Re: [rules-users] Confirm the usage of agenda-groups
Seems OK to me. -W On 19/03/2014, djb dbrownel...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all, Sorry if it seems like this is an old question, but it's hard finding a simple unambiguous example. It's a stack, right? So I push them on 'backwards'. I've got 5 groups of rules, and I want the groups to fire in the order I've described the groups as, below. I also don't want them to start firing as soon as a fact is inserted, which is what seems to happen, according to my activation listener. So, would I do this: -- getAgendaGroup( last group to fire ).setFocus(); getAgendaGroup( second last group to fire ).setFocus(); getAgendaGroup( middle group to fire ).setFocus(); getAgendaGroup( second group to fire ).setFocus(); getAgendaGroup( first group to fire ).setFocus(); insert(facts) fireAllRules() -- ? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Confirm-the-usage-of-agenda-groups-tp4028813.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] KnowledgeAgentImpl memory leak (5.5.0.Final)
is it this problem a known bug? We have noticed this problem in our production system. We can not change Drools version easily. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/KnowledgeAgentImpl-memory-leak-5-5-0-Final-tp4028798p4028819.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] KnowledgeAgentImpl memory leak (5.5.0.Final)
We use a Linux system and we set the maximum memory size for the tomcat java process, so we can not increase it. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/KnowledgeAgentImpl-memory-leak-5-5-0-Final-tp4028798p4028820.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] ResourceChangeScannerImpl - Thread stop problem (v5.5.0 final)
Any idea about this? -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/ResourceChangeScannerImpl-Thread-stop-problem-v5-5-0-final-tp4027160p4028821.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] ResourceChangeScannerImpl - Thread stop problem (v5.5.0 final)
Try this. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7729399/how-to-quiet-drools-resource-scanner-logging On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:32 PM, alineasol engineer...@alineasol.comwrote: Any idea about this? -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/ResourceChangeScannerImpl-Thread-stop-problem-v5-5-0-final-tp4027160p4028821.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Rules updating error
In my java ee application, I use drools 6.1.0.Beta1, deployed on jboss eap 6.2 (I have also deployed Kie Workbench 6.0.1.Final). In order to get the latest updates on my rules (made on kie wb) I tried to set kiescanner to LATEST. This seems to not be working always (I'm not 100% sure about the reason, it seems to happen when I have not re-deployed the jar with the model classes I use in my rules, or I have not clicked on builddeploy of the rules project), so I have reverted to using 1.0 as the version and not changing the version when I update the rules project. There is an issue with the application not validating, because I have a guided decision table which uses a global variable and a function, but that seems to not be an error after all (everything seems to build as it should). However, while my application is running (and watching for updates through scanner), if I make an update and deploy the rules project again, the application retrieves the update and fails with a validation error about not being able to analyse the expressions regarding the global function and the global variable. Any suggestions? Thank you very much. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Programmatically load rules classloader NullPointerException
Would someone please help with this? Did I do something wrong or is this a bug? I am using 6.0.1. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Programmatically-load-rules-classloader-NullPointerException-tp4028783p4028827.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Multithreaded update of facts in Drools 5.5 - how to ensure that a nested value isn't null
Hello, My question is: How can I ensure that a nested property isn't null (in a multithreaded environment)? This is the rule: rule Drools Test3: Concurrency dialect java when $testObj : TestObject( $ref : subObject, $ref != null, $ref.message != null ) then System.out.println(Received-04-A: + $testObj); end I am getting the following exception if I try to modify the fact in different threads. java.lang.NullPointerException: null at ConditionEvaluator8d1e3555e8c34810957bbb1670f51176.evaluate(null:-1) at org.drools.rule.constraint.MvelConstraint.evaluate(MvelConstraint.java:200) at org.drools.rule.constraint.MvelConstraint.isAllowed(MvelConstraint.java:157) at org.drools.reteoo.AlphaNode.modifyObject(AlphaNode.java:154) at org.drools.reteoo.SingleObjectSinkAdapter.propagateModifyObject(SingleObjectSinkAdapter.java:68) at org.drools.reteoo.AlphaNode.modifyObject(AlphaNode.java:157) at org.drools.reteoo.SingleObjectSinkAdapter.propagateModifyObject(SingleObjectSinkAdapter.java:68) at org.drools.reteoo.ObjectTypeNode.modifyObject(ObjectTypeNode.java:314) at org.drools.reteoo.EntryPointNode.modifyObject(EntryPointNode.java:265) at org.drools.common.NamedEntryPoint.update(NamedEntryPoint.java:483) at org.drools.common.AbstractWorkingMemory.update(AbstractWorkingMemory.java:976) at org.drools.common.AbstractWorkingMemory.update(AbstractWorkingMemory.java:949) at org.drools.impl.StatefulKnowledgeSessionImpl.update(StatefulKnowledgeSessionImpl.java:284) [...] There are two threads running which modify the same reference in a testobject (subObject). They trigger a queued update of the fact. One solution would be: - insert the nested object in drools - and modify the rule: rule Drools Test3: Concurrency 2 dialect java when $subObj : TestObject( message != null ) $testObj : TestObject( subObject == $subObj ) then System.out.println(Received-04-A: + $testObj); end Can I achieve a thread safety differently? Thanks and regards, Per Sterner ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Sliding window full length question
Hi, I found the following statements in Drools document: Sliding windows start to match immediately and defining a sliding window does not imply that the rule has to wait for the sliding window to be full in order to match. For instance, a rule that calculates the average of an event property on a window:length(10) will start calculating the average immediately, and it will start at 0 (zero) for no-events, and will update the average as events arrive one by one. Would someone please let me know how I can wait for the sliding windows to be full to match? Our requirement is always use the average reading over at least 60 seconds. Thanks! Grant -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Sliding-window-full-length-question-tp4028829.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] part time intern @ Red Hat
I have a small budget for a part time intern for one year, 12K USD. The work can be 100% remote, from almost any country. This will mostly be UI work, improving our workbench. If this interests you, email me off list. Mark ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Programmatically load rules classloader NullPointerException
Can you try 6.1.0-SNAPSHOT? I tried your code quickly and it seems to work Davide On 03/20/2014 03:25 PM, GrantWang wrote: Would someone please help with this? Did I do something wrong or is this a bug? I am using 6.0.1. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Programmatically-load-rules-classloader-NullPointerException-tp4028783p4028827.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] 6.0.1.F How to set Maven repo used by KieScanner?
