Re: [rules-users] Drools With Spring Framework Problem

2007-02-20 Thread Niyas

I have tried of using the sample coding given the link given by you:
But i am getting the following error:
org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error
creating bean with name 'ruleBase' defined in ServletContext resource
[/WEB-INF/insurance-servlet.xml]: Initialization of bean failed;
nested exception is java.lang.RuntimeException: Operator '40' does not
exist for StringEvaluator

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:403)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:233)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:145)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactory.preInstantiateSingletons(DefaultListableBeanFactory.java:277)

org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractApplicationContext.java:313)

org.springframework.web.context.support.AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.java:139)

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.createWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:306)

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:251)

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initServletBean(FrameworkServlet.java:220)

org.springframework.web.servlet.HttpServletBean.init(HttpServletBean.java:112)
javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:211)

org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105)

org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:148)

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:869)

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java:664)

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:527)

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java:80)

org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:684)
java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)

My insurance-servlet.xml:
beans
!-- default handlermapping --
bean id=beanNameUrlMapping
class=org.springframework.web.servlet.handler.BeanNameUrlHandlerMapping/

bean name=/home.htm class=com.sample.InsuranceController
singleton=false
property name=ruleBase
ref bean=ruleBase/
/property
property name=insurBean
ref bean=insurance/
/property
/bean

!-- View Resolver --
bean id=viewResolver
class=org.springframework.web.servlet.view.InternalResourceViewResolver
property name=prefix
value/WEB-INF/jsp//value
/property
property name=suffix
value.jsp/value
/property   
/bean

!-- Bean -- 
bean id=insurance class=com.sample.InsuranceBean/


bean id=ruleBase class=com.sample.RuleBaseBeanFactory
property name=drlResourceList
list
value 
type=org.springframework.core.io.Resourceclasspath:/com/sample/Approval.drl/value
/list
/property

property name=packageBuilderConfiguration
bean 
class=org.drools.compiler.PackageBuilderConfiguration
property name=javaLanguageLevel value=1.5/
/bean
/property
/bean   
/beans



On 2/19/07, Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Check out 'Spring Modules' subproject - it has a DROOLS integration module.
Haven't used it myself yet, so not sure whether it's mature/compatible with
most recent release.

https://springmodules.dev.java.net/docs/reference/0.7/html/jsr94.html#d0e570
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Sent: 19 February 2007 09:49
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Subject: [rules-users] Drools With Spring Framework Problem

Hi all,

I am in need of integrating Drools JBoss Rule Engine with Spring Framework.
I have tried sample rule engine examples in the Drools in the
standalone with the help od drools IDE for eclipse 3.2.
And I also tried some example in the Spring Framework,to know how it
works. I have tried some examples in IOC, MVC and JDBC in the spring
framework.

Now, I want to use both Drools and Spring Framework in 

Re: [rules-users] exists + normal column constraints - how many times a rule is cal led in the end????

2007-02-20 Thread nicolae oana
Vlad,

exists Person(role == parent)  

checks if in workingMemory is at least one Person fact having  attribute role 
== parent, in both your examples.

Your reasoning is correct: the four facts with role ==child will activate the 
rule. So, the result for your second example will be the same as the first 
result, for your list of facts, no matter how you switch the columns.

Regards,
   Oana

Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi,
   
  I’m not sure my understanding of ‘existential quantifiers’ is correct. 
Hopefully, someone can clear it up a bit…
   
  Providing I have the following fact class:
   
  Person(role: parent/child, name)
   
  And following facts:
   
  1: parent, John
  2: parent, Alice
  3: parent, Steve
  4: parent, Jane
  5: child, Eric
  6: child, Rob
  7: child, May
  8: child, April
   
  I expect the rule
   
  Rule “iterate children if at least one parent is found”
  When
  exists Person(role == ‘parent’)
  $child: Person(role == ‘child’)
  Then
  // do smth for each $child if at least one parent is found
  End
   
   
  To iterate through all ‘child’ persons (facts 5 through 8), ie the action 
will be called exactly 4 times. Is this correct? What would happen if I swap 
the order of the conditions (with ‘parent exists’ constrain going _after_ 
‘child’ constraint):
   
  When
  $child: Person(role == ‘child’)
  exists Person(role == ‘parent’)
   
  Thanks,
   
  Vlad
  
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Re: [rules-users] 3.1-M1

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Proctor
The XSD is out of date, it's normally in META-INF dir in 
drools-compiler. I got stuck at the point of trying to make it work with 
multi restrictiction connective field constraints work, so if anyone 
wants to finish that work for me :) Likewise the XML Parser has not yet 
been updated for any of the new Conditional Elements or other language 
features.


