Re: [Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-22 Thread Colin Law
On 22 September 2011 02:19, pepe  wrote:
>> Me, I'm betting on the mammals.

I think there are a lot more species of birds (ie dinosaurs) then
there are mammals.

Colin

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Re: [Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-21 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Marc Byrd  wrote:
> Larger companies are reluctant to invest in a technology until it has
> demonstrated some level of stability

yep, because for Big Companies, "stability" is Job 1.

OTOH, smaller (== small-a-'agile') companies are eager to invest in
a technology if it *currently* demonstrates some level of competitive
advantage, because they're in a position to exploit it.

Place y'r bets, ladies and gentlemen, place y'r bets ...  :-)

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Re: [Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-21 Thread Marc Byrd
Larger companies are reluctant to invest in a technology until it has
demonstrated some level of stability from a specification and tools point of
view.  In this light, breakages in backward compatibility may cause a
technology to acquire a bad reputation that in turn impedes its adoption.

m


On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:21 PM, pepe  wrote:

> > Me, I'm betting on the mammals.
>
> Good one! :D
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[Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-21 Thread pepe
> Me, I'm betting on the mammals.

Good one! :D

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[Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-21 Thread pepe
> Me, I'm betting on the mammals.


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Re: [Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-20 Thread Rajarshi
oooh

I am just telling the truth man
the strength of people in CMMi company is less for ROR
Yes rails is awesome as far as i have developed srping struts
rails is much better thna those.

But strength of employee is less man

As
1.Desktop application is not made by rails
As Microsoft and ISO take place.

Microsoft use .net
and for mac ios use cocoa

So only in that case it is far lagged behind others but


for Web development

*RAILS IS THE GOD AND IT WILL *

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Usman Ahmed  wrote:

> Rails is agile. people should actually know this by now
> Rails is different from existing stuff, its the future
> CMMI is good but personally i think rails deserves something different
> and Rails is novel thing , at least where I live, in Pakistan few
> companies are working on Rails
> and in well known freelancing marketplaces theres not much Rails work
> still
> and usually I've seen people start jumping into outsourcing business
> without sufficient knowledge of software development and trying to
> start new companies
>
> these people are utterly unaware of whats going on in the cutting edge
> of web dev.
> they only want to hire a few people, get an internet connection and
> start churning out low quality websites
>
> and this wont stop, middle men in the first world are makin big money
> if they find a company in teh third world which produces stuff at low
> price and fast turnarounds
>
> Rails is awesome. and awesomeness doesnt come cheap.
> plus rails is for highly opinionated people. period.
>
> I'm hoping to see more people coming to rails
>
> On Sep 19, 10:55 pm, Hassan Schroeder 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Rajarshi  wrote:
> > > I mean employee strength
> >
> > BREAKING NEWS: companies burdened with legacy commitments
> > (and fear of change) invest more in legacy technologies.
> >
> > Amazing but true.
> >
> > Me, I'm betting on the mammals.
> >
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[Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-20 Thread Usman Ahmed
Rails is agile. people should actually know this by now
Rails is different from existing stuff, its the future
CMMI is good but personally i think rails deserves something different
and Rails is novel thing , at least where I live, in Pakistan few
companies are working on Rails
and in well known freelancing marketplaces theres not much Rails work
still
and usually I've seen people start jumping into outsourcing business
without sufficient knowledge of software development and trying to
start new companies

these people are utterly unaware of whats going on in the cutting edge
of web dev.
they only want to hire a few people, get an internet connection and
start churning out low quality websites

and this wont stop, middle men in the first world are makin big money
if they find a company in teh third world which produces stuff at low
price and fast turnarounds

Rails is awesome. and awesomeness doesnt come cheap.
plus rails is for highly opinionated people. period.

I'm hoping to see more people coming to rails

On Sep 19, 10:55 pm, Hassan Schroeder 
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Rajarshi  wrote:
> > I mean employee strength
>
> BREAKING NEWS: companies burdened with legacy commitments
> (and fear of change) invest more in legacy technologies.
>
> Amazing but true.
>
> Me, I'm betting on the mammals.
>
> --
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Re: [Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-19 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Rajarshi  wrote:
> I mean employee strength

BREAKING NEWS: companies burdened with legacy commitments
(and fear of change) invest more in legacy technologies.

Amazing but true.

Me, I'm betting on the mammals.

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[Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-19 Thread venkata reddy
What is a big project according to you. Something like Facebook which
is built on php is a big project for you? If you think so,Tumblr is
also built on PHP but failed.
Then what do you say? Does it mean PHP is not scalable?

