[RollTideFan] Former Alabama assistants still drawing pay

2003-07-21 Thread SAR
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/6352328.htm
 Posted on Mon, Jul. 21, 2003

  Former Alabama assistants still drawing pay
  Associated Press

  TUSCALOOSA, Ala. - Three former Alabama assistant coaches are still drawing
salaries, but it's unclear what, if anything, they're doing to earn their pay.

  Eric and Aaron Price, sons of former coach Mike Price, and Kasey Dunn remain
under contract after being "reassigned" within the athletic department.

  They are "reporting to me and I'll just leave it at that," athletic director Mal
Moore told The Birmingham News when asked about the coaches' duties. But, he said,
none of the former coaches have offices in the football complex and he doesn't meet
with them on a regular basis.

  The newspaper was unable to reach any of the coaches for comment.

  The university is obligated to pay the coaches until their two-year contracts
expire or they land new jobs. Eric Price has an annual salary of $180,000 while Dunn
is making $160,000 and Aaron Price $130,000.

  Dunn and Aaron Price followed Mike Price from Washington State while Eric Price
had been an assistant with the New York Jets.

  New head coach Mike Shula decided not to retain the Price brothers and Dunn.

  Moore praised their abilities and said "they will land on their feet." But most
vacancies had been filled before their reassignment in May.

  The payments will probably continue until coaching jobs come open in December,
Moore said, declining to comment on what would happen if they aren't hired.

  Alabama will pay the coaches about $235,000 from their reassignment to
mid-November, far less than the $940,000 the university would have owed if the coaches
had been fired instead of reassigned 

  ScR


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Re: [RollTideFan] Football tickets

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
I don't have a specific date, but did read that they would be mailed the 
second week in August.

Rick

Devonna Snuggs wrote:
Has anyone heard when football tickets are going to be mailed?

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Re: [RollTideFan] New Assistant Soccer Coach

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
She was such a perfect fit for the 'HerdZone'.

Slef E.

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Re: [RollTideFan] New Assistant Soccer Coach

2003-07-21 Thread SAR
Unretouched even! Good deal, thanks Rick...never really doubted you.

ScR
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> My bad...what can I say other than I'm starting to slip in my old age
> ... here are links to the only two shots of TP I could find ...RTR!
>
> http://www.rolltide.com/Soccer/8610.asp
>
> http://www.herdzone.com/sports/wsoccer/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=7594
>
> Rick
>
> SAR wrote:
> > Rick, why on earth did you send this without a pic? Geez
> >
> > ScR
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Ricky McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >>Crimson Tide hires assistant soccer coach
> >>July 21, 2003
> >>
> >>http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030721/NEWS/307210342/1011
> >>
> >>TUSCALOOSA | Teresa Patterson has been hired as an assistant soccer
> >>coach at the University of Alabama.
> >>
> >>Patterson spent the past five seasons as the head coach at Marshall
> >>University, where she began the soccer program in 1997.
> >>
> >>“We’re very excited and fortunate to have the opportunity to add Teresa
> >>to our staff," coach Don Staley said. “Any time you have the chance to
> >>hire somebody with head coaching experience, you have to jump at it."
> >>
> >>Prior to the 1999 season, Patterson was selected to coach the South
> >>Select Team at the United States Amateur Soccer Association in Portland,
> >>Ore., where she led the South team to the gold medal.
> >>
> >>“I’m very excited to join Coach Staley and his staff and to get the
> >>opportunity to work in the SEC, one of the elite conferences in the
> >>country," Patterson said.
> >>
> >>Patterson spent two years as an assistant coach at UAB and one year as
> >>head coach at Wesleyan College in Macon, Ga. She was an All-Trans
> >>American Conference goalkeeper at Mercer College.
> >>
> >>Roll Tide!!
> >>Rick
> >>-- 
> >>Yea, Alabama! Drown'em Tide!
> >>
> >>
>
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[RollTideFan] Tyler Not A Titan

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
IN OTHER CLUB NEWS: the Titans have waived three members of their 
undrafted rookie class – QB Tyler Watts, G Jake Kuppe and DT Dustin Barno.

http://www.titansonline.com/index.html

Roll Tide Anyway!
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[RollTideFan] HEY DAD!!! THE POOLS LEAKING!!!

2003-07-21 Thread kurt rasmussen
Me: WHAT?  I just bought a new liner!!
Them:  It's the hose.  It cracked!
Me: CARP!   Ya'll grab something to help me get this thing raised up 
above the water level... NOW!
. whew
Me: Ok, I'll order some new hoses, and we'll be good as new..

tick tock... tick tock..

Them: Dad!, the hoses came today.
Me: GREAT! I'll put them on when I get home
work.. work.. work..

Me: OK guys!  You're good to go! Got the hoses on, and checked for leaks 
everything's A-OK!  

view pic now before you proceed.

http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/90195/602083P1170017.JPG

Me:  Help me get this thing back on the ground.



long pause.

10yo: We could cut the arm off the chair!?

MY BOY IS SMRAT!!

kurt

















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Re: [RollTideFan] New Assistant Soccer Coach

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
My bad...what can I say other than I'm starting to slip in my old age 
... here are links to the only two shots of TP I could find ...RTR!

http://www.rolltide.com/Soccer/8610.asp

http://www.herdzone.com/sports/wsoccer/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=7594

Rick

SAR wrote:
Rick, why on earth did you send this without a pic? Geez

ScR
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From: "Ricky McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Crimson Tide hires assistant soccer coach
July 21, 2003
http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030721/NEWS/307210342/1011

TUSCALOOSA | Teresa Patterson has been hired as an assistant soccer
coach at the University of Alabama.
Patterson spent the past five seasons as the head coach at Marshall
University, where she began the soccer program in 1997.
“We’re very excited and fortunate to have the opportunity to add Teresa
to our staff," coach Don Staley said. “Any time you have the chance to
hire somebody with head coaching experience, you have to jump at it."
Prior to the 1999 season, Patterson was selected to coach the South
Select Team at the United States Amateur Soccer Association in Portland,
Ore., where she led the South team to the gold medal.
“I’m very excited to join Coach Staley and his staff and to get the
opportunity to work in the SEC, one of the elite conferences in the
country," Patterson said.
Patterson spent two years as an assistant coach at UAB and one year as
head coach at Wesleyan College in Macon, Ga. She was an All-Trans
American Conference goalkeeper at Mercer College.
Roll Tide!!
Rick
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Re: [RollTideFan] New Assistant Soccer Coach

2003-07-21 Thread SAR
Rick, why on earth did you send this without a pic? Geez

ScR
- Original Message - 
From: "Ricky McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Crimson Tide hires assistant soccer coach
> July 21, 2003
>
> http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030721/NEWS/307210342/1011
>
> TUSCALOOSA | Teresa Patterson has been hired as an assistant soccer
> coach at the University of Alabama.
>
> Patterson spent the past five seasons as the head coach at Marshall
> University, where she began the soccer program in 1997.
>
> “We’re very excited and fortunate to have the opportunity to add Teresa
> to our staff," coach Don Staley said. “Any time you have the chance to
> hire somebody with head coaching experience, you have to jump at it."
>
> Prior to the 1999 season, Patterson was selected to coach the South
> Select Team at the United States Amateur Soccer Association in Portland,
> Ore., where she led the South team to the gold medal.
>
> “I’m very excited to join Coach Staley and his staff and to get the
> opportunity to work in the SEC, one of the elite conferences in the
> country," Patterson said.
>
> Patterson spent two years as an assistant coach at UAB and one year as
> head coach at Wesleyan College in Macon, Ga. She was an All-Trans
> American Conference goalkeeper at Mercer College.
>
> Roll Tide!!
> Rick
> -- 
> Yea, Alabama! Drown'em Tide!
>
>
>
>
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[RollTideFan] NCAA 2004 PS2 game.

2003-07-21 Thread kurt rasmussen


If any of ewe fellers do the playstation/X-box thing, I ran across a 
site that has custom covers for the hot seller NCAA Football 2004. 
You can download them here.

http://www.gameroom.com/ncaacovers/index.html

Here's Bamas' QB.

http://www.gameroom.com/ncaacovers/croyle_ps2.jpg

Here's  Aubruns'.

http://www.gameroom.com/ncaacovers/cobb_ps2.jpg

oh wait...  

kurt





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[RollTideFan] Big Wins in T-town?

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
When was the last *BIG* win Bama had in T-town? LSU in 1999? BYU in 
1998? We've lost a number of *BIG* ones, but the wins have been very few 
during the past _ years. What has happened to our home stadium 
magic? We need to get it back. September 6, 2003 will be a good time to 
start!

Roll Tide!!
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Re: [RollTideFan] Evander Holyfield Jr. An Aub?

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
Yeah, I saw it. Sounds like he's gonna be the
next Jerry Rice.

Slef E.

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To: "RollTideFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:28 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Evander Holyfield Jr. An Aub?