I don't know what is different today, but LATEST is working. I think I had
too many changes going on at once, back to a good state.
(FYI, We've been cherry picking fixes from the master branch)
So, I'm getting close.
Now, I even see the message
The following artifacts have been updated: {..blah blah..}
But, what I am not seeing now is the changes in the then sections I made
in the rules (just printlns at this point). I have to restart jboss to see
the changes.
The scanner is running and according to the example shown at
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22205945/drools-6-add-rules-to-a-running-kiesession/22208775?noredirect=1#22208775
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22205945/drools-6-add-rules-to-a-running-kiesession/22208775?noredirect=1#22208775
it seems like the sessions should automatically update. Is that true? Or,
do I have to create a new session after the contain is updated with the new
rules?
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Re: [rules-users] 6.0.1.F How to set Maven repo used by KieScanner?
You have to create a new session. Only new sessions will have the updated
kmodule information.
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I don't know what is different today, but LATEST is working. I think I had
too many changes going on at once, back to a good state.
(FYI, We've been cherry picking fixes from the master branch)
So, I'm getting close.
Now, I even see the message
The following artifacts have been updated: {..blah blah..}
But, what I am not seeing now is the changes in the then sections I made in
the rules (just printlns at this point). I have to restart jboss to see the
changes.
The scanner is running and according to the example shown at
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22205945/drools-6-add-rules-to-a-running-kiesession/22208775?noredirect=1#22208775
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22205945/drools-6-add-rules-to-a-running-kiesession/22208775?noredirect=1#22208775
it seems like the sessions should automatically update. Is that true? Or, do
I have to create a new session after the contain is updated with the new rules?
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Re: [rules-users] 6.0.1.F How to set Maven repo used by KieScanner?
Is there a callback or something from the scanner that I can register for that will let me know that there are deltas and I should create a new session? -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/6-0-1-F-How-to-set-Maven-repo-used-by-KieScanner-tp4028804p4028835.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Updating project repositories
I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? My repository config inside the WB: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories Repo config inside the deployed pom: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories Joe White CIO Technology Enabled Services 303-974-2849 (Office) 720-232-9023 (Cell) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
[rules-users] Needs advice to help Drools on a big problem (and avoid GC overhead)
Hi, In our project, we use Drools to compute forbidden allocations as input for an allocation problem (for which we do not use Drools BTW). The constraint of the problem (forbidden operation for given resources) are expressed as drools rules. We have about -200 resources -700 operations Those are the Drools facts. We have about 200 Drools rules describing the forbidden allocations The problem here is that many rules produce duplicates forbids. For instance : Rule 1 may forbid Op1 on Res1 Res3 Rule 2 may forbid Op1 on Res2 res3 Currently the RHS of rules just insert forbids into a pure Java Set (no fact insertion). The Set takes care of avoiding duplicates, but still, we feel we could help Drools by giving him a hint that all rules are actually producing pairs of Resource, Allocation and that he should not try to produce them more than once. Currently the structure of each rule looks like that : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end With the size of the problem, we often end up with outOfMem/ GC limit. When analyzing memory dump, we see about 300.000 drools left tuple object. I am not sure if we could help drools to reduce the Rete tree here. I mean, the allocation matrix is already : 200*700 = 140.000 cells. Drools only uses 2 nodes for each possible forbids, which seems already well optimized. We had several idea to improve that though, but we are not enough expert in the internal of the RETE algorithm to decide if that's a good way to go : 1) Insert forbids as facts in the RHS and check they are not already there in the LHS : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) not Forbid(res=$resource, op=$operation) then insert(Forbid($resource, $operation)) end 2) Merge all rules in one big rule with a single RHS Is it possible to have something like : when // Rule 1 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) or // Rule 2 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) // Etc ... then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end 3) Define a common RHS somewhere and tell Drools all rules use this one. Is there a possibility in Drools to define reusable RHS ? Would it help ? 4) Any other idea ? Thanks in advance for your help. Brgds, Raphael Jolivet -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Needs-advice-to-help-Drools-on-a-big-problem-and-avoid-GC-overhead-tp4028838.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules updating error
From what I can gather from your email there are two problems. Please confirm and then we can comment further: (1) Validation of a guided decision table, that uses a global, reports a validation error. (2) Changes to the decision table's use of a global is not being detected bt KieScanner. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 11:28, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com wrote: In my java ee application, I use drools 6.1.0.Beta1, deployed on jboss eap 6.2 (I have also deployed Kie Workbench 6.0.1.Final). In order to get the latest updates on my rules (made on kie wb) I tried to set kiescanner to LATEST. This seems to not be working always (I'm not 100% sure about the reason, it seems to happen when I have not re-deployed the jar with the model classes I use in my rules, or I have not clicked on builddeploy of the rules project), so I have reverted to using 1.0 as the version and not changing the version when I update the rules project. There is an issue with the application not validating, because I have a guided decision table which uses a global variable and a function, but that seems to not be an error after all (everything seems to build as it should). However, while my application is running (and watching for updates through scanner), if I make an update and deploy the rules project again, the application retrieves the update and fails with a validation error about not being able to analyse the expressions regarding the global function and the global variable. Any suggestions? Thank you very much. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories
I've asked a colleague to comment. We do manipulate the pom for the UI but should retain original content that is not modified by the Project Editor. @Toni... What's your opinion? Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 18:03, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: Also, that is the same configuration that is in my settings.xml for my installed maven instance and the profile is active. *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe White *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* [rules-users] Updating project repositories I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? *My repository config inside the WB:* repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots url http://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories *Repo config inside the deployed pom:* repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories Joe White CIO Technology Enabled Services 303-974-2849 (Office) 720-232-9023 (Cell) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Efficiency questions about DSL
