RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
You got that wrong. I ALLOW Sonja to hang out with me at the gonna-be-famous-someday tailgate sessions. She says hanging out with me makes her feel smarter. Some of my intellect must be rubbing off on her -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:27 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Jo-El ain't gonna do that. Since The Queen booted Jo-El from her court of merry men, he has only Blobber to tailgate with. So sad... Slef E. - Original Message - From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Yeah. Just ask her when she GRADUATED from UCLA. I dare you. What degree from UCLA does she actually own and what year did she receive it? She'll tell you that she graduated but will not provide any details because then you can follow up. She doesn't want that... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:40 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Importance: High Jo-El: You should really direct these questions to the all knowing Blobber. She has an extensive back- ground in the music industry. Hell, she lives on Music Row...don'tcha know? PLUS she is a graduate of UCLA! If you don't believe me, just ask her. Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
I got a AirForce friend of mine that they did fine. holy crap batman what a fine.:-o -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM To: 'BamaFanForever'; 'RollTideFan' Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? Story: Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users Saturday, July 19, 2003 WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search) on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday. The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy. Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as fox3j, soccerdog33, clover77 or indepunk74. The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants. The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required. In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as representative recordings of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify for a lawsuit. We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number, said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. It doesn't sound like they're just going after a few big fish. Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major record labels. A new version of Kazaa Lite, free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA. Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same few artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the Internet specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services. The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S. District Court in Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has been forced to reassign employees from elsewhere in the clerk's office to help process paperwork, said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations manager. The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of subpoenas it issued. We are identifying substantial infringers and we're going to whatever entity is providing (Internet) service for that potential infringer, said Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president of business and legal affairs. From there we'll be in a position to begin bringing lawsuits. A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the clerk's office here was functioning more like a clearing house, issuing subpoenas for all over the country. Any civil lawsuits would likely be transferred to a different jurisdiction, spokeswoman Karen Redmond said. Verizon, which has fought the RIAA over the subpoenas with continued legal appeals, said it received at least 150 subpoenas during the last two weeks. There were no subpoenas on file sent to AOL Time Warner Inc., the nation's largest Internet provider and also parent company of Warner Music Group. Earthlink Inc., another of the largest Internet providers, said it has received only three new subpoenas. Depaul University in Chicago was among the few colleges that received such
Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a couple of years now. It isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone accountable except for Kazza since your friend is paying a fee for the music. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? Story: Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users Saturday, July 19, 2003 WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search) on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday. The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy. Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as fox3j, soccerdog33, clover77 or indepunk74. The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants. The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required. In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as representative recordings of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify for a lawsuit. We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number, said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. It doesn't sound like they're just going after a few big fish. Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major record labels. A new version of Kazaa Lite, free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA. Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same few artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the Internet specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services. The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S. District Court in Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has been forced to reassign employees from elsewhere in the clerk's office to help process paperwork, said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations manager. The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of subpoenas it issued. We are identifying substantial infringers and we're going to whatever entity is providing (Internet) service for that potential infringer, said Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president of business and legal affairs. From there we'll be in a position to begin bringing lawsuits. A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the clerk's office here was functioning more like a clearing house, issuing subpoenas for all over the country. Any civil lawsuits would likely be transferred to a different jurisdiction, spokeswoman Karen Redmond said. Verizon, which has fought the RIAA over the subpoenas with continued legal appeals, said it received at least 150 subpoenas during the last two weeks. There were no subpoenas on file sent to AOL Time Warner Inc., the nation's largest Internet provider and also parent
RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
How much and how did they determine the fine? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:05 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I got a AirForce friend of mine that they did fine. holy crap batman what a fine.:-o __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:05 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I got a AirForce friend of mine that they did fine. holy crap batman what a fine.:-o __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