Mark
Francesco Campagnola wrote:

Hi,
I'm searching for a new version of the XSD of Drools, a kind of 
drools-3.1.xsd with the new operators' definitions (collect, 
accumulate...).
I've seen that the M1 source package still contains the old version of 
this XSD.


I'd like to know if a new version is available (and where i can find it),
or if not when is scheduled a new release?

Thanks in advance.

2007/2/19, Mark Proctor  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


3.1-M1 is now avaliable. M1 provides an unstable snapshot release of
trunk and the features todate.

Please see the Release Notes and Downloads for more information:
Release Notes -
http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=3.1M1ReleaseNotes
http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=3.1M1ReleaseNotes
Downloads - http://labs.jboss.com/portal/jbossrules/downloads

Happy Drooling
The JBoss Rules Team


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Re: [rules-users] Drools With Spring Framework Problem

2007-02-20 Thread Edson Tirelli
  
   Hi Niyas,


   This is something I faced yesterday but did not had the time to work 
on it yet. Basically, 2 problems:


1. Error message is crap... we need to improve that.

2. It should not be raising any error. The error means you have a String 
attribute you are trying to compare using operators like , , =, =. 
Example:


Person( name  'Edson' )

   And I think the above should work but is not working. I will open a 
JIRA for that.
   Meanwhile, if you need to have such constraint, a workaround is to 
use a predicate:


Person( $n : name, ( $n.compareTo( 'Edson' )  0 ) )

   []s
   Edson


Niyas wrote:


I have tried of using the sample coding given the link given by you:
But i am getting the following error:
org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error
creating bean with name 'ruleBase' defined in ServletContext resource
[/WEB-INF/insurance-servlet.xml]: Initialization of bean failed;
nested exception is java.lang.RuntimeException: Operator '40' does not
exist for StringEvaluator
org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:403) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:233) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:145) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactory.preInstantiateSingletons(DefaultListableBeanFactory.java:277) 

org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractApplicationContext.java:313) 

org.springframework.web.context.support.AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.java:139) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.createWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:306) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:251) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initServletBean(FrameworkServlet.java:220) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.HttpServletBean.init(HttpServletBean.java:112) 


javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:211)
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105) 

org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:148) 

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:869) 

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java:664) 

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:527) 

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java:80) 

org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:684) 


java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)

My insurance-servlet.xml:
beans
!-- default handlermapping --
bean id=beanNameUrlMapping
class=org.springframework.web.servlet.handler.BeanNameUrlHandlerMapping/ 



bean name=/home.htm class=com.sample.InsuranceController
singleton=false
property name=ruleBase
ref bean=ruleBase/
/property
property name=insurBean
ref bean=insurance/
/property
/bean

!-- View Resolver --
bean id=viewResolver
class=org.springframework.web.servlet.view.InternalResourceViewResolver 


property name=prefix
value/WEB-INF/jsp//value   
/property

property name=suffix
value.jsp/value
/property   
/bean

!-- Bean --   
bean id=insurance class=com.sample.InsuranceBean/



bean id=ruleBase class=com.sample.RuleBaseBeanFactory
property name=drlResourceList
list
value 
type=org.springframework.core.io.Resourceclasspath:/com/sample/Approval.drl/value 


/list
/property

property name=packageBuilderConfiguration
bean 
class=org.drools.compiler.PackageBuilderConfiguration

property name=javaLanguageLevel value=1.5/
/bean
/property
/bean   
/beans




On 2/19/07, Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Check out 'Spring Modules' subproject - it has a DROOLS integration 
module.
Haven't used it myself yet, so not sure whether it's 
mature/compatible with

most recent release.

https://springmodules.dev.java.net/docs/reference/0.7/html/jsr94.html#d0e570 


9

https://springmodules.dev.java.net/

Vlad


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Sent: 19 February 2007 09:49
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Subject: [rules-users] Drools With Spring Framework Problem

Hi all,

I am in need of integrating Drools JBoss Rule Engine with Spring 
Framework.

