Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Nope. I've been a journalist too long. Too cynical. :) - Original Message - From: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jason, you're watching way too much CNN. > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Jason, you're watching way too much CNN. - Original Message - From: "Jason Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > I assume you're referring to Clinton. Who said a damned word about him? > Let's stick to what we're talking about: > > I appreciate that George flew over to visit the troops. But anyone who > thinks he did all that for any reason other than to make a big political > splash on a slow news day is absolutely delusional. > > Hey, maybe it's time for a flight to another aircraft carrier to tell us all > about how the war is over! > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > > > > > It's better than a draft dodger that didn't have a problem sending someone > > else's sons, daughters, wives, husbands, fathers & mothers off to get > > killed, but didn't have the damn guts to do anything like this himslef. > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Du, hell yes she was talking about that piece of shit Clinton. I am so sure you know the motives of Bush. RTR LC --- Jason Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume you're referring to Clinton. Who said a > damned word about him? > Let's stick to what we're talking about: > > I appreciate that George flew over to visit the > troops. But anyone who > thinks he did all that for any reason other than to > make a big political > splash on a slow news day is absolutely delusional. > > Hey, maybe it's time for a flight to another > aircraft carrier to tell us all > about how the war is over! > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:12 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand > Report > > > > > > It's better than a draft dodger that didn't have a > problem sending someone > > else's sons, daughters, wives, husbands, fathers & > mothers off to get > > killed, but didn't have the damn guts to do > anything like this himslef. > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Damn right PMS. RTR LC --- Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's better than a draft dodger that didn't have a > problem sending someone > else's sons, daughters, wives, husbands, fathers & > mothers off to get > killed, but didn't have the damn guts to do anything > like this himslef. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand > Report > > > > Here was this man, our President, came all the way > around the world, > > spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in > the most dangerous airport > > in the world, where a plane was shot out of the > sky not six days before. > > > > Just to spend two hours with his troops. > > ~~ > > > > > > [Snort.] > > > > The selflessness of that trip--how he flew there > just to spend two hours > > with the troops, with no thought of any personal > or political benefit, is > > just overwhelming. > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to > your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
I assume you're referring to Clinton. Who said a damned word about him? Let's stick to what we're talking about: I appreciate that George flew over to visit the troops. But anyone who thinks he did all that for any reason other than to make a big political splash on a slow news day is absolutely delusional. Hey, maybe it's time for a flight to another aircraft carrier to tell us all about how the war is over! - Original Message - From: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > > It's better than a draft dodger that didn't have a problem sending someone > else's sons, daughters, wives, husbands, fathers & mothers off to get > killed, but didn't have the damn guts to do anything like this himslef. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
It's better than a draft dodger that didn't have a problem sending someone else's sons, daughters, wives, husbands, fathers & mothers off to get killed, but didn't have the damn guts to do anything like this himslef. - Original Message - From: "Jason Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > Here was this man, our President, came all the way around the world, > spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in the most dangerous airport > in the world, where a plane was shot out of the sky not six days before. > > Just to spend two hours with his troops. > ~~ > > > [Snort.] > > The selflessness of that trip--how he flew there just to spend two hours > with the troops, with no thought of any personal or political benefit, is > just overwhelming. > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Here was this man, our President, came all the way around the world, spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in the most dangerous airport in the world, where a plane was shot out of the sky not six days before. Just to spend two hours with his troops. ~~ [Snort.] The selflessness of that trip--how he flew there just to spend two hours with the troops, with no thought of any personal or political benefit, is just overwhelming. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
Where the hell did they come from? Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report > We were > seated in the chow hall, fully decorated for > thanksgiving when all kinds of secret > service guys showed up. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] (NON Bama) A First Hand Report
