Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)

2004-04-09 Thread Joe Goodson
oh
Wish not so much to live long as to live well.

  - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746


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> That was a figure of speech, Joseph.
>
> Slef E.
>
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> > Hmm, they did when I was in school.   But I got part of my schooling in
NC.
> > I moved back to Bama when I was 14.
> > Joe
> > Joe
> > Wish not so much to live long as to live well.
> >
> >   - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746
> >
> >
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> >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school.
> > >
> > > Slef E.
> > >
> > > - Original Message - 
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> > >
> > > > I agree.  Parents are the main problem.  But a federal government
agency
> > > > dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help.  The
don't
> > > > teach American History anymore.  Or at least not enough of it.  What
> > else
> > > > have they phased out of the curriculum?
> > >
> > >
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RE: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron

2004-04-09 Thread Ron Rice
True.  True.

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Subject: [RollTideFan] Deere Ron

Why Dogs Rule:

1. Dogs are never permitted in the house. The dog stays outside in a
specially built wooden compartment named, for very good reason, the dog
house.

2. Okay, the dog can enter the house, but only for short visits or if
his
own house is under renovation.

3. Okay, the dog can stay in the house on a permanent basis, provided
his
dog house can be sold in a yard sale to a rookie dog owner.

4. Inside the house, the dog is not allowed to run free and is confined
to a
comfortable but secure metal cage.

5. Okay, the cage becomes part of a two-for-one deal along with the dog
house in the yard sale, and the dog can go wherever he pleases.

6. The dog is never allowed on the furniture.

7. Okay, the dog can get on the old furniture but not the new furniture.

8. Okay, the dog can get up on the new furniture until it looks like the
old
furniture and then we'll sell the entire works and buy new
furniture...upon
which the dog will most definitely not be allowed.

9. The dog never sleeps on the bed. Period.

10. Okay, the dog can sleep at the foot of the bed.

11. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you, but he's not allowed under
the
covers.

12. Okay, the dog can sleep under the covers but not with his head on
the
pillow.

13. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you under the covers with his head
on
the pillow, but if he snores he's got to leave the room.

14. Okay, the dog can sleep and snore and have nightmares in bed, but
he's
not to come in and sleep on the couch in the TV room, where I'm now
sleeping. That's just not fair.

15. The dog never gets listed on the census questionnaire as "primary
resident," even if it's true.



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[RollTideFan] Deere Ron

2004-04-09 Thread Pat Smoot
Why Dogs Rule:

1. Dogs are never permitted in the house. The dog stays outside in a
specially built wooden compartment named, for very good reason, the dog
house.

2. Okay, the dog can enter the house, but only for short visits or if his
own house is under renovation.

3. Okay, the dog can stay in the house on a permanent basis, provided his
dog house can be sold in a yard sale to a rookie dog owner.

4. Inside the house, the dog is not allowed to run free and is confined to a
comfortable but secure metal cage.

5. Okay, the cage becomes part of a two-for-one deal along with the dog
house in the yard sale, and the dog can go wherever he pleases.

6. The dog is never allowed on the furniture.

7. Okay, the dog can get on the old furniture but not the new furniture.

8. Okay, the dog can get up on the new furniture until it looks like the old
furniture and then we'll sell the entire works and buy new furniture...upon
which the dog will most definitely not be allowed.

9. The dog never sleeps on the bed. Period.

10. Okay, the dog can sleep at the foot of the bed.

11. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you, but he's not allowed under the
covers.

12. Okay, the dog can sleep under the covers but not with his head on the
pillow.

13. Okay, the dog can sleep alongside you under the covers with his head on
the pillow, but if he snores he's got to leave the room.

14. Okay, the dog can sleep and snore and have nightmares in bed, but he's
not to come in and sleep on the couch in the TV room, where I'm now
sleeping. That's just not fair.

15. The dog never gets listed on the census questionnaire as "primary
resident," even if it's true.



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[RollTideFan] TGIF Groaner - (NonBama)

2004-04-09 Thread TIDE1

No *stupid joke Groaner* today - BUT - Take the following "Quiz" and you
may "GROAN"...

