Re: [rt-users] why does RT alter the mail header order?
On Tue 27.Jan'09 at 11:59:39 -0800, Jo Rhett wrote: Why does RT alter the mail header ordering? If we get spam sent to RT I'd like to build a Scrip to report the spam, but it appears that RT is so misordering the mail headers that this becomes impossible. They aren't alphabetical... or really anything I can find. They appear to be completely random. Last time this came up, I found the reference in RFC822 or 2822 that said that headers weren't technically an ordered list. RT doesn't intentionally massage the header order, but either MIME::Tools or RT, stores them as a hash at some point pgpy4eA7Zo9FI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] why does RT alter the mail header order?
On Jan 27, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote: Last time this came up, I found the reference in RFC822 or 2822 that said that headers weren't technically an ordered list. Yes, but in practice everyone has shifted away from this. Received header ordering is absolutely necessary for proper spam reporting. RT doesn't intentionally massage the header order, but either MIME::Tools or RT, stores them as a hash at some point I'll dig into this. Is there any place that RT stores the original, unaltered message? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] why does RT alter the mail header order?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:11:35PM -0800, Jo Rhett wrote: Is there any place that RT stores the original, unaltered message? Not by default, no. The first thing RT does when it gets its mitts on a mesage is split it into seperate MIME bodies and normalize them to UTF-8. Were I going to start from scratch today, I'd make a different decision. ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
Re: [rt-users] why does RT alter the mail header order?
Following up on my own post: RFC 2822, 3.6: ...for the purposes of this standard, header fields SHOULD NOT be reordered when a message is transported or transformed. More importantly, the trace header fields and resent header fields MUST NOT be reordered, and SHOULD be kept in blocks prepended to the message. So, if we're reordering the received lines, it's a bug I'd like to see fixed. Assuming they don't otherwise compromise the system (which is really, always the case), patches would most certainly be welcome. Best, Jesse ___ http://lists.bestpractical.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/rt-users Community help: http://wiki.bestpractical.com Commercial support: sa...@bestpractical.com Discover RT's hidden secrets with RT Essentials from O'Reilly Media. Buy a copy at http://rtbook.bestpractical.com