I have tried sample rule 

Re: [rules-users] Drools With Spring Framework Problem

2007-02-20 Thread Niyas

Hi Edson,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, you are correct and I have changed the operator  . But I am
getting some other error now.

javax.servlet.ServletException: Servlet.init() for servlet insurance
threw exception

org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105)

org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:148)

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:869)

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java:664)

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:527)

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java:80)

org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:684)
java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)


root cause

org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error
creating bean with name '/home.htm' defined in ServletContext resource
[/WEB-INF/insurance-servlet.xml]: Cannot resolve reference to bean
'ruleBase' while setting bean property 'ruleBase'; nested exception is
org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error
creating bean with name 'ruleBase' defined in ServletContext resource
[/WEB-INF/insurance-servlet.xml]: Initialization of bean failed;
nested exception is java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.CompilationResult.getProblems()[Lorg/eclipse/jdt/core/compiler/CategorizedProblem;

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.BeanDefinitionValueResolver.resolveReference(BeanDefinitionValueResolver.java:190)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.BeanDefinitionValueResolver.resolveValueIfNecessary(BeanDefinitionValueResolver.java:106)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.applyPropertyValues(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:1046)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.populateBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:857)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:378)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:233)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:145)

org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.getBean(AbstractApplicationContext.java:537)

org.springframework.web.servlet.handler.AbstractUrlHandlerMapping.registerHandler(AbstractUrlHandlerMapping.java:186)

org.springframework.web.servlet.handler.BeanNameUrlHandlerMapping.initApplicationContext(BeanNameUrlHandlerMapping.java:62)

org.springframework.context.support.ApplicationObjectSupport.setApplicationContext(ApplicationObjectSupport.java:73)

org.springframework.context.support.ApplicationContextAwareProcessor.postProcessBeforeInitialization(ApplicationContextAwareProcessor.java:84)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.applyBeanPostProcessorsBeforeInitialization(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:277)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:395)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:233)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:145)

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactory.preInstantiateSingletons(DefaultListableBeanFactory.java:283)

org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractApplicationContext.java:313)

org.springframework.web.context.support.AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.java:139)

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.createWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:306)

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:251)

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initServletBean(FrameworkServlet.java:220)

org.springframework.web.servlet.HttpServletBean.init(HttpServletBean.java:112)
javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:211)

org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105)

org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:148)

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:869)

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java:664)


[rules-users] Jar Files Required for Drools?

2007-02-20 Thread Niyas

Hi all,

For using Drools Rule Engine, what are the jar are files required? I
have used Drools JBoss RUle Engine IDE in Eclispe. Now I want to use
it without an IDE. So I want to know what are the required jar files:

1. drools-core.jar
2. drools-compiler.jar
3. drools-decisiontables.jar
4. drools-jsr94.jar

The above jar files are enough..any other to be included..?
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Re: [rules-users] Drools With Spring Framework Problem

2007-02-20 Thread Edson Tirelli


  Niyas,

  This one seems to be a conflict when using JDT and tomcat. Look at 
the JBoss Rules wiki that I believe someone posted a solution for that 
there.


  []s
  Edson

Niyas wrote:


Hi Edson,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes, you are correct and I have changed the operator  . But I am
getting some other error now.

javax.servlet.ServletException: Servlet.init() for servlet insurance
threw exception
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105) 

org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:148) 

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:869) 

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11BaseProtocol.java:664) 

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.PoolTcpEndpoint.processSocket(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:527) 

org.apache.tomcat.util.net.LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.runIt(LeaderFollowerWorkerThread.java:80) 

org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:684) 


java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)


root cause

org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error
creating bean with name '/home.htm' defined in ServletContext resource
[/WEB-INF/insurance-servlet.xml]: Cannot resolve reference to bean
'ruleBase' while setting bean property 'ruleBase'; nested exception is
org.springframework.beans.factory.BeanCreationException: Error
creating bean with name 'ruleBase' defined in ServletContext resource
[/WEB-INF/insurance-servlet.xml]: Initialization of bean failed;
nested exception is java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.CompilationResult.getProblems()[Lorg/eclipse/jdt/core/compiler/CategorizedProblem; 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.BeanDefinitionValueResolver.resolveReference(BeanDefinitionValueResolver.java:190) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.BeanDefinitionValueResolver.resolveValueIfNecessary(BeanDefinitionValueResolver.java:106) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.applyPropertyValues(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:1046) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.populateBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:857) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:378) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:233) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:145) 

org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.getBean(AbstractApplicationContext.java:537) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.handler.AbstractUrlHandlerMapping.registerHandler(AbstractUrlHandlerMapping.java:186) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.handler.BeanNameUrlHandlerMapping.initApplicationContext(BeanNameUrlHandlerMapping.java:62) 

