Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread PIRATESPT
Moore is your next Governorand I think the affair involving his 
impeachment cost the Alabama attorney general his electoral political future...

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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Jeff Todd

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> I think GW Bush chose
> Cheney for his knowledge and leadership, not for the 3 
> electoral votes he
> could deliver from Montana

er, uh ... how about Wyoming?


> I've long been impressed by Senator Shelby and I saw 
> him interviewed this
> morning and the thought struck me from the interview 
> that he could be
> considering a run.

He's already 71 years old, and too set in his ways. 
Leave the Whitehouse to the 45-60 year old crowd. If he 
wants to run for POTUS, more power to him. I just hope 
he has the decency to step down from the Senate if he 
chooses to run. Not that I don't approve of his work in 
the US Senate, it just that being a US Senator is a FULL 
TIME JOB. At least it's supposed to be.

> My opinion is that if Roy Moore ran, it would be 
> giving the election away.

Don't worry ... just yet. Roy's next move will be into 
the Alabama Governor's mansion, unless George W. Bush 
nominates him to the Supreme Court, first.


Slef E.




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RE: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Tim Boozer
I agree, I could definitely support Guiliani.



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>Guilianihe can take it.
>Joe
>If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not 
>bite you. 
>This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.
>Mark Twain
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>> Shelby should runwhy not!!!There is no point in putting rice on 
>> the
>> ticketshe cant help with the black vote...cause they re all 
>wrapped in 
>> the
>> several cottage industries that make their movement...or their former
>> movement.  My favorite ticket would be all 
>Texas...Gramm/Armey...but that 
>> will never
>> happen!Failing that...Haley Barbour is the one I would give money 
>> to
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RE: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Tim Boozer

>
>
>Tim Boozer wrote:
>
>>What would you folks think about a Richard Shelby run for the
>White House in
>>'08? Maybe an all-Alabama Shelby-Rice ticket?
>>
>>Dumb idea?  not?
>>
>>
>
> I don't think the GOP would run Condi Ricetoo many folks would see
>through the "black woman" thing as a counter to Hillary being the top
>demoncrap
>If the GOP runs one of those ultra conservatives (Roy Moore?) they would
>have a better chance of keeping the White House
>


I just don't really look at it as running whoever is going to appeal to a
certain group just to maintain, or regain, power. I think GW Bush chose
Cheney for his knowledge and leadership, not for the 3 electoral votes he
could deliver from Montana, or the dry, cool-headed, monotone constituency.

I've long been impressed by Senator Shelby and I saw him interviewed this
morning and the thought struck me from the interview that he could be
considering a run. However, in recent times, senators have not had a good
track record of getting elected President, and even though by that point
Condi will have spent 8 years in Washington, she is primarily known as an
academician, not a beltway insider. I think she could add to the ticket, but
I'm also biased by the fact that she is also from Alabama and the
"all-Alabama" ticket thing is intriguing. But my original post wasn't about
Condi, or at least it wasn't meant to be, it was meant to be about Shelby.

My opinion is that if Roy Moore ran, it would be giving the election away.
I, personally, would have a hard time voting for him from what I've seen.


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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Joe Goodson

She is one smart lady.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. 
This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.

Mark Twain
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I wouldn't support putting Rice on the ticket for any segmented vote, I
would favor it because she is extremely qualified.



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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Joe Goodson

good kweshun

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. 
This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.

Mark Twain
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and this is in response to?




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then...you have your rewardsuhpolitical genius that you are...

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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Joe Goodson

Guilianihe can take it.
Joe
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. 
This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.

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Shelby should runwhy not!!!There is no point in putting rice on 
the
ticketshe cant help with the black vote...cause they re all wrapped in 
the

several cottage industries that make their movement...or their former
movement.  My favorite ticket would be all Texas...Gramm/Armey...but that 
will never
happen!Failing that...Haley Barbour is the one I would give money 
to


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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread JVWatts

Tim Boozer wrote:


What would you folks think about a Richard Shelby run for the White House in
'08? Maybe an all-Alabama Shelby-Rice ticket?

Dumb idea?  not?
 



I don't think the GOP would run Condi Ricetoo many folks would see 
through the "black woman" thing as a counter to Hillary being the top 
demoncrap
If the GOP runs one of those ultra conservatives (Roy Moore?) they would 
have a better chance of keeping the White House


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RE: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Tim Boozer
and this is in response to?



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>then...you have your rewardsuhpolitical genius that you are...
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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread PIRATESPT
There you go!I still think he ll get offlol.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread PIRATESPT
then...you have your rewardsuhpolitical genius that you are...

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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Jeff Todd
I prefer a Shelby / Roy Moore ticket, with Richard 
Scrushy as Chief of Staff.

Slef E.

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> What would you folks think about a Richard Shelby run 
> for the White House in
> '08? Maybe an all-Alabama Shelby-Rice ticket?
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> Dumb idea?  not?
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RE: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Tim Boozer
I wouldn't support putting Rice on the ticket for any segmented vote, I
would favor it because she is extremely qualified.