So many questions I can comment on the workbench related aspects. The workbench only includes DSL files for authoring DSLR (or RDSLR) files that are in the same folder as the rule. I use the term folder as we don't support same package (which would imply if the same package existed in different JARs we'd include all DSL files - we do not). The expander keyword is, AFAIK, deprecated. DSL/DSLR expansion depends upon the files being in the same folder. @Mario, @Mark, @Edson. Can you comment on whether KIE does handle DSL expansion across different JARs? Sent on the move On 18 Mar 2014 09:20, mfalaize maxime.fala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering how to use efficiently DSL with my rules and I have several questions about it : - First, I have the impression that we can use DSL files only in the same package of the DSLR file. When I tried to load DSL files by the kmodule.xml (specifying the different packages in the packages attribute of kbase) it does not work. Do I have to load each DSL files programmatically or is there a way to load it automatically by the kmodule.xml (and if it is the case, how can we handle the parsing order of these files ?) ? - An underlying question is is this a good practice to divide DSL files ? I would like to translate all my rules in french and to put the generic translations in a unique DSL file to reuse it in all of my different DSLR files. - I noted that we can use more than one DSL file for one DSLR file (it works at the runtime) but when it is the case the DRL viewer of the DSL rule editor does not work and I don't have autocompletion. I tried to put several expander instructions but it fails. Is there a way to make it work ? I think DSL stuff is underestimate at this moment by the community and for my last question I would like to know what is the future plans about this feature ? Maybe I could help to develop it. Regards -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Efficiency-questions-about-DSL-tp4028774.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules updating error
Well, only the second actually, since my understanding (from a previous question I sent) is that the first is a known thing (issue?). KieScanner loads the rules project without any issues the first time (upon application startup) but shows a validation error if the rules project is updated (minor update, definitely not causing a validation error), reporting that it cannot Analyze the expressions involving the global variable and the function. Ευχαριστώ πολύ, Ιωάννης Χριστοδούλου On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can gather from your email there are two problems. Please confirm and then we can comment further: (1) Validation of a guided decision table, that uses a global, reports a validation error. (2) Changes to the decision table's use of a global is not being detected bt KieScanner. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 11:28, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com wrote: In my java ee application, I use drools 6.1.0.Beta1, deployed on jboss eap 6.2 (I have also deployed Kie Workbench 6.0.1.Final). In order to get the latest updates on my rules (made on kie wb) I tried to set kiescanner to LATEST. This seems to not be working always (I'm not 100% sure about the reason, it seems to happen when I have not re-deployed the jar with the model classes I use in my rules, or I have not clicked on builddeploy of the rules project), so I have reverted to using 1.0 as the version and not changing the version when I update the rules project. There is an issue with the application not validating, because I have a guided decision table which uses a global variable and a function, but that seems to not be an error after all (everything seems to build as it should). However, while my application is running (and watching for updates through scanner), if I make an update and deploy the rules project again, the application retrieves the update and fails with a validation error about not being able to analyse the expressions regarding the global function and the global variable. Any suggestions? Thank you very much. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules updating error
Ok. You are correct (1) is a known issue that I am working on at the moment. Can you give illustrative DRL for the original rule and updated rule that causes problems for (2). It would help understand what could be the cause (or submit a pull request containing a unit test). Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 19:20, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com wrote: Well, only the second actually, since my understanding (from a previous question I sent) is that the first is a known thing (issue?). KieScanner loads the rules project without any issues the first time (upon application startup) but shows a validation error if the rules project is updated (minor update, definitely not causing a validation error), reporting that it cannot Analyze the expressions involving the global variable and the function. Ευχαριστώ πολύ, Ιωάννης Χριστοδούλου On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can gather from your email there are two problems. Please confirm and then we can comment further: (1) Validation of a guided decision table, that uses a global, reports a validation error. (2) Changes to the decision table's use of a global is not being detected bt KieScanner. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 11:28, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com wrote: In my java ee application, I use drools 6.1.0.Beta1, deployed on jboss eap 6.2 (I have also deployed Kie Workbench 6.0.1.Final). In order to get the latest updates on my rules (made on kie wb) I tried to set kiescanner to LATEST. This seems to not be working always (I'm not 100% sure about the reason, it seems to happen when I have not re-deployed the jar with the model classes I use in my rules, or I have not clicked on builddeploy of the rules project), so I have reverted to using 1.0 as the version and not changing the version when I update the rules project. There is an issue with the application not validating, because I have a guided decision table which uses a global variable and a function, but that seems to not be an error after all (everything seems to build as it should). However, while my application is running (and watching for updates through scanner), if I make an update and deploy the rules project again, the application retrieves the update and fails with a validation error about not being able to analyse the expressions regarding the global function and the global variable. Any suggestions? Thank you very much. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Needs advice to help Drools on a big problem (and avoid GC overhead)