org.springframework.context.support.ApplicationObjectSupport.setApplicationContext(ApplicationObjectSupport.java:73) 

org.springframework.context.support.ApplicationContextAwareProcessor.postProcessBeforeInitialization(ApplicationContextAwareProcessor.java:84) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.applyBeanPostProcessorsBeforeInitialization(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:277) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.createBean(AbstractAutowireCapableBeanFactory.java:395) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:233) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.AbstractBeanFactory.getBean(AbstractBeanFactory.java:145) 

org.springframework.beans.factory.support.DefaultListableBeanFactory.preInstantiateSingletons(DefaultListableBeanFactory.java:283) 

org.springframework.context.support.AbstractApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractApplicationContext.java:313) 

org.springframework.web.context.support.AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.refresh(AbstractRefreshableWebApplicationContext.java:139) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.createWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:306) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initWebApplicationContext(FrameworkServlet.java:251) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.FrameworkServlet.initServletBean(FrameworkServlet.java:220) 

org.springframework.web.servlet.HttpServletBean.init(HttpServletBean.java:112) 


javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:211)
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:105) 

org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:148) 

org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:869) 


Re: [rules-users] Jar Files Required for Drools?

2007-02-20 Thread nicolae oana
Niyas,
 
 It is better to download the binary distribution containing the dependencies 
too. There are all the jars you may needed.
 
 Oana

Niyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,

For using Drools Rule Engine, what are the jar are files required? I
have used Drools JBoss RUle Engine IDE in Eclispe. Now I want to use
it without an IDE. So I want to know what are the required jar files:

1. drools-core.jar
2. drools-compiler.jar
3. drools-decisiontables.jar
4. drools-jsr94.jar

The above jar files are enough..any other to be included..?
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[rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

2007-02-20 Thread Olenin, Vladimir (MOH)
Hi,

 

I wonder if there is logical 'not' operator (in the meaning of != - 'not
equal') which can be applied to the whole rule? Eg:

 

Rule x

When

! (

MyObject(aaa == bbb)

MyObject2(bbb == aaa)

)

Then

// do smth

End

 

 

Basically I'm looking for an operator to reverse the evaluation result of
the expression in the brackets. The use case: in my system all rules are
defined from 'rule passes' prospective, while the application should take
some action in case the rule is NOT passed (ie, 'else' case).

 

Any way to do that except reformulating the constraints themselves?

 

Thanks,

 

Vlad

 

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Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

2007-02-20 Thread Edson Tirelli

 Vlad,

In 3.1M1 you can write:

rule X
when
not (
MyObject( aaa == bbb ) and
MyObject2( bbb == aaa )
)
then
// do something
end

But remember that variables bound inside the not block are not avaible 
in the consequence for obvious reasons.


[]s
Edson

Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:


Hi,

I wonder if there is logical ‘not’ operator (in the meaning of “!=” - 
‘not equal’) which can be applied to the whole rule? Eg:


Rule x

When

! (

MyObject(aaa == “bbb”)

MyObject2(bbb == “aaa”)

)

Then

// do smth

End

Basically I’m looking for an operator to reverse the evaluation result 
of the expression in the brackets. The use case: in my system all 
rules are defined from ‘rule passes’ prospective, while the 
application should take some action in case the rule is NOT passed 
(ie, ‘else’ case).


Any way to do that except reformulating the constraints themselves?

Thanks,

Vlad



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RE: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

2007-02-20 Thread Olenin, Vladimir (MOH)
So, if used like that, 'not' does not have 'existential' meaning then, but
simple 'negation'? I mean, the expression

   not MyObject(field == 'value')

would still mean 'not exists', correct? Would the expression

   not (MyObject(field == 'value'))

mean 

   MyObject(field != 'value')

then. In other worlds, all objects OTHER then those matching the
constraint?

Thanks.

Vlad

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To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

  Vlad,

In 3.1M1 you can write:

rule X
when
not (
MyObject( aaa == bbb ) and
MyObject2( bbb == aaa )
)
then
// do something
end

But remember that variables bound inside the not block are not avaible 
in the consequence for obvious reasons.

