They might hate everything except GNU GPL, but they do acknowledge when
other license meets their criteria (read, the four freedoms) for free
software. To prove I'm not making this up, you can check their own site and
see for yourself how while they discourage it's use because it is not
copyleft, acknowledge BSD licenses are free. Also, they have lawyers who
can interpret the licenses in legal terms, regardless of liking it.
2013/11/29 Александр
> FSF hates everithing exept GNU GPL
>
> 29.11.2013, 23:36, "Pierre Schweitzer" :
>
> The April couldn't give a precise answer. I've moved to the FSF and
> opened a ticket there.
>
> I will keep you informed.
>
> On 29/11/2013 20:31, Aleksey Bragin wrote:
>
> To give you my position:
> 1. Current FAT driver in ReactOS needs to die away. I am testing all
> my new code with the MS's FASTFAT driver.
> 2. Lawyers advice is needed whether we can distribute it.
>
> Regards,
> Aleksey Bragin
>
> On 29.11.2013 21:55, Hermès BÉLUSCA - MAÏTO wrote:
>
> Nice idea Pierre!
>
> About this license we're talking about: yes I understand as
> Aleksander: that
> you can only use fastfat or derived works from it, on an (authentic)
> Windows
> OS (just my 2 cents, I'm not a lawyer too).
>
> Hermès.
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org]
> De la
> part de Pierre Schweitzer
> Envoyé : vendredi 29 novembre 2013 18:24
> À : ros-dev@reactos.org
> Objet : Re: [ros-dev] [ros-diffs] [ekohl] 61145: [FASTFAT]
> FsdGetFsVolumeInformation: Return volume creation time.
>
> Hi all,
>
> Let's the experts do.
>
> I've contacted the April (French association which mission is to
> promote and
> defend FOSS). They can answer about licensing issues (they propose it
> through their contact form).
>
> I'll keep you informed with their answers, highlights, and so on.
>
> Regards,
>
> On 11/29/2013 06:05 PM, Alexander Andrejevic wrote:
>
> I suppose it depends on how you interpret it.
> To me, "...extend only to the software or derivative works that you
> create that run on a Microsoft Windows operating system product"
> sounds like the program must run on Windows exclusively. It's not "...
> that you create to run ...", but "... that you create that run ...".
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:55:08PM +0100, David Quintana (gigaherz)
> wrote:
>
> I do not agree on the "unless it's on Microsoft Windows" part. The
> license grants apply if it is "created to run directly" on windows,
> which I understand as "it can run anywhere else, also, just as long
> as it runs in windows without an intermediary".
>
> On 29 November 2013 17:51, Alexander Andrejevic
> wrote:
>
> Fastfat is located inside its own binary, so this is considered
> "mere aggregation", and that is not the problem. (See
>
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation).
>
> The problem is that you don't even have a license to use it or
> distribute it, unless it's on Microsoft Windows.
> Then again, I'm not a lawyer either and I could be wrong too. It
> would be great if someone who knows a lot about licenses explained
> this.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 05:35:21PM +0100, David Quintana (gigaherz)
>
> wrote:
>
> The exact words of the license, as seen at
> http://www.ohloh.net/licenses/mslpl (I couldn't find a better link
> for it), are:
>
> "4. (F) Platform Limitation- The licenses granted in sections 2(A)
> &
> 2(B) extend only to the software or derivative works that you
> create that run on a Microsoft Windows operating system product."
>
> Excluding that term, the rest of the license is mostly a
> differently-worded BSD license. If it only needs to be tested in
> windows to ensure that it works there, then there should be
> absolutely no problem including it in ReactOS, as long as the terms
> don't conflict with the other licenses' terms. And GPL with the
> ReactOS exception, as far as I can tell, allows it. I'm not a
> lawyer, though, so I could be wrong.
>
> On 29 November 2013 16:17, Alexander Andrejevic
> wrote:
>
> Hi Ged,
>
> Are you sure that we can use software released under the MS-LPL?
> It has a rather weird limitation in section 4, which says that
> you can
>
> only use it on a "Microsoft Windows operating system product".
>
> Since ReactOS is not Windows, that would mean we can't use it.
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 02:58:51PM -, Ged Murphy wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I know this has been discussed before, but should we not just bite
>
> the bullet and replace this driver with the Microsoft driver.
>
> The MS_LPL license allows it to be used in reactos, and it would
>
> certainly get rid of any unknowns and give us a reliable filesystem
> to work
> from.
>
> http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/windowshardware/fastfat-File-Syste
> m-Driver-135bdf34/view/Sourc