Did you try using the engine in equality mode? It will only ever allow one “equal” object to be inserted, others are just ignored. Mark On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:54, Raphael raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In our project, we use Drools to compute forbidden allocations as input for an allocation problem (for which we do not use Drools BTW). The constraint of the problem (forbidden operation for given resources) are expressed as drools rules. We have about -200 resources -700 operations Those are the Drools facts. We have about 200 Drools rules describing the forbidden allocations The problem here is that many rules produce duplicates forbids. For instance : Rule 1 may forbid Op1 on Res1 Res3 Rule 2 may forbid Op1 on Res2 res3 Currently the RHS of rules just insert forbids into a pure Java Set (no fact insertion). The Set takes care of avoiding duplicates, but still, we feel we could help Drools by giving him a hint that all rules are actually producing pairs of Resource, Allocation and that he should not try to produce them more than once. Currently the structure of each rule looks like that : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end With the size of the problem, we often end up with outOfMem/ GC limit. When analyzing memory dump, we see about 300.000 drools left tuple object. I am not sure if we could help drools to reduce the Rete tree here. I mean, the allocation matrix is already : 200*700 = 140.000 cells. Drools only uses 2 nodes for each possible forbids, which seems already well optimized. We had several idea to improve that though, but we are not enough expert in the internal of the RETE algorithm to decide if that's a good way to go : 1) Insert forbids as facts in the RHS and check they are not already there in the LHS : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) not Forbid(res=$resource, op=$operation) then insert(Forbid($resource, $operation)) end 2) Merge all rules in one big rule with a single RHS Is it possible to have something like : when // Rule 1 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) or // Rule 2 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) // Etc ... then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end 3) Define a common RHS somewhere and tell Drools all rules use this one. Is there a possibility in Drools to define reusable RHS ? Would it help ? 4) Any other idea ? Thanks in advance for your help. Brgds, Raphael Jolivet -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Needs-advice-to-help-Drools-on-a-big-problem-and-avoid-GC-overhead-tp4028838.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Needs advice to help Drools on a big problem (and avoid GC overhead)
Thanks for you quick answer. Not yet, For that I will need to switch to fact insertion instead of Java Set. Do you think to will make a difference in the way the RETE Tree will be built ? 2014-03-20 20:27 GMT+01:00 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Did you try using the engine in equality mode? It will only ever allow one equal object to be inserted, others are just ignored. Mark On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:54, Raphael raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In our project, we use Drools to compute forbidden allocations as input for an allocation problem (for which we do not use Drools BTW). The constraint of the problem (forbidden operation for given resources) are expressed as drools rules. We have about -200 resources -700 operations Those are the Drools facts. We have about 200 Drools rules describing the forbidden allocations The problem here is that many rules produce duplicates forbids. For instance : Rule 1 may forbid Op1 on Res1 Res3 Rule 2 may forbid Op1 on Res2 res3 Currently the RHS of rules just insert forbids into a pure Java Set (no fact insertion). The Set takes care of avoiding duplicates, but still, we feel we could help Drools by giving him a hint that all rules are actually producing pairs of Resource, Allocation and that he should not try to produce them more than once. Currently the structure of each rule looks like that : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end With the size of the problem, we often end up with outOfMem/ GC limit. When analyzing memory dump, we see about 300.000 drools left tuple object. I am not sure if we could help drools to reduce the Rete tree here. I mean, the allocation matrix is already : 200*700 = 140.000 cells. Drools only uses 2 nodes for each possible forbids, which seems already well optimized. We had several idea to improve that though, but we are not enough expert in the internal of the RETE algorithm to decide if that's a good way to go : 1) Insert forbids as facts in the RHS and check they are not already there in the LHS : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) not Forbid(res=$resource, op=$operation) then insert(Forbid($resource, $operation)) end 2) Merge all rules in one big rule with a single RHS Is it possible to have something like : when // Rule 1 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) or // Rule 2 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) // Etc ... then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end 3) Define a common RHS somewhere and tell Drools all rules use this one. Is there a possibility in Drools to define reusable RHS ? Would it help ? 4) Any other idea ? Thanks in advance for your help. Brgds, Raphael Jolivet -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Needs-advice-to-help-Drools-on-a-big-problem-and-avoid-GC-overhead-tp4028838.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Sliding window full length question
I'd start a one-shot timer on the arrival of the first Event, to fire after 60 seconds and insert an auxiliary fact OneMinute and make those rules depend on the presence of this fact. (Hint: Use extends) -W On 20/03/2014, GrantWang grant.w...@intrado.com wrote: Hi, I found the following statements in Drools document: Sliding windows start to match immediately and defining a sliding window does not imply that the rule has to wait for the sliding window to be full in order to match. For instance, a rule that calculates the average of an event property on a window:length(10) will start calculating the average immediately, and it will start at 0 (zero) for no-events, and will update the average as events arrive one by one. Would someone please let me know how I can wait for the sliding windows to be full to match? Our requirement is always use the average reading over at least 60 seconds. Thanks! Grant -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Sliding-window-full-length-question-tp4028829.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Needs advice to help Drools on a big problem (and avoid GC overhead)
I may fail to understand the fundamentals of this problem, but it seems to me that it doesn't have the dynamic requirements that would warrant a full blow up of all Resources and Operations at the same time. We have the 300 rules, and I'm assuming that the pattern is the one shown in OP's mail: a Resource subset times an Operation subset. So, if you insert just one Resource (or Operation) fact together with all Operation (or Resource) facts and fire all rules, you'll get all Forbids for the one Resource with all Operations (or vice versa). Then, you retract the singleton and insert the next one, fire all rules, and so on. -W On 20/03/2014, Raphael Jolivet raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you quick answer. Not yet, For that I will need to switch to fact insertion instead of Java Set. Do you think to will make a difference in the way the RETE Tree will be built ? 2014-03-20 20:27 GMT+01:00 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Did you try using the engine in equality mode? It will only ever allow one equal object to be inserted, others are just ignored. Mark On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:54, Raphael raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In our project, we use Drools to compute forbidden allocations as input for an allocation problem (for which we do not use Drools BTW). The constraint of the problem (forbidden operation for given resources) are expressed as drools rules. We have about -200 resources -700 operations Those are the Drools facts. We have about 200 Drools rules describing the forbidden allocations The problem here is that many rules produce duplicates forbids. For instance : Rule 1 may forbid Op1 on Res1 Res3 Rule 2 may forbid Op1 on Res2 res3 Currently the RHS of rules just insert forbids into a pure Java Set (no fact insertion). The Set takes care of avoiding duplicates, but still, we feel we could help Drools by giving him a hint that all rules are actually producing pairs of Resource, Allocation and that he should not try to produce them more than once. Currently the structure of each rule looks like that : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end With the size of the problem, we often end up with outOfMem/ GC limit. When analyzing memory dump, we see about 300.000 drools left tuple object. I am not sure if we could help drools to reduce the Rete tree here. I mean, the allocation matrix is already : 200*700 = 140.000 cells. Drools only uses 2 nodes for each possible forbids, which seems already well optimized. We had several idea to improve that though, but we are not enough expert in the internal of the RETE algorithm to decide if that's a good way to go : 1) Insert forbids as facts in the RHS and check they are not already there in the LHS : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) not Forbid(res=$resource, op=$operation) then insert(Forbid($resource, $operation)) end 2) Merge all rules in one big rule with a single RHS Is it possible to have something like : when // Rule 1 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) or // Rule 2 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) // Etc ... then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end 3) Define a common RHS somewhere and tell Drools all rules use this one. Is there a possibility in Drools to define reusable RHS ? Would it help ? 4) Any other idea ? Thanks in advance for your help. Brgds, Raphael Jolivet -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Needs-advice-to-help-Drools-on-a-big-problem-and-avoid-GC-overhead-tp4028838.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Needs advice to help Drools on a big problem (and avoid GC overhead)
On 20 Mar 2014, at 19:34, Raphael Jolivet raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you quick answer. Not yet, For that I will need to switch to fact insertion instead of Java Set. Do you think to will make a difference in the way the RETE Tree will be built ? No it’s just a “set” pre filter for insertions. The only way to change how the network is built, is to change the rules themselves. You can improve node sharing, if the patterns are in the same order and have the same constraints. You might find some improvements by moving to 6.0, where we have a new “lazy” algorithm. Which will only produce the LeftTuples on demand, for when a rule fires. http://blog.athico.com/2013/11/rip-rete-time-to-get-phreaky.html Mark 2014-03-20 20:27 GMT+01:00 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Did you try using the engine in equality mode? It will only ever allow one “equal” object to be inserted, others are just ignored. Mark On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:54, Raphael raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In our project, we use Drools to compute forbidden allocations as input for an allocation problem (for which we do not use Drools BTW). The constraint of the problem (forbidden operation for given resources) are expressed as drools rules. We have about -200 resources -700 operations Those are the Drools facts. We have about 200 Drools rules describing the forbidden allocations The problem here is that many rules produce duplicates forbids. For instance : Rule 1 may forbid Op1 on Res1 Res3 Rule 2 may forbid Op1 on Res2 res3 Currently the RHS of rules just insert forbids into a pure Java Set (no fact insertion). The Set takes care of avoiding duplicates, but still, we feel we could help Drools by giving him a hint that all rules are actually producing pairs of Resource, Allocation and that he should not try to produce them more than once. Currently the structure of each rule looks like that : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end With the size of the problem, we often end up with outOfMem/ GC limit. When analyzing memory dump, we see about 300.000 drools left tuple object. I am not sure if we could help drools to reduce the Rete tree here. I mean, the allocation matrix is already : 200*700 = 140.000 cells. Drools only uses 2 nodes for each possible forbids, which seems already well optimized. We had several idea to improve that though, but we are not enough expert in the internal of the RETE algorithm to decide if that's a good way to go : 1) Insert forbids as facts in the RHS and check they are not already there in the LHS : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) not Forbid(res=$resource, op=$operation) then insert(Forbid($resource, $operation)) end 2) Merge all rules in one big rule with a single RHS Is it possible to have something like : when // Rule 1 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) or // Rule 2 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) // Etc ... then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end 3) Define a common RHS somewhere and tell Drools all rules use this one. Is there a possibility in Drools to define reusable RHS ? Would it help ? 4) Any other idea ? Thanks in advance for your help. Brgds, Raphael Jolivet -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Needs-advice-to-help-Drools-on-a-big-problem-and-avoid-GC-overhead-tp4028838.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories
So if I change the configuration in the WB UI should I expect the jar to end up in my remote repo? It is only ending up in my local repository. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:10 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've asked a colleague to comment. We do manipulate the pom for the UI but should retain original content that is not modified by the Project Editor. @Toni... What's your opinion? Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 18:03, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: Also, that is the same configuration that is in my settings.xml for my installed maven instance and the profile is active. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Joe White Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? My repository config inside the WB: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo%3c/url /repository /repositories Repo config inside the deployed pom: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo%3c/url /repository /repositories Joe White CIO Technology Enabled Services 303-974-2849tel:303-974-2849 (Office) 720-232-9023tel:720-232-9023 (Cell) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories
That depends how you're configuring your project's distribution management. Adding (I assume) your remote to the repositories section is only telling maven a remote to query to *download* artifacts. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 20:41, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: So if I change the configuration in the WB UI should I expect the jar to end up in my remote repo? It is only ending up in my local repository. *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Anstis *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:10 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've asked a colleague to comment. We do manipulate the pom for the UI but should retain original content that is not modified by the Project Editor. @Toni... What's your opinion? Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 18:03, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: Also, that is the same configuration that is in my settings.xml for my installed maven instance and the profile is active. *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe White *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* [rules-users] Updating project repositories I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? *My repository config inside the WB:* repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots url http://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories *Repo config inside the deployed pom:* repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories Joe White CIO Technology Enabled Services 303-974-2849 (Office) 720-232-9023 (Cell) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Needs advice to help Drools on a big problem (and avoid GC overhead)
Hmm, sure it makes sense. The operations and resources are independent. I think I can safely split the problem into smaller ones. I will try this approach. Thanks for the tip Le 20 mars 2014 20:51, Wolfgang Laun wolfgang.l...@gmail.com a écrit : I may fail to understand the fundamentals of this problem, but it seems to me that it doesn't have the dynamic requirements that would warrant a full blow up of all Resources and Operations at the same time. We have the 300 rules, and I'm assuming that the pattern is the one shown in OP's mail: a Resource subset times an Operation subset. So, if you insert just one Resource (or Operation) fact together with all Operation (or Resource) facts and fire all rules, you'll get all Forbids for the one Resource with all Operations (or vice versa). Then, you retract the singleton and insert the next one, fire all rules, and so on. -W On 20/03/2014, Raphael Jolivet raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for you quick answer. Not yet, For that I will need to switch to fact insertion instead of Java Set. Do you think to will make a difference in the way the RETE Tree will be built ? 2014-03-20 20:27 GMT+01:00 Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org: Did you try using the engine in equality mode? It will only ever allow one equal object to be inserted, others are just ignored. Mark On 20 Mar 2014, at 18:54, Raphael raphael.joli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In our project, we use Drools to compute forbidden allocations as input for an allocation problem (for which we do not use Drools BTW). The constraint of the problem (forbidden operation for given resources) are expressed as drools rules. We have about -200 resources -700 operations Those are the Drools facts. We have about 200 Drools rules describing the forbidden allocations The problem here is that many rules produce duplicates forbids. For instance : Rule 1 may forbid Op1 on Res1 Res3 Rule 2 may forbid Op1 on Res2 res3 Currently the RHS of rules just insert forbids into a pure Java Set (no fact insertion). The Set takes care of avoiding duplicates, but still, we feel we could help Drools by giving him a hint that all rules are actually producing pairs of Resource, Allocation and that he should not try to produce them more than once. Currently the structure of each rule looks like that : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end With the size of the problem, we often end up with outOfMem/ GC limit. When analyzing memory dump, we see about 300.000 drools left tuple object. I am not sure if we could help drools to reduce the Rete tree here. I mean, the allocation matrix is already : 200*700 = 140.000 cells. Drools only uses 2 nodes for each possible forbids, which seems already well optimized. We had several idea to improve that though, but we are not enough expert in the internal of the RETE algorithm to decide if that's a good way to go : 1) Insert forbids as facts in the RHS and check they are not already there in the LHS : when $resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions) not Forbid(res=$resource, op=$operation) then insert(Forbid($resource, $operation)) end 2) Merge all rules in one big rule with a single RHS Is it possible to have something like : when // Rule 1 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) or // Rule 2 ($resource : Resource(someconditions) $operation : Operation(someconditions)) // Etc ... then globalSet.add(Pairresrouce, operation) end 3) Define a common RHS somewhere and tell Drools all rules use this one. Is there a possibility in Drools to define reusable RHS ? Would it help ? 4) Any other idea ? Thanks in advance for your help. Brgds, Raphael Jolivet -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Needs-advice-to-help-Drools-on-a-big-problem-and-avoid-GC-overhead-tp4028838.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list
Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories
I've got distribution management that matches my settings xml added to the pom but it doesn't seem to connect (or to attempt to connect) distributionManagement repository idrecondo-repo/id urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-release/url /repository snapshotRepository idrecondo-repo/id urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-snapshot/url /snapshotRepository /distributionManagement From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:56 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories That depends how you're configuring your project's distribution management. Adding (I assume) your remote to the repositories section is only telling maven a remote to query to *download* artifacts. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 20:41, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: So if I change the configuration in the WB UI should I expect the jar to end up in my remote repo? It is only ending up in my local repository. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:10 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've asked a colleague to comment. We do manipulate the pom for the UI but should retain original content that is not modified by the Project Editor. @Toni... What's your opinion? Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 18:03, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: Also, that is the same configuration that is in my settings.xml for my installed maven instance and the profile is active. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Joe White Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? My repository config inside the WB: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo%3c/url /repository /repositories Repo config inside the deployed pom: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo%3c/url /repository /repositories Joe White CIO Technology Enabled Services 303-974-2849tel:303-974-2849 (Office) 720-232-9023tel:720-232-9023 (Cell) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Rules updating error
I can't really make a unit test, but I can provide example drl:
Assuming that the rule project contains a guided decision table and a drl
file:
Guided Decision Table producing drl:
rule guided rule
when
then
myFunctionCall(myGlobalList);
end
The drl file:
import java.util.List;
global java.util.List myGlobalList;
function void myFunctionCall(List aList) {
System.out.println(List contains:+list);
}
the rules are initiated by calling:
KieSession ksession =
List globalList = new ArrayList();
ksession.setGlobal(myGlobalList, globalList);
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.comwrote:
Ok.
You are correct (1) is a known issue that I am working on at the moment.
Can you give illustrative DRL for the original rule and updated rule that
causes problems for (2). It would help understand what could be the cause
(or submit a pull request containing a unit test).
Sent on the move
On 20 Mar 2014 19:20, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com
wrote:
Well, only the second actually, since my understanding (from a previous
question I sent) is that the first is a known thing (issue?).
KieScanner loads the rules project without any issues the first time
(upon application startup) but shows a validation error if the rules
project is updated (minor update, definitely not causing a validation
error),
reporting that it cannot Analyze the expressions involving the global
variable and the function.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ,
Ιωάννης Χριστοδούλου
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com
wrote:
From what I can gather from your email there are two problems. Please
confirm and then we can comment further:
(1) Validation of a guided decision table, that uses a global, reports a
validation error.
(2) Changes to the decision table's use of a global is not being
detected bt KieScanner.
Sent on the move
On 20 Mar 2014 11:28, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com
wrote:
In my java ee application, I use drools 6.1.0.Beta1, deployed on jboss
eap 6.2 (I have also deployed Kie Workbench 6.0.1.Final).
In order to get the latest updates on my rules (made on kie wb) I tried
to set kiescanner to LATEST. This seems to not be working always (I'm not
100% sure about the reason, it seems to happen when I have not re-deployed
the jar with the model classes I use in my rules, or I have not clicked on
builddeploy of the rules project), so I have reverted to using 1.0 as
the version and not changing the version when I update the rules project.
There is an issue with the application not validating, because I have a
guided decision table which uses a global variable and a function, but that
seems to not be an error after all (everything seems to build as it
should).
However, while my application is running (and watching for updates
through scanner), if I make an update and deploy the rules project again,
the application retrieves the update and fails with a validation error
about not being able to analyse the expressions regarding the global
function and the global variable.
Any suggestions?
Thank you very much.
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Re: [rules-users] Rules updating error
Are those the initial definitions?
What changes to cause KieScanner to report errors?
Sent on the move
On 20 Mar 2014 21:34, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com wrote:
I can't really make a unit test, but I can provide example drl:
Assuming that the rule project contains a guided decision table and a drl
file:
Guided Decision Table producing drl:
rule guided rule
when
then
myFunctionCall(myGlobalList);
end
The drl file:
import java.util.List;
global java.util.List myGlobalList;
function void myFunctionCall(List aList) {
System.out.println(List contains:+list);
}
the rules are initiated by calling:
KieSession ksession =
List globalList = new ArrayList();
ksession.setGlobal(myGlobalList, globalList);
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Michael Anstis
michael.ans...@gmail.comwrote:
Ok.
You are correct (1) is a known issue that I am working on at the moment.
Can you give illustrative DRL for the original rule and updated rule that
causes problems for (2). It would help understand what could be the cause
(or submit a pull request containing a unit test).
Sent on the move
On 20 Mar 2014 19:20, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com
wrote:
Well, only the second actually, since my understanding (from a previous
question I sent) is that the first is a known thing (issue?).
KieScanner loads the rules project without any issues the first time
(upon application startup) but shows a validation error if the rules
project is updated (minor update, definitely not causing a validation
error),
reporting that it cannot Analyze the expressions involving the global
variable and the function.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ,
Ιωάννης Χριστοδούλου
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Michael Anstis
michael.ans...@gmail.com wrote:
From what I can gather from your email there are two problems. Please
confirm and then we can comment further:
(1) Validation of a guided decision table, that uses a global, reports
a validation error.
(2) Changes to the decision table's use of a global is not being
detected bt KieScanner.
Sent on the move
On 20 Mar 2014 11:28, Ioannis Christodoulou io.chris...@gmail.com
wrote:
In my java ee application, I use drools 6.1.0.Beta1, deployed on jboss
eap 6.2 (I have also deployed Kie Workbench 6.0.1.Final).
In order to get the latest updates on my rules (made on kie wb) I
tried to set kiescanner to LATEST. This seems to not be working always
(I'm not 100% sure about the reason, it seems to happen when I have not
re-deployed the jar with the model classes I use in my rules, or I have
not
clicked on builddeploy of the rules project), so I have reverted to using
1.0 as the version and not changing the version when I update the rules
project.
There is an issue with the application not validating, because I have
a guided decision table which uses a global variable and a function, but
that seems to not be an error after all (everything seems to build as it
should).
However, while my application is running (and watching for updates
through scanner), if I make an update and deploy the rules project again,
the application retrieves the update and fails with a validation error
about not being able to analyse the expressions regarding the global
function and the global variable.
Any suggestions?
Thank you very much.
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Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories
In fact, if I manually go into the guvnor repository, copy the pom.xml directly from the workbench, and command line run mvn deploy the jar gets pushed out to my remote repository. So I know for sure the pom is configured correctly in the workbench Is the workbench actually calling deploy or just install ? Where in the code would be a good starting point to dig a little deeper on this? From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Joe White Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:15 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've got distribution management that matches my settings xml added to the pom but it doesn't seem to connect (or to attempt to connect) distributionManagement repository idrecondo-repo/id urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-release/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-release%3c/url /repository snapshotRepository idrecondo-repo/id urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-snapshot/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-snapshot%3c/url /snapshotRepository /distributionManagement From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:56 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories That depends how you're configuring your project's distribution management. Adding (I assume) your remote to the repositories section is only telling maven a remote to query to *download* artifacts. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 20:41, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: So if I change the configuration in the WB UI should I expect the jar to end up in my remote repo? It is only ending up in my local repository. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:10 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've asked a colleague to comment. We do manipulate the pom for the UI but should retain original content that is not modified by the Project Editor. @Toni... What's your opinion? Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 18:03, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: Also, that is the same configuration that is in my settings.xml for my installed maven instance and the profile is active. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Joe White Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? My repository config inside the WB: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo%3c/url /repository /repositories Repo config inside the deployed pom: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo%3c/url /repository /repositories Joe White CIO Technology Enabled Services 303-974-2849tel:303-974-2849 (Office) 720-232-9023tel:720-232-9023 (Cell) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories
The workbench attempts an install and deploy. GuvnorM2Repository in the guvnor project is the class (IIRC). Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 21:47, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: In fact, if I manually go into the guvnor repository, copy the pom.xml directly from the workbench, and command line run mvn deploy the jar gets pushed out to my remote repository. So I know for sure the pom is configured correctly in the workbench Is the workbench actually calling deploy or just install ? Where in the code would be a good starting point to dig a little deeper on this? *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe White *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:15 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've got distribution management that matches my settings xml added to the pom but it doesn't seem to connect (or to attempt to connect) distributionManagement repository idrecondo-repo/id url http://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-release/url /repository snapshotRepository idrecondo-repo/id url http://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-snapshot/url /snapshotRepository /distributionManagement *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [ mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgrules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Anstis *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:56 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories That depends how you're configuring your project's distribution management. Adding (I assume) your remote to the repositories section is only telling maven a remote to query to *download* artifacts. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 20:41, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: So if I change the configuration in the WB UI should I expect the jar to end up in my remote repo? It is only ending up in my local repository. *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Anstis *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:10 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've asked a colleague to comment. We do manipulate the pom for the UI but should retain original content that is not modified by the Project Editor. @Toni... What's your opinion? Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 18:03, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: Also, that is the same configuration that is in my settings.xml for my installed maven instance and the profile is active. *From:* rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe White *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* [rules-users] Updating project repositories I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? *My repository config inside the WB:* repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots url http://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories *Repo config inside the deployed pom:* repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/url /repository /repositories Joe White CIO Technology Enabled Services 303-974-2849 (Office) 720-232-9023 (Cell) ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories
Thanks Mike. I'll take a look. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:03 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories The workbench attempts an install and deploy. GuvnorM2Repository in the guvnor project is the class (IIRC). Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 21:47, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: In fact, if I manually go into the guvnor repository, copy the pom.xml directly from the workbench, and command line run mvn deploy the jar gets pushed out to my remote repository. So I know for sure the pom is configured correctly in the workbench Is the workbench actually calling deploy or just install ? Where in the code would be a good starting point to dig a little deeper on this? From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Joe White Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:15 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've got distribution management that matches my settings xml added to the pom but it doesn't seem to connect (or to attempt to connect) distributionManagement repository idrecondo-repo/id urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-release/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-release%3c/url /repository snapshotRepository idrecondo-repo/id urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-snapshot/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/recondo-snapshot%3c/url /snapshotRepository /distributionManagement From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:56 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories That depends how you're configuring your project's distribution management. Adding (I assume) your remote to the repositories section is only telling maven a remote to query to *download* artifacts. Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 20:41, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: So if I change the configuration in the WB UI should I expect the jar to end up in my remote repo? It is only ending up in my local repository. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Michael Anstis Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:10 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I've asked a colleague to comment. We do manipulate the pom for the UI but should retain original content that is not modified by the Project Editor. @Toni... What's your opinion? Sent on the move On 20 Mar 2014 18:03, Joe White joe.wh...@recondotech.commailto:joe.wh...@recondotech.com wrote: Also, that is the same configuration that is in my settings.xml for my installed maven instance and the profile is active. From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.orgmailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Joe White Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 12:01 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: [rules-users] Updating project repositories I have updated my repository configuration but when I build and deploy by package two things happen: - The jar only gets deployed to my local repo it doesn't go out to the remote instance - The pom doesn't contain the full repository configuration when deployed. The snapshot and releases config are dropped Am I missing a piece of config to get the jar pushed out to my remote repo? My repository config inside the WB: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name releases enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /releases snapshots enabledtrue/enabled updatePolicyalways/updatePolicy checksumPolicyfail/checksumPolicy /snapshots urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo/urlhttp://papaafrepo001.recondo.vci:8081/artifactory/repo%3c/url /repository /repositories Repo config inside the deployed pom: repositories repository idrecondo-repo/id namepapaafrepo001-releases/name
[rules-users] Module in Nexus Never Found
Creating a KieContainer with a ReleaseId to load a jar from a Nexus repo. The ReleaseId has '-SNAPSHOT' coordinates. I know the jar exists in the repo, that it can be accessed, and that it contains the appropriate .drl files, because when I run my project from the command line, using the Maven exec plugin... mvn exec:java ...everything is fine, the jar is found and pulled, the artifacts appear in the local .m2 repo, the rules get loaded, and I'm able to create and use a KieSession. I can test the rules, and they work. All is well. If I run my project in any other way, with the 'java ' command whilst setting the classpath properly, using the Tanukisoft wrapper, etc. every bit of code runs properly, all necessary jar files are available on the classpath, but the KieScanner tells me it can't find the jar... Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Cannot find KieModule: com.mycompany:mymodule:1.0-SNAPSHOT at org.drools.compiler.kie.builder.impl.KieServicesImpl.newKieContainer(KieServicesImpl.java:86) My home directory seems like it's set correctly and is available from properties as 'user.home', I can see a resolver-status.properties file created at the proper place in the user's .m2/repository, so something knows where the repo is, and has access to it. The resolver-status.properties contains only... #NOTE: This is an internal implementation file, its format can be changed without prior notice. #Fri Mar 21 02:31:03 UTC 2014 maven-metadata-local.xml.lastUpdated=1395369063564 maven-metadata-central.xml.lastUpdated=1395369063955 maven-metadata-central.xml.error= maven-metadata-local.xml.error= No luck, unless I use mvn exec:java, and then everything is fine. However, our normal distribution methodology is not going to allow me to via Maven this way. Anyone happen to know what I'm missing so this will work executing the 'java' command? Some jar maven loads during exec that I'm not including as a dependency? Anything? All help appreciated, David -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Module-in-Nexus-Never-Found-tp4028861.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