Subject: Quiz ... kind of tough?

1. There's one "sport" in which neither the spectators nor the:
participants know the score or the leader until the contest ends. What
is it?
 
2. What famous North American landmark is constantly moving backward?

3. Of all vegetables, only two can live to produce on their own for
several growing seasons. All other vegetables must be replanted every
year. What are the only two perennial vegetables?
 
4. Name the only sport in which the ball is always in possession of the
team on defense, and the offensive team can score without touching the
ball?
 
5. What fruit has its seeds! on the outside?
 
6. In many liquor stores, you can buy pear brandy, with a real pear
inside the bottle. The pear is whole and ripe, and the bottle is
genuine; it hasn't been cut in any way.  How did the pear get inside
the bottle?

7. Only three words in standard English begin with the letters "dw."
They are all common. Name two of them.

8. There are fourteen punctuation marks in English grammar. Can you name
half of them?

9. Where are the lakes that are referred to in the "Los Angeles Lakers?"

10. There are seven ways a baseball player can legally reach first base
without getting a hit. Taking a base on balls--a walk--is one way. Name
the other six.
 
11. It's the only vegetable or fruit that is never sold frozen, canned,
processed, cooked, or in any other form but fresh. What is it?

12. Name six or more things that you can wear on your feet that! begin
with the letter "S."
:
:
:
"Answers To Quiz"

1. There's one "sport" in which neither the spectators nor the
participants know the score or the leader until the contest ends. What
is it? Boxing.

2. What famous North American landmark is constantly moving backward?
Niagara Falls. The rim is worn down about two and a half feet each year
because of the millions of gallons of water that rush over it every
minute.

3. Of all vegetables, only two can live to produce on their own for
several growing seasons. All other vegetables must be replanted every
year. What are the only two perennial vegetables? Asparagus and rhubarb.

4. Name the only sport in which the ball is always in possession of the
team on defense, and the offensive team can score without touching the
ball? Baseball.

5. What fruit has its seeds on the outside? Strawberry.

6. In many liquor stores, you can buy pear brandy, with a real pear
inside the bottle. The pear is whole and ripe, and the bottle is
genuine; it hasn't been cut in any way. How did the pear get inside the
bottle? The pear grew inside the bottle. The bottles are placed over
pear buds when they are small, and are wired in place on the tree. The
bottle is left in place for the whole growing season. When the pears are
ripe, they are snipped off
at the stems.

7. Only three words in standard English begin with the letters "dw."
They are all common. Name two of them. Dwarf, dwell, and dwindle.

8. There are fourteen punctuation marks in English grammar. Can you name
half of them? Period, comma, colon, semicolon, dash, hyphen, apostrophe,
question mark, exclamation point, quotation marks, brackets,
parenthesis, braces, and ellipses.

9. Where are the lakes that are referred to ! in the "Los Angeles
Lakers?" In Minnesota. The team was originally known as the Minneapolis
Lakers and kept the name when they moved west.

10. There are seven ways a baseball player can legally reach first base
without getting a hit. Taking a base on balls--a walk--is one way. Name
the other six. Batter hit by a pitch; passed ball; catcher interference;
catcher drops third strike; fielder's choice; and being designated as a
pinch runner.

11. It's the only vegetable or fruit that is never sold frozen, canned,
processed, cooked, or in any other form but fresh. What is it? Lettuce.

12. Name six or more things that you can wear on your feet that begin
with the letter "S." Shoes, socks, sandals, sneakers, slippers, skis,
skates, snowshoes, stockings, stilts.
...

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[RollTideFan] Beard up and running

2004-04-09 Thread kurt rasmussen
http://tennessean.com/sports/titans/archives/04/04/49603356.shtml?Element_ID=49603356

   Friday, 04/09/04
Beard up and running
By JIM WYATT
Staff Writer
As a football star at Pearl-Cohn High School in the late 1990s, Santonio 
Beard tasted success and everything that went with it.

The Firebirds won championships. Beard won awards. He had more friends 
than time. With a name as unique as his ability, he was as close to a 
household name in Nashville as a high school athlete has ever been. He 
seemed on the fast track to bigger, better things.