I know that some won't appreciate me forwarding thisbut I bet that there are more who will. Joe "Ninety-nine percent of failures come from people who have the habit of making excuses." - George Washington. - Original Message - From: Buddy & Delayne Pitman To: willbro3 ; Tina Goodson ; Nancy & Ed Miller ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Joe Goodson ; Douglas V. Johnson II ; Don Mills Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:11 PM Subject: A First Hand Report This was sent to me so I'm sharing it with you. Subject: First Hand Report Amazing, first-hand report of the President's visit with the troops on Thanksgiving Day. Subject: An Email from a Captain in Iraq An Email from a Captain in Iraq. We knew there was a dinner planned with ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. There were 600 seats available and all the units in the division were tasked with filling a few tables. Naturally, the 501st MI battalion got our table. Soldiers were grumbling about having to sit through another dog-and-ponyshow, so we had to pick soldiers to attend. I chose not to go. But, about 1500 the G2, LTC Devan, came up to me and with a smile, asked me to come to dinner with him, to meet him in his office at 1600 and bring a camera. I didn't really care about getting a picture with Sanchez or Bremer, but when the division's senior intelligence officer asks you to go, you go. We were seated in the chow hall, fully decorated for thanksgiving when all kinds of secret service guys showed up. That was my first clue, because Bremer's been here before and his personal security detachment is not that big. Then BG Dempsey got up to speak, and he welcomed ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. Bremer thanked us all and pulled out a piece of paper as if to give a speech. He mentioned that the President had given him this thanksgiving speech to give to the troops. He then paused and said that the senior man present should be the one to give it. He then looked at Sanchez, who just smiled. Bremer then said that we should probably get someone more senior to read the speech. Then, from behind the camouflage netting, the President of the United States came around. The mess hall actually erupted with hollering. Troops bounded to their feet with shocked smiles and just began cheering with all their hearts. The building actually shook. It was just unreal. I was absolutely stunned. Not only for the obvious, but also because I was only two tables away from the podium. There he stood, less than thirty feet away from me! The cheering went on and on and on. Soldiers were hollering, cheering, and a lot of them were crying. There was not a dry eye at my table. When he stepped up to the cheering, I could clearly see tears running down his cheeks. It was the most surreal moment I've had in years. Not since my wedding and Aaron being born. Here was this man, our President, came all the way around the world, spending 17 hours on an airplane and landing in the most dangerous airport in the world, where a plane was shot out of the sky not six days before. Just to spend two hours with his troops. Only to get on a plane and spend another 17 hours flying back. It was a great moment, and I will never forget it. He delivered his speech, which we all loved, when he looked right at me and held his eyes on me. Then he stepped down and was just mobbed by the soldiers. He slowly worked his way all the way around the chow hall and shook every last hand extended. Every soldier who wanted a photo with the President got one. I made my way through the line, got dinner, then wolfed it down as he was still working the room. You could tell he was really enjoying himself. It wasn't just a photo opportunity. This man was actually enjoying himself! He worked his way over the course of about 90 minutes towards my side of the room. Meanwhile, I took the opportunity to shake a few hands. I got a picture with Ambassador Bremer, Talabani (acting Iraqi president) and Achmed Chalabi (another member of the ruling council) and Condaleeza Rice, who was there with him. I felt like I was drunk. He was getting closer to my table so I went back over to my seat. As he passed and posed for photos, he looked me in the eye and said "How you doin', captain." I smiled and said "God bless you, sir." To which he responded "I'm proud of what you do, captain." Then moved on. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
I agree Jamie, it was more fun then. RTR LC --- Jamie Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system > where > > the SEC champ goes to the Sugar bowl > >No, go back to even an older system, where a > particular bowl decides who will play in their > gameNo tie ins what so everBowl tie ins is > what got us to this point today > > > we all get to argue forever about who the > national > > champ is > > It was much more fun back then > Jamie > > = > >From The arbrun Creed -- > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee > hee) , without which I cannot win the respect (tee > hee hee) and confidence of my fellow men.'' > BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system where > the SEC champ goes to the Sugar bowl No, go back to even an older system, where a particular bowl decides who will play in their gameNo tie ins what so everBowl tie ins is what got us to this point today > we all get to argue forever about who the national > champ is It was much more fun back then Jamie = >From The arbrun Creed -- "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee hee) , without which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and confidence of my fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Steven Johnson >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 3:51 PM >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > >Obviously I won't convince you but I can't see how it >is wimpy when extra games are played to determine a >true champion. Like I said before, if the best team >doesn't win too bad for them. > >RTR >LC I couldn't agree more. If the best team doesn't win, too bad for them. They don't deserve a second chance. What is your problem with my suggestion for deteriming a true national champion? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
Obviously I won't convince you but I can't see how it is wimpy when extra games are played to determine a true champion. Like I said before, if the best team doesn't win too bad for them. RTR LC --- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Steven Johnson > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:50 PM > >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > >I wasn't aware we were talking about basketball. > >Sure, someone would have to decide what teams got > into > >a playoff, but let the coaches do it, they know > more > >about it than the computers or sportswriting hacks. > I > >just don't get how anyone could oppose a playoff, > like > >you said someone will get screwed this year but > that > >would be less likely if the coaches chose. > > > >RTR > >LC > > > Basketball has a tourney, football does not. It is a > valid comparison > whether you are aware of it or not. > > The coaches poll is included in the BCS formula. I > don't think you are going > to find a lot of people who would support the idea > if making the coaches > poll the ONLY criteria for choosing who plays in the > national championship > game of any expanded playoff, but