On Sep 20, 10:37 am, venkata reddy  wrote:
> Dear Rajarshi,
> You know what, Microsoft is big client for TCS. Microsoft will
> deafinitely force TCS to use that technology and TCS has to go
> according to that desperitely.
> There are some big companies behind .net and Java, mind you. People
> started realizing the strength and fun of rails. It will take small
> amount of time for rails to rock in even MNCs not much time.
>
> On Sep 20, 10:30 am, Rajarshi  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I mean employee strength
>
> > .net worked more than 8 Lacs
> > and in ror it is 50
> > <
>
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Rajarshi  wrote:
>
> > > Dear Venkata,
>
> > > can you compare the strength of TCS in ror
> > > and in .net
> > > then u understand the difference
>
> > > Thnaks
>
> > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:48 AM, venkata reddy  > > > wrote:
>
> > >> Dear Rajarshi,
> > >>                    MNCs started recruiting ROR people.I heard TCS is
> > >> recruiting 3yr experience rails developers.
> > >> Dont think rails cannot be scalable. Its already proven technology.
>
> > >> On Sep 20, 10:01 am, Rajarshi  wrote:
> > >> > Ok thanks for the information
>
> > >> > But You know the employee strength of java and .net is much more rather
> > >> than
> > >> > ruby on rails for those companies.
>
> > >> > Because ror does not have a capability for big project
>
> > >> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fernando Almeida <
>
> > >> > ferna...@fernandoalmeida.net> wrote:
> > >> > > These companies are not freelancers
> > >> > >http://blog.obiefernandez.com/content/2008/03/big-name-compan.html
>
> > >> > > 2011/9/20 Rajarshi 
>
> > >> > >> I think ROR is not For a big project tools
> > >> > >> That's why it is only use for freelance
>
> > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Rajarshi 
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> > >>> Thnaks for our reply
>
> > >> > >>> can you ask for me?
>
> > >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Hassan Schroeder <
> > >> > >>> hassan.schroe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >  On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Rajarshi 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >  > Why CMM level 5 Companies not working in ruby on rails rather
> > >> than
> > >> >  they
> > >> >  > worked in java or .net
>
> > >> >  > And if any big company is working the strength of employees are
> > >> much
> > >> >  less in
> > >> >  > India why it is?
>
> > >> >  Maybe you should be asking those companies  :-)
>
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[Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-19 Thread venkata reddy
Dear Rajarshi,
You know what, Microsoft is big client for TCS. Microsoft will
deafinitely force TCS to use that technology and TCS has to go
according to that desperitely.
There are some big companies behind .net and Java, mind you. People
started realizing the strength and fun of rails. It will take small
amount of time for rails to rock in even MNCs not much time.

On Sep 20, 10:30 am, Rajarshi  wrote:
> I mean employee strength
>
> .net worked more than 8 Lacs
> and in ror it is 50
> <
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Rajarshi  wrote:
>
> > Dear Venkata,
>
> > can you compare the strength of TCS in ror
> > and in .net
> > then u understand the difference
>
> > Thnaks
>
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:48 AM, venkata reddy  > > wrote:
>
> >> Dear Rajarshi,
> >>                    MNCs started recruiting ROR people.I heard TCS is
> >> recruiting 3yr experience rails developers.
> >> Dont think rails cannot be scalable. Its already proven technology.
>
> >> On Sep 20, 10:01 am, Rajarshi  wrote:
> >> > Ok thanks for the information
>
> >> > But You know the employee strength of java and .net is much more rather
> >> than
> >> > ruby on rails for those companies.
>
> >> > Because ror does not have a capability for big project
>
> >> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fernando Almeida <
>
> >> > ferna...@fernandoalmeida.net> wrote:
> >> > > These companies are not freelancers
> >> > >http://blog.obiefernandez.com/content/2008/03/big-name-compan.html
>
> >> > > 2011/9/20 Rajarshi 
>
> >> > >> I think ROR is not For a big project tools
> >> > >> That's why it is only use for freelance
>
> >> > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Rajarshi 
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > >>> Thnaks for our reply
>
> >> > >>> can you ask for me?
>
> >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Hassan Schroeder <
> >> > >>> hassan.schroe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >  On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Rajarshi 
> >> wrote:
> >> >  > Why CMM level 5 Companies not working in ruby on rails rather
> >> than
> >> >  they
> >> >  > worked in java or .net
>
> >> >  > And if any big company is working the strength of employees are
> >> much
> >> >  less in
> >> >  > India why it is?
>
> >> >  Maybe you should be asking those companies  :-)
>
> >> >  --
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> >> hassan.schroe...@gmail.com
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> >> >  twitter: @hassan
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Re: [Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-19 Thread Rajarshi
I mean employee strength

