing bug worse. My guess is that for some reason, your window manager tries to make windows appear at the smallest allowable size. For most windows that is a sensible size, but for this window, due to the above bug, it is not. Perhaps you can take a look at your system settings, see if you find anything that may be relevant. > > I have committed an experimental patch, which should set a hard minimum > > size limit to 50x50 pixels, in SVN. Could you test, whether than changes > > anything? > > indeed it does: the dialog now comes up and remains. but it's about the > size of a two-liner, so i must manually resize it verically to see all of > it. at least this is an advancement over it not appearing at all. Ok, I have just committed a new variant of the workaround. Please test. Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
hi thomas, am Donnerstag 23 Juni 2011 (20:37) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > I guess that may be fairly close to the root of the problem. I only did a > bit of googling, so far, and it shows this description of the problem > (without the more severe effect of nothing coming up at all, though): > http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/8766-Qt-layouting-QLabel-s-word-wrap-bug . ok, that was in 2007. they must have re-introduced this into newer QT versions then. > I have committed an experimental patch, which should set a hard minimum > size limit to 50x50 pixels, in SVN. Could you test, whether than changes > anything? indeed it does: the dialog now comes up and remains. but it's about the size of a two-liner, so i must manually resize it verically to see all of it. at least this is an advancement over it not appearing at all. viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at 40225 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
Hi, On Thursday 23 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > manually inserting a simple line break after the word "existing" in the XML > file also fixed it. so breaking text seems to be the issue. > > any ideas what would cause this? well, most certainly it's a Qt and / or KDE issue, then. I note the following strange behavior, here: a) I can resize the unmodified plugin to arbitrarily small sizes. b) If I shorten the warning label so that there is no line break, the window will correctly refuse to be resized below a sensible minimum. I guess that may be fairly close to the root of the problem. I only did a bit of googling, so far, and it shows this description of the problem (without the more severe effect of nothing coming up at all, though): http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/8766-Qt-layouting-QLabel-s-word-wrap-bug . I have committed an experimental patch, which should set a hard minimum size limit to 50x50 pixels, in SVN. Could you test, whether than changes anything? Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
hi, am Freitag 17 Juni 2011 (10:50) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > 2. Could you play with the plugin a bit (00saveload/import/load_data.xml)? [...] > 2a. Try removing the -section. didn't help. > 2b. Try moving everything into a , with the two warning-labels in > a second tab (of course, this does not make too much sense, but I think it > should keep the size fixed). ok, it's getting warmer here. after toying around a little i found that the first warning message causes the problem. as long as it fits in one row the dialog becomes available: o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/RKWard_load_R_data.png if i add just one more "x" at the end of the message, it closes as soon as it comes up. removing doesn't change anything. manually inserting a simple line break after the word "existing" in the XML file also fixed it. so breaking text seems to be the issue. any ideas what would cause this? > 2c. Try running the "Analysis->Qt script test1" plugin (from > under_development.pluginmap). This does some unusual UI-changes, too. works fine, exept when it appears it's so thin you can't read anything, like all in one row. viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at 40225 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
Hi, On Thursday 16 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > this also doesn't help. but it helped me noticing that for a glimpse of an > eye something does appear, but it's as if it's immediately being closed > again, like just before it's fully there. just a small grey box that > flashes up. well, ok, at least all that testing shows that it's a fairly robust effect. Perhaps you can try narrowing it down from two sides: 1. Could you try with a different window manager? Could you try downgrading kwin? Could you toy with System Settings->Workspace->Window Behavior settings a bit? 2. Could you play with the plugin a bit (00saveload/import/load_data.xml)? One rather unusual thing about it is that is shows/hides two different warning messages depending on whether the "Save to environment"-box is checked. This may result in the dialog being resized shortly after it is shown. Perhaps the problem is here. Thus: 2a. Try removing the -section. 2b. Try moving everything into a , with the two warning-labels in a second tab (of course, this does not make too much sense, but I think it should keep the size fixed). 2c. Try running the "Analysis->Qt script test1" plugin (from under_development.pluginmap). This does some unusual UI-changes, too. Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
hi,
am Donnerstag 16 Juni 2011 (16:08) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier:
> Which window manager are you using?
it's pretty much a default KDE 4.6 running kwin. except of the upgrade to
4.6.4 a few days ago (from the PPA repo) nothing really changed. but that
doesn't seem to be the issue either. to test that, i upgraded a laptop to KDE
4.6.4 as well, there the plugin still works; the only difference being i'm
running amd64 binaries on my desktop and i386 on the laptop.
i tried switching desktop effects on and off -- no effect.
> Anything uncommon about your setup (multiple displays or the like)?
nope.
> Could you try downgrading RKWard to whatever version synaptic
> offers, and check whether the problem is affected by this?
i downgraded to 0.5.4 (the official natty package -- quite ancient for
04/2011, i'd say). the plugin doesn't work there either! but i can't swear it
ever did, because i don't remember when i used it for the last time... usually
i open whole workspaces. nonetheless, this bothers me now, and i'm really
clueless.