you are certainly > welcome to try. > > Opposing a plyoff is very simple. I don't like wimpy > shit. If you don't win > your games during the season, on the field, then I > don't see why a coaches > poll or any BCS style formula should go give you a > second chance. You should > have taken care of business during the season, not > depend a second wimpy-ass > chance in a playoff. > > The BCS system works. Last year it matched the two > undefeateds in the > championship game and OSU won it and nobody bithched > or moaned. This year, > all 117 teams entered the season with the chance to > run the table and nobody > had what it takes to do it. So, in years like this, > or if there were 3 > legitimate undefeateds, then everybody starts > screaming for a playoff that > lets a bunch of teams that have absolutely no right, > due to their on the > field performance during the season, the opportunity > to have a wimpy-ass > second chance. > > The answer, in my opinion, is a "play-in," meaning > that if you have teams at > #2 and #3 in the BCS formula that are within a > reasonable distance of each > other, say 1.5 points, and have identical loss > records, then they would play > a game the week following the conference > chamionships and the winner of that > game would go to the championship game vs. #1 and > the loser would be #3 and > play in the #3 spot in the BCS formula. This way, in > years that it is not > needed, there is no play-in game and no crappy ass > team that didn't take > care of business during the year gets an opportunity > they don't deserve. In > years like this year, situations like the one we > have now are avoided "on > the field." > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] And in the AP poll....
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings?poll=1 1. USC 2. LSU 3. Okrahoma... Which will most likely mean LSU/Oklahoma in the title game.. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Steven Johnson >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:50 PM >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > >I wasn't aware we were talking about basketball. >Sure, someone would have to decide what teams got into >a playoff, but let the coaches do it, they know more >about it than the computers or sportswriting hacks. I >just don't get how anyone could oppose a playoff, like >you said someone will get screwed this year but that >would be less likely if the coaches chose. > >RTR >LC Basketball has a tourney, football does not. It is a valid comparison whether you are aware of it or not. The coaches poll is included in the BCS formula. I don't think you are going to find a lot of people who would support the idea if making the coaches poll the ONLY criteria for choosing who plays in the national championship game of any expanded playoff, but you are certainly welcome to try. Opposing a plyoff is very simple. I don't like wimpy shit. If you don't win your games during the season, on the field, then I don't see why a coaches poll or any BCS style formula should go give you a second chance. You should have taken care of business during the season, not depend a second wimpy-ass chance in a playoff. The BCS system works. Last year it matched the two undefeateds in the championship game and OSU won it and nobody bithched or moaned. This year, all 117 teams entered the season with the chance to run the table and nobody had what it takes to do it. So, in years like this, or if there were 3 legitimate undefeateds, then everybody starts screaming for a playoff that lets a bunch of teams that have absolutely no right, due to their on the field performance during the season, the opportunity to have a wimpy-ass second chance. The answer, in my opinion, is a "play-in," meaning that if you have teams at #2 and #3 in the BCS formula that are within a reasonable distance of each other, say 1.5 points, and have identical loss records, then they would play a game the week following the conference chamionships and the winner of that game would go to the championship game vs. #1 and the loser would be #3 and play in the #3 spot in the BCS formula. This way, in years that it is not needed, there is no play-in game and no crappy ass team that didn't take care of business during the year gets an opportunity they don't deserve. In years like this year, situations like the one we have now are avoided "on the field." __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
I wasn't aware we were talking about basketball. Sure, someone would have to decide what teams got into a playoff, but let the coaches do it, they know more about it than the computers or sportswriting hacks. I just don't get how anyone could oppose a playoff, like you said someone will get screwed this year but that would be less likely if the coaches chose. RTR LC --- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dude! You just contradicted the hell out of > yourself! > > How do you think they determine who gets into the > basketball tourney? The > RPI rating (a computer rating system that nobody > really knows how works) and > the ranking in the human polls are the two factors > that a bunch of faceless > people called "the NCAA tournament Selection > Committe" use to decide who > does and who does not get the opportunity to try to > win six more games after > the actual season is over. > > You criticise computers and "sports writing hacks" > yet that is precisely > who/what would stand at the gates of any playoff and > deem worthiness of > admission. > > Championships should indeed be won on the field > which is exactly the > argument AGAINST playoffs. A 2 or 3 loss team has > absolutely no right > whatsoever to whine about not being allowed to play > for any title because > you know what, they didn't win it on the field. They > didn't take care of > business. Screw them! They should have won their > friggin' games during the > season and the point would be moot. > > Screw LSU, USC and Oklahoma. One of them will get > screwed and should. > > - Oklahoma had a chance to waltz into the Sugar bowl > and blew by losing to a > 3 loss KSU team. > - LSU had a chance for an undefeated season and > certain trip to the Sugar > Bowl and blew it by losing to Florida. > - USC had a chance for an undefeated season and > certain trip to the Sugar > Bowl and blew it by losing to Cal. > > > If you want to win a championship - win it! Don't > whine about it. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Steven Johnson > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 11:47 AM > >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > >It is more of a legitimate champion than letting > >computers and sports writing hacks decide who they > >think should be there. You have to win games in > order > >to be a champion, and if some team gets hot and > beats > >you, that's your problem. Championships should be > won > >on the field, not on some nerds computer. > > > >RTR > >LC > >--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The "legitimate" champion argument is hogwash. > >> > >> It does not produce a "legitimate" SEASON > champion. > >> The NCAA basketball > >> tourney produces a legitimate tournament champion > >> which means that it > >> totally throws out the season and starts over. > The > >> team that can put 6 wins > >> together at the END of the season is crowned > >> champion and the season itself > >> is relegated to second fiddle. B-ball season > sucks. > >> Hell, it's been going on > >> for 3 weeks and most of us could care less > because > >> we don't start getting > >> interested until the end of the season. I hate > >> basketball season and I don't > >> want football season to end up the same way. > Words > >> like "legitimate" and > >> "mythical" are nice little sound bites, but > that's > >> all they all they are and > >> carry no weight. > >> > >> Just say "no" to playoffs. > >> > >> >-Original Message- > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Behalf Of Joe Goodson > >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:43 AM > >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > Athletics > >> Discussion List > >> >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > >> > > >> > > >> >Screw the bowl tradition. Even highschool and > >> peewee leagues have a > >> >LEGITIMATE champion. Anyting other than a > playoff > >> crowns a mythical > >> >champion. Roundball March Madness generates > more > >> interest than the bowl > >> >games because it is a legitimate tournament > which > >> produces a legitimate > >> >champion. > >> > > >> >MORE FOOTBALL! > >> >Joe > >> > > >> >"We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in > the > >> world, and I love > >> >every one of them, but they're not tough enough. > If > >> we don't get some > >> >sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not > >> going to beat anybody." - > >> >Alabama legend Bear Bryant. > >> > > >> >- Original Message - > >> >From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > >> Athletics Discussion List" > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:19 AM > >> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > >> > > >> > > >> >> Now you're talking! I'm a traditionalist. > >> >> > >> >> A playoff takes the emphasis totally away from > >> the season and 1 or
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
Dude! You just contradicted the hell out of yourself! How do you think they determine who gets into the basketball tourney? The RPI rating (a computer rating system that nobody really knows how works) and the ranking in the human polls are the two factors that a bunch of faceless people called "the NCAA tournament Selection Committe" use to decide who does and who does not get the opportunity to try to win six more games after the actual season is over. You criticise computers and "sports writing hacks" yet that is precisely who/what would stand at the gates of any playoff and deem worthiness of admission. Championships should indeed be won on the field which is exactly the argument AGAINST playoffs. A 2 or 3 loss team has absolutely no right whatsoever to whine about not being allowed to play for any title because you know what, they didn't win it on the field. They didn't take care of business. Screw them! They should have won their friggin' games during the season and the point would be moot. Screw LSU, USC and Oklahoma. One of them will get screwed and should. - Oklahoma had a chance to waltz into the Sugar bowl and blew by losing to a 3 loss KSU team. - LSU had a chance for an undefeated season and certain trip to the Sugar Bowl and blew it by losing to Florida. - USC had a chance for an undefeated season and certain trip to the Sugar Bowl and blew it by losing to Cal. If you want to win a championship - win it! Don't whine about it. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Steven Johnson >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 11:47 AM >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > >It is more of a legitimate champion than letting >computers and sports writing hacks decide who they >think should be there. You have to win games in order >to be a champion, and if some team gets hot and beats >you, that's your problem. Championships should be won >on the field, not on some nerds computer. > >RTR >LC >--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The "legitimate" champion argument is hogwash. >> >> It does not produce a "legitimate" SEASON champion. >> The NCAA basketball >> tourney produces a legitimate tournament champion >> which means that it >> totally throws out the season and starts over. The >> team that can put 6 wins >> together at the END of the season is crowned >> champion and the season itself >> is relegated to second fiddle. B-ball season sucks. >> Hell, it's been going on >> for 3 weeks and most of us could care less because >> we don't start getting >> interested until the end of the season. I hate >> basketball season and I don't >> want football season to end up the same way. Words >> like "legitimate" and >> "mythical" are nice little sound bites, but that's >> all they all they are and >> carry no weight. >> >> Just say "no" to playoffs. >> >> >-Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Behalf Of Joe Goodson >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:43 AM >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics >> Discussion List >> >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... >> > >> > >> >Screw the bowl tradition. Even highschool and >> peewee leagues have a >> >LEGITIMATE champion. Anyting other than a playoff >> crowns a mythical >> >champion. Roundball March Madness generates more >> interest than the bowl >> >games because it is a legitimate tournament which >> produces a legitimate >> >champion. >> > >> >MORE FOOTBALL! >> >Joe >> > >> >"We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in the >> world, and I love >> >every one of them, but they're not tough enough. If >> we don't get some >> >sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not >> going to beat anybody." - >> >Alabama legend Bear Bryant. >> > >> >- Original Message - >> >From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama >> Athletics Discussion List" >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:19 AM >> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... >> > >> > >> >> Now you're talking! I'm a traditionalist. >> >> >> >> A playoff takes the emphasis totally away from >> the season and 1 or 2 >> >losses >> >> during the season mean absolutely NOTHING anymore >> because all >> >that matters >> >> is getting into the playoffs, just like >> basketball season now, which >> >> abso-fucking-lutely sucks. The tournament is >> semi-fun, but the season is >> >> almost a meaningless warm-up to the tourney. >> >> >> >> Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system >> where the SEC champ goes to >> >> the Sugar bowl and we all get to argue forever >> about who the national >> >champ >> >> is, not some silly tourney champion where a 2 or >> 3-loss team can get hot >> >and >> >> beat an undefeated team, then get named "NCAA >> Playoff Champion" but we >> >would >> >> all know that they got their asses whipped dur
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
It is more of a legitimate champion than letting computers and sports writing hacks decide who they think should be there. You have to win games in order to be a champion, and if some team gets hot and beats you, that's your problem. Championships should be won on the field, not on some nerds computer. RTR LC --- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The "legitimate" champion argument is hogwash. > > It does not produce a "legitimate" SEASON champion. > The NCAA basketball > tourney produces a legitimate tournament champion > which means that it > totally throws out the season and starts over. The > team that can put 6 wins > together at the END of the season is crowned > champion and the season itself > is relegated to second fiddle. B-ball season sucks. > Hell, it's been going on > for 3 weeks and most of us could care less because > we don't start getting > interested until the end of the season. I hate > basketball season and I don't > want football season to end up the same way. Words > like "legitimate" and > "mythical" are nice little sound bites, but that's > all they all they are and > carry no weight. > > Just say "no" to playoffs. > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Joe Goodson > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:43 AM > >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > >Screw the bowl tradition. Even highschool and > peewee leagues have a > >LEGITIMATE champion. Anyting other than a playoff > crowns a mythical > >champion. Roundball March Madness generates more > interest than the bowl > >games because it is a legitimate tournament which > produces a legitimate > >champion. > > > >MORE FOOTBALL! > >Joe > > > >"We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in the > world, and I love > >every one of them, but they're not tough enough. If > we don't get some > >sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not > going to beat anybody." - > >Alabama legend Bear Bryant. > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > Athletics Discussion List" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:19 AM > >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > >> Now you're talking! I'm a traditionalist. > >> > >> A playoff takes the emphasis totally away from > the season and 1 or 2 > >losses > >> during the season mean absolutely NOTHING anymore > because all > >that matters > >> is getting into the playoffs, just like > basketball season now, which > >> abso-fucking-lutely sucks. The tournament is > semi-fun, but the season is > >> almost a meaningless warm-up to the tourney. > >> > >> Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system > where the SEC champ goes to > >> the Sugar bowl and we all get to argue forever > about who the national > >champ > >> is, not some silly tourney champion where a 2 or > 3-loss team can get hot > >and > >> beat an undefeated team, then get named "NCAA > Playoff Champion" but we > >would > >> all know that they got their asses whipped during > the season and aren't > >the > >> national champs at all, but instead just a team > that got hot at > >the end of > >> the season, like oh say, maybe um KANSAS FUCKING > STATE. > >> > >> A playoff sucks. > >> > >> > >> > >> >-Original Message- > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Behalf Of Jamie Watts > >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:02 AM > >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > Athletics Discussion List > >> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > >> > > >> > > >> > Like this B.S.S.(That's Bull.Shit.Series) > system > >> >don'tIf they don't go to playoffs then > they > >> >should scrap the MNC and polls all together and > open > >> >the bowls up so THEY can decide who plays > where > >> > Jamie > >> > > >> >--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Playoff sucks > >> >> > >> >> >-Original Message- > >> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >Behalf Of Jamie Watts > >> >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:58 AM > >> >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama > Athletics > >> >> Discussion List > >> >> >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > AMEN BROTHER > >> >> > Jamie > >> >> > > >> >> >--- Ricky Mc.sed: > >> >> >> ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> This is a great day for those of us that > want a > >> >> >> playoff. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Rick > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Slef wrote: > >> >> >> > Is happening to Oklahoma? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Slef E. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > >>__ > >> >> >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama > Athletics > >> >> >> Discussion List > >> >> >>
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
