Re: [rt-users] Workflow for comments or changing CC to BCC

2011-08-23 Thread Lars Reimann

Hi Thomas,

thank you for reply. I will fix that misconfiguration. See inline text:


 On 16.08.2011 18:13, Thomas Sibley wrote:

On 08/16/2011 11:38 AM, Lars Reimann wrote:

I assume comments are for internal messages only. But how is this
realized? We for example have the same mail address for reply and comment.

Having the same email address for reply and comments is wrong and a
misconfiguration.  It means email replies to mailed out comments will be
interpreted as correspondence, not private comments.


I'd like to change normal CC actions to BCC.

Why?


Because we have watcher groups for external and internal people. Both 
are member of administrative cc (BCC) at the moment. But the external 
people should _not_ receive (internal) comments and also do not want to 
be added as CC either (only BCC is acceptable for them and us).


Maybe there is a better way to do this. If you know one, please share it.

Thanks a lot,

LR


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Re: [rt-users] Workflow for comments or changing CC to BCC

2011-08-23 Thread Thomas Sibley
On 08/23/2011 09:52 AM, Lars Reimann wrote:
 Because we have watcher groups for external and internal people. Both
 are member of administrative cc (BCC) at the moment. But the external
 people should _not_ receive (internal) comments and also do not want to
 be added as CC either (only BCC is acceptable for them and us).

AdminCc is not just another name for Bcc.  It is treated differently
than Cc by a stock RT.  This is the reason your external AdminCc
watchers are receiving internal comments, because out of the box RT's
scrips send comments to AdminCcs, but not Ccs.

Changing Ticket/Queue Ccs to actually be Bcced would be a bit of work,
or might be possible with some really clever templates.

Thomas

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[rt-users] Workflow for comments or changing CC to BCC

2011-08-16 Thread Lars Reimann

Hi all,

can someone please outline the workflow of comments in RT to me.

I assume comments are for internal messages only. But how is this 
realized? We for example have the same mail address for reply and comment.


I'd like to change normal CC actions to BCC.


My question: can I change all occurences of CC in
rt-3.8.8/lib/RT/Action/Notify
to BCC without doing damage?

I will of course not do this there, but in a local customization (where 
shall I put the file?)


Thanks in advance,
LR

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Re: [rt-users] Workflow for comments or changing CC to BCC

2011-08-16 Thread Chris McCafferty
Dear LR:

The short answer is that the definition of what a comment does is determined by 
your Scrips. 

On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Lars Reimann wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 can someone please outline the workflow of comments in RT to me.
 
 I assume comments are for internal messages only. But how is this realized? 
 We for example have the same mail address for reply and comment.
 
 I'd like to change normal CC actions to BCC.
 
 
 My question: can I change all occurences of CC in
 rt-3.8.8/lib/RT/Action/Notify
 to BCC without doing damage?
 
 I will of course not do this there, but in a local customization (where shall 
 I put the file?)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 LR
 
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Re: [rt-users] Workflow for comments or changing CC to BCC

2011-08-16 Thread Kenneth Crocker
Lars,

What happens is also determined by your settings in the Reply/Comment page.
You can configure RT to default to NOT sending out comments in an email
(which can be overridden in a template with the right code) and you can also
change that default while in the reply/comment screen. The email address for
comments really doesn't change that aspect. If you never send out comments
in the mail, then they are there for historical access IF, and only IF,
someone has the ShowTicketComments which is a *separate* right from
ShowTicket.

Hope this helps.

Kenn
LBNL

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Chris McCafferty c...@ias.edu wrote:

 Dear LR:

 The short answer is that the definition of what a comment does is
 determined by your Scrips.

 On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Lars Reimann wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  can someone please outline the workflow of comments in RT to me.
 
  I assume comments are for internal messages only. But how is this
 realized? We for example have the same mail address for reply and comment.
 
  I'd like to change normal CC actions to BCC.
 
 
  My question: can I change all occurences of CC in
  rt-3.8.8/lib/RT/Action/Notify
  to BCC without doing damage?
 
  I will of course not do this there, but in a local customization (where
 shall I put the file?)
 
  Thanks in advance,
  LR
  
  RT Training Sessions (http://bestpractical.com/services/training.html)
  *  Chicago, IL, USA  September 26  27, 2011
  *  San Francisco, CA, USA  October 18  19, 2011
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  *  Melbourne VIC, Australia  November 28  29, 2011
  *  Barcelona, Spain  November 28  29, 2011
 

 
 RT Training Sessions (http://bestpractical.com/services/training.html)
 *  Chicago, IL, USA  September 26  27, 2011
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Re: [rt-users] Workflow for comments or changing CC to BCC

2011-08-16 Thread Thomas Sibley
On 08/16/2011 11:38 AM, Lars Reimann wrote:
 I assume comments are for internal messages only. But how is this
 realized? We for example have the same mail address for reply and comment.

Having the same email address for reply and comments is wrong and a
misconfiguration.  It means email replies to mailed out comments will be
interpreted as correspondence, not private comments.

 I'd like to change normal CC actions to BCC.

Why?

Thomas

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