Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
oh Wish not so much to live long as to live well. - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > That was a figure of speech, Joseph. > > Slef E. > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > > > > Hmm, they did when I was in school. But I got part of my schooling in NC. > > I moved back to Bama when I was 14. > > Joe > > Joe > > Wish not so much to live long as to live well. > > > > - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school. > > > > > > Slef E. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 PM > > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > > > > > > > > > > I agree. Parents are the main problem. But a federal government agency > > > > dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help. The don't > > > > teach American History anymore. Or at least not enough of it. What > > else > > > > have they phased out of the curriculum? > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron
True. True. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Smoot Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron Why Dogs Rule: 1. Dogs are never permitted in the house. The dog stays outside in a specially built wooden compartment named, for very good reason, the dog house. 2. Okay, the dog can enter the house, but only for short visits or if his own house is under renovation. 3. Okay, the dog can stay in the house on a permanent basis, provided his dog house can be sold in a yard sale to a rookie dog owner. 4. Inside the house, the dog is not allowed to run free and is confined to a comfortable but secure metal cage. 5. Okay, the cage becomes part of a two-for-one deal along with the dog house in the yard sale, and the dog can go wherever he pleases. 6. The dog is never allowed on the furniture. 7. Okay, the dog can get on the old furniture but not the new furniture. 8. Okay, the dog can get up on the new furniture until it looks like the old furniture and then we'll sell the entire works and buy new furniture...upon which the dog will most definitely not be allowed. 9. The dog never sleeps on the bed. Period. 10. Okay, the dog can sleep at the foot of the bed. 11. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you, but he's not allowed under the covers. 12. Okay, the dog can sleep under the covers but not with his head on the pillow. 13. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you under the covers with his head on the pillow, but if he snores he's got to leave the room. 14. Okay, the dog can sleep and snore and have nightmares in bed, but he's not to come in and sleep on the couch in the TV room, where I'm now sleeping. That's just not fair. 15. The dog never gets listed on the census questionnaire as "primary resident," even if it's true. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Deere Ron
Why Dogs Rule: 1. Dogs are never permitted in the house. The dog stays outside in a specially built wooden compartment named, for very good reason, the dog house. 2. Okay, the dog can enter the house, but only for short visits or if his own house is under renovation. 3. Okay, the dog can stay in the house on a permanent basis, provided his dog house can be sold in a yard sale to a rookie dog owner. 4. Inside the house, the dog is not allowed to run free and is confined to a comfortable but secure metal cage. 5. Okay, the cage becomes part of a two-for-one deal along with the dog house in the yard sale, and the dog can go wherever he pleases. 6. The dog is never allowed on the furniture. 7. Okay, the dog can get on the old furniture but not the new furniture. 8. Okay, the dog can get up on the new furniture until it looks like the old furniture and then we'll sell the entire works and buy new furniture...upon which the dog will most definitely not be allowed. 9. The dog never sleeps on the bed. Period. 10. Okay, the dog can sleep at the foot of the bed. 11. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you, but he's not allowed under the covers. 12. Okay, the dog can sleep under the covers but not with his head on the pillow. 13. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you under the covers with his head on the pillow, but if he snores he's got to leave the room. 14. Okay, the dog can sleep and snore and have nightmares in bed, but he's not to come in and sleep on the couch in the TV room, where I'm now sleeping. That's just not fair. 15. The dog never gets listed on the census questionnaire as "primary resident," even if it's true. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] TGIF Groaner - (NonBama)
No *stupid joke Groaner* today - BUT - Take the following "Quiz" and you may "GROAN"... Subject: Quiz ... kind of tough? 1. There's one "sport" in which neither the spectators nor the: participants know the score or the leader until the contest ends. What is it? 2. What famous North American landmark is constantly moving backward? 3. Of all vegetables, only two can live to produce on their own for several growing seasons. All other vegetables must be replanted every year. What are the only two perennial vegetables? 4. Name the only sport in which the ball is always in possession of the team on defense, and the offensive team can score without touching the ball? 5. What fruit has its seeds! on the outside? 6. In many liquor stores, you can buy pear brandy, with a real pear inside the bottle. The pear is whole and ripe, and the bottle is genuine; it hasn't been cut in any way. How did the pear get inside the bottle? 7. Only three words in standard English begin with the letters "dw." They are all common. Name two of them. 8. There are fourteen punctuation marks in English grammar. Can you name half of them? 9. Where are the lakes that are referred to in the "Los Angeles Lakers?" 10. There are seven ways a baseball player can legally reach first base without getting a hit. Taking a base on balls--a walk--is one way. Name the other six. 11. It's the only vegetable or fruit that is never sold frozen, canned, processed, cooked, or in any other form but fresh. What is it? 12. Name six or more things that you can wear on your feet that! begin with the letter "S." : : : "Answers To Quiz" 1. There's one "sport" in which neither the spectators nor the participants know the score or the leader until the contest ends. What is it? Boxing. 