No, computers suck. RTR LC --- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Playoff sucks > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Jamie Watts > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:58 AM > >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > > AMEN BROTHER > > Jamie > > > >--- Ricky Mc.sed: > >> ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? > >> > >> This is a great day for those of us that want a > >> playoff. > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> Slef wrote: > >> > Is happening to Oklahoma? > >> > > >> > Slef E. > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >__ > >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > >> Discussion List > >> > >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > >> > >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to > your > >> subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > >= > >>From The arbrun Creed -- > > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee > hee) , without > >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and > confidence of my > >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > >__ > >RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > >"Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > >To join or leave the list or to make changes to > your subscription > >visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
The "legitimate" champion argument is hogwash. It does not produce a "legitimate" SEASON champion. The NCAA basketball tourney produces a legitimate tournament champion which means that it totally throws out the season and starts over. The team that can put 6 wins together at the END of the season is crowned champion and the season itself is relegated to second fiddle. B-ball season sucks. Hell, it's been going on for 3 weeks and most of us could care less because we don't start getting interested until the end of the season. I hate basketball season and I don't want football season to end up the same way. Words like "legitimate" and "mythical" are nice little sound bites, but that's all they all they are and carry no weight. Just say "no" to playoffs. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Joe Goodson >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:43 AM >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > >Screw the bowl tradition. Even highschool and peewee leagues have a >LEGITIMATE champion. Anyting other than a playoff crowns a mythical >champion. Roundball March Madness generates more interest than the bowl >games because it is a legitimate tournament which produces a legitimate >champion. > >MORE FOOTBALL! >Joe > >"We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in the world, and I love >every one of them, but they're not tough enough. If we don't get some >sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not going to beat anybody." - >Alabama legend Bear Bryant. > >- Original Message - >From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:19 AM >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > >> Now you're talking! I'm a traditionalist. >> >> A playoff takes the emphasis totally away from the season and 1 or 2 >losses >> during the season mean absolutely NOTHING anymore because all >that matters >> is getting into the playoffs, just like basketball season now, which >> abso-fucking-lutely sucks. The tournament is semi-fun, but the season is >> almost a meaningless warm-up to the tourney. >> >> Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system where the SEC champ goes to >> the Sugar bowl and we all get to argue forever about who the national >champ >> is, not some silly tourney champion where a 2 or 3-loss team can get hot >and >> beat an undefeated team, then get named "NCAA Playoff Champion" but we >would >> all know that they got their asses whipped during the season and aren't >the >> national champs at all, but instead just a team that got hot at >the end of >> the season, like oh say, maybe um KANSAS FUCKING STATE. >> >> A playoff sucks. >> >> >> >> >-Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Behalf Of Jamie Watts >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:02 AM >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List >> >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... >> > >> > >> > Like this B.S.S.(That's Bull.Shit.Series) system >> >don'tIf they don't go to playoffs then they >> >should scrap the MNC and polls all together and open >> >the bowls up so THEY can decide who plays where >> > Jamie >> > >> >--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Playoff sucks >> >> >> >> >-Original Message- >> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >Behalf Of Jamie Watts >> >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:58 AM >> >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics >> >> Discussion List >> >> >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > AMEN BROTHER >> >> > Jamie >> >> > >> >> >--- Ricky Mc.sed: >> >> >> ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? >> >> >> >> >> >> This is a great day for those of us that want a >> >> >> playoff. >> >> >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> >> Slef wrote: >> >> >> > Is happening to Oklahoma? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Slef E. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>__ >> >> >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics >> >> >> Discussion List >> >> >> >> >> >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" >> >> >> >> >> >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to >> >> your >> >> >> subscription visit >> >> http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >= >> >> >>From The arbrun Creed -- >> >> > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee >> >> hee) , without >> >> >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and >> >> confidence of my >> >> >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >__ >> >> >Do you Yahoo!? >> >> >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >> >> >http://photos.yahoo.com/ >> >> >
Re: [RollTideFan] Coaches poll
kurt rasmussen wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/clubhouse?collegeId=30 1. USC 2. LSU 3. Okrahoma... Ooops.. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Coaches poll
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/clubhouse?collegeId=30 1. USC 2. LSU 3. Okrahoma... kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