.net worked more than 8 Lacs
and in ror it is 50
<


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Rajarshi  wrote:

>
> Dear Venkata,
>
> can you compare the strength of TCS in ror
> and in .net
> then u understand the difference
>
> Thnaks
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:48 AM, venkata reddy  > wrote:
>
>> Dear Rajarshi,
>>MNCs started recruiting ROR people.I heard TCS is
>> recruiting 3yr experience rails developers.
>> Dont think rails cannot be scalable. Its already proven technology.
>>
>> On Sep 20, 10:01 am, Rajarshi  wrote:
>> > Ok thanks for the information
>> >
>> > But You know the employee strength of java and .net is much more rather
>> than
>> > ruby on rails for those companies.
>> >
>> > Because ror does not have a capability for big project
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fernando Almeida <
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ferna...@fernandoalmeida.net> wrote:
>> > > These companies are not freelancers
>> > >http://blog.obiefernandez.com/content/2008/03/big-name-compan.html
>> >
>> > > 2011/9/20 Rajarshi 
>> >
>> > >> I think ROR is not For a big project tools
>> > >> That's why it is only use for freelance
>> >
>> > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Rajarshi 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> Thnaks for our reply
>> >
>> > >>> can you ask for me?
>> >
>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Hassan Schroeder <
>> > >>> hassan.schroe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >  On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Rajarshi 
>> wrote:
>> >  > Why CMM level 5 Companies not working in ruby on rails rather
>> than
>> >  they
>> >  > worked in java or .net
>> >
>> >  > And if any big company is working the strength of employees are
>> much
>> >  less in
>> >  > India why it is?
>> >
>> >  Maybe you should be asking those companies  :-)
>> >
>> >  --
>> >  Hassan Schroeder 
>> hassan.schroe...@gmail.com
>> > http://about.me/hassanschroeder
>> >  twitter: @hassan
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Re: [Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-19 Thread Rajarshi
Dear Venkata,

can you compare the strength of TCS in ror
and in .net
then u understand the difference

Thnaks

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:48 AM, venkata reddy
wrote:

> Dear Rajarshi,
>MNCs started recruiting ROR people.I heard TCS is
> recruiting 3yr experience rails developers.
> Dont think rails cannot be scalable. Its already proven technology.
>
> On Sep 20, 10:01 am, Rajarshi  wrote:
> > Ok thanks for the information
> >
> > But You know the employee strength of java and .net is much more rather
> than
> > ruby on rails for those companies.
> >
> > Because ror does not have a capability for big project
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fernando Almeida <
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ferna...@fernandoalmeida.net> wrote:
> > > These companies are not freelancers
> > >http://blog.obiefernandez.com/content/2008/03/big-name-compan.html
> >
> > > 2011/9/20 Rajarshi 
> >
> > >> I think ROR is not For a big project tools
> > >> That's why it is only use for freelance
> >
> > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Rajarshi  wrote:
> >
> > >>> Thnaks for our reply
> >
> > >>> can you ask for me?
> >
> > >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Hassan Schroeder <
> > >>> hassan.schroe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Rajarshi 
> wrote:
> >  > Why CMM level 5 Companies not working in ruby on rails rather than
> >  they
> >  > worked in java or .net
> >
> >  > And if any big company is working the strength of employees are
> much
> >  less in
> >  > India why it is?
> >
> >  Maybe you should be asking those companies  :-)
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[Rails] Re: RUBY on Rails CMM level company does not have much employees

2011-09-19 Thread venkata reddy
Dear Rajarshi,
MNCs started recruiting ROR people.I heard TCS is
recruiting 3yr experience rails developers.
Dont think rails cannot be scalable. Its already proven technology.

On Sep 20, 10:01 am, Rajarshi  wrote:
> Ok thanks for the information
>
> But You know the employee strength of java and .net is much more rather than
> ruby on rails for those companies.
>
> Because ror does not have a capability for big project
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fernando Almeida <
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ferna...@fernandoalmeida.net> wrote:
> > These companies are not freelancers
> >http://blog.obiefernandez.com/content/2008/03/big-name-compan.html
>
> > 2011/9/20 Rajarshi 
>
> >> I think ROR is not For a big project tools
> >> That's why it is only use for freelance
>
> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Rajarshi  wrote:
>
> >>> Thnaks for our reply
>
> >>> can you ask for me?
>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Hassan Schroeder <
> >>> hassan.schroe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Rajarshi  wrote:
>  > Why CMM level 5 Companies not working in ruby on rails rather than
>  they
>  > worked in java or .net
>
>  > And if any big company is working the strength of employees are much
>  less in
>  > India why it is?
>
>  Maybe you should be asking those companies  :-)
>
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