2. What famous North American landmark is constantly moving backward? Niagara Falls. The rim is worn down about two and a half feet each year because of the millions of gallons of water that rush over it every minute. 3. Of all vegetables, only two can live to produce on their own for several growing seasons. All other vegetables must be replanted every year. What are the only two perennial vegetables? Asparagus and rhubarb. 4. Name the only sport in which the ball is always in possession of the team on defense, and the offensive team can score without touching the ball? Baseball. 5. What fruit has its seeds on the outside? Strawberry. 6. In many liquor stores, you can buy pear brandy, with a real pear inside the bottle. The pear is whole and ripe, and the bottle is genuine; it hasn't been cut in any way. How did the pear get inside the bottle? The pear grew inside the bottle. The bottles are placed over pear buds when they are small, and are wired in place on the tree. The bottle is left in place for the whole growing season. When the pears are ripe, they are snipped off at the stems. 7. Only three words in standard English begin with the letters "dw." They are all common. Name two of them. Dwarf, dwell, and dwindle. 8. There are fourteen punctuation marks in English grammar. Can you name half of them? Period, comma, colon, semicolon, dash, hyphen, apostrophe, question mark, exclamation point, quotation marks, brackets, parenthesis, braces, and ellipses. 9. Where are the lakes that are referred to ! in the "Los Angeles Lakers?" In Minnesota. The team was originally known as the Minneapolis Lakers and kept the name when they moved west. 10. There are seven ways a baseball player can legally reach first base without getting a hit. Taking a base on balls--a walk--is one way. Name the other six. Batter hit by a pitch; passed ball; catcher interference; catcher drops third strike; fielder's choice; and being designated as a pinch runner. 11. It's the only vegetable or fruit that is never sold frozen, canned, processed, cooked, or in any other form but fresh. What is it? Lettuce. 12. Name six or more things that you can wear on your feet that begin with the letter "S." Shoes, socks, sandals, sneakers, slippers, skis, skates, snowshoes, stockings, stilts. ... Did you "Groan"? cheers -vo- http://community-2.webtv.net/TIDE1/SOLDIER/ __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Beard up and running
http://tennessean.com/sports/titans/archives/04/04/49603356.shtml?Element_ID=49603356 Friday, 04/09/04 Beard up and running By JIM WYATT Staff Writer As a football star at Pearl-Cohn High School in the late 1990s, Santonio Beard tasted success and everything that went with it. The Firebirds won championships. Beard won awards. He had more friends than time. With a name as unique as his ability, he was as close to a household name in Nashville as a high school athlete has ever been. He seemed on the fast track to bigger, better things. But as Beard sat in his apartment with tears streaming down his face last April, he felt 100 years removed from his glory days at Pearl-Cohn and the University of Alabama. His life had changed, and it was about to change even more. A failed drug test had put a question mark next to his name leading up to the 2003 NFL draft, but Beard still didn't give up hope of being selected. After all 262 picks, however, his name had not been called. He cried for an hour. ''Then the next day I hit rock bottom,'' Beard said. ''I wasn't going to actually do it, but I contemplated wiping myself out. When you have something you've worked for your entire life taken away from you, it makes you question some things. It seemed like the world was coming to an end for me. And I knew it was all my fault because I did something really stupid.'' Things got worse before they got better. For weeks, Beard had trouble forgiving himself. He said many friends and even some relatives suddenly viewed him as a failure and ''went away.'' He shut out those closest to him and became deeply depressed. He moved out of his Rivergate apartment because every time he walked in the door it took him back to draft day. ''He shut down from me and everyone — he didn't want to talk to anybody,'' said his mother, Joan Beard. ''Something like that either makes you or breaks you. Was he going to be a man or a boy?'' Eventually, Beard realized he was the only one who could revive himself. Less than a year later, he's back to his old self — upbeat, confident and talking about becoming a starting running back in the NFL. On Monday, Beard reported for the first day of offseason workouts with the Denver Broncos. Making the Broncos won't be easy — Denver has two other proven running backs on its roster — but Beard finally has the big shot he hoped for. He said he's not about to let it slip away this time. A regrettable decision Beard said if he'd known how things would turn out at Alabama, he probably never would have left school after his junior season to enter the draft. But when Alabama hired Coach Mike Price, the writing was on the wall for Beard. Price loved the passing game. Beard, of course, wanted to run. Beard examined the list of draft-eligible running backs, decided it wasn't an especially deep class and made himself eligible. Price was eventually fired amid scandal, and was replaced by ground-game loving Mike Shula. ''If I had known that was going to happen, I probably would have stayed in school,'' Beard said. ''Some people said I got bad advice and came out, but that was all me.'' The biggest mistake of Beard's young life was yet to come. Less than a month before the NFL combine, where top prospects are invited to workout and meet with NFL teams, Beard was in Atlanta working out with a friend. They were also having a good time, including smoking marijuana. Not long after he arrived at the combine in Indianapolis, Beard realized he would have to pay for his poor judgment — and this time for some bad advice. ''I didn't even know I was going to take a drug test. I had no idea. I am