Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-11 Thread Jesse Vincent

> 
>Thanks, Jesse.   Should I assume that this is a personal version of
>PlainTextPre ?  

Yes.

>If so, I would possibly change the either the text
>description and/or the implementation to simply use a fixed width font but
>allow word wrap.  This could be done with modern stylesheets.


Actually, just this morning, I ran across:

white-space: pre-wrap

(That's a little different than "use a fixed width font", primarily in
how it handles email text like .)

Give that a shot. If it works well for you, I'll make the change to the
default styles.



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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-11 Thread Jo Rhett

On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Jesse Vincent wrote:

Click "Preferences"
Scroll down to the "Ticket Display" section.

You're looking for "Use Monospace Font"

http://www.grabup.com/uploads/ea9bbd8f14b00d950ce86cd25a080989.png

It has the help text: "Use fixed-width font to display plaintext  
messages"



Thanks, Jesse.   Should I assume that this is a personal version of  
PlainTextPre ?  If so, I would possibly change the either the text  
description and/or the implementation to simply use a fixed width font  
but allow word wrap.  This could be done with modern stylesheets.


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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-11 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Tue 10.Feb'09 at 18:08:32 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote:
>
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
>> If I:
>>- Turn off the HTML composer
>>- Turn off hard wrapping in the plain-text composition window
>>- Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>>  monospace font (inside a , essentially)
>>
>> Then yes, RT will not wrap the content of your message.
>>
>> I'm not really sure how much of a bug I consider that.
>
>
> Perhaps a documentation bug?  There actually isn't much RT documentation 
> saying "these are the settings we expect to work best for most people"
>
> You haven't even told me what this setting is...
>>- Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>>  monospace font (inside a , essentially)
>

Click "Preferences"
Scroll down to the "Ticket Display" section.

You're looking for "Use Monospace Font"

http://www.grabup.com/uploads/ea9bbd8f14b00d950ce86cd25a080989.png

It has the help text: "Use fixed-width font to display plaintext messages"

>
> I'd be fine to disable this if it's not what you expect/test for/etc.   
> Just tell me what setting this is.
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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
No change. Full apache stop.  rm -rf /var/run/rt38/mason_data/obj.   
Apache start.

On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:48 PM, gor...@cryologic.com wrote:
> Perhaps deleting the mason cache before restarting apache may fix it?
>
> Gordon
>
>
> Jo Rhett wrote:
>> FWIW, this setting is now 0 and there are still  tags in the   
>> output.
>> 
>> Go into my preferences and
>> $ grep TextPre /usr/local/etc/rt38/*
>> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:=item C<$PlainTextPre>
>> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:to be displayed correctly.  By   
>> setting $PlainTextPre they'll be
>> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:Set($PlainTextPre, 0);
>> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_SiteConfig.pm:Set( $PlainTextPre, 0 );
>> Apache has been fully stopped and started and this behavior  
>> continues.

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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread gordon
Perhaps deleting the mason cache before restarting apache may fix it?

Gordon


Jo Rhett wrote:
> FWIW, this setting is now 0 and there are still  tags in the  
> output.
> 
> 
> Go into my preferences and
> 
> $ grep TextPre /usr/local/etc/rt38/*
> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:=item C<$PlainTextPre>
> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:to be displayed correctly.  By  
> setting $PlainTextPre they'll be
> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:Set($PlainTextPre, 0);
> /usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_SiteConfig.pm:Set( $PlainTextPre, 0 );
> 
> Apache has been fully stopped and started and this behavior continues.
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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
FWIW, this setting is now 0 and there are still  tags in the  
output.


Go into my preferences and

$ grep TextPre /usr/local/etc/rt38/*
/usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:=item C<$PlainTextPre>
/usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:to be displayed correctly.  By  
setting $PlainTextPre they'll be
/usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_Config.pm:Set($PlainTextPre, 0);
/usr/local/etc/rt38/RT_SiteConfig.pm:Set( $PlainTextPre, 0 );

Apache has been fully stopped and started and this behavior continues.

On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
> The only thing I can find in the configuration is $PlainTextPre which
> was set to 1.  I changed it to 0 and restarted apache and this has not
> changed anything.  I even created another test ticket to be certain.
>
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
>> On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
>>> If I:
>>>  - Turn off the HTML composer
>>>  - Turn off hard wrapping in the plain-text composition window
>>>  - Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>>>monospace font (inside a , essentially)
>>>
>>> Then yes, RT will not wrap the content of your message.
>>>
>>> I'm not really sure how much of a bug I consider that.
>>
>>
>> Perhaps a documentation bug?  There actually isn't much RT
>> documentation saying "these are the settings we expect to work best
>> for most people"
>>
>> You haven't even told me what this setting is...
>>>  - Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>>>monospace font (inside a , essentially)
>>
>>
>> I'd be fine to disable this if it's not what you expect/test for/etc.
>> Just tell me what setting this is.
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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
The only thing I can find in the configuration is $PlainTextPre which  
was set to 1.  I changed it to 0 and restarted apache and this has not  
changed anything.  I even created another test ticket to be certain.