>
> Did you guys see this from last week? Maybe I just slept through it...
>
> Holyfield's Son to Walk On at Auburn as WR
> 07/16/2003
>
>
http://www.secsports.com/index.php?url_channel_id=2&url_subchannel_id=&url_p
ublish_channel_id=1854&well_id=2
>
> AUBURN, Ala. (AP) -- Evander Holyfield Jr. doesn't bring a lot of
> experience to the Auburn football team -- he played just six games of
> football in his high school career -- but one thing he does have is a
> good athletic pedigree.
>
> The 6-foot-3, 160-pound son of boxing great Evander Holyfield plans to
> walk on to the Tigers squad this fall, in hopes of one day developing
> into a star receiver.
>
> "I have a talent for football," Holyfield Jr. told The Mobile Register
> for a Wednesday story. "I feel that once I learn more about the sport
> and get somewhere with someone who teaches me, I can be somebody really
> good."
>
> Holyfield Jr.'s senior season at Landmark Christian High School in
> Atlanta in 2002 is his only prep varsity experience. Playing in just six
> games, he caught three touchdown passes from highly touted junior
> quarterback Alex Mortensen, son of ESPN reporter Chris Mortensen.
>
> "Evander's problem is he didn't come out until his senior year, so it
> was hard to get him into the lineup," Chris Mortensen said Tuesday.
> "Alex felt like, 'God, if he had just been out on the team the year
> before.'"
>
> Holyfield Jr., 19, is the oldest of Holyfield's nine children. He
> transferred to Landmark from a New York prep school to be with his
> father. Football turned out to be a bonus.
>
> "His senior year, we talked about him playing football, so he did and
> absolutely fell in love with it," said Landmark football coach Kenny
> Dallas. "He just needs to play the game. I don't know if he will ever be
> able to become a starting wide receiver for Auburn, but over the next
> five years he is there, I wouldn't be surprised if he would reach that
> point. He has all the potential in the world."
>
> The younger Holyfield has hired a personal trainer to help get him ready
> for the upcoming season and make up for lost time.
>
> He could bring more than raw athletic ability to the Tigers.
>
> Alex Mortensen made an unofficial visit to Auburn Wednesday, and a
> connection to his former receiver could be an edge for the Tigers in
> what figures to be an intense recruiting battle.
>
> Chris Mortensen said Auburn is on his son's short list, along with LSU,
> Arkansas and North Carolina State.
>
> Alex Mortensen threw for 2,291 yards and 25 touchdowns with just six
> interceptions as a junior at Landmark last year.
>
> Roll Tide!
> Rick
> --
> Yea, Alabama! Drown'em Tide!
>
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[RollTideFan] Evander Holyfield Jr. An Aub?

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
Did you guys see this from last week? Maybe I just slept through it...

Holyfield's Son to Walk On at Auburn as WR
07/16/2003
http://www.secsports.com/index.php?url_channel_id=2&url_subchannel_id=&url_publish_channel_id=1854&well_id=2

AUBURN, Ala. (AP) -- Evander Holyfield Jr. doesn't bring a lot of 
experience to the Auburn football team -- he played just six games of 
football in his high school career -- but one thing he does have is a 
good athletic pedigree.

The 6-foot-3, 160-pound son of boxing great Evander Holyfield plans to 
walk on to the Tigers squad this fall, in hopes of one day developing 
into a star receiver.

"I have a talent for football," Holyfield Jr. told The Mobile Register 
for a Wednesday story. "I feel that once I learn more about the sport 
and get somewhere with someone who teaches me, I can be somebody really 
good."

Holyfield Jr.'s senior season at Landmark Christian High School in 
Atlanta in 2002 is his only prep varsity experience. Playing in just six 
games, he caught three touchdown passes from highly touted junior 
quarterback Alex Mortensen, son of ESPN reporter Chris Mortensen.

"Evander's problem is he didn't come out until his senior year, so it 
was hard to get him into the lineup," Chris Mortensen said Tuesday. 
"Alex felt like, 'God, if he had just been out on the team the year 
before.'"

Holyfield Jr., 19, is the oldest of Holyfield's nine children. He 
transferred to Landmark from a New York prep school to be with his 
father. Football turned out to be a bonus.

"His senior year, we talked about him playing football, so he did and 
absolutely fell in love with it," said Landmark football coach Kenny 
Dallas. "He just needs to play the game. I don't know if he will ever be 
able to become a starting wide receiver for Auburn, but over the next 
five years he is there, I wouldn't be surprised if he would reach that 
point. He has all the potential in the world."

The younger Holyfield has hired a personal trainer to help get him ready 
for the upcoming season and make up for lost time.

He could bring more than raw athletic ability to the Tigers.

Alex Mortensen made an unofficial visit to Auburn Wednesday, and a 
connection to his former receiver could be an edge for the Tigers in 
what figures to be an intense recruiting battle.

Chris Mortensen said Auburn is on his son's short list, along with LSU, 
Arkansas and North Carolina State.

Alex Mortensen threw for 2,291 yards and 25 touchdowns with just six 
interceptions as a junior at Landmark last year.

Roll Tide!
Rick
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[RollTideFan] SEC MEDIA DAYS

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
The media days will be next week in Hoover, Bama takes the stage on 
Wednesday 7/30. The agenda according to secsports.com has Shaud Williams 
and Cornelius Wortham as student guest speakers. I thought I remember 
reading earlier that Brooks Daniels and Shaud would make the trip. Do 
any of you remember this?

http://www.secsports.com/index.php?url_channel_id=2&url_publish_channel_id=1855&url_subchannel_id=&well_id=2

ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE

Shaud Williams
Tailback
5-8 * 189 * Sr. * Andrews, Texas
* Shaud closes in on his senior season with 3,176 career 
all-purpose yards, 8th on Alabama's all-time list.
* He has 1,805 career yards rushing, 581 receiving, 352 in punt 
returns and 138 in kickoff returns.
* In 2002, he had four 100-yard rushing games as he compiled 921 yards 
and 5 TDs on the ground. He had a season-high 160 yards in the season 
finale against Hawaii. His other century games came against Southern 
Miss (135), Arkansas (119) and LSU (131).

Cornelius Wortham
Linebacker
6-1 * 230 * Sr. * Calhoun City, Miss.
* The Tide's second-leading tackler last season, Wortham registered 
95 tackles, three stops behind the line for eight yards and one sack for 
eight yards. He also had two pass break-ups and five quarterback pressures.
* In 2002, he had three double-figure tackles games, getting 12 
each against North Texas and Mississippi State and 10 in the Georgia 
contest.
* He holds the linebacker lifting record of 490 pounds in the bench press.

Roll Tide!
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[RollTideFan] New Assistant Soccer Coach

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
Crimson Tide hires assistant soccer coach
July 21, 2003
http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030721/NEWS/307210342/1011

TUSCALOOSA | Teresa Patterson has been hired as an assistant soccer 
coach at the University of Alabama.

Patterson spent the past five seasons as the head coach at Marshall 
University, where she began the soccer program in 1997.

“We’re very excited and fortunate to have the opportunity to add Teresa 
to our staff," coach Don Staley said. “Any time you have the chance to 
hire somebody with head coaching experience, you have to jump at it."

Prior to the 1999 season, Patterson was selected to coach the South 
Select Team at the United States Amateur Soccer Association in Portland, 
Ore., where she led the South team to the gold medal.

“I’m very excited to join Coach Staley and his staff and to get the 
opportunity to work in the SEC, one of the elite conferences in the 
country," Patterson said.

Patterson spent two years as an assistant coach at UAB and one year as 
head coach at Wesleyan College in Macon, Ga. She was an All-Trans 
American Conference goalkeeper at Mercer College.

Roll Tide!!
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Re: [RollTideFan] Football tickets

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot
I tried to, but I still can't find his user ID.


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> You mean you didn't just buy some from James on E-Bay?
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Re: [RollTideFan] Football tickets

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
Speaking of tickets! Not that anyone gives a damn, but...
check out eBay to see how much idjuts are paying for
arbrin tickets! SHIITE FIRE!

Slef E.

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> You mean you didn't just buy some from James on E-Bay?
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Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
Jo-El ain't gonna do that. Since The Queen booted
Jo-El from her court of merry men, he has only
Blobber to tailgate with.

So sad...

Slef E.

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Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


> Yeah. Just ask her when she GRADUATED from UCLA. I dare you. What degree
from UCLA does she actually own and what year did
> she receive it?
>
> She'll tell you that she graduated but will not provide any details
because then you can follow up. She doesn't want that...
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> -Original Message-
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> Importance: High
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> Jo-El:
>
> You should really direct these questions to the
> all knowing Blobber. She has an extensive back-
> ground in the music industry. Hell, she lives on Music Row...don'tcha
know? PLUS she is a graduate of UCLA! If you don't
> believe me, just ask her.
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RE: [RollTideFan] Football tickets

2003-07-21 Thread Mike Laborde
You mean you didn't just buy some from James on E-Bay?



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Has anyone heard when football tickets are going to be mailed?















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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Mike Laborde
Yeah. Just ask her when she GRADUATED from UCLA. I dare you. What degree from UCLA 
does she actually own and what year did
she receive it? 

She'll tell you that she graduated but will not provide any details because then you 
can follow up. She doesn't want that...



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Importance: High


Jo-El:

You should really direct these questions to the
all knowing Blobber. She has an extensive back-
ground in the music industry. Hell, she lives on Music Row...don'tcha know? PLUS she 
is a graduate of UCLA! If you don't
believe me, just ask her.

Slef E.







