Re: [Rosegarden-user] [LAU] Just got Android tablet for Christmas

2014-12-17 Thread david
On 12/17/2014 01:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:12:51 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM, david  wrote:
>>>
>>> Any ideas for good music composition, synthesis and/or recording
>>> apps for Android?
>>>
>>
>> bwahahahahah! Android is basically a non-starter for this app niche
>> at this point in time. The exceptions prove the rule.
>
> OTOH Jack is dropped for the iPad :(.
>
> "JACK does currently not work on iOS7!" -
> http://www.crudebyte.com/jack-ios/
>
> My iPad currently is on iOS 8.1.2 and there wasn't a jackd update ;).

Well, I don't think I need JACK for my mobile uses. More just noting 
down compositions, playing with sounds.

> On 12/17/2014 01:39 PM, Diego Simak wrote:>
>> 2014-12-17 16:58 GMT-02:00 david:
>>
>> Any ideas for good music composition, synthesis and/or recording
>> apps for Android?
>>
>> AUDIOID
>> really nice TB303, 808 and 909 emulation, lots of fun
>>
>> KOSM
>> audio composition app based on gravity and mass, once you get it is very
>> addictive
>>
>> MikroWave
>> from the same developer of Kosm, haven't tested it..

Thanks, Diego, I'll check them out.

> On 12/17/2014 01:36 PM, Erik Steffl wrote:
> On 12/17/2014 01:55 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
>>> On 12/17/2014 07:58 PM, david wrote:
 Any ideas for good music composition, synthesis and/or recording apps
 for Android?
>>>
>>> For recording I use TapeMachine but I'm about to buy Audio Evolution
>>> Mobile DAW so I can use my USB audio interface with my phone or tablet.
>>> Haven't used Android for other things than recording, basically because
>>> the apps are lacking. So I partly agree with Paul.
>>
>>Audio Evolution is probably best for recording, I played around with
>> it a bit, with USB input device (and special host USB cable which makes
>> it possible for tablet to behave as USB host) you get pretty low latency
>> (didn't measure it),
>>
>>plus the developer was very responsive,
>>
>>  erik

Erik - I wasn't necessarily thinking of recording using the tablet, but 
both TapeMachine and Audio Evolution sound interesting. What kind of USB 
cable did you have to get to have the tablet function as a USB host?

> On 12/17/2014 01:17 PM, Neil wrote:
>> I've played with Caustic a little, and I used to have a fun theremin app
>> on my phone that used the NFC proximity sensor.  I've looked at some
>> other Android software, but Caustic was the most capable title I came
>> across.  Capable as it is, I didn't like it enough to stick with it.  I
>> do all my music work on Linux PC.

I do mine on Linux PC, too, just wanted something mobile. The Tegra Note 
has decent speakers and great headphone output, so I like it.

I like Caustic. It seems to be well-designed for phones and tablets. 
Didn't know there was a desktop version! According to this site, Caustic 
for Windows works under WINE:

http://jeffhendricks.net/?p=291

I'll have to try that out.

For price comparison, a friend is a devotee of FL Studio (from its 
honest days when they called it "Fruity Loops"). FL Studio Mobile is 
$19.99. The Reactable Mobile app is $8.91, but Caustic seems to be a lot 
more versatile. So $8 for Caustic doesn't bother me.

So far, Ensemble Composer seems to be a decent basic composition tool. 
MuseScore for Android seems to only be able to display and play sheet 
music, not a composition tool. Apparently composing with it requires 
using the PC version.

Thanks for the apps mentioned, it sounds like there's a better selection 
of good audio apps on Android than good calendar apps ...

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Irritation rather than bug

2014-12-17 Thread david
On 12/17/2014 11:50 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On 12/17/2014 04:18 PM, Abrolag wrote:
>
>> Every time Rosegarden shuts down I get this little sequence.
>
> Been seeing some kind of jack error on Rosegarden exit for about 10
> years now.  I reckon we would have fixed it if anybody knew how, and all
> the actual audio developers are loonnng gone.
>
> Not much help, just honest.

Also not much help - but I don't get any such error. Of course, I start 
JACK manually and don't use JACK dbus. I thought I had RG set to not 
start JACK on startup, but it does seem to be doing that now. Still, no 
such errors.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Irritation rather than bug

2014-12-17 Thread Abrolag
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:29:19 -0500
Ted Felix  wrote:

> On 12/17/2014 04:18 PM, Abrolag wrote:
> > Every time Rosegarden shuts down I get this little sequence.
> > JackEngine::XRun: client = rosegarden was not finished, state = Triggered
> 
>I usually just turn JACK auto-start off in the preferences: Edit > 
> Preferences > Audio > General > Start JACK Automatically.  Then I start 
> JACK manually when I need it and I don't get those errors since it stays up.
> 
>Must be something about the way rg kills JACK.
> 
> Ted.

I don't start jack with Rosegarden. My DAW is set up to start jack with
Qjackctl as soon as the desktop appears, and it continues running after
Rosegarden closes.

Just double ckecked in case there was some contention between Rosegarden and
Qjackctl. I get the same thing whether Jack autostart is enabled in Rosegarden
or not :(

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Irritation rather than bug

2014-12-17 Thread Ted Felix
On 12/17/2014 04:18 PM, Abrolag wrote:
> Every time Rosegarden shuts down I get this little sequence.
> JackEngine::XRun: client = rosegarden was not finished, state = Triggered

   I usually just turn JACK auto-start off in the preferences: Edit > 
Preferences > Audio > General > Start JACK Automatically.  Then I start 
JACK manually when I need it and I don't get those errors since it stays up.

   Must be something about the way rg kills JACK.

Ted.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Irritation rather than bug

2014-12-17 Thread D. Michael McIntyre
On 12/17/2014 04:18 PM, Abrolag wrote:

> Every time Rosegarden shuts down I get this little sequence.

Been seeing some kind of jack error on Rosegarden exit for about 10 
years now.  I reckon we would have fixed it if anybody knew how, and all 
the actual audio developers are loonnng gone.

Not much help, just honest.
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[Rosegarden-user] Irritation rather than bug

2014-12-17 Thread Abrolag
Every time Rosegarden shuts down I get this little sequence.

##

JackEngine::XRun: client = rosegarden was not finished, state = Triggered
JackAudioDriver::ProcessGraphAsyncMaster: Process error
21:15:03.491 XRUN callback (6).
JackEngine::XRun: client = rosegarden was not finished, state = Triggered
JackAudioDriver::ProcessGraphAsyncMaster: Process error
21:15:03.500 JACK connection graph change.
21:15:03.500 ALSA connection graph change.
21:15:03.678 JACK connection change.
21:15:03.680 ALSA connection change.
21:15:05.481 XRUN callback (1 skipped).

##

I get the feeling that Rosegarden is getting things out of sequence, and
removing stuff before closing it's jack client (or maybe not waiting lone
enough for the close sequence to complete).

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