not blaming anyone but myself, but a guy I was working out with in Nashville told me that I wasn't going to have to take one,'' Beard said. ''I knew I wasn't going to pass it. I knew I had smoked and there wasn't enough time for it to get out of my system. I knew right then and there I was going to fail it.'' A few weeks later, a letter from the NFL confirmed his fears. His buddy in Atlanta, another draft hopeful, got a similar letter. Beard began to brace for the worst. Downward spiral Before the combine, Beard thought he might be drafted somewhere in the first three rounds. After the drug test, he still believed he'd be selected around the sixth round. At Alabama Beard rushed 678 yards as a sophomore and 811 yards as a junior. Despite splitting snaps with other running backs he had provided flashes of brilliance for the Crimson Tide, including a five-touchdown game against Ole Miss and a 199-yard outing against Auburn. But it was all for naught in the eyes of NFL teams, who were more concerned about his drug test and a DUI arrest in 2001. He was also deserted by some of those who earlier had cheered him on. ''He had some fair-weathered friends,'' said his aunt, Helen Beard. ''He had some friends that wanted a piece of him when he was in the limelight, but when h
[RollTideFan] Fulmer sued
http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1081502469157310.xml Cottrell case spawns suit against Vols' Fulmer 04/09/04 MIKE PERRIN News staff writer TUSCALOOSA - In what an attorney called a "spinoff" from the Ronnie Cottrell-Ivy Williams lawsuit against the NCAA, a libel suit was filed Thursday in Tuscaloosa County Circuit Court against Tennessee football coach Phillip Fulmer, the NCAA and others. Attorneys Thomas Gallion and Delaine Mountain filed the lawsuit on behalf of former Alabama football prospect and University of Tennessee player Kenny Smith, his father, Kenneth W. Smith, and his mother, Vicki Smith Dagnan. Among other things, the eight-count suit alleges libel, slander and invasion of privacy. The suit seeks $40 million in damages and names Fulmer, the NCAA, the American Football Coaches Association, NCAA investigator Richard Johanningmeier, NCAA spokesman Wallace Renfro, NCAA President Myles Brand and free-lance recruiting analyst Tom Culpepper as defendants. Culpepper, the NCAA and Johanningmeier are also defendants in the Cottrell-Williams suit. "This is a spinoff of the other suit," Mountain said. "They are separate lawsuits with separate clients." In the Cottrell suit, Gallion said Thursday that negotiations with defendants Gene Marsh and Marie Robbins could soon result in those University of Alabama employees being dropped from the case. "It could all blow up, but that's where it appears to be going," he said. The defamation alleged in the Smith-Dagnan suit - Dagnan is Kenneth W. Smith's ex-wife - comes from statements made by Fulmer as a confidential witness in the NCAA's investigation of Alabama's football program. Fulmer's statements were released as part of the NCAA documents from disassociated Alabama booster Logan Young's criminal case in Memphis. The suit claims that in an interview with Johanningmeier, Fulmer "in effect, allege(s) that plaintiff Vicki Smith Dagnan engaged in an extra-marital affair" with an assistant University of Alabama football coach. The suit says Renfro, acting on behalf of Brand and the NCAA, "invaded the privacy of plaintiff Kenny Smith by publicly releasing information about his academic records at the University of Tennessee on a national television broadcast on ESPN." It also accuses Renfro of making false statements about the younger Smith on ESPN's "Outside the Lines" when he said "the NCAA actually talked to a number of people at Tennessee. Kenny Smith Jr. actually refused to talk with the NCAA." Smith said he was never contacted by the NCAA and never refused to be interviewed. Fulmer and the American Football Coaches Association filed for a declaratory judgment against the Smiths in Knoxville after Fulmer received a request from Mountain for a retraction of the statement about Dagnan. That lawsuit claims that any confidential statements made in the course of an NCAA investigation should have the same protection that witnesses in legal proceedings have. The Smith-Dagnan suit also asks for a court order to stop the Knoxville lawsuit. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
That was a figure of speech, Joseph. Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > Hmm, they did when I was in school. But I got part of my schooling in NC. > I moved back to Bama when I was 14. > Joe > Joe > Wish not so much to live long as to live well. > > - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > > > > Joe, > > > > They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school. > > > > Slef E. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > > > > > > > I agree. Parents are the main problem. But a federal government agency > > > dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help. The don't > > > teach American History anymore. Or at least not enough of it. What > else > > > have they phased out of the curriculum? > > > > > > > > __ > > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit > http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
They also don't teach basic math. Try going somewhere that they don't have computerized cash registers that tell the cashier how much change to give back. You're in for a long wait. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > Joe, > > They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school. > > Slef E. > > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614) > > > > I agree. Parents are the main problem. But a federal government agency > > dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help. The don't > > teach American History anymore. Or at least not enough of it. What else > > have they phased out of the curriculum? > > > > __ > RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List > > "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" > > To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net > __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net