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[RollTideFan] Football tickets

2003-07-21 Thread Devonna Snuggs
Has anyone heard when football tickets are going to be mailed?


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[RollTideFan] No Intro Needed.

2003-07-21 Thread Joel Perry
http://ic.knoxnews.com/unclesmoky.html





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Re:: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
Actually, no. I wuz kida looking forward to the visit

ScR
---Original Message---
From: Devan Orange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> OK, let's go with (Cig Willie on line 2) ;-)
Feel better?


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RE: RE: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Devan Orange
OK, let's go with (Cig Willie on line 2) ;-)
Feel better?


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From: Devan Orange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I thought you said you tell the truth? (lick Willy on line 2)

What is the truth may be debatable, but get that "lick Willy" on in the
office.   :-)

ScR

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Re: RE: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
---Original Message---
From: Devan Orange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I thought you said you tell the truth? (lick Willy on line 2)

What is the truth may be debatable, but get that "lick Willy" on in the office.   :-)

ScR

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RE: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Devan Orange
I thought you said you tell the truth? (Slick Willy on line 2)

ScR/SAR/Scott/whoever you are posted:

Wouldn't know. I refrain from illegal activities.  ;-)
Wouldn't necessarily trust JoBu's advice either


From: Devan Orange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes!





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[RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
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From: Jeff Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dude,

I'll have you know I am the most high-tech
redneck you have never met!

DAYUM! He has headphones too!  :-)

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Re: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
Dude,

I'll have you know I am the most high-tech
redneck you have never met!

Slef E.

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> ---Original Message---
> From: Jeff Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Q-104 and a tape recorder! :-)
>
>
> If Slef can do it with his 8-track.
>
> ScR
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Re: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
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> Q-104 and a tape recorder! :-)


If Slef can do it with his 8-track.

ScR

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RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Devan Orange
Got it! ;-)

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Q-104 and a tape recorder! :-)

Slef E.

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> BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes!


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Re: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
---Original Message---
From: Devan Orange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes!

Wouldn't know. I refrain from illegal activities.  ;-)
Wouldn't necessarily trust JoBu's advice either

ScR

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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
Q-104 and a tape recorder! :-)

Slef E.

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> BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes!


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RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Devan Orange
I guess it just seems a little trivial to me.
I think the recording industry needs to show the public where their revenue
has dipped 20% since the invent of these music-downloading sites.
BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes!



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From: Devan Orange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Here is my delima...
>Why is it any different than recording music off the radio? 

Ask A.S.C.A.P.. They are the ones who started all this with Napster. They
even have their own investigators going to bars and other public places
checkin what music is being played and if the owners of the joint have paid
their fees. That is what it comes down to ... royalty fees and the
organization's coffers.

ScR

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Re: [RollTideFan] Price / ESPN

2003-07-21 Thread Jenny H.
She did kind of just let him talk, didn't she? She definitely
wasn't asking any hard questions. Neither did she push him,
or even bring up statements he had made previously.
Jenny

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 As I watched him yesterday, I
> wondered if he sought the interview or did ESPN? ESPN certainly did not
> have one of their top reporters asking the questions. She was very weak
> which made me wonder about who approached who first?
>
> RTR!
> Rick Mc.


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Re: [RollTideFan] things (non)

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
Speaking of the Louisville stadium, it reminds me of the Longhorns 
stadium in Austin. It too is right beside the Interstate near downtown. 
40 days till kickoff!!

RTR!
Rick
Devonna Snuggs wrote:
6-I saw the infamous stadium where Louisville beat FSU in the pouring down
rain.  Man, is it ever close to the interstate, you can throw a rock and hit
it from 65!
RTR!!! How many days to kick off?

Devonna




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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd

---Original Message---
From: Devan Orange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Here is my delima...
>Why is it any different than recording music off the radio? 

Ask A.S.C.A.P.. They are the ones who started all this with Napster. They even have 
their own investigators going to bars and other public places checkin what music is 
being played and if the owners of the joint have paid their fees. That is what it 
comes down to ... royalty fees and the organization's coffers.

ScR

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Re: [RollTideFan] Price / ESPN

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
Bottom line, he fucked-up, he needs to be a man and accept the fact he 
got exactly what he deserved from ALABAMA. Now *if* the SI article had 
falsehoods then he has the right to sue, but I don't see how he can 
blame ALABAMA for terminating him. As I watched him yesterday, I 
wondered if he sought the interview or did ESPN? ESPN certainly did not 
have one of their top reporters asking the questions. She was very weak 
which made me wonder about who approached who first?

RTR!
Rick Mc.
Jenny wrote:
He wasn't treated right by SI, he wasn't treated right
by Bama. He doesn't even know why he was fired from
Bama. Witt didn't even tell Price to his face that he was
fired. Witt just announced it to the media. Price admitted
again that he had too much to drink and left a strange
woman alone in his hotel room. But he doesn't have a
problem with alcohol, and he doesn't even drink during
football season. Any body but me think he needs some
cheese with his whine?
Jenny
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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Devan Orange
Here is my delima...
Why is it any different than recording music off the radio? Don't give me
all this, "it is a better recording" crap!
Who cares how clear it is? If you do, then get outside and do something
cause you have been in the dark too long!!!
I have tapes that I recorded from years past...all I did was call up the
radio station, tell them what I wanted to hear, then sit and listen until it
came on.Nobody has put me in jail for that yet.
To tell you the truth, I have downloaded music back when Napster was
flourishing and due to finding music on the net I went and bought a few CDs
that otherwise I wouldn't have even known about!
It is just stupid and I would like to see if it has hurt the selling
industry or if they are just wanting to gripe!



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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:39 PM
To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


Free or not, seems to me there should be a period where the owners of the
sites (Kazza and Winmx and others) would have to notify the users that
sharing is illegal. Not just make up a law and then arrest the masses.

BTW , I don't feel that paying for the opportunity to download music makes
it any more legal than a free site. The money collected doesn't go to the
artists. It goes to the owners of the site.

Why not just take the sites off the Net if it is illegal and don't mess with
the users. No site = no users.



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Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 12:30 PM
To: Pat Smoot; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
Discussion
List
Subject:Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

It is free, at least I haven't paid for it.  I believe
it is up to the site to warn people that it might be
illegal.  Is there a disclaimer there?  I haven't
noticed one.

RTR
LC
--- Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a
> couple of years now.  It
> isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone
> accountable except for
> Kazza since "your friend" is paying a fee for the
> music.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'BamaFanForever'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
> Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads  duh>
>
>
> > A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from
> sites like Kazza. My
> > 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get
> arrested and forced to
> > pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting
> words I could tell my
> > 'friend'?
> >
> > Story:
> > Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet
> Users
> > Saturday, July 19, 2003
> > WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least
> 871 federal subpoenas
> > against computer users suspected of illegally
> sharing music files (search)
> > on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas
> being approved each day,
> U.S.
> > court officials said Friday.
> > The effort represents early steps in the music
> industry's contentious plan
> > to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online
> piracy.
> > Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show
> the industry compelling
> some
> > of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon
> Communications Inc. and
> > Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some
> universities to identify names
> > and mailing addresses for users on their networks
> known online by
> nicknames
> > such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or
> "indepunk74."
> > The Recording Industry Association of America
> (search) has said it expects
> > to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking
> financial damages within
> > the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search)
> allow for damages of
> $750
> > to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a
> person's computer, but
> the
> > RIAA has said it would be open to settlement
> proposals from defendants.
> > The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals
> court rulings requiring
> > Internet providers to readily identify subscribers
> suspected of illegally
> > sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital
> Millennium Copyright Act
> > permits music companies to force Internet
> providers to turn over the names
> > of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any
> U.S. District Court
> > clerk's office, without a judge's signature
> required.
> > In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs
> as "representative
> > recordings" of music files available for
> downloading from these users. The
> > trade group for the largest music labels, the
> Washington-based RIAA,
> > previously indicated its lawyers would target
> Internet users who offer
> > substantial collections of MP3 song files but
> declined to say how many
> songs
> > might qualify for a lawsuit.
> > "

Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
Jo-El:

You should really direct these questions to the
all knowing Blobber. She has an extensive back-
ground in the music industry. Hell, she lives on Music Row...don'tcha know?
PLUS she is a graduate
of UCLA! If you don't believe me, just ask her.

Slef E.

