[rrd-users] Re: Displayed data in rrdgraph is not the same as the input data

2007-01-22 Thread Peter Valdemar Mørch
Judith L. Pancho judith.pancho-at-latitudebroadband.com |Lists| wrote:
 I'm using rrdtool to monitor the network traffic. But there seems to be 
 a problem. The input data is the throughput in kbps. I converted this to 
 bps (by multiplying 1000) and entered the data in rrdtable. Then I used 
 rrdgraph to display the CURRENT throughput. I expect that the CURRENT 
 throughput would be the same as the input data but  the CURRENT 
 throughput (in kbps) displayed in rrdgraph is different from the input 
 data. 
 
 Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Judith,

If you update your rrd file exactly on step boundaries, the output data 
will be exactly your input data. So if you want your output data exacly, 
make sure your timestamp on update is exactly e.g. 12:00:00 and not 
12:00:02.

When the update timestamp is slightly off, rrdtool compensates the input 
value for that, because internally it doesn't store your update time. 
So, in effect, rrdtool compensates for my sloppy system where cron jobs 
don't run EXACTLY on time. That is probably why you don't see your input 
values exactly on output.

Peter

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[rrd-users] Fw: Changing default font on a Windows system

2007-01-22 Thread ian . gray
 
Further to this... I have a feeling this may be related to the hideous
question of compiling. Is the config.h file read every time the program is
executed, or is it only read during compilation? If the latter, I'm stuck...
Bear in mind that as a Windows type, I'm not used to compiling programs
before use - wouldn't have the first clue how to. This has always been a
source of great confusion with open source stuff, as so much of it (great
software nonetheless) assumes that you're a command line C programmer
workingon Unix... 8-( 
Can anyone help me? 

Thanks, 

Ian 
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Changing default font on a Windows system 



Hi, 

I'm trying to change the default font on a Windows RRD system. I go to
c:\rrdtools\rrdtool\confignt\config.h, and change the line 

#define RRD_DEFAULT_FONT cour.ttf 

to 

#define RRD_DEFAULT_FONT c:\winnt\fonts\verdana.ttf 

The result? Bugger all. Fonts still appear in Courier. Have I missed a step?
Do I need to do something with that config.h file after I've changed it? I
can change the font successfully for an individual graph, but not the
default. 
Using v1.2rc6. 

What am I doing wrong... 

TIA, 

Ian 
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[rrd-users] Re: How are --start and --end supposed to behave?

2007-01-22 Thread Peter Valdemar Mørch
Tobias Oetiker tobi-at-oetiker.ch |Lists| wrote:
 Returning a row after $end_time is a new issue and should probably be
 seen as a bug.
 
 note that the design goal of fetch is to return enough data to
 'covert' at least the interval covered with start-end, if a little
 more data is returned there is no harm done ...

Of course, compared to the rest of life, there is no harm done whatever 
happens with --start and --end! :D

Tobi, it seems you disagree with Alex that the current behaviour is 
buggy. If the two of you disagree, well no wonder I'm confused!

If there is some reason I don't understand that you'd like the freedom 
to change this behaviour, and therefore would prefer to leave it 
undocumented?

I don't mind submitting a .pod patch e.g. to doc/rrdfetch.pod 
documenting the current behaviour, if that is what we should stick with. 
Something along the lines of Alex's examples.

For my script to break for unpredictable and undocumented reasons - well 
that *is* some small harm to me, because my script needs the data from 
exactly the N last good samples, not N-1 or N+1. And until I discovered 
the '+1' trick I didn't know how to do that.

Would such a documentation patch be considered?

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[rrd-users] Re: Fw: Changing default font on a Windows system

2007-01-22 Thread ian . gray
 
Hi Peter, 
Aha! Thanks for that - at least I kn= ow why it's not working now! 

I can use the --font option (and have done successfully), but as I have
about500 graphs I don't *really* want to have to (a) modify each of those
config lines, and (b) add that much extra data to the batch file that runs.
That, after all, is the beauty of a default! 

Is there any way of getting either a simple config file that is read
dynamically, or else having someone point me to a dummies guide to
compilingRRDTool etc for Windows? 

Thanks! 