[]s
Edson

Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:

 Hi,

 I wonder if there is logical 'not' operator (in the meaning of != - 
 'not equal') which can be applied to the whole rule? Eg:

 Rule x

 When

 ! (

 MyObject(aaa == bbb)

 MyObject2(bbb == aaa)

 )

 Then

 // do smth

 End

 Basically I'm looking for an operator to reverse the evaluation result 
 of the expression in the brackets. The use case: in my system all 
 rules are defined from 'rule passes' prospective, while the 
 application should take some action in case the rule is NOT passed 
 (ie, 'else' case).

 Any way to do that except reformulating the constraints themselves?

 Thanks,

 Vlad



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Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

2007-02-20 Thread Edson Tirelli
   No, the not conditional element is an existential operator, so the 
meaning is what you expressed in your first example. I thought that was 
what you were looking for, but apparently it is not.
   I never heard about any construction capable of doing what you are 
asking for in a rules engine... maybe someone else can throw some light 
in...


   []s
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Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:


So, if used like that, 'not' does not have 'existential' meaning then, but
simple 'negation'? I mean, the expression

  not MyObject(field == 'value')

would still mean 'not exists', correct? Would the expression

  not (MyObject(field == 'value'))

mean 


  MyObject(field != 'value')

then. In other worlds, all objects OTHER then those matching the
constraint?

Thanks.

Vlad

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Subject: Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

 Vlad,

In 3.1M1 you can write:

rule X
when
not (
MyObject( aaa == bbb ) and
MyObject2( bbb == aaa )
)
then
// do something
end

But remember that variables bound inside the not block are not avaible 
in the consequence for obvious reasons.


[]s
Edson

Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:

 


Hi,

I wonder if there is logical 'not' operator (in the meaning of != - 
'not equal') which can be applied to the whole rule? Eg:


Rule x

When

! (

MyObject(aaa == bbb)

MyObject2(bbb == aaa)

)

Then

// do smth

End

Basically I'm looking for an operator to reverse the evaluation result 
of the expression in the brackets. The use case: in my system all 
rules are defined from 'rule passes' prospective, while the 
application should take some action in case the rule is NOT passed 
(ie, 'else' case).


Any way to do that except reformulating the constraints themselves?

Thanks,

Vlad



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Re: [rules-users] Janino vs. Eclipse

2007-02-20 Thread Dirk Bergstrom
Marcus Ilgner was heard to exclaim, On 02/20/07 12:34:
 The biggest difference would be that Janino does not support language
 level 1.5.

That was a big factor for me, but I understood that Eclipse was only usable if
you were generating static rules (in the IDE) for later deployment.  Now I'm not
so sure...

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RE: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

2007-02-20 Thread Olenin, Vladimir (MOH)
Well, probably to rephrase it, what is the status / thoughts on 'else'
construct for rules? Basically global 'logical' not for rules would be the
'else' branch of conditional statement (if DROOLS had one), correct? I've
read some postings regarding this shortly after I joined the list (ie,
around a month ago). I wonder if that discussion went anywhere


To clarify, I do need the _logical_ not, NOT exisitential. So that the
constructs with logical 'not' would select an 'inverse' fact tuples, ie,
tuples for facts that did not the condition Kind of simple logical
statement transformation in boolean algebra (DeMorgan law?...):


   MyObject( field == 'value' )  and MyObject2( field == 'value' )   ---
!( MyObject( field != 'value' )   or MyObject2( field != 'value' ) )


If '!' would mean ALL TUPLES FOR FACTS IN THE RULE XOR SELECTED TUPLES,
would the above conditions select the same set of tuples? I assume the
engine should just 'expand' any such 'logical not' operands to move it into
the coluimn constraints?..

I might be confusing smth though On the second thought for my particular
case 'existential' not should work too, so I guess the above is just a
possible extention of functionality. It really has nothing to do with the
rule engine itself (from what I see), but rather transformation of the
logical expressions before they are feeded into the rules engine.

Thanks for the answers, Edson.

Vlad




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Sent: 20 February 2007 16:30
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

No, the not conditional element is an existential operator, so the 
meaning is what you expressed in your first example. I thought that was 
what you were looking for, but apparently it is not.
I never heard about any construction capable of doing what you are 
asking for in a rules engine... maybe someone else can throw some light 
in...

[]s
Edson

Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:

So, if used like that, 'not' does not have 'existential' meaning then, but
simple 'negation'? I mean, the expression

   not MyObject(field == 'value')

would still mean 'not exists', correct? Would the expression

   not (MyObject(field == 'value'))

mean 

   MyObject(field != 'value')

then. In other worlds, all objects OTHER then those matching the
constraint?