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To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


> Free or not, seems to me there should be a period where the owners of the
> sites (Kazza and Winmx and others) would have to notify the users that
> sharing is illegal. Not just make up a law and then arrest the masses.
>
> BTW , I don't feel that paying for the opportunity to download music makes
> it any more legal than a free site. The money collected doesn't go to the
> artists. It goes to the owners of the site.
>
> Why not just take the sites off the Net if it is illegal and don't mess
with
> the users. No site = no users.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:30 PM
> To: Pat Smoot; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion
> List
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
> It is free, at least I haven't paid for it.  I believe
> it is up to the site to warn people that it might be
> illegal.  Is there a disclaimer there?  I haven't
> noticed one.
>
> RTR
> LC
> --- Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a
> > couple of years now.  It
> > isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone
> > accountable except for
> > Kazza since "your friend" is paying a fee for the
> > music.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'BamaFanForever'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
> > Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads  > duh>
> >
> >
> > > A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from
> > sites like Kazza. My
> > > 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get
> > arrested and forced to
> > > pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting
> > words I could tell my
> > > 'friend'?
> > >
> > > Story:
> > > Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet
> > Users
> > > Saturday, July 19, 2003
> > > WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least
> > 871 federal subpoenas
> > > against computer users suspected of illegally
> > sharing music files (search)
> > > on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas
> > being approved each day,
> > U.S.
> > > court officials said Friday.
> > > The effort represents early steps in the music
> > industry's contentious plan
> > > to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online
> > piracy.
> > > Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show
> > the industry compelling
> > some
> > > of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon
> > Communications Inc. and
> > > Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some
> > universities to identify names
> > > and mailing addresses for users on their networks
> > known online by
> > nicknames
> > > such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or
> > "indepunk74."
> > > The Recording Industry Association of America
> > (search) has said it expects
> > > to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking
> > financial damages within
> > > the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search)
> > allow for damages of
> > $750
> > > to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a
> > person's computer, but
> > the
> > > RIAA has said it would be open to settlement
> > proposals from defendants.
> > > The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals
> > court rulings requiring
> > > Internet providers to readily identify subscribers
> > suspected of illegally
> > > sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital
> > Millennium Copyright Act
> > > permits music companies to force Internet
> > providers to turn over the names
> > > of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any
> > U.S. District Court
> > > clerk's office, without a judge's signature
> > required.
> > > In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs
> > as "representative
> > > recordings" of music files available for
> > downloading from these users. The
> > > trade group for the largest music labels, the
> > Washington-based RIAA,
> > > previously indicated its lawyers would target
> > Internet users who offer
> > > substantial collections of MP3 song files but
> > declined to say how many
> > songs
> > > might qualify for a lawsuit.
> > > "We would have to look at historic trends, but
> > that is a very high
> > number,"
> > > said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and
> > Technology, a civil
> > > liberties group that has argued against the
> > subpoenas. "It doesn't sound
> > > like they're just going after a few big fish."
> > > Music fans a

Re: [RollTideFan] Price believes SI only got his 'name right'

2003-07-21 Thread Devonna Snuggs
Questions:

Didn't he say on the day of the firing he has some problems and he wants to
get help?  Weren't the reports saying he went straight to the bar when he
landed in FL?

Now, just give it up and go away!


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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Price believes SI only got his 'name right'


> http://espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/0719/1583088.html
>
> Price believes SI only got his 'name right'
> 
> ESPN.com
>
> Mike Price is still not sure why he was fired at the University of
Alabama.
>
> Price, who left Washington State after last season to coach the Crimson
> Tide, was fired May 3 by Alabama president Robert Witt after allegations
> arose about his conduct at a golf outing in Florida.
>
> He had a seven-year, $10 million contract on the table but didn't sign
> it before his termination.


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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Joel Perry
Free or not, seems to me there should be a period where the owners of the
sites (Kazza and Winmx and others) would have to notify the users that
sharing is illegal. Not just make up a law and then arrest the masses.

BTW , I don't feel that paying for the opportunity to download music makes
it any more legal than a free site. The money collected doesn't go to the
artists. It goes to the owners of the site.

Why not just take the sites off the Net if it is illegal and don't mess with
the users. No site = no users.



-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Steven Johnson
Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 12:30 PM
To: Pat Smoot; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion
List
Subject:Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

It is free, at least I haven't paid for it.  I believe
it is up to the site to warn people that it might be
illegal.  Is there a disclaimer there?  I haven't
noticed one.

RTR
LC
--- Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a
> couple of years now.  It
> isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone
> accountable except for
> Kazza since "your friend" is paying a fee for the
> music.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'BamaFanForever'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
> Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads  duh>
>
>
> > A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from
> sites like Kazza. My
> > 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get
> arrested and forced to
> > pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting
> words I could tell my
> > 'friend'?
> >
> > Story:
> > Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet
> Users
> > Saturday, July 19, 2003
> > WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least
> 871 federal subpoenas
> > against computer users suspected of illegally
> sharing music files (search)
> > on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas
> being approved each day,
> U.S.
> > court officials said Friday.
> > The effort represents early steps in the music
> industry's contentious plan
> > to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online
> piracy.
> > Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show
> the industry compelling
> some
> > of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon
> Communications Inc. and
> > Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some
> universities to identify names
> > and mailing addresses for users on their networks
> known online by
> nicknames
> > such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or
> "indepunk74."
> > The Recording Industry Association of America
> (search) has said it expects
> > to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking
> financial damages within
> > the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search)
> allow for damages of
> $750
> > to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a
> person's computer, but
> the
> > RIAA has said it would be open to settlement
> proposals from defendants.
> > The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals
> court rulings requiring
> > Internet providers to readily identify subscribers
> suspected of illegally
> > sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital
> Millennium Copyright Act
> > permits music companies to force Internet
> providers to turn over the names
> > of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any
> U.S. District Court
> > clerk's office, without a judge's signature
> required.
> > In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs
> as "representative
> > recordings" of music files available for
> downloading from these users. The
> > trade group for the largest music labels, the
> Washington-based RIAA,
> > previously indicated its lawyers would target
> Internet users who offer
> > substantial collections of MP3 song files but
> declined to say how many
> songs
> > might qualify for a lawsuit.
> > "We would have to look at historic trends, but
> that is a very high
> number,"
> > said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and
> Technology, a civil
> > liberties group that has argued against the
> subpoenas. "It doesn't sound
> > like they're just going after a few big fish."
> > Music fans are fighting back with technology,
> using new software designed
> > specifically to stymie monitoring of their online
> activities by the major
> > record labels.
> > A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that
> provides access to the
> > service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can
> prevent anyone from listing
> > all music files on an individual's machine and
> purports to block scans
> from
> > Internet addresses believed to be associated with
> the RIAA.
> > Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP
> identified songs from the same
> few
> > artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and
> Michael Jackson. It was
> > impossible to determine whether industry lawyers
> were searching the
> Internet
> > specifically 

Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Steven Johnson
It is free, at least I haven't paid for it.  I believe
it is up to the site to warn people that it might be
illegal.  Is there a disclaimer there?  I haven't
noticed one.

RTR
LC
--- Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a
> couple of years now.  It
> isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone
> accountable except for
> Kazza since "your friend" is paying a fee for the
> music.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'BamaFanForever'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
> Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads  duh>
> 
> 
> > A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from
> sites like Kazza. My
> > 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get
> arrested and forced to
> > pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting
> words I could tell my
> > 'friend'?
> >
> > Story:
> > Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet
> Users
> > Saturday, July 19, 2003
> > WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least
> 871 federal subpoenas
> > against computer users suspected of illegally
> sharing music files (search)
> > on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas
> being approved each day,
> U.S.
> > court officials said Friday.
> > The effort represents early steps in the music
> industry's contentious plan
> > to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online
> piracy.
> > Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show
> the industry compelling
> some
> > of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon
> Communications Inc. and
> > Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some
> universities to identify names
> > and mailing addresses for users on their networks
> known online by
> nicknames
> > such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or
> "indepunk74."
> > The Recording Industry Association of America
> (search) has said it expects
> > to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking
> financial damages within
> > the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search)
> allow for damages of
> $750
> > to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a
> person's computer, but
> the
> > RIAA has said it would be open to settlement
> proposals from defendants.
> > The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals
> court rulings requiring
> > Internet providers to readily identify subscribers
> suspected of illegally
> > sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital
> Millennium Copyright Act
> > permits music companies to force Internet
> providers to turn over the names
> > of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any
> U.S. District Court
> > clerk's office, without a judge's signature
> required.
> > In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs
> as "representative
> > recordings" of music files available for
> downloading from these users. The
> > trade group for the largest music labels, the
> Washington-based RIAA,
> > previously indicated its lawyers would target
> Internet users who offer
> > substantial collections of MP3 song files but
> declined to say how many
> songs
> > might qualify for a lawsuit.
> > "We would have to look at historic trends, but
> that is a very high
> number,"
> > said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and
> Technology, a civil
> > liberties group that has argued against the
> subpoenas. "It doesn't sound
> > like they're just going after a few big fish."
> > Music fans are fighting back with technology,
> using new software designed
> > specifically to stymie monitoring of their online
> activities by the major
> > record labels.
> > A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that
> provides access to the
> > service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can
> prevent anyone from listing
> > all music files on an individual's machine and
> purports to block scans
> from
> > Internet addresses believed to be associated with
> the RIAA.
> > Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP
> identified songs from the same
> few
> > artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and
> Michael Jackson. It was
> > impossible to determine whether industry lawyers
> were searching the
> Internet
> > specifically for songs by these artists or whether
> they were commonly
> > popular among the roughly 60 million users of
> file-sharing services.
> > The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S.
> District Court in
> > Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has
> been forced to reassign
> > employees from elsewhere in the clerk's office to
> help process paperwork,
> > said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations
> manager.
> > The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of
> subpoenas it issued.
> > "We are identifying substantial infringers and
> we're going to whatever
> > entity is providing (Internet) service for that
> potential infringer," said
> > Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president
> of business and legal
> > affairs. "From there we'll be in a position to
> b

Re: [RollTideFan] Whose Gonna Win The West?

2003-07-21 Thread Steven Johnson
I agree Rick, UPig returns more starters than Allbarn,
Nutt owns Wingnutt and they play at Fayetteville, yet
the Barn is a big favorite.  Here's what I think.