I couldn't believe it at first either, I thought he bull shitting me. and you know if you a service member hell they already have you. they will dock your wages and sorts of crap. I almost started doing that Kazza stuff, but when heard that. I locked up on that. Will -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:47 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
U R screwed [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
When I had Kaaza on my machine I had it set not to share any files. I only used it to download. Not share. The article you quoted sounded like they are going after the folks who share the songs. If I were your friend, I would save my mp3 files to a new folder and uninstall/delete the program until all this blows over. ymmv kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
No more bizness 4 you then!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:59 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh U R screwed [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Scott, why type of law do you practice? Do you give your clients that same warm fuzzy feeling of protection? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh U R screwed [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Well at least he put it plane and simple, not butt shitting around the tree. Will -Original Message- From: Pat Smoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:16 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Scott, why type of law do you practice? Do you give your clients that same warm fuzzy feeling of protection? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh U R screwed [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Butt, butt, butt youaxed for an opinion. Then you don't like the answer and now my chillin won't have no school shoes... ScR ---Original Message--- From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 10:10 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh No more bizness 4 you then!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:59 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh U R screwed [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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I tell the truth ScR ---Original Message--- From: Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 10:15 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Scott, why type of law do you practice? Do you give your clients that same warm fuzzy feeling of protection? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh U R screwed [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/21/03 09:46 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Gee-Zuss! WTF is up with that!!??? Seems to me that Kazza and the other download sites would be required to notify their members BEFORE any fines were given and allow folks to quit sharing before it became illegal. Seems they made a law and then made it retro-active. C'mon you lawyer people, chime in and give us your outlook. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yates, QM1-William B Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh I think it was about $100,000.00 or so. I will find out just give me time. He lives in Navy housing with me. NOW don't qoute me on that I'm sure it was just to scare them at first. -Original Message- From: Joel Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:30 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh How much and how did they determine the fine? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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- Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? LIE DENY ALIBI Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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Did your girlfriend Blobber and her gang of retards give you any help? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:50 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? L __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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HA! HA! HA! HA! Goot Won Javier! Slef E. - Original Message - From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:04 AM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Did your girlfriend Blobber and her gang of retards give you any help? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:50 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? L __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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Heck naw, they're still amazed that you can actually download music via the Internet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Laborde Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:05 AM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Did your girlfriend Blobber and her gang of retards give you any help? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:50 AM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? L __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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It is free, at least I haven't paid for it. I believe it is up to the site to warn people that it might be illegal. Is there a disclaimer there? I haven't noticed one. RTR LC --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a couple of years now. It isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone accountable except for Kazza since your friend is paying a fee for the music. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? Story: Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users Saturday, July 19, 2003 WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search) on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday. The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy. Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as fox3j, soccerdog33, clover77 or indepunk74. The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants. The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required. In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as representative recordings of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify for a lawsuit. We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number, said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. It doesn't sound like they're just going after a few big fish. Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major record labels. A new version of Kazaa Lite, free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA. Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same few artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the Internet specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services. The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific that the U.S. District Court in Washington, already suffering staff shortages, has been forced to reassign employees from elsewhere in the clerk's office to help process paperwork, said Angela Caesar-Mobley, the clerk's operations manager. The RIAA declined to comment on the numbers of subpoenas it issued. We are identifying substantial infringers and we're going to whatever entity is providing (Internet) service for that potential infringer, said Matt Oppenheim, the group's senior vice president of business and legal affairs. From there we'll be in a position to begin bringing lawsuits. A spokeswoman for the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts said the clerk's office here was functioning more like a clearing house, issuing subpoenas for all over the country. Any civil
RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Free or not, seems to me there should be a period where the owners of the sites (Kazza and Winmx and others) would have to notify the users that sharing is illegal. Not just make up a law and then arrest the masses. BTW , I don't feel that paying for the opportunity to download music makes it any more legal than a free site. The money collected doesn't go to the artists. It goes to the owners of the site. Why not just take the sites off the Net if it is illegal and don't mess with the users. No site = no users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:30 PM To: Pat Smoot; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh It is free, at least I haven't paid for it. I believe it is up to the site to warn people that it might be illegal. Is there a disclaimer there? I haven't noticed one. RTR LC --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a couple of years now. It isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone accountable except for Kazza since your friend is paying a fee for the music. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? Story: Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users Saturday, July 19, 2003 WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search) on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday. The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy. Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as fox3j, soccerdog33, clover77 or indepunk74. The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants. The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required. In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as representative recordings of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify for a lawsuit. We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number, said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. It doesn't sound like they're just going after a few big fish. Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major record labels. A new version of Kazaa Lite, free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman Networks Ltd., can prevent anyone from listing all music files on an individual's machine and purports to block scans from Internet addresses believed to be associated with the RIAA. Many of the subpoenas reviewed by the AP identified songs from the same few artists, including Avril Lavigne, Snoop Dogg and Michael Jackson. It was impossible to determine whether industry lawyers were searching the Internet specifically for songs by these artists or whether they were commonly popular among the roughly 60 million users of file-sharing services. The RIAA's subpoenas are so prolific
Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Jo-El: You should really direct these questions to the all knowing Blobber. She has an extensive back- ground in the music industry. Hell, she lives on Music Row...don'tcha know? PLUS she is a graduate of UCLA! If you don't believe me, just ask her. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Free or not, seems to me there should be a period where the owners of the sites (Kazza and Winmx and others) would have to notify the users that sharing is illegal. Not just make up a law and then arrest the masses. BTW , I don't feel that paying for the opportunity to download music makes it any more legal than a free site. The money collected doesn't go to the artists. It goes to the owners of the site. Why not just take the sites off the Net if it is illegal and don't mess with the users. No site = no users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:30 PM To: Pat Smoot; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh It is free, at least I haven't paid for it. I believe it is up to the site to warn people that it might be illegal. Is there a disclaimer there? I haven't noticed one. RTR LC --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a couple of years now. It isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone accountable except for Kazza since your friend is paying a fee for the music. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? Story: Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users Saturday, July 19, 2003 WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search) on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday. The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy. Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as fox3j, soccerdog33, clover77 or indepunk74. The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants. The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required. In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as representative recordings of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify for a lawsuit. We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number, said Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy and Technology, a civil liberties group that has argued against the subpoenas. It doesn't sound like they're just going after a few big fish. Music fans are fighting back with technology, using new software designed specifically to stymie monitoring of their online activities by the major record labels. A new version of Kazaa Lite, free software that provides access to the service operated by Sharman
RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Here is my delima... Why is it any different than recording music off the radio? Don't give me all this, it is a better recording crap! Who cares how clear it is? If you do, then get outside and do something cause you have been in the dark too long!!! I have tapes that I recorded from years past...all I did was call up the radio station, tell them what I wanted to hear, then sit and listen until it came on.Nobody has put me in jail for that yet. To tell you the truth, I have downloaded music back when Napster was flourishing and due to finding music on the net I went and bought a few CDs that otherwise I wouldn't have even known about! It is just stupid and I would like to see if it has hurt the selling industry or if they are just wanting to gripe! rant off [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joel Perry Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:39 PM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Free or not, seems to me there should be a period where the owners of the sites (Kazza and Winmx and others) would have to notify the users that sharing is illegal. Not just make up a law and then arrest the masses. BTW , I don't feel that paying for the opportunity to download music makes it any more legal than a free site. The money collected doesn't go to the artists. It goes to the owners of the site. Why not just take the sites off the Net if it is illegal and don't mess with the users. No site = no users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:30 PM To: Pat Smoot; RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject:Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh It is free, at least I haven't paid for it. I believe it is up to the site to warn people that it might be illegal. Is there a disclaimer there? I haven't noticed one. RTR LC --- Pat Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daughter has been downloading from Kazza for a couple of years now. It isn't free so I don't see how they can hold anyone accountable except for Kazza since your friend is paying a fee for the music. - Original Message - From: Joel Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BamaFanForever' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'RollTideFan' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh A 'friend' of mine sometimes downloads music from sites like Kazza. My 'friend' is worried that he, I mean, she might get arrested and forced to pay a HuGe fine. Does anyone have any comforting words I could tell my 'friend'? Story: Music Industry Wins 871 Subpoenas Against Internet Users Saturday, July 19, 2003 WASHINGTON - The music industry has won at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users suspected of illegally sharing music files (search) on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday. The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy. Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to identify names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as fox3j, soccerdog33, clover77 or indepunk74. The Recording Industry Association of America (search) has said it expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within the next eight weeks. U.S. copyright laws (search) allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but the RIAA has said it would be open to settlement proposals from defendants. The campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to readily identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files. The 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act permits music companies to force Internet providers to turn over the names of suspected music pirates upon subpoena from any U.S. District Court clerk's office, without a judge's signature required. In some cases, subpoenas cite as few as five songs as representative recordings of music files available for downloading from these users. The trade group for the largest music labels, the Washington-based RIAA, previously indicated its lawyers would target Internet users who offer substantial collections of MP3 song files but declined to say how many songs might qualify for a lawsuit. We would have to look at historic trends, but that is a very high number, said Alan Davidson of the Center
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---Original Message--- From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is my delima... Why is it any different than recording music off the radio? Ask A.S.C.A.P.. They are the ones who started all this with Napster. They even have their own investigators going to bars and other public places checkin what music is being played and if the owners of the joint have paid their fees. That is what it comes down to ... royalty fees and the organization's coffers. ScR __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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I guess it just seems a little trivial to me. I think the recording industry needs to show the public where their revenue has dipped 20% since the invent of these music-downloading sites. BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:55 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh ---Original Message--- From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is my delima... Why is it any different than recording music off the radio? Ask A.S.C.A.P.. They are the ones who started all this with Napster. They even have their own investigators going to bars and other public places checkin what music is being played and if the owners of the joint have paid their fees. That is what it comes down to ... royalty fees and the organization's coffers. ScR __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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Q-104 and a tape recorder! :-) Slef E. - Original Message - From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
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---Original Message--- From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes! Wouldn't know. I refrain from illegal activities. ;-) Wouldn't necessarily trust JoBu's advice either ScR __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
---Original Message--- From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q-104 and a tape recorder! :-) If Slef can do it with his 8-track. ScR __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Dude, I'll have you know I am the most high-tech redneck you have never met! Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Re: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh ---Original Message--- From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Q-104 and a tape recorder! :-) If Slef can do it with his 8-track. ScR __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
I thought you said you tell the truth? (Slick Willy on line 2) ScR/SAR/Scott/whoever you are posted: Wouldn't know. I refrain from illegal activities. ;-) Wouldn't necessarily trust JoBu's advice either From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, what is a good one? I think I need to get some tunes! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: RE: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
---Original Message--- From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought you said you tell the truth? (lick Willy on line 2) What is the truth may be debatable, but get that lick Willy on in the office. :-) ScR __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: RE: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
OK, let's go with (Cig Willie on line 2) ;-) Feel better? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:17 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh ---Original Message--- From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought you said you tell the truth? (lick Willy on line 2) What is the truth may be debatable, but get that lick Willy on in the office. :-) ScR __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re:: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Actually, no. I wuz kida looking forward to the visit ScR ---Original Message--- From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, let's go with (Cig Willie on line 2) ;-) Feel better? __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh
Jo-El ain't gonna do that. Since The Queen booted Jo-El from her court of merry men, he has only Blobber to tailgate with. So sad... Slef E. - Original Message - From: Mike Laborde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 5:24 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Yeah. Just ask her when she GRADUATED from UCLA. I dare you. What degree from UCLA does she actually own and what year did she receive it? She'll tell you that she graduated but will not provide any details because then you can follow up. She doesn't want that... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Todd Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:40 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Music Downloads non-bama, duh Importance: High Jo-El: You should really direct these questions to the all knowing Blobber. She has an extensive back- ground in the music industry. Hell, she lives on Music Row...don'tcha know? PLUS she is a graduate of UCLA! If you don't believe me, just ask her. Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