Thanks.

Vlad

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli
Sent: 20 February 2007 14:37
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?

  Vlad,

In 3.1M1 you can write:

rule X
when
not (
MyObject( aaa == bbb ) and
MyObject2( bbb == aaa )
)
then
// do something
end

But remember that variables bound inside the not block are not avaible 
in the consequence for obvious reasons.

[]s
Edson

Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:

  

Hi,

I wonder if there is logical 'not' operator (in the meaning of != - 
'not equal') which can be applied to the whole rule? Eg:

Rule x

When

! (

MyObject(aaa == bbb)

MyObject2(bbb == aaa)

)

Then

// do smth

End

Basically I'm looking for an operator to reverse the evaluation result 
of the expression in the brackets. The use case: in my system all 
rules are defined from 'rule passes' prospective, while the 
application should take some action in case the rule is NOT passed 
(ie, 'else' case).

Any way to do that except reformulating the constraints themselves?

Thanks,

Vlad



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[rules-users] More on thread safety of working memory

2007-02-20 Thread Dirk Bergstrom
This horse has been beaten pretty hard
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.drools.user/3557/focus=3585), but I
have a newish angle on it.

My app has a big collection of business objects (1000 of type X, 10,000 of type
Y, 200 of type Z, etc) asserted into a single working memory.  These objects
need to be updated from external sources periodically.  Because each object type
has a different source, I'd like to parallelize the updates in separate threads.

Some of the updates involve retraction of expired objects or assertion of new
ones, but most are just changing fields on already-asserted objects (all fields
have PropertyChangeListener (PCL) support).

I think that using a SynchronisedWorkingMemory will handle the assert/retract
updates.  Will it be happy in the face of PCL changes as well, or do I need to
do something more?

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[rules-users] query question

2007-02-20 Thread Kevin J. Schmidt

Can a query in a rules file be used in the LHS of another rule?

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Re: [rules-users] query question

2007-02-20 Thread Mark Proctor

no
Kevin J. Schmidt wrote:

Can a query in a rules file be used in the LHS of another rule?



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Re: [rules-users] Need Help for jbossruleseclipse Configuration

2007-02-20 Thread Kris Verlaenen
org.drools.ide_1.0.0.jar ? This seems to be an old version. I would expect to 
see org.drools.ide_3.0.5 there.  But best way to install the JBoss Rules IDE 
into eclipse is by using the update site and not download the plugin manually, 
as explained in 
http://labs.jboss.com/file-access/default/members/jbossrules/freezone/docs/3.0.5/html/ch02.html#d0e953.
  That will put all the necessary files (including all JBoss Rules jars and 
their dependencies) in the right location.  Notice that you should install GEF 
before using the update site as the update site will check whether an 
appropriate version of GEF has been installed before installing JBoss Rules 
IDE.  You only need ant or svn etc. if you want to build from sources.

After doing that, you should be able to create a sample project and execute 
that.  If you still keep get errors when compiling the sample HelloWorld 
project, could you please explain which errors those are exactly?

Kris

- Original Message - 
From: Niloy Debnath 
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:17 AM
Subject: [rules-users] Need Help for jbossruleseclipse Configuration


hi,
   i'm doing a project using jbossrules  eclipse on fedora core 4 
platform.i've tried to configure jboss  eclipse.the steps i've followed is 
written below,

1.install j2sdk-1_4_2_13-linux-i586-rpm.bin and set the classpath
2.extract jbossrules-3.0.5-bin-withdeps.zip
3.extract eclipse-SDK-3.2.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
4.put the org.drools.ide_1.0.0.jar plugin into the plugin directory of eclipse
5.put the GEF plugins into the eclipse plugin directory

  now i've gone to eclipse directory and run the eclipse using ./eclipse.it 
ran but when i tried to test the sample programs it compiled and threw 
errors.i've found the sample programs in the file named 
jbossrules-examples-3.0.5-src.zip. and put it into the default workspace of 
eclipse.i've followed the Drools Documentation 3.0.5 (Mark Proctor,Michael 
Neale,Peter Lin,Michael Frandsen) during the installation process.

 please guide me what i'll do now.i've noted one thing in the documentation 
 that i  need to have these tools installed,Eclipse 3.2,Subversion Client 
1.3,Ant 1.6.i've only installed eclipse.do i need to install other two 
things?if yes then how do i install  configure that? moreover please tell me 
whether i am going right way or not.

 thanking you,
 Niloy Debnath


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