Screw the bowl tradition. Even highschool and peewee leagues have a LEGITIMATE champion. Anyting other than a playoff crowns a mythical champion. Roundball March Madness generates more interest than the bowl games because it is a legitimate tournament which produces a legitimate champion. MORE FOOTBALL! Joe "We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in the world, and I love every one of them, but they're not tough enough. If we don't get some sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not going to beat anybody." - Alabama legend Bear Bryant. - Original Message - From: "Tim Boozer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:19 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > Now you're talking! I'm a traditionalist. > > A playoff takes the emphasis totally away from the season and 1 or 2 losses > during the season mean absolutely NOTHING anymore because all that matters > is getting into the playoffs, just like basketball season now, which > abso-fucking-lutely sucks. The tournament is semi-fun, but the season is > almost a meaningless warm-up to the tourney. > > Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system where the SEC champ goes to > the Sugar bowl and we all get to argue forever about who the national champ > is, not some silly tourney champion where a 2 or 3-loss team can get hot and > beat an undefeated team, then get named "NCAA Playoff Champion" but we would > all know that they got their asses whipped during the season and aren't the > national champs at all, but instead just a team that got hot at the end of > the season, like oh say, maybe um KANSAS FUCKING STATE. > > A playoff sucks. > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Jamie Watts > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:02 AM > >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > > Like this B.S.S.(That's Bull.Shit.Series) system > >don'tIf they don't go to playoffs then they > >should scrap the MNC and polls all together and open > >the bowls up so THEY can decide who plays where > > Jamie > > > >--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Playoff sucks > >> > >> >-Original Message- > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Behalf Of Jamie Watts > >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:58 AM > >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > >> Discussion List > >> >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > >> > > >> > > >> > AMEN BROTHER > >> > Jamie > >> > > >> >--- Ricky Mc.sed: > >> >> ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? > >> >> > >> >> This is a great day for those of us that want a > >> >> playoff. > >> >> > >> >> Rick > >> >> > >> >> Slef wrote: > >> >> > Is happening to Oklahoma? > >> >> > > >> >> > Slef E. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >>__ > >> >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > >> >> Discussion List > >> >> > >> >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > >> >> > >> >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to > >> your > >> >> subscription visit > >> http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > >> > > >> > > >> >= > >> >>From The arbrun Creed -- > >> > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee > >> hee) , without > >> >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and > >> confidence of my > >> >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >__ > >> >Do you Yahoo!? > >> >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > >> >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >> > > >> > >>__ > >> >RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > >> Discussion List > >> > > >> >"Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > >> > > >> >To join or leave the list or to make changes to > >> your subscription > >> >visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > >> > > >> > >> > >__ > >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > >> Discussion List > >> > >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > >> > >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > >> subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > >= > >>From The arbrun Creed -- > > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee hee) , without > >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and confidence of my > >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > >__ > >RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics
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Hell yeah! I am all for anything that means MORE FOOTBALL! Joe "We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in the world, and I love every one of them, but they're not tough enough. If we don't get some sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not going to beat anybody." - Alabama legend Bear Bryant. - Original Message - From: "Rick McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? > > This is a great day for those of us that want a playoff. > > Rick > > Slef wrote: > > Is happening to Oklahoma? > > > > Slef E. > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
Looks like they got their butts whupped. Kansas was better prepared. Someone forgot to tell Kansas State to lay down and Oklahoma wasn't ready. I wonder what this will do to the BCS? Joe "We have the sweetest, finest bunch of kids in the world, and I love every one of them, but they're not tough enough. If we don't get some sure-enough, way-down-deep meanness, we're not going to beat anybody." - Alabama legend Bear Bryant. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > Is happening to Oklahoma? > > Slef E. > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
Now you're talking! I'm a traditionalist. A playoff takes the emphasis totally away from the season and 1 or 2 losses during the season mean absolutely NOTHING anymore because all that matters is getting into the playoffs, just like basketball season now, which abso-fucking-lutely sucks. The tournament is semi-fun, but the season is almost a meaningless warm-up to the tourney. Scrap the BCS, go back to the old bowl system where the SEC champ goes to the Sugar bowl and we all get to argue forever about who the national champ is, not some silly tourney champion where a 2 or 3-loss team can get hot and beat an undefeated team, then get named "NCAA Playoff Champion" but we would all know that they got their asses whipped during the season and aren't the national champs at all, but instead just a team that got hot at the end of the season, like oh say, maybe um KANSAS FUCKING STATE. A playoff sucks. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Jamie Watts >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:02 AM >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List >Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > Like this B.S.S.