But as Beard sat in his apartment with tears streaming down his face 
last April, he felt 100 years removed from his glory days at Pearl-Cohn 
and the University of Alabama.

His life had changed, and it was about to change even more. A failed 
drug test had put a question mark next to his name leading up to the 
2003 NFL draft, but Beard still didn't give up hope of being selected.

After all 262 picks, however, his name had not been called.

He cried for an hour.

''Then the next day I hit rock bottom,'' Beard said. ''I wasn't going to 
actually do it, but I contemplated wiping myself out. When you have 
something you've worked for your entire life taken away from you, it 
makes you question some things. It seemed like the world was coming to 
an end for me. And I knew it was all my fault because I did something 
really stupid.''

Things got worse before they got better. For weeks, Beard had trouble 
forgiving himself. He said many friends and even some relatives suddenly 
viewed him as a failure and ''went away.''

He shut out those closest to him and became deeply depressed. He moved 
out of his Rivergate apartment because every time he walked in the door 
it took him back to draft day.

''He shut down from me and everyone — he didn't want to talk to 
anybody,'' said his mother, Joan Beard. ''Something like that either 
makes you or breaks you. Was he going to be a man or a boy?''

Eventually, Beard realized he was the only one who could revive himself. 
Less than a year later, he's back to his old self — upbeat, confident 
and talking about becoming a starting running back in the NFL.

On Monday, Beard reported for the first day of offseason workouts with 
the Denver Broncos. Making the Broncos won't be easy — Denver has two 
other proven running backs on its roster — but Beard finally has the big 
shot he hoped for.

He said he's not about to let it slip away this time.

A regrettable decision

Beard said if he'd known how things would turn out at Alabama, he 
probably never would have left school after his junior season to enter 
the draft.

But when Alabama hired Coach Mike Price, the writing was on the wall for 
Beard. Price loved the passing game. Beard, of course, wanted to run.

Beard examined the list of draft-eligible running backs, decided it 
wasn't an especially deep class and made himself eligible. Price was 
eventually fired amid scandal, and was replaced by ground-game loving 
Mike Shula.

''If I had known that was going to happen, I probably would have stayed 
in school,'' Beard said. ''Some people said I got bad advice and came 
out, but that was all me.''

The biggest mistake of Beard's young life was yet to come.

Less than a month before the NFL combine, where top prospects are 
invited to workout and meet with NFL teams, Beard was in Atlanta working 
out with a friend. They were also having a good time, including smoking 
marijuana.

Not long after he arrived at the combine in Indianapolis, Beard realized 
he would have to pay for his poor judgment — and this time for some bad 
advice.

''I didn't even know I was going to take a drug test. I had no idea. I 
am not blaming anyone but myself, but a guy I was working out with in 
Nashville told me that I wasn't going to have to take one,'' Beard said.

''I knew I wasn't going to pass it. I knew I had smoked and there wasn't 
enough time for it to get out of my system. I knew right then and there 
I was going to fail it.''

A few weeks later, a letter from the NFL confirmed his fears. His buddy 
in Atlanta, another draft hopeful, got a similar letter.

Beard began to brace for the worst.

Downward spiral

Before the combine, Beard thought he might be drafted somewhere in the 
first three rounds. After the drug test, he still believed he'd be 
selected around the sixth round.

At Alabama Beard rushed 678 yards as a sophomore and 811 yards as a 
junior. Despite splitting snaps with other running backs he had provided 
flashes of brilliance for the Crimson Tide, including a five-touchdown 
game against Ole Miss and a 199-yard outing against Auburn.

But it was all for naught in the eyes of NFL teams, who were more 
concerned about his drug test and a DUI arrest in 2001. He was also 
deserted by some of those who earlier had cheered him on.

''He had some fair-weathered friends,'' said his aunt, Helen Beard. ''He 
had some friends that wanted a piece of him when he was in the 
limelight, but when h

[RollTideFan] Fulmer sued

2004-04-09 Thread kurt rasmussen
http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1081502469157310.xml

Cottrell case spawns suit against Vols' Fulmer

04/09/04
MIKE PERRIN
News staff writer
TUSCALOOSA - In what an attorney called a "spinoff" from the Ronnie 
Cottrell-Ivy Williams lawsuit against the NCAA, a libel suit was filed 
Thursday in Tuscaloosa County Circuit Court against Tennessee football 
coach Phillip Fulmer, the NCAA and others.