On Feb 10, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
>> If I:
>>   - Turn off the HTML composer
>>   - Turn off hard wrapping in the plain-text composition window
>>   - Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>> monospace font (inside a , essentially)
>>
>> Then yes, RT will not wrap the content of your message.
>>
>> I'm not really sure how much of a bug I consider that.
>
>
> Perhaps a documentation bug?  There actually isn't much RT
> documentation saying "these are the settings we expect to work best
> for most people"
>
> You haven't even told me what this setting is...
>>   - Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>> monospace font (inside a , essentially)
>
>
> I'd be fine to disable this if it's not what you expect/test for/etc.
> Just tell me what setting this is.
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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett

On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
> If I:
>- Turn off the HTML composer
>- Turn off hard wrapping in the plain-text composition window
>- Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>  monospace font (inside a , essentially)
>
> Then yes, RT will not wrap the content of your message.
>
> I'm not really sure how much of a bug I consider that.


Perhaps a documentation bug?  There actually isn't much RT  
documentation saying "these are the settings we expect to work best  
for most people"

You haven't even told me what this setting is...
>- Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
>  monospace font (inside a , essentially)


I'd be fine to disable this if it's not what you expect/test for/etc.   
Just tell me what setting this is.

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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jesse Vincent

Ok,

If I:

- Turn off the HTML composer
- Turn off hard wrapping in the plain-text composition window
- Go into my preferences and set RT to show plain text mail in a
  monospace font (inside a , essentially)

Then yes, RT will not wrap the content of your message. 

I'm not really sure how much of a bug I consider that.

I'd be happy to see a css patch which improves the wrapping of plain
text mail when you've told it to use a monospace font. 


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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Tue 10.Feb'09 at 17:03:34 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
>> Can you provide a screenshot of a whole ticket (with history) that
>> exhibits this?
>
>
> Attached.  

Can you resend that after clicking 'full headers'?

Also, have you customized RT's ticket display to show message content
as a ?


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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
>> And back to my original report.  When I create a ticket inside the RT
>> web interface, the paragraphs of text DO NOT WRAP when I view them
>> inside the very same RT web interface.
>
> That's very different. But with RT's "Web 2" style, I can't  
> replicate it
> on Firefox (Mac), Safari (Mac), Opera (Mac) or IE6 (WINE).

I just replicated it identically on

Camino 2.0b1 (Max)
Firefox 3.0.5 (Mac)
Firefox 3.0.6 (Windows)

This is using 3.8.2 on Freebsd, no extensions enabled.  (I originally  
found it when we had no extensions, and I disabled them again for this  
test to be sure)

To replicate:

1. Click "New Ticket In" on the top bar, or change the queue name to a  
different queue
2. Type something in the subject line.
3. Type a forever long paragraph in the body of the mail.
4. Click "Create"
5. View the ticket text under History and observe that the text is a  
single very long line with no wrapping

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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Tue 10.Feb'09 at 16:55:11 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote:
> I just replicated it on every brower for both Mac and Windows, so it's  
> definitely a "feature" in 3.8.2.

Can you provide a screenshot of a whole ticket (with history) that
exhibits this?
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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
I just replicated it on every brower for both Mac and Windows, so it's  
definitely a "feature" in 3.8.2.

On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Bill Davis wrote:
> Jo Rhett wrote:
>> On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
 And back to my original report.  When I create a ticket inside  
 the RT  web interface, the paragraphs of text DO NOT WRAP when I  
 view them  inside the very same RT web interface.
>>>
>>> That's very different. But with RT's "Web 2" style, I can't  
>>> replicate it
>>> on Firefox (Mac), Safari (Mac), Opera (Mac) or IE6 (WINE).
>>
>> I originally observed this in Camino(Mac) but replicated it on  
>> Firefox Windows.
>>
> I see this occasionally with specific inbound emails.  Suspect it  
> has more to do with the format/content of that specific email than  
> with general RT behavior.
>
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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Bill Davis
Jo Rhett wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
>>> And back to my original report.  When I create a ticket inside the RT  
>>> web interface, the paragraphs of text DO NOT WRAP when I view them  
>>> inside the very same RT web interface.
>>
>> That's very different. But with RT's "Web 2" style, I can't replicate it
>> on Firefox (Mac), Safari (Mac), Opera (Mac) or IE6 (WINE).
>
> I originally observed this in Camino(Mac) but replicated it on Firefox 
> Windows.
>
I see this occasionally with specific inbound emails.  Suspect it has
more to do with the format/content of that specific email than with
general RT behavior.