>
>
>Shelby should runwhy not!!!There is no point in putting
>rice on the
>ticketshe cant help with the black vote...cause they re all
>wrapped in the
>several cottage industries that make their movement...or their former
>movement.  My favorite ticket would be all
>Texas...Gramm/Armey...but that will never
>happen!Failing that...Haley Barbour is the one I would give
>money to
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Re: [RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread PIRATESPT
Shelby should runwhy not!!!There is no point in putting rice on the 
ticketshe cant help with the black vote...cause they re all wrapped in the 
several cottage industries that make their movement...or their former 
movement.  My favorite ticket would be all Texas...Gramm/Armey...but that will 
never 
happen!Failing that...Haley Barbour is the one I would give money to

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[RollTideFan] Off Topic polital yappin'

2005-05-22 Thread Tim Boozer
What would you folks think about a Richard Shelby run for the White House in
'08? Maybe an all-Alabama Shelby-Rice ticket?

Dumb idea?  not?


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[RollTideFan] Single game football tickets

2005-05-22 Thread kurtrasmussen
Looks like ya can already order some to a couple of the body-bag games. 
(Utah State is HC BTW)


http://ev10.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventList?groupCode=FB-F05&linkID=ubama&shopperContext=&caller=&appCode=

kurt

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[RollTideFan] CECIL HURT: Big Ten does little wrong in eyes of NCAA

2005-05-22 Thread kurtrasmussen

http://tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050522/NEWS/505220386/1011

CECIL HURT: Big Ten does little wrong in eyes of NCAA
May 22, 2005


It seems that I might owe the NCAA Enforcement Staff an apology./sDuring 
the Logan Young trial in Memphis, I wrote that members of the 
Enforcement Staff “were probably monitoring the case -- unless they were 
too busy whitewashing the pending Ohio State case."


Well, it turns out that I was right about what they were doing, not that 
predicting a whitewash took any great insight. But where I transgressed 
was in underestimating their speed and efficiency. After all, I wrote 
that in late January -- and the NCAA’s enforcement guys had already 
wrapped up their “investigation" into Maurice Clarett in time to beat 
the Christmas rush.


Ohio State, earlier this week, released its official letter of inquiry 
from the NCAA, and that letter included no mention of Clarett, the star 
running back on Ohio State’s 2002 national champions and, most recently, 
a young man who accused the Buckeyes of a long list of NCAA infractions. 
Instead, the letter focused almost entirely on potential basketball 
violations, mentioning football only once.


To be honest, that was so predictable that I originally didn’t even 
intend to write about it. No investigation into Big Ten football ever 
amounts to anything. The last Big Ten football team to receive a 
postseason ban in football was Minnesota in 1991. I’ve probably got 25 
years or so of college football observation left, and I’m likelier to 
see Vanderbilt win a national championship than I am to see a Big Ten 
team get a bowl ban. Just for the record, in the 15 years since it last 
happened, the SEC has seen Alabama (twice), Auburn, Kentucky, Ole Miss 
and Mississippi State receive penalties. It’s reached a point, though, 
where most college football fans just shrug about that inequity. It 
doesn’t make any difference to Alabama, which has served out the 
penalties in its most recent probation. It’s just the way things are.


Of course, Big Ten fans will argue that there have not been any 
penalties because their programs are all pristine. The proof? Well, if 
the NCAA hasn’t imposed any penalties, they must be clean -- or so the 
tautology goes. I don’t know about that. I do know that a Michigan 
booster was paying $600,000 to players in basketball, which isn’t the 
main sport at Michigan. (The NCAA Enforcement Staff’s original finding 
in that case, by the way, was that there were only “secondary 
violations.") I do know that Albert Means’ recruitment was a cesspool 
and the team that traveled the greatest distance to jump in and swim 
around was Michigan State. I do know that Clarett was driving a quick 
succession of nice vehicles while he was playing at Ohio State. So color 
me skeptical about the “pristine" thing.


Nonetheless, the case wasn’t likely to be column material. That was 
until someone at the NCAA decided to comment.


Now, an NCAA comment isn’t all that valuable in and of itself. In the 
first place, it’s probably no better than 50-50 on whether any given 
NCAA official is telling the truth or not. On the other hand, when 
someone at the NCAA does deign to comment about a pending case, it is 
revealing. First, the comment is usually means that the NCAA has been 
stung by some particular criticism. Second, the comment usually reveals 
more about the NCAA agenda than the spokesperson intended to reveal.


That’s what you can tell from the words of David Price, the NCAA vice 
president for enforcement services, earlier this week. Price indicated 
that the NCAA had tried for nearly a month to call Clarett, and he never 
called them back.


“Over the course of a month in November and December 2004, phone calls 
were placed to Mr. Clarett’s reported cell phone numbers, relatives, 
former legal representatives and friends," Price’s statement said. But 
the messages left were never returned. In addition, attempts to contact 
him in person failed."


No kidding, Mr. Price? Your crack staff devoted a whole month to finding 
Clarett, then gave up because he didn’t return a phone call?


That’s a little different than the years spent pursuing some of the 
individuals in the Alabama case. Some of those individuals weren’t too 
co-operative, either, like Lynn Lang, who never said a word to the NCAA 
until after Alabama’s penalties were handed down. In that case, the lack 
of an interview was no deterrent. The NCAA just used “confidential sources."


One thing is obvious, and that’s why the Broncos drafted Maurice Clarett 
as highly as they did. Not only does he seem to be super-strong, since 
he apparently fashioned the SUV’s he drove in college with his bare 
hands, but he is also able to become invisible at will. Considering that 
he was a constant television presence in the build-up to the NFL draft, 
reporters and others seemed able to find him pretty easily. It wasn’t so 
ea