1. Upig- with another UGA loss in Atlanta
2. Allbarn- Wingnut blows one or two as usual
3. Bama- Could be higher with fast start
4. LSwho- Always overrated, not sold on Mauck
5. Old Myth- Eli could make them higher with decent D.
6. MooSU- Based on the last two years, but could
surprise

RTR
LC
--- Ricky McMahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The piggies may make a run. They do have an
> experienced squad returning 
> (9 on offense and 8 on defense from a 9-5 2002
> team).
> 
> Rick
> 
> Jason Houston wrote:
> > The West, if Fran had stayed, and UA had a
> seamless off-season:
> > 
> > 1. Alabama
> > 2. Auburn (really tie AU and UA at 1-1, coming
> down to the UA/AU game)
> > 3. LSU
> > 4. Arkansas
> > 5. Ole Miss
> > 6. MSU
> > 
> > The West, as I see it now:
> > 
> > 1. Auburn
> > 2. LSU
> > 3. Arkansas
> > 4. Alabama
> > 5. Ole Miss
> > 6. MSU
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ricky McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "RollTideFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:09 PM
> > Subject: [RollTideFan] Whose Gonna Win The West?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>My guess; the Bengal Tiggers, they're loaded with
> talent, probably have
> >>the best coaching staff of anyone in the west,
> they have a favorable
> >>home schedule (toughest away games are South
> Carolina and Alabama). I
> >>look for the Tiggers to probably win the SEC and
> land in a BCS game.
> >>Here's the way Ricky Mac sees the West shake down…
> >>
> >>1) LSU
> >>2) Aub
> >>3) Bama
> >>4) Ole Miss
> >>5) Arkansas
> >>6) MSU
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets

2003-07-21 Thread Steven Johnson
Pat, go to RollTide.com and sign up as if you are
buying and it will show exactly where the seats are,
and last year there was a choice of a couple of
sections.  I bought tix to two games and don't
remember being in the nosebleed section for either.

RTR
LC 
--- Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know, but it's highly unlikely that I can get 6
> together that aren't 40
> thousand feet in the air.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "kurt rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
> Discussion List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Tickets
> 
> 
> > Pat Smoot wrote:
> >
> > > I am in need of 6 tickets together for the usf
> game.  If anyone knows
> > > of any please let me know.  I have a problem
> with heights so no nose
> > > bleed seats please.
> >
> > On sale next Saturday.  10 AM.
> >
> > http://www.rolltide.com/Football/8609.asp
> >
> > 4.  Single game tickets, priced at $30, for the
> following:
> >
> > South Florida (August 30)
> > Kentucky (September 13)
> > Northern Illinois (September 20)
> > Arkansas (September 27)
> > Southern Miss (October 11)
> >
> > kurt
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Joel Perry
Heck naw, they're still amazed that you can actually download music via the
Internet.

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Laborde
Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 11:05 AM
To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

Did your girlfriend Blobber and her gang of retards give you any help?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:50 AM
To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 



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>>>To: "'BamaFanForever'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"'RollTideFan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
> A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My
> 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced
> to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell
> my 'friend'?

L




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Re: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot
He didn't have a side of the story.  He was too damn drunk to remember,
remember?

- Original Message -
From: "Devan Orange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview


> Personally, I think he should have had the chance to tell his side of the
> story.
> JMO..
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 7:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview
>
>
> Here's the transcript if you didn't see it.
>
>
> http://msn.espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/0719/1583088.html
>
>
> Sunday, July 20, 2003
> Price believes SI only got his 'name right'
> ESPN.com
>
> Mike Price is still not sure why he was fired at the University of
Alabama.
>
> Price, who left Washington State after last season to coach the Crimson
> Tide, was fired May 3 by Alabama president Robert Witt after allegations
> arose about his conduct at a golf outing in Florida.
>
> He had a seven-year, $10 million contract on the table but didn't sign it
> before his termination.
>
> Price has sued Alabama for $20 million, claiming due process was denied,
his
> civil rights were violated, breach of contract, wrongful termination and
> fraud.
>
> He has also sued Time Inc. for $20 million, stating he was defamed by a
> Sports Illustrated article about the strip club visit that led to his
> ouster.
>
> Price addressed his firing and what happened at the golf outing in this
> week's Sunday Conversation. Below is the transcript:
>
> Q: So what happened -- how did we get to this place?
> A: Well, you know, I had too much to drink one night and ended up at a
> topless bar and made a serious mistake and admitted my mistake.
>
> Q: Is that a problem for you? Is alcohol a problem for you?
> A: No, it's created a problem for me. I don't drink during the season at
> all. Haven't drank during the season for 20 years. It's just something I
> wouldn't do. But the drinking that night caused a problem for me there's
no
> question about that.
>
> Q: There's certainly nothing illegal about topless ...
> A: There's nothing, I did nothing illegal or illicit the whole night.
Again,
> I'd had too many drinks and made a mistake by going there, no question
about
> that.
>
> Q: Were you surprised that people recognized you?
> A: As evening went on there weren't many people that recognized me there.
I
> was very quiet and sat at the end of the bar. With a friend and that was
> that.
>
> Q: So there was none of this -- no lap dances?
> A: No. I wasn't. I know exactly how much money I spent at that bar and it
> was nowhere close to what was reported at SI and all those reports -- were
> supposedly all those things happened during the day and I came back at
> night, well, I was at Alabama until -- my plane didn't get to Florida
until
> 5 p.m. and then went right to the dinner.
>
> Q: A lot of stories have been out there -- Sports Illustrated -- how much
of
> what they reported was wrong and?
> A: Well they got my name right. That's about the only thing they got right
> in that story. And it was, I told the author, the writer of the story on
the
> phone where he was completely off-base. I wasn't even in the state of
> Florida when he was making, when some of the girls were making accusations
> that they were making. I told him you know he was way off base with this
> story but he printed it anyway even though he had facts, other facts, he
> printed it. It was just ridiculous what was printed. There was no two,
three
> women in my room. That didn't happen.
>
> Q: Was there a woman?
> A: Yes, there was a woman that came with me, followed me from the last
place
> that we were at and came into my room. I fell asleep. I woke up the next
day
> in my clothes with my glasses on and was surprised to see her still in my
> room. So I just, it was early, I had a golf tournament. It was early in
the
> morning. I was embarrassed, got out of there, got dressed and left.
>
> Q: And you had to be really afraid at that time or were you?
> A: Yeah, oh yeah I was. It was, I hadn't done anything like that before
and
> I didn't know where to go or where to turn to and um, but um, my wife and
> family have been great. And I did, at that time then, a few days later,
did
> talk with Mal Moore, AD at Alabama and we went in -- and that's about the
> first conversation I've had with the president. When we talked about the
> situation and he said you're a good man you're caught in a bad situation,
> we'll help you through this. And at previous conversations through the
week,
> he even said I've talked with your former bosses at WSU and they can't say
> enough good things about you so we're going to help you through this.
>
> Q: And then their answer was ...
> A: Was termination. They said let's wait for a week and I wasn't allowed
to
> say a

Re: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview

2003-07-21 Thread Jenny H.
I have no problem with him having a hearing, but the university
faculty review board said no. I have a severe problem with him
now saying that he doesn't know why he was fired. Give me a
freaking break.
Jenny

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> Personally, I think he should have had the chance to tell his side of the
> story.
> JMO..
>


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RE: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview

2003-07-21 Thread Devan Orange
Personally, I think he should have had the chance to tell his side of the
story.
JMO..

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Subject: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview


Here's the transcript if you didn't see it. 


http://msn.espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/0719/1583088.html


Sunday, July 20, 2003
Price believes SI only got his 'name right'
ESPN.com

Mike Price is still not sure why he was fired at the University of Alabama.

Price, who left Washington State after last season to coach the Crimson
Tide, was fired May 3 by Alabama president Robert Witt after allegations
arose about his conduct at a golf outing in Florida.

He had a seven-year, $10 million contract on the table but didn't sign it
before his termination.

Price has sued Alabama for $20 million, claiming due process was denied, his
civil rights were violated, breach of contract, wrongful termination and
fraud.

He has also sued Time Inc. for $20 million, stating he was defamed by a
Sports Illustrated article about the strip club visit that led to his
ouster.

Price addressed his firing and what happened at the golf outing in this
week's Sunday Conversation. Below is the transcript:

Q: So what happened -- how did we get to this place?
A: Well, you know, I had too much to drink one night and ended up at a
topless bar and made a serious mistake and admitted my mistake.

Q: Is that a problem for you? Is alcohol a problem for you?
A: No, it's created a problem for me. I don't drink during the season at
all. Haven't drank during the season for 20 years. It's just something I
wouldn't do. But the drinking that night caused a problem for me there's no
question about that.

Q: There's certainly nothing illegal about topless ...
A: There's nothing, I did nothing illegal or illicit the whole night. Again,
I'd had too many drinks and made a mistake by going there, no question about
that.

Q: Were you surprised that people recognized you?
A: As evening went on there weren't many people that recognized me there. I
was very quiet and sat at the end of the bar. With a friend and that was
that.