Ian 
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Hi Ian,

.h files are *only* read during compilation ( or your system would 
surely slow to a crawl! :D )

What's wrong with the --font option to rrdgraph?
http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdgraph.en.html
mentions:
--font DEFAULT:0:/usr/lib/fonts/times.ttf

Peter

ian.gray-at-okieurope.com |Lists| wrote:
 
Further to this... I have a feeling this may be related to the hideous= 
question of compiling. Is the config.h file read every time the program is
executed, or is it only read during compilation? If the latter, I'm
stuck...
Bear in mind that as a Windows type, I'm not used to compiling program= s
before use - wouldn't have the first clue how to. This has always been a
source of great confusion with open source stuff, as so much of it (great
software nonetheless) assumes that you're a command line C programmer
workingon Unix... 8-( 
Can anyone help me? 

Thanks, 

Ian 
=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=
=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F
Ian K Gray
OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support
Tel: +44 1236 502661
Mob: +44 7881 518854 
- Forwarded by Ian Gray/OEL/OKI=5FDATA=5FCORP/OKI=5FELECTRIC/US on=
22/01/2007
09:42 - 
Ian Gray/OEL/OKI=5FDATA=5FCORP/OKI=5FELECTRIC/US 

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Changing default font on a Windows system 



Hi, 

I'm trying to change the default font on a Windows RRD system. I go to
c:\rrdtools\rrdtool\confignt\config.h, and change the line 

#define RRD=5FDEFAULT=5FFONT cour.tt= f 

to 

#define RRD=5FDEFAULT=5FFONT c:\winn= t\fonts\verdana.ttf 

The result? Bugger all. Fonts still appear in Courier. Have I missed a
step?
Do I need to do something with that config.h file after I've changed it? I
can change the font successfully for an individual graph, but not the
default. 
Using v1.2rc6. 

What am I doing wrong... 

TIA, 

Ian 
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07881 518854 

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[rrd-users] Re: Fw: Changing default font on a Windows system

2007-01-22 Thread Peter Valdemar Mørch
Hi Ian,

.h files are *only* read during compilation ( or your system would
surely slow to a crawl! :D )

What's wrong with the --font option to rrdgraph?
http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdgraph.en.html
mentions:
--font DEFAULT:0:/usr/lib/fonts/times.ttf

Peter

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[rrd-users] Re: Fw: Changing default font on a Windows system

2007-01-22 Thread Kiss Gabor (Bitman)
 Further to this... I have a feeling this may be related to the hideous
 question of compiling.

 I'm trying to change the default font on a Windows RRD system. I go to
 c:\rrdtools\rrdtool\confignt\config.h, and change the line

#define RRD_DEFAULT_FONT cour.ttf

 to

#define RRD_DEFAULT_FONT c:\winnt\fonts\verdana.ttf

Did you try c:\\winnt\\fonts\\verdana.ttf
or c:/winnt/fonts/verdana.ttf ?

Gabor

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[rrd-users] Re: How are --start and --end supposed to behave?

2007-01-22 Thread Tobias Oetiker
Hi Peter,

what Alex says about time stamps I agree with (I think), so if you
see data with a time stamp then this means that it is valid for
the interval ending at that point in time so if the time stamp says
11:00 then the data associated with it is valid between 10:55 and
11:00 (assuming a 300 second step)

As for the amount of data fetch returns, the intended behavior is
for it to return enough data to 'cover' the requested time
interval at a resolution equal or better than requested ...

if you have a suggestion for a documentation change to better
convey this intention, please send it my way.


cheers
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[rrd-users] rrdtool 1.2.17 is out

2007-01-22 Thread Tobias Oetiker
Hi Users,

It seems that the stricter parsing for string formatting escapes I
introduced in 1.2.16 has interesting side effects. Until now, any
\X sequence where X was not one of the documented escapes was
treated as \l this lead some people to believe that \n was a valid
sequence. There was even contributed documentation in the RRDtool
distro suggesting as much.

I have therefor release 1.2.17 with the sole change that \n is now
a valid and documented alias to \l.

 http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/pub

cheers
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[rrd-users] problem with 1.2.16

2007-01-22 Thread Alexander Krogloth
hi,

yesterday i updated to 1.2.16 (last version was 1.2.15) - 
following script doesn't work with the new version:


#!/bin/sh

. /data/rrd/etc/graph.conf

#FILE=$RRDDIR/temp.rrd


echo Content-Type: image/png;
echo ;