> What happens, if you try to invoke the plugin from the R Console? I.e. try
> rk.call.plugin ("rkward::load_r_object")
> and perhaps also
> rk.call.plugin ("rkward::load_r_object", envir.active="1")
> does this show a window?
this also doesn't help. but it helped me noticing that for a glimpse of an eye
something does appear, but it's as if it's immediately being closed again,
like just before it's fully there. just a small grey box that flashes up.
[but if you really want to feel progress, downgrade to 0.5.4 for a minute and
come back. it's awesome what happened to the interface in between just these
two releases :-)]
viele grüße :: m.eik
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Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
Hi,
On Wednesday 15 June 2011, meik michalke wrote:
> ok, did that:
> o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/debug_0.5.6z+0.5.7.txt.tar.gz
well, unfortunately, that did not help much. The plugin appears to be started
alright, and starts doing its work. So apparently, the "only" problem is that
it does not become visible.
Perhaps a window manager issue of some sort, again? Which window manager are
you using? Anything uncommon about your setup (multiple displays or the like)?
Could you try downgrading RKWard to whatever version synaptic offers, and check
whether the problem is affected by this?
What happens, if you try to invoke the plugin from the R Console? I.e. try
rk.call.plugin ("rkward::load_r_object")
and perhaps also
rk.call.plugin ("rkward::load_r_object", envir.active="1")
does this show a window?
Regards
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Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
hi, am Dienstag 14 Juni 2011 (18:24) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > On Tuesday 14 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > > if i click it, absolutely nothing happens. i'm running KDE 4.6.4, chan > > that be responsible? > > You mean nothing happens when you click Submit? In that case, check the > "Command log" for diagnostics. Or no dialog comes up when you select > Import->Load R data from the menu? That would be quite mysterious, indeed. it's exactly that: literally nothing happens, no dialog window comes up. all other plugins still seem to work just fine, though. > Try changing Debug->Debug level to 5 in the settings, directly before > starting the pluign, and then lower it to 2, again. Then post the debug > output file. ok, did that: o http://reaktanz.de/stuff/R/debug_0.5.6z+0.5.7.txt.tar.gz > > in the debug messages, on that occasion it reads: > > > > > > Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing. > > > > Well, that probably needs fixing, somewhere, but I doubt it has anything to > do with the problem. you're right, the message appears also with other plugins that work. viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at 40225 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
On Tuesday 14 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > if i click it, absolutely nothing happens. i'm running KDE 4.6.4, chan that > be responsible? You mean nothing happens when you click Submit? In that case, check the "Command log" for diagnostics. Or no dialog comes up when you select Import->Load R data from the menu? That would be quite mysterious, indeed. Try changing Debug->Debug level to 5 in the settings, directly before starting the pluign, and then lower it to 2, again. Then post the debug output file. > in the debug messages, on that occasion it reads: > > > Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing. > Well, that probably needs fixing, somewhere, but I doubt it has anything to do with the problem. I also just fixed another small bug, but that should have caused a slightly faulty layout, at worst. Do all other plugins work? Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
am Dienstag 14 Juni 2011 (09:46) schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: > On Monday 13 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > > is it just me or is the import->load R data file function broken in the > > daily build? > > works for me, here (from SVN, but that should not make a difference). What > are the symptoms? if i click it, absolutely nothing happens. i'm running KDE 4.6.4, chan that be responsible? in the debug messages, on that occasion it reads: Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing. RKWard version: 0.5.6z+0.5.7+devel1 KDE version (runtime): 4.6.4 (4.6.4) KDE version (compile time): 4.6.2 (4.6.2) Local KDE directory: /home/m/.kde/ RKWard storage directory: /home/m/.rkward/ Debug message file(s) in use (these may contain relevant diagnostic output in case of trouble): /tmp/kde-m/rkwardLh2877.tmp /tmp/kde-m/rkward.rbackendMT2885.tmp R version (compile time): 2.12.1 (2010-12-16 r53855) R runtime session info: R version 2.13.0 (2011-04-13) Platform: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (64-bit) locale: [1] LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=C [3] LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=de_DE.UTF-8 [5] LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.UTF-8 [7] LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_NAME=de_DE.UTF-8 [9] LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.UTF-8LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.UTF-8 [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.UTF-8LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.UTF-8 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base other attached packages: [1] rkward_0.5.6 loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] tools_2.13.0 viele grüße :: m.eik -- dipl. psych. meik michalke institut f"ur experimentelle psychologie abt. f"ur diagnostik und differentielle psychologie heinrich-heine-universit"at 40225 d"usseldorf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
Re: [rkward-devel] load R data files broken?
Hi, On Monday 13 June 2011, meik michalke wrote: > is it just me or is the import->load R data file function broken in the > daily build? works for me, here (from SVN, but that should not make a difference). What are the symptoms? Regards Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ RKWard-devel mailing list RKWard-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rkward-devel