Q: So there was none of this -- no lap dances?
A: No. I wasn't. I know exactly how much money I spent at that bar and it
was nowhere close to what was reported at SI and all those reports -- were
supposedly all those things happened during the day and I came back at
night, well, I was at Alabama until -- my plane didn't get to Florida until
5 p.m. and then went right to the dinner.

Q: A lot of stories have been out there -- Sports Illustrated -- how much of
what they reported was wrong and?
A: Well they got my name right. That's about the only thing they got right
in that story. And it was, I told the author, the writer of the story on the
phone where he was completely off-base. I wasn't even in the state of
Florida when he was making, when some of the girls were making accusations
that they were making. I told him you know he was way off base with this
story but he printed it anyway even though he had facts, other facts, he
printed it. It was just ridiculous what was printed. There was no two, three
women in my room. That didn't happen.

Q: Was there a woman?
A: Yes, there was a woman that came with me, followed me from the last place
that we were at and came into my room. I fell asleep. I woke up the next day
in my clothes with my glasses on and was surprised to see her still in my
room. So I just, it was early, I had a golf tournament. It was early in the
morning. I was embarrassed, got out of there, got dressed and left.

Q: And you had to be really afraid at that time or were you?
A: Yeah, oh yeah I was. It was, I hadn't done anything like that before and
I didn't know where to go or where to turn to and um, but um, my wife and
family have been great. And I did, at that time then, a few days later, did
talk with Mal Moore, AD at Alabama and we went in -- and that's about the
first conversation I've had with the president. When we talked about the
situation and he said you're a good man you're caught in a bad situation,
we'll help you through this. And at previous conversations through the week,
he even said I've talked with your former bosses at WSU and they can't say
enough good things about you so we're going to help you through this.

Q: And then their answer was ...
A: Was termination. They said let's wait for a week and I wasn't allowed to
say anything to press or say my side of story and I was just waiting for the
Board of Trustees meeting and that became a media circus. My wife was asked
to come, and my boys they got up and spoke and some players on team got up
and spoke on my behalf and then my wife and I waited for three hours for
Board of Trustees outside in hallway. And then when they adjourned, I didn't
even realize they'd adjourned, they just said it was a potty break, no
decisions have been made yet. And President Witt went to the m

Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
HA! HA! HA! HA!

Goot Won Javier!

Slef E.

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> Did your girlfriend Blobber and her gang of retards give you any help?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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Behalf Of Jeff Todd
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:50 AM
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>
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>
> - Original Message -
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>
>
>
> >>>To: "'BamaFanForever'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"'RollTideFan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
> Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
> > A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My
> > 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced
> > to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell
> > my 'friend'?
>
> L
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Re: [RollTideFan] Fw: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can only hurtAlabama

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd
Oh, OK! Maybe I need to start by posting in
HTML! BEOTCH!

Love,

Sleffie

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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Fw: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can only hurt
Alabama


Consider it done.  Feel free to make an ass out of yourslef.


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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can only hurt Alabama


Let's move this discussion to RTF.

JrT

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> I'm sure you're as tight & firm as you were 20 years ago.  Right?
>
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>   No shit! What ever happened to all the big
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>   Slef E.
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RE: [RollTideFan] Fw: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can onlyhurtAlabama

2003-07-21 Thread Mike Laborde
Why bring this silly HTML, BamaHyphenFans shit here?


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Consider it done.  Feel free to make an ass out of yourslef.


- Original Message - 
From: Jeff Todd 

Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:45 AM
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Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd

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From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


> Gee-Zuss!
>
> WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download
sites
> would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
> allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a
law
> and then made it retro-active.
>
> C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.

Deere Jo-El:

You are a dumbass. Kazza DID warn you, Muleron!
If you had read the 112 page EULA you'd have known
that at some point in time you were going to get butt-
fruked! Wait a minute...you probably DID READ that
part! Oh well, squeal like a pig, boy!

HTH,

Slef E.


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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Mike Laborde
Did your girlfriend Blobber and her gang of retards give you any help?



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>>>To: "'BamaFanForever'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
> A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 
> 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced 
> to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell 
> my 'friend'?

L




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[RollTideFan] Fw: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can only hurtAlabama

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot



Consider it done.  Feel free to make an ass 
out of yourslef.
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Jeff 
Todd 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can only hurt 
Alabama
Let's move this discussion to RTF.JrT- 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: 
Monday, July 21, 2003 7:10 AMSubject: Re: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can 
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PM>   Subject: Re: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can only hurt 
Alabama>>>   No shit! What ever happened to all 
the big>   tits and tight asses of 20 years 
ago?>>   Slef E.>>   - 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>   To: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>   Sent: Sunday, July 20, 
2003 8:20 PM>   Subject: Re: [BamaFans] Randy Kennedy: Suit can 
only hurt Alabama>>>   > I figure you wimmen 
have them inadequate feeling most time>   > you open any 
magazineesp. your wimmin's magazines.or watchmost 
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Re: [RollTideFan] FHCDF and FHCMP house

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot
Dream home hell!  That place is haunted.


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Subject: [RollTideFan] FHCDF and FHCMP house


>
http://www.dreamhometour.com/homeview.asp?SectionID=3&MlsNum=33260&secondary
=False&IDX=False&CurrentAgentID=1585&CurrentBrokerCode=HAMNER#
>
> Somebody asked.  I donut remember who.
>
> kurt
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Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Jeff Todd

- Original Message -
From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'BamaFanForever'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RollTideFan'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


> A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My
> 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to
> pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my
> 'friend'?

LIE

DENY

ALIBI


Slef E.


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[RollTideFan] FHCDF and FHCMP house

2003-07-21 Thread kr10
http://www.dreamhometour.com/homeview.asp?SectionID=3&MlsNum=33260&secondary=False&IDX=False&CurrentAgentID=1585&CurrentBrokerCode=HAMNER#

Somebody asked.  I donut remember who.

kurt


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Re: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
I tell the truth

ScR
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Sent: 07/21/03 10:15 AM
To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

> 
> Scott, why type of law do you practice?  Do you give your clients that same
warm fuzzy feeling of protection?


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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


> U R screwed
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---Original Message---
> From: Joel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM
> To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
> >
> > Gee-Zuss!
>
> WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download
> sites
> would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given
and
> allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a
> law
> and then made it retro-active.
>
> C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B
> Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM
> To:   'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
> Subject:   RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
> I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me
time.
> He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it
> was
> just to scare them at first.
> -Original Message-
> From:   Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM
> To:   'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
> Subject:   RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
>
> How much and how did they determine the fine?
>
>
>
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Re: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
Butt, butt, butt youaxed for an opinion. Then you don't like the answer and now my 
chillin won't have no school shoes...

ScR
---Original Message---
From: Joel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 07/21/03 10:10 AM
To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

> 
> No more bizness 4 you then!!!

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Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 10:59 AM
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Subject:Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

U R screwed

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Joel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM
To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

>
> Gee-Zuss!

WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download
sites
would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a
law
and then made it retro-active.

C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.

-Original Message-
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On
Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B
Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM
To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time.
He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it
was
just to scare them at first.
-Original Message-
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To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


How much and how did they determine the fine?



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RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Yates, QM1-William B
Well at least he put it plane and simple, not butt shitting 
around the tree.

Will

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Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


Scott, why type of law do you practice?  Do you give your clients that same
warm fuzzy feeling of protection?


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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:58 AM
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> U R screwed
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---Original Message---
> From: Joel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM
> To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
> >
> > Gee-Zuss!
>
> WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download
> sites
> would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
> allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a
> law
> and then made it retro-active.
>
> C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B
> Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM
> To:   'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
> Subject:   RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
> I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time.
> He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it
> was
> just to scare them at first.
> -Original Message-
> From:   Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM
> To:   'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
> Subject:   RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
>
> How much and how did they determine the fine?
>
>
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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot
Scott, why type of law do you practice?  Do you give your clients that same
warm fuzzy feeling of protection?


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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


> U R screwed
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---Original Message---
> From: Joel Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM
> To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
> >
> > Gee-Zuss!
>
> WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download
> sites
> would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
> allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a
> law
> and then made it retro-active.
>
> C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.
>
> -Original Message-
> From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B
> Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM
> To:   'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
> Subject:   RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
> I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time.
> He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it
> was
> just to scare them at first.
> -Original Message-
> From:   Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM
> To:   'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List'
> Subject:   RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 
>
>
> How much and how did they determine the fine?
>
>
>
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RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Joel Perry
No more bizness 4 you then!!!

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U R screwed

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>
> Gee-Zuss!

WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download
sites
would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a
law
and then made it retro-active.

C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.

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I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time.
He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it
was
just to scare them at first.
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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread kr10

When I had Kaaza on my machine I had it set not to share any files.  I only used it to 
download.  Not share.  The article you quoted sounded like they are going after the 
folks who share the songs.  

If I were your friend, I would save my mp3 files to a new folder and uninstall/delete 
the program until all this blows over. 

ymmv

kurt


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Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread atticusjd
U R screwed

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> 
> Gee-Zuss!

WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download
sites
would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a
law
and then made it retro-active.

C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.

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Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time.
He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it
was
just to scare them at first.
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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Yates, QM1-William B
I couldn't believe it at first either, I thought he 
bull shitting me. and you know if you a service member
hell they already have you. they will dock your wages and
sorts of crap. I almost started doing that Kazza stuff, but when
heard that. I locked up on that. 

