subject:"\[rules\-users\] Drools Guvnor"

Hi Davide,

I can write the listener to know what is happening underneath that will be
printed in a log, but when it comes to my biz. scenario i should have a
simple way that i can derive it from my java code. Because i have multiple
biz.flows based on certain biz.policies...those policies have to be derived
from the execution of specific rules within my package...

Can you please thorow little more light on this

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor-Decison Tables - Rule is not being fired!!! Please help

2012-07-16 Thread Davide Sottara

You could add an AgendaEventListener to your session (see also the manual for
listeners),
letting you execute callback code whenever a rule is activated/fires/etc...

The listener is actually an interface, I think there is at least one default
implementation which 
just logs debug code. Notice that a possibility for a listener is to insert
the callback events into
a (separate) session and use rules to process them ;)

Best
Davide


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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.4.0 - Rules integration with database (Oracle)

Hi Drools gurus,

Further to my earlier post in the same thread, 

1) please clarify whether the respository folder still exists after the
database integration?
2) If the repository folder still exists even after database integration,
then there is something wrong with my process.
3) After the development is completed in my DEV. environment, How do i
promote my changes to SIT or different environment (means repository)?

Please let me know if you need more details...

thanks a lot.


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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor-Decison Tables - Rule is not being fired!!! Please help

Thanks Esteban. It works fine after inserting the Fact instead of
FactType...!!!

But still i have one basic question in mind...if there are many rules
defined in my package, How would i know that which is rule has got fired
when i call fireAllRules() method whithout passing AgendaFilter. Also i know
that fireAllRules() gives me how many rules have got fired like int x =
session.fireAllRules()

I have defined specific set of rules defined in a package for one biz. logic
and deployed drools war seperately. From the Application integration
perspective, I should be able to know whether my rules is fired or not.
Based on the success or failure i'll have to do some biz. processing

Little confusing here...i know that i am almost there...but i need some
light here to understand better for the integration purpose.

Please help!!!

Thanks a lot in Advance...

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor-Decison Tables - Rule is not being fired!!! Please help

2012-07-16 Thread Ravikiran kakarla

ooops. I'll try tomorrow in office and will reply...thanks a lot

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Esteban Aliverti <
esteban.alive...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The problem is that you are inserting the fact type definition instead of
> the facts themselves.
>
> instead of insert *appType* and *incomeType* you should insert *
> application* and *income*.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> 
>
> Esteban Aliverti
> - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Wolfgang Laun wrote:
>
>> Why do you think that you should have a third fact when there are no
>> insert() calls except the two in your Java code?
>> -W
>>
>> On 16/07/2012, Ravikiran  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm using default Guvnor package "mortgages" decision table as example
>> for
>> > my POC. Below is the rules from the decision table. No rule is being
>> fired
>> > from my JAVA client out of 3 rules given below.
>> >
>> > //from row number: 1
>> > rule "Row 3 Pricing loans"
>> >   dialect "mvel"
>> >   when
>> >application : LoanApplication( amount > "131000" ,
>> amount <=
>> > "20" , lengthYears == "30" , deposit < "2" )
>> >   income : IncomeSource( type == "Asset" )
>> >   then
>> >   application.setApproved( true );
>> >   application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
>> >   application.setApprovedRate( 2 );
>> > end
>> >
>> > //from row number: 2
>> > rule "Row 1 Pricing loans"
>> >   dialect "mvel"
>> >   when
>> >   application : LoanApplication( amount > "1" , amount
>> <= "10" ,
>> > lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "2000" )
>> >   income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
>> >   then
>> >   application.setApproved( true );
>> >   application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
>> >   application.setApprovedRate( 4 );
>> > end
>> >
>> > //from row number: 3
>> > rule "Row 2 Pricing loans"
>> >   dialect "mvel"
>> >   when
>> >   application : LoanApplication( amount > "11" , amount
>> <= "13" ,
>> > lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "3000" )
>> >   income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
>> >   then
>> >   application.setApproved( true );
>> >   application.setInsuranceCost( 10 );
>> >   application.setApprovedRate( 6 );
>> > end