Attorneys Thomas Gallion and Delaine Mountain filed the lawsuit on 
behalf of former Alabama football prospect and University of Tennessee 
player Kenny Smith, his father, Kenneth W. Smith, and his mother, Vicki 
Smith Dagnan. Among other things, the eight-count suit alleges libel, 
slander and invasion of privacy.

The suit seeks $40 million in damages and names Fulmer, the NCAA, the 
American Football Coaches Association, NCAA investigator Richard 
Johanningmeier, NCAA spokesman Wallace Renfro, NCAA President Myles 
Brand and free-lance recruiting analyst Tom Culpepper as defendants.

Culpepper, the NCAA and Johanningmeier are also defendants in the 
Cottrell-Williams suit.

"This is a spinoff of the other suit," Mountain said. "They are separate 
lawsuits with separate clients."

In the Cottrell suit, Gallion said Thursday that negotiations with 
defendants Gene Marsh and Marie Robbins could soon result in those 
University of Alabama employees being dropped from the case.

"It could all blow up, but that's where it appears to be going," he said.

The defamation alleged in the Smith-Dagnan suit - Dagnan is Kenneth W. 
Smith's ex-wife - comes from statements made by Fulmer as a confidential 
witness in the NCAA's investigation of Alabama's football program.

Fulmer's statements were released as part of the NCAA documents from 
disassociated Alabama booster Logan Young's criminal case in Memphis. 
The suit claims that in an interview with Johanningmeier, Fulmer "in 
effect, allege(s) that plaintiff Vicki Smith Dagnan engaged in an 
extra-marital affair" with an assistant University of Alabama football 
coach.

The suit says Renfro, acting on behalf of Brand and the NCAA, "invaded 
the privacy of plaintiff Kenny Smith by publicly releasing information 
about his academic records at the University of Tennessee on a national 
television broadcast on ESPN."

It also accuses Renfro of making false statements about the younger 
Smith on ESPN's "Outside the Lines" when he said "the NCAA actually 
talked to a number of people at Tennessee. Kenny Smith Jr. actually 
refused to talk with the NCAA."

Smith said he was never contacted by the NCAA and never refused to be 
interviewed.

Fulmer and the American Football Coaches Association filed for a 
declaratory judgment against the Smiths in Knoxville after Fulmer 
received a request from Mountain for a retraction of the statement about 
Dagnan. That lawsuit claims that any confidential statements made in the 
course of an NCAA investigation should have the same protection that 
witnesses in legal proceedings have.

The Smith-Dagnan suit also asks for a court order to stop the Knoxville 
lawsuit.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)

2004-04-09 Thread Jeff Todd
That was a figure of speech, Joseph.

Slef E.

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> Hmm, they did when I was in school.   But I got part of my schooling in NC.
> I moved back to Bama when I was 14.
> Joe
> Joe
> Wish not so much to live long as to live well.
> 
>   - Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1746
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jeff Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
> 
> 
> > Joe,
> >
> > They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school.
> >
> > Slef E.
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
> >
> >
> > > I agree.  Parents are the main problem.  But a federal government agency
> > > dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help.  The don't
> > > teach American History anymore.  Or at least not enough of it.  What
> else
> > > have they phased out of the curriculum?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)

2004-04-09 Thread Pat Smoot
They also don't teach basic math.  Try going somewhere that they don't have
computerized cash registers that tell the cashier how much change to give
back.  You're in for a long wait.


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> Joe,
>
> They didn't teach American History when my DADDY was in school.
>
> Slef E.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joe Goodson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Hey...Jobu 602 huh? (Now 614)
>
>
> > I agree.  Parents are the main problem.  But a federal government agency
> > dictating what the schools can and cannot teach doesn't help.  The don't
> > teach American History anymore.  Or at least not enough of it.  What
else
> > have they phased out of the curriculum?
>
>
>
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