Will 

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Gee-Zuss!

WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites
would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law
and then made it retro-active.

C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.

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Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B
Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM
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Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time.
He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was
just to scare them at first.
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From:   Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Joel Perry
Gee-Zuss!

WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites
would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and
allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law
and then made it retro-active.

C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook.

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Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM
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Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 

I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time.
He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was
just to scare them at first.
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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Yates, QM1-William B
I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me 
time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that
I'm sure it was just to scare them at first.

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From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How much and how did they determine the fine?

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I got a AirForce friend of mine that they did fine.
holy crap batman what a fine.:-o




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[RollTideFan] things (non)

2003-07-21 Thread Devonna Snuggs
1- I want to say thanks to SusieQ.  I met her roommate in Nashville (on my
way to LouisvilleKY) on Saturday.  She bought some of the raffle tickets I
have for Alabama/TN tickets.

2-Did I miss a sign in Nashville that said people have to drive 4 wide,
going 40 mph on 65N, thereby  not allowing anyone to get around them?

3-WTF is up w/ all the left-laners in TN/KY?  I thought they were bad in AL
but geez it is much worse in TN/KY

4-There are lots of barns in KY - WOW, lots of barns!  Beautiful scenery

5-I went to the Corvette Museum on my way home Sunday - too cool  I
bought my husband a Corvette :)  Really, I did.  Silver. You can pop the
hood and open the doors.  I am sure our son will enjoy it one day.

6-I saw the infamous stadium where Louisville beat FSU in the pouring down
rain.  Man, is it ever close to the interstate, you can throw a rock and hit
it from 65!

7-I have a picture of my son, Will, in his Alabama stuff (finally) but can't
share with you (Sorry Jamie) b/c I don't know how to do that loading things
to the message board and linking it!

That's all!  Have a great day!

RTR!!! How many days to kick off?

Devonna


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RE: [RollTideFan] FICMP interview

2003-07-21 Thread Charles S. Mims
If he is so stupid he doesn't know the reasons for his termination then he
isn't fit to be a coach in the first place.  He knows exactly why he was
terminated, conduct unbecoming a representative of the University.  Does
anyone really buy that story he just woke up and she was there?
Rigtand OJ didn't kill that woman. 


Charles Mims
The SandBox
http://www.the-sandbox.org 


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Here's the transcript if you didn't see it. 


http://msn.espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/0719/1583088.html


Sunday, July 20, 2003
Price believes SI only got his 'name right'
ESPN.com

Mike Price is still not sure why he was fired at the University of Alabama.



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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Joel Perry
How much and how did they determine the fine?

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I got a AirForce friend of mine that they did fine.
holy crap batman what a fine.:-o




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Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot
My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a couple of years now.  It
isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone accountable except for
Kazza since "your friend" is paying a fee for the music.


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Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


> A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My
> 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to
> pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my
> 'friend'?
>
> Story:
> Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users
> Saturday, July 19, 2003
> WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas
> against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search)
> on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day,
U.S.
> court officials said Friday.
> The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan
> to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy.
> Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling
some
> of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and
> Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names
> and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by
nicknames
> such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."
> The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects
> to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within
> the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of
$750
> to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but
the
> RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants.
> The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring
> Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally
> sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act
> permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names
> of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court
> clerk's office, without a judge's signature required.
> In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as "representative
> recordings" of music files available for downloading from these users. The
> trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA,
> previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer
> substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many
songs
> might qualify for a lawsuit.
> "We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high
number,"
> said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil
> liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. "It doesn't sound
> like they're just going after a few big fish."
> Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed
> specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major
> record labels.
> A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that provides access to the
> service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing
> all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans
from
> Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA.
> Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same
few
> artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was
> impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the
Internet
> specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly
> popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services.
> The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S. District Court in
> Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has been forced to reassign
> employees from elsewhere in the clerk's office to help process paperwork,
> said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations manager.
> The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of subpoenas it issued.
> "We are identifying substantial infringers and we're going to whatever
> entity is providing (Internet) service for that potential infringer," said
> Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president of business and legal
> affairs. "From there we'll be in a position to begin bringing lawsuits."
> A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the
> clerk's office here was "functioning more like a clearing house, issuing
> subpoenas for all over the country." Any civil lawsuits would likely be
> transferred to a different jurisdiction, spokeswoman Karen Redmond said.
> Verizon, which has fought the RIAA over the subpoenas with continued legal
> appeals, said it received at least 150 subpoenas during the last two
weeks.
> There were no subpoenas on 

[RollTideFan] Shula Eager

2003-07-21 Thread Ricky McMahan
Top of the morning and ROLL TIDE!
Rick
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/NEWS/StorySportswj21shula.htm

Shula eager to get players on field

By Tim Gayle
Montgomery Advertiser
After racing through June and July at a maddening pace, Alabama coach 
Mike Shula figures his first steps on Thomas-Drew Field for the Crimson 
Tide's first practice on Aug. 5 will be a return to normalcy.

"Our summer has been a unique summer," said Shula, who was hired as 
Alabama's head coach on May 8 in the wake of former coach Mike Price's 
firing. "I think things will calm down for us once practice starts."

In his first appearance in front of a large gathering since being 
formally introduced as Alabama's head coach on May 9, Shula spoke to 
more than 300 coaches gathered for the seventh annual Alabama All-Stars 
Sports Week coaches' convention at the Montgomery Civic Center on 
Saturday morning.

Unlike his May 9 introduction, when the new coach got off to a rocky 
start in the opening moments of his speech to a packed room and a 
statewide television audience, Shula appeared comfortable and at ease 
with the state's high school coaches. He spoke on developing 
quarterbacks -- something he saw first-hand by watching his father, Don, 
lead the Miami Dolphins when he was a youngster. He was quarterbacks 
coach of the Dolphins before he took the Alabama job.

Many of his demonstrations were computer generated, although he included 
a few clips of Dolphins' games and a couple from the Tampa Bay 
Buccaneers, where he got his first coaching job in 1988 and returned as 
an offensive coordinator in the late 1990s.

One of his topics, "Gaining an Edge on Your Opponents," will certainly 
be of interest to Alabama players and fans this fall. Shula will attempt 
to improve on last year's 10-3 season without benefit of a spring 
practice. Three tips to accomplish that edge included watching film, 
practicing on your own and working on your weaknesses.

Shula brought his offensive assistants to the meeting and introduced 
offensive line coach Bob Connelly, receivers coach Charlie Harbison, 
offensive coordinator Dave Rader, running backs coach Sparky Woods and 
tight ends coach Dave Ungerer, who also handles the special teams.

The defensive staff, Shula said, visited with the coaches earlier this week.

He opened his speech by talking briefly about the South's 17-10 win over 
the North from Friday night's all-star game, showing a little knowledge 
and appreciation for the work accomplished by the state's high school 
coaches.

"You hear so much about the programs around here," he said after his 
presentation. "They do such a good job, which is evident by the kids 
they send us. You want to see the guys that are responsible for doing that."

While many college coaches have not always embraced the high school 
coaches convention -- Price, in fact, turned down an opportunity to 
speak to the group -- Shula seemed to enjoy talking to the coaches 
individually. Many of them included former Alabama players turned head 
coaches such as Stanhope Elmore's Jeff Foshee, Aliceville's Maurice 
Belser and Oneonta's Josh Niblett.

"The more guys that are involved in coaching football can get together, 
the more it's going to help football in general in this state," Shula 
said. "We all want to be as good as we can be. We've got a chance to 
meet with coaches and exchange ideas. That's going to make us all better."

Several members of Shula's coaching staff were on vacation last week and 
the new coach spent this week going over some final summer plans for the 
upcoming season.

"We finalized our training camp schedule," Shula said. "I think from 
about Wednesday on, everything will kind of get back to normal."

Of course, there's nothing normal about August practice, especially for 
a coach who didn't get the opportunity to spend the spring with his 
team. One thing that will be normal for Shula, however, will be the 
opportunity to interact with his players, something NCAA guidelines 
prohibit during the summer.

"We're all looking forward to getting our first chance out there with 
the players," he said. "We've got to find out in a hurry who we want to 
get the ball to offensively. And defensively, who are going to be the 
guys who are going to make the big plays? Who is going to be 
accountable? That goes for special teams, also. In all of those areas, 
we have to make quick decisions without (the benefit of) a spring practice."
Tim Gayle can be reached at (334) 240-0194 or by fax at (334) 261-1548.



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RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Yates, QM1-William B
I got a AirForce friend of mine that they did fine.
holy crap batman what a fine.:-o 

-Original Message-
From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM
To: 'BamaFanForever'; 'RollTideFan'
Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads 


A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My
'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to
pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my
'friend'?

