Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Cannam
On 17 May 2012 09:10, Gary G. happyr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 How do you attach anything to this Listserv?  Actually is it a Listserv or
 an NNTP server?

It's a mailing list, i.e. like a listserv though not actually running
listserv software.

http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/lists/

Gmane provides a web interface and NNTP interface for a number of
mailing lists, including ours -- we don't particularly support or
endorse them, but the interface can be useful for some.

If you don't like Gmane, subscribe to the list directly via email
instead. Subscription details can be found through the page above.


Chris

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD

2012-05-17 Thread jimmy

On 17 May 2012 09:10, Gary G. happyrat1@... wrote:
 How do you attach anything to this Listserv?  Actually is it a Listserv or
 an NNTP server?

If you use gmame to read and post to this mailing list, I don't see any obvious 
way to attach files through their simple web interface.

As Chris C. said, you can subscribe (using one of your email addresses).  It 
may be better to use a separate email address (a throw-away-able account) other 
than your personal email accounts for friends and family.

Several Rosegarden mailing lists are at:

   http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/lists/

this particular mailing list is the User list.  Once you subscribed to it 
with your email, any email addressed to

   rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net

is a post to the mailing list.  You can attach files to such emails if needed.

Jimmy



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-16 Thread Gary G .
Andy andy-nntp23@... writes:

 
 Gary G. wrote:
 
  It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
  developing such a script.
  
  A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
  problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
  simply vanished or lost interest.
 
 Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current
 rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/.
 
 Here are some instructions on how to use it:
 
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102
 
 If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 ,
 then the script should still work fine.
 
 Let us know how you get on with it.

The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs.
99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros.  I can
state categorically that there is no such script included with the
*buntu distros out there.

The command line syntax is listed within the comments of the script itself.

Anyway, neither here nor there, it seems to work ok with the program
patches and controllers but seems to have trouble interpreting the combi
patches on my Korg TR.  It's not a perfect solution but at least it's
a working one.  I had to do some minor tweaking in the Rosegarden RGD
editor but I did manage to at least get the program patches working.

BTW, the Cakewalk/Sonar INS file is based on the MIDI standard and hasn't
really changed in the past 20 years or so,

Regards,
Gary



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-16 Thread david
On 05/15/2012 09:31 PM, Gary G. wrote:
 Andyandy-nntp23@...  writes:


 Gary G. wrote:

 It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
 developing such a script.

 A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
 problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
 simply vanished or lost interest.

 Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current
 rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/.

 Here are some instructions on how to use it:

 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102

 If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 ,
 then the script should still work fine.

 Let us know how you get on with it.

 The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs.
 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros.  I can
 state categorically that there is no such script included with the
 *buntu distros out there.

I use 11.11.42 installed from Debian Sid repository, and there's no such 
script on my system, either. Sounds like the package maintainer isn't 
including them, or maybe you need to have the -src package installed, too?

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-16 Thread Andy
david wrote:
 On 05/15/2012 09:31 PM, Gary G. wrote:
 The thing is, that most of us don't install Rosegarden from Tarballs.
 99% of us use whatever package manager comes with our distros.  I can
 state categorically that there is no such script included with the
 *buntu distros out there.
 
 I use 11.11.42 installed from Debian Sid repository, and there's no such 
 script on my system, either. Sounds like the package maintainer isn't 
 including them, or maybe you need to have the -src package installed, too?
 

You should do a bug report on the bug reporting system of your distro (Ubuntu
/ Debian) asking the distro packagers to include this script in the next
package update.

The script is quite hidden as all other scripts in the /scripts/ directory in
the source code appear to be build or development related (of no use to normal
users), so I imagine the packagers never noticed this script.

I will certainly include this script in the next update of my Redhat / Centos
/ SL Rosegarden package.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD

2012-05-16 Thread jimmy

 Gary G. wrote:

 Actually I just checked and that script is still included in
 the current
 rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under
 /scripts/.
 
 Here are some instructions on how to use it:
 
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102
 
 If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't
 changed since 2005 ,
 then the script should still work fine.
 

Here's getting it from the Rosegarden source-code repository:

   https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/

   
https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/scripts/

   
https://rosegarden.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rosegarden/trunk/rosegarden/scripts/ins2rgd.pl


I'm not a Perl guru, but can fumble around if need to.  If you have problem 
running the script to convert certain .INS file(s), I can probably help take a 
look at a couple of those if I can find the time, first come first serve -- no 
guarrantee what-so-ever.  But first, run the script if you can, capture the 
errors, and the resulting output file.

Post and attach tar/zip copy of those files to this mailing list, so other 
people can help out, or learn by fumble-around on their own if they want.  It's 
Rosegarden related, so it's not off-topic on this list.


Jimmy



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD Files

2012-05-15 Thread Andy
Gary G. wrote:

 It looks like 7 years ago the developers of Rosegarden had indeed been
 developing such a script.
 
 A fellow by the name of Pedro Lopez-Cabanillos was working on exactly this
 problem with a perl script called ins2rgd.pl  Somehow it seems the project
 simply vanished or lost interest.

Actually I just checked and that script is still included in the current
rosegarden source code tarball, you can find it under /scripts/.

Here are some instructions on how to use it:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user/5102

If the rgd file format and the ins file format hasn't changed since 2005 ,
then the script should still work fine.

Let us know how you get on with it.


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