# time
starttime $1

# graph
$RRDTOOL graph - \
-t Temp -v °C \
--start=$TIME \
--end=now \
--height=$HEIGHT \
--width=$WIDTH \
-c $BACK \
-c $SHADEA \
-c $SHADEB \
-c $FONT \
-c $CANVAS \
-c $GRID \
-c $MGRID \
-c $FRAME \
-c $ARROW \
DEF:sda=$RRDDIR/hddtemp-8-0.rrd:value:AVERAGE \
DEF:sdb=$RRDDIR/hddtemp-8-16.rrd:value:AVERAGE \
LINE1:sda#80:sda \
GPRINT:sda:LAST:Last\: %2.0lf °C \
GPRINT:sda:MAX:  Max\: %2.0lf °C \
GPRINT:sda:MIN:  Min\: %2.0lf °C \
GPRINT:sda:AVERAGE: Avg\: %2.0lf °C\n \
LINE1:sdb#00FF00:sdb \
GPRINT:sdb:LAST:Last\: %2.0lf °C \
GPRINT:sdb:MAX:  Max\: %2.0lf °C \
GPRINT:sdb:MIN:  Min\: %2.0lf °C \
GPRINT:sdb:AVERAGE: Avg\: %2.0lf °C
---

the error is:

---
Content-Type: image/png

ERROR: Unknown control code at the end of ' Avg: 24 °C\n'
--

any ideas why my script doesn't work with 1.2.16 - it worked with 1.2.15
i have a couple of scripts that doesn't work with the new version

thanks for any suggestions

greets
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[rrd-users] Re: problem with 1.2.16

2007-01-22 Thread Andreas Maus
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 01:51:31PM +0100, Alexander Krogloth wrote:
Hi.
 hi,
 
 yesterday i updated to 1.2.16 (last version was 1.2.15) - 
 following script doesn't work with the new version:
[... snipp ...]

 
 the error is:
 
 ---
 Content-Type: image/png
 
 ERROR: Unknown control code at the end of ' Avg: 24 ?C\n'
 --
 
 any ideas why my script doesn't work with 1.2.16 - it worked with 1.2.15
 i have a couple of scripts that doesn't work with the new version
Try to update to 1.2.17.

From the CHANGES file of 1.2.17:

2007-01-22 10:28  oetiker

* doc/rrdgraph_graph.pod, src/rrd_graph.c: introduced \n as an alias
  for \l since people seem to be using it despite the documentation
  not talking about this ... so now it is official and I bet there
  will soon be people asking why this was only working at the end of
  a line. -- tobi

HTH,

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[rrd-users] Re: problem with 1.2.16

2007-01-22 Thread Alexander Krogloth
hi,

 Try to update to 1.2.17.
thanks, i haven't read the mail with the new version

greets
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[rrd-users] Re: Displayed data in rrdgraph is not the same as the input data

2007-01-22 Thread Judith L. Pancho
Peter Valdemar Mørch wrote:
 Judith L. Pancho judith.pancho-at-latitudebroadband.com |Lists| wrote:
   
 I'm using rrdtool to monitor the network traffic. ...

 Your help would be greatly appreciated.
 

 Hi Judith,

 If you update your rrd file exactly on step boundaries, the output data 
 will be exactly your input data. So if you want your output data exacly, 
 make sure your timestamp on update is exactly e.g. 12:00:00 and not 
 12:00:02.

 When the update timestamp is slightly off, rrdtool compensates the input 
 value for that, because internally it doesn't store your update time. 
 So, in effect, rrdtool compensates for my sloppy system where cron jobs 
 don't run EXACTLY on time. That is probably why you don't see your input 
 values exactly on output.

 Peter

   
Thanks Guy for the clarification that helps me a lot...

Regards,
~Judith

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[rrd-users] What is the best way to consolidate RRD data into one average value?

2007-01-22 Thread Jim Ausman
Hi Guys,

I have quite a few separate RRD files that are holding CPU percentage
utilization numbers that I want to consolidate into one value. I know
how to graph them all separately, but how do I present them as one
average value? I guess I can use rrdxport and then add them up using
perl, but this seems clumsy and it must have been done before. Is this
already part of RRD? I already scoured the man pages and the archives,
but there is quite possibly something that I have missed.

Thanks,
Jim

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[rrd-users] Re: What is the best way to consolidate RRD data into one average value?

2007-01-22 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 06:22:55PM -0800, Jim Ausman wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 
 I have quite a few separate RRD files that are holding CPU percentage
 utilization numbers that I want to consolidate into one value. I know
 how to graph them all separately, but how do I present them as one
 average value? I guess I can use rrdxport and then add them up using
 perl, but this seems clumsy and it must have been done before. Is this
 already part of RRD? I already scoured the man pages and the archives,
 but there is quite possibly something that I have missed.

Am I missing something, or can you just add the values up using
RRDtool's standard 'CDEF' mechanisms ?

CDEF is discussed in the rrd graph documentation, and in more detail
in the cdeftutorial.

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