Story:
Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users
Saturday, July 19, 2003
WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas
against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search)
on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S.
court officials said Friday.
The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan
to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy.
Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some
of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and
Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names
and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames
such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."
The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects
to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within
the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750
to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the
RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants.
The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring
Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally
sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act
permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names
of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court
clerk's office, without a judge's signature required.
In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as "representative
recordings" of music files available for downloading from these users. The
trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA,
previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer
substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs
might qualify for a lawsuit.
"We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number,"
said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil
liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. "It doesn't sound
like they're just going after a few big fish."
Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed
specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major
record labels.
A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that provides access to the
service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing
all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from
Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA.
Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same few
artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was
impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the Internet
specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly
popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services.
The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S. District Court in
Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has been forced to reassign
employees from elsewhere in the clerk's office to help process paperwork,
said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations manager.
The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of subpoenas it issued.
"We are identifying substantial infringers and we're going to whatever
entity is providing (Internet) service for that potential infringer," said
Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president of business and legal
affairs. "From there we'll be in a position to begin bringing lawsuits."
A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the
clerk's office here was "functioning more like a clearing house, issuing
subpoenas for all over the country." Any civil lawsuits would likely be
transferred to a different jurisdiction, spokeswoman Karen Redmond said.
Verizon, which has fought the RIAA over the subpoenas with continued legal
appeals, said it received at least 150 subpoenas during the last two weeks.
There were no subpoenas on file sent to AOL Time Warner Inc., the nation's
largest Internet provider and also parent company of Warner Music Group.
Earthlink Inc., another of the largest Internet providers, said it has
received only three new subpoenas.
Depaul University in Chicago was among the few colleges that received s

[RollTideFan] Music Downloads

2003-07-21 Thread Joel Perry
A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My
'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to
pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my
'friend'?

Story:
Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users
Saturday, July 19, 2003
WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas
against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search)
on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S.
court officials said Friday.
The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan
to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy.
Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some
of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and
Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names
and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames
such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."
The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects
to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within
the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750
to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the
RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants.
The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring
Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally
sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act
permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names
of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court
clerk's office, without a judge's signature required.
In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as "representative
recordings" of music files available for downloading from these users. The
trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA,
previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer
substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs
might qualify for a lawsuit.
"We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number,"
said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil
liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. "It doesn't sound
like they're just going after a few big fish."
Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed
specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major
record labels.
A new version of "Kazaa Lite," free software that provides access to the
service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing
all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from
Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA.
Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same few
artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was
impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the Internet
specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly
popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services.
The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S. District Court in
Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has been forced to reassign
employees from elsewhere in the clerk's office to help process paperwork,
said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations manager.
The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of subpoenas it issued.
"We are identifying substantial infringers and we're going to whatever
entity is providing (Internet) service for that potential infringer," said
Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president of business and legal
affairs. "From there we'll be in a position to begin bringing lawsuits."
A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the
clerk's office here was "functioning more like a clearing house, issuing
subpoenas for all over the country." Any civil lawsuits would likely be
transferred to a different jurisdiction, spokeswoman Karen Redmond said.
Verizon, which has fought the RIAA over the subpoenas with continued legal
appeals, said it received at least 150 subpoenas during the last two weeks.
There were no subpoenas on file sent to AOL Time Warner Inc., the nation's
largest Internet provider and also parent company of Warner Music Group.
Earthlink Inc., another of the largest Internet providers, said it has
received only three new subpoenas.
Depaul University in Chicago was among the few colleges that received such
subpoenas; the RIAA asked Depaul on July 2 to track down a user known as
"anon39023" who was allegedly offering at least eight songs.
There was some evidence the threat of an expensive lawsuit was discouraging
online music sharing. Nielsen NetRatings, which monitors 

[RollTideFan] FICMP interview

2003-07-21 Thread kr10
Here's the transcript if you didn't see it. 


http://msn.espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/0719/1583088.html


Sunday, July 20, 2003
Price believes SI only got his 'name right'
ESPN.com

Mike Price is still not sure why he was fired at the University of Alabama.

Price, who left Washington State after last season to coach the Crimson Tide, was 
fired May 3 by Alabama president Robert Witt after allegations arose about his conduct 
at a golf outing in Florida.

He had a seven-year, $10 million contract on the table but didn't sign it before his 
termination.

Price has sued Alabama for $20 million, claiming due process was denied, his civil 
rights were violated, breach of contract, wrongful termination and fraud.

He has also sued Time Inc. for $20 million, stating he was defamed by a Sports 
Illustrated article about the strip club visit that led to his ouster.

Price addressed his firing and what happened at the golf outing in this week's Sunday 
Conversation. Below is the transcript:

Q: So what happened -- how did we get to this place?
A: Well, you know, I had too much to drink one night and ended up at a topless bar and 
made a serious mistake and admitted my mistake.

Q: Is that a problem for you? Is alcohol a problem for you?
A: No, it's created a problem for me. I don't drink during the season at all. Haven't 
drank during the season for 20 years. It's just something I wouldn't do. But the 
drinking that night caused a problem for me there's no question about that.

Q: There's certainly nothing illegal about topless ...
A: There's nothing, I did nothing illegal or illicit the whole night. Again, I'd had 
too many drinks and made a mistake by going there, no question about that.

Q: Were you surprised that people recognized you?
A: As evening went on there weren't many people that recognized me there. I was very 
quiet and sat at the end of the bar. With a friend and that was that.

Q: So there was none of this -- no lap dances?
A: No. I wasn't. I know exactly how much money I spent at that bar and it was nowhere 
close to what was reported at SI and all those reports -- were supposedly all those 
things happened during the day and I came back at night, well, I was at Alabama until 
-- my plane didn't get to Florida until 5 p.m. and then went right to the dinner.

Q: A lot of stories have been out there -- Sports Illustrated -- how much of what they 
reported was wrong and?
A: Well they got my name right. That's about the only thing they got right in that 
story. And it was, I told the author, the writer of the story on the phone where he 
was completely off-base. I wasn't even in the state of Florida when he was making, 
when some of the girls were making accusations that they were making. I told him you 
know he was way off base with this story but he printed it anyway even though he had 
facts, other facts, he printed it. It was just ridiculous what was printed. There was 
no two, three women in my room. That didn't happen.

Q: Was there a woman?
A: Yes, there was a woman that came with me, followed me from the last place that we 
were at and came into my room. I fell asleep. I woke up the next day in my clothes 
with my glasses on and was surprised to see her still in my room. So I just, it was 
early, I had a golf tournament. It was early in the morning. I was embarrassed, got 
out of there, got dressed and left.

Q: And you had to be really afraid at that time or were you?
A: Yeah, oh yeah I was. It was, I hadn't done anything like that before and I didn't 
know where to go or where to turn to and um, but um, my wife and family have been 
great. And I did, at that time then, a few days later, did talk with Mal Moore, AD at 
Alabama and we went in -- and that's about the first conversation I've had with the 
president. When we talked about the situation and he said you're a good man you're 
caught in a bad situation, we'll help you through this. And at previous conversations 
through the week, he even said I've talked with your former bosses at WSU and they 
can't say enough good things about you so we're going to help you through this.

Q: And then their answer was ...
A: Was termination. They said let's wait for a week and I wasn't allowed to say 
anything to press or say my side of story and I was just waiting for the Board of 
Trustees meeting and that became a media circus. My wife was asked to come, and my 
boys they got up and spoke and some players on team got up and spoke on my behalf and 
then my wife and I waited for three hours for Board of Trustees outside in hallway. 
And then when they adjourned, I didn't even realize they'd adjourned, they just said 
it was a potty break, no decisions have been made yet. And President Witt went to the 
microphone and said I was terminated. I never actually -- you know he never -- said 
the words to me and I never had an opportunity to ask why. I still don't know what the 
reasons were for termination.

Q: Which is part of the lawsuit?
A: Which is part 

Re: [RollTideFan] Can we discuss something on this list?

2003-07-21 Thread SAR
- Original Message - 
From: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Doesn't bother me.  She probably shaves as much as Coach Mike does.

Not real sure which way you are going with that one.and, and, and what part of the
body are you talkin about shaving?  Some male athletes shave their leggs.."cause
of the tape-wrap".

ScR


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Re: [RollTideFan] Whose Gonna Win The West?

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot
Reverse the top 3 & I'm with the rest.  BAMA is going to be much better this
year than people expect & the barners will be much worse.  Even though we
won't get any recognition for our efforts, we feel like we have something to
prove this year & we will prove it.  We ARE the best in the West.

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From: "Ricky McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RollTideFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Whose Gonna Win The West?


> My guess; the Bengal Tiggers, they're loaded with talent, probably have
> the best coaching staff of anyone in the west, they have a favorable
> home schedule (toughest away games are South Carolina and Alabama). I
> look for the Tiggers to probably win the SEC and land in a BCS game.
> Here's the way Ricky Mac sees the West shake down…
>
> 1) LSU
> 2) Aub
> 3) Bama
> 4) Ole Miss
> 5) Arkansas
> 6) MSU
>
> What say ye?
>
> Roll Tide!!
> 41 days
> Rick
> --
> Yea, Alabama! Drown'em Tide!
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Can we discuss something on this list?

2003-07-21 Thread Pat Smoot
Doesn't bother me.  She probably shaves as much as Coach Mike does.


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> HEY, give me a freaking break! She's the only *decent* looking female
> coach I could find within the entire BAMA Athletic Department. Besides,
> I was just trying to get some schitt started with PMS.
>
> Rick
>
> Jeff Todd wrote:
> > Compared to WHAT?!?!?!
> >
> > Slef E.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ricky McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Oh YEAH, our tennis coach, Jenny Mainz, is very good looking! 
> >>
> >>http://www.rolltide.com/Womens%20Tennis/4465.asp
> >>
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