Re: [rules-users] Drools Design Patterns

2009-12-03 Thread Ross H
Thanks Mark, Wolfgang, I think this is a worthwhile area, although
difficult. My hope was that "ordinary" users might have a view of what they
want to see, not necessarily formal patterns, but just ways of doing common
problems.

Hopefully we get some more responses from the community, but anyway I'll see
what I can do from a naive user perspective.

Ross.


2009/12/4 Mark Proctor 

>  Wolfgang Laun wrote:
>
> 2009/12/3 Mark Proctor 
>
>> http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/UsagePatterns
>>
>
> This link is OK, but from there on,
>
>- some point to "An article with that name does not exist. It may have
>been renamed or deleted."
>- one or two forward you to sketchy pages, not really explaining
>anything,
>- a few lead to theoretical discussions, not remotely showing anything
>like workable examples.
>
> Not perfect, but at least consistent, moderately readable and, possibly,
> even helpful is Cousin Jess' WiKi, see
> http://www.jessrules.com/jesswiki/view
>
> I put it up years ago with some titles to get it started in the hope that
> the community would continue with it and flesh it out, as they discovered
> things. No one ever did :( I referenced it as a starting point for Ross if
> he wants to share his findings.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -W
>
>
>
>>
>> Mark
>> Ross H wrote:
>>
>>  I've been using Drools for about a year now, but still consider myself a
>> newbie,
>> although I'm starting to get a better idea of how to implement solutions,
>> for the
>> experts this is probably second nature.
>>
>>  Whilst the Drools doco is very good, and the blog/mailing lists are a
>> great source of info,
>> and there are now some very good books on Drools, there is a hugh amount
>> of
>> functionality emerging in the Drools project, it's almost becoming a full
>> time activity just
>> to keep up. I wonder if the time is coming to start collecting real
>> experiences into a form that
>> makes it easier for new users to work out how to attack their problem.
>>
>>  I hate to re-invent the wheel and if this exists in some form elsewhere,
>> I'd like to know.
>> If not, then it might be good to capture this knowledge in some way. I'm
>> interested in
>> some views from the user community on what they would like to see.
>>
>>  Maybe the way to go is add some pages to the JBoss Drools wiki and
>> evolve it from there,
>> and provide a way for the drools user community to contribute to the
>> overall success of Drools,
>> rather than just ask questions.
>>
>>
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Design Patterns

2009-12-03 Thread Mark Proctor

Wolfgang Laun wrote:
2009/12/3 Mark Proctor >


http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/UsagePatterns


This link is OK, but from there on,

* some point to "An article with that name does not exist. It may
  have been renamed or deleted."
* one or two forward you to sketchy pages, not really explaining
  anything,
* a few lead to theoretical discussions, not remotely showing
  anything like workable examples.

Not perfect, but at least consistent, moderately readable and, 
possibly, even helpful is Cousin Jess' WiKi, see

http://www.jessrules.com/jesswiki/view
I put it up years ago with some titles to get it started in the hope 
that the community would continue with it and flesh it out, as they 
discovered things. No one ever did :( I referenced it as a starting 
point for Ross if he wants to share his findings.


Mark


-W

 



Mark
Ross H wrote:

I've been using Drools for about a year now, but still consider
myself a newbie, 
although I'm starting to get a better idea of how to implement

solutions, for the
experts this is probably second nature.

Whilst the Drools doco is very good, and the blog/mailing lists
are a great source of info,
and there are now some very good books on Drools, there is a hugh
amount of 
functionality emerging in the Drools project, it's almost
becoming a full time activity just 
to keep up. I wonder if the time is coming to start collecting
real experiences into a form that 
makes it easier for new users to work out how to attack their
problem.  


I hate to re-invent the wheel and if this exists in some form
elsewhere, I'd like to know.
If not, then it might be good to capture this knowledge in some
way. I'm interested in 
some views from the user community on what they would like to see. 


Maybe the way to go is add some pages to the JBoss Drools wiki
and evolve it from there,
and provide a way for the drools user community to contribute to
the overall success of Drools, 
rather than just ask questions.





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Re: [rules-users] Drools Design Patterns

2009-12-03 Thread Wolfgang Laun
2009/12/3 Mark Proctor 

>  http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/UsagePatterns
>

This link is OK, but from there on,

   - some point to "An article with that name does not exist. It may have
   been renamed or deleted."
   - one or two forward you to sketchy pages, not really explaining
   anything,
   - a few lead to theoretical discussions, not remotely showing anything
   like workable examples.

Not perfect, but at least consistent, moderately readable and, possibly,
even helpful is Cousin Jess' WiKi, see
http://www.jessrules.com/jesswiki/view

-W



>
> Mark
> Ross H wrote:
>
> I've been using Drools for about a year now, but still consider myself a
> newbie,
> although I'm starting to get a better idea of how to implement solutions,
> for the
> experts this is probably second nature.
>
>  Whilst the Drools doco is very good, and the blog/mailing lists are a
> great source of info,
> and there are now some very good books on Drools, there is a hugh amount
> of
> functionality emerging in the Drools project, it's almost becoming a full
> time activity just
> to keep up. I wonder if the time is coming to start collecting real
> experiences into a form that
> makes it easier for new users to work out how to attack their problem.
>
>  I hate to re-invent the wheel and if this exists in some form elsewhere,
> I'd like to know.
> If not, then it might be good to capture this knowledge in some way. I'm
> interested in
> some views from the user community on what they would like to see.
>
>  Maybe the way to go is add some pages to the JBoss Drools wiki and evolve
> it from there,
> and provide a way for the drools user community to contribute to the
> overall success of Drools,
> rather than just ask questions.
>
>
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Design Patterns

2009-12-03 Thread Mark Proctor

http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/UsagePatterns

Mark
Ross H wrote:
I've been using Drools for about a year now, but still consider myself 
a newbie, 
although I'm starting to get a better idea of how to implement 
solutions, for the

experts this is probably second nature.

Whilst the Drools doco is very good, and the blog/mailing lists are a 
great source of info,
and there are now some very good books on Drools, there is a hugh 
amount of 
functionality emerging in the Drools project, it's almost becoming a 
full time activity just 
to keep up. I wonder if the time is coming to start collecting real 
experiences into a form that 
makes it easier for new users to work out how to attack their problem.  

I hate to re-invent the wheel and if this exists in some form 
elsewhere, I'd like to know.
If not, then it might be good to capture this knowledge in some way. 
I'm interested in 
some views from the user community on what they would like to see. 

Maybe the way to go is add some pages to the JBoss Drools wiki and 
evolve it from there,
and provide a way for the drools user community to contribute to the 
overall success of Drools, 
rather than just ask questions.





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[rules-users] Drools Design Patterns

2009-12-03 Thread Ross H
I've been using Drools for about a year now, but still consider myself a
newbie,
although I'm starting to get a better idea of how to implement solutions,
for the
experts this is probably second nature.

Whilst the Drools doco is very good, and the blog/mailing lists are a great
source of info,
and there are now some very good books on Drools, there is a hugh amount of
functionality emerging in the Drools project, it's almost becoming a full
time activity just
to keep up. I wonder if the time is coming to start collecting real
experiences into a form that
makes it easier for new users to work out how to attack their problem.

I hate to re-invent the wheel and if this exists in some form elsewhere, I'd
like to know.
If not, then it might be good to capture this knowledge in some way. I'm
interested in
some views from the user community on what they would like to see.

Maybe the way to go is add some pages to the JBoss Drools wiki and evolve it
from there,
and provide a way for the drools user community to contribute to the overall
success of Drools,
rather than just ask questions.
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