(That's Bull.Shit.Series) system >don'tIf they don't go to playoffs then they >should scrap the MNC and polls all together and open >the bowls up so THEY can decide who plays where > Jamie > >--- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Playoff sucks >> >> >-Original Message- >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Behalf Of Jamie Watts >> >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:58 AM >> >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics >> Discussion List >> >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... >> > >> > >> > AMEN BROTHER >> > Jamie >> > >> >--- Ricky Mc.sed: >> >> ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? >> >> >> >> This is a great day for those of us that want a >> >> playoff. >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> Slef wrote: >> >> > Is happening to Oklahoma? >> >> > >> >> > Slef E. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>__ >> >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics >> >> Discussion List >> >> >> >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" >> >> >> >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to >> your >> >> subscription visit >> http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net >> > >> > >> >= >> >>From The arbrun Creed -- >> > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee >> hee) , without >> >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and >> confidence of my >> >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >__ >> >Do you Yahoo!? >> >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >> >http://photos.yahoo.com/ >> > >> >>__ >> >RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics >> Discussion List >> > >> >"Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" >> > >> >To join or leave the list or to make changes to >> your subscription >> >visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net >> > >> >> >__ >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics >> Discussion List >> >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" >> >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to your >> subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > >= >>From The arbrun Creed -- > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee hee) , without >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and confidence of my >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! > > > > > > > >__ >Do you Yahoo!? >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >__ >RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > >"Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > >To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription >visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
Like this B.S.S.(That's Bull.Shit.Series) system don'tIf they don't go to playoffs then they should scrap the MNC and polls all together and open the bowls up so THEY can decide who plays where Jamie --- Tim Boozer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Playoff sucks > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Jamie Watts > >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:58 AM > >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > > > > AMEN BROTHER > > Jamie > > > >--- Ricky Mc.sed: > >> ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? > >> > >> This is a great day for those of us that want a > >> playoff. > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> Slef wrote: > >> > Is happening to Oklahoma? > >> > > >> > Slef E. > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >__ > >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > >> Discussion List > >> > >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > >> > >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to > your > >> subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > >= > >>From The arbrun Creed -- > > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee > hee) , without > >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and > confidence of my > >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > > >__ > >RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > > >"Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > >To join or leave the list or to make changes to > your subscription > >visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net = >From The arbrun Creed -- "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee hee) , without which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and confidence of my fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
Playoff sucks >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Jamie Watts >Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:58 AM >To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List >Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell... > > > AMEN BROTHER > Jamie > >--- Ricky Mc.sed: >> ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? >> >> This is a great day for those of us that want a >> playoff. >> >> Rick >> >> Slef wrote: >> > Is happening to Oklahoma? >> > >> > Slef E. >> > >> >> >> >__ >> RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics >> Discussion List >> >> "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" >> >> To join or leave the list or to make changes to your >> subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > >= >>From The arbrun Creed -- > "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee hee) , without >which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and confidence of my >fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! > > > > > > > >__ >Do you Yahoo!? >New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >__ >RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > >"Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > >To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription >visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] What the hell...
AMEN BROTHER Jamie --- Ricky Mc.sed: > ...can you say BCS BLOWUP? > > This is a great day for those of us that want a > playoff. > > Rick > > Slef wrote: > > Is happening to Oklahoma? > > > > Slef E. > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics > Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your > subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net = >From The arbrun Creed -- "I believe in honesty(hee) and truthfulness(tee hee) , without which I cannot win the respect (tee hee hee) and confidence of my fellow men.'' BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