Bill Davis

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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett

On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:

And back to my original report.  When I create a ticket inside the RT
web interface, the paragraphs of text DO NOT WRAP when I view them
inside the very same RT web interface.


That's very different. But with RT's "Web 2" style, I can't  
replicate it

on Firefox (Mac), Safari (Mac), Opera (Mac) or IE6 (WINE).



I originally observed this in Camino(Mac) but replicated it on Firefox  
Windows.


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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jesse Vincent


>
> And back to my original report.  When I create a ticket inside the RT  
> web interface, the paragraphs of text DO NOT WRAP when I view them  
> inside the very same RT web interface.

That's very different. But with RT's "Web 2" style, I can't replicate it
on Firefox (Mac), Safari (Mac), Opera (Mac) or IE6 (WINE).



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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
> It sure can be. My mail clients all autowrap long lines.  As a
> _personal_ preference, I generally find myself happier having my  
> client
> rewrap incoming mail than accepting someone else's default.

This bug report was about the web interface.

>> In theory, the input should be soft wrap, and the client should wrap
>> text at whatever is appropriate for the viewer, yah?
>
> That's what soft wrapping is. "Wrap on display, not in the actual  
> text"


And back to my original report.  When I create a ticket inside the RT  
web interface, the paragraphs of text DO NOT WRAP when I view them  
inside the very same RT web interface.

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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jesse Vincent

> I understand that, but I don't understand "no wrap at all".  The ticket I 
> created has a few lines with 3000+ characters.  That's *never* useful.

It sure can be. My mail clients all autowrap long lines.  As a
_personal_ preference, I generally find myself happier having my client
rewrap incoming mail than accepting someone else's default. 

> In theory, the input should be soft wrap, and the client should wrap  
> text at whatever is appropriate for the viewer, yah?

That's what soft wrapping is. "Wrap on display, not in the actual text"

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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
> Different people and different organizations have different  
> preferences
> for line wrap.  When you're free of 80 column terminals, (either  
> because
> you have a phone which displays 30-50 characters per line or a client
> which displays 90ish columns as you make your window wider, you  
> might be
> less thrilled with someone hard-wrapping at 72 characters.


I understand that, but I don't understand "no wrap at all".  The  
ticket I created has a few lines with 3000+ characters.  That's  
*never* useful.

In theory, the input should be soft wrap, and the client should wrap  
text at whatever is appropriate for the viewer, yah?

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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jesse Vincent

> > Set($MessageBoxWrap, "SOFT");
> >
> > Set($MessageBoxWrap, "HARD");
> 
> 
> I certainly can do -- but why is this an option?  Is there any reason  
> for Soft mode, ever?

Different people and different organizations have different preferences
for line wrap.  When you're free of 80 column terminals, (either because
you have a phone which displays 30-50 characters per line or a client
which displays 90ish columns as you make your window wider, you might be
less thrilled with someone hard-wrapping at 72 characters. 




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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-10 Thread Jo Rhett
> Jo Rhett wrote:
>> Most of our tickets are created through e-mail so I didn't notice  
>> this.
>> I just created a ticket inside RT 3.8.2 using the "New Ticket In"   
>> button at the top of the page and the text is unreadable when  
>> viewing  the ticket because my paragraphs simply aren't line  
>> wrapping.  There  is a scrollbar in the view and you can scroll  
>> back and forth but this  is obnoxiously difficult.

On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, gor...@cryologic.com wrote:
> in RT_Site_Config change
>
> Set($MessageBoxWrap, "SOFT");
>
> Set($MessageBoxWrap, "HARD");


I certainly can do -- but why is this an option?  Is there any reason  
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Re: [rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-09 Thread gordon
Jo Rhett wrote:
> Most of our tickets are created through e-mail so I didn't notice this.
> 
> I just created a ticket inside RT 3.8.2 using the "New Ticket In"  
> button at the top of the page and the text is unreadable when viewing  
> the ticket because my paragraphs simply aren't line wrapping.  There  
> is a scrollbar in the view and you can scroll back and forth but this  
> is obnoxiously difficult.

in RT_Site_Config change

Set($MessageBoxWrap, "SOFT");

Set($MessageBoxWrap, "HARD");
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[rt-users] tickets created in RT don't line-wrap?

2009-02-09 Thread Jo Rhett
Most of our tickets are created through e-mail so I didn't notice this.

I just created a ticket inside RT 3.8.2 using the "New Ticket In"  
button at the top of the page and the text is unreadable when viewing  
the ticket because my paragraphs simply aren't line wrapping.  There  
is a scrollbar in the view and you can scroll back and forth but this  
is obnoxiously difficult.

-- 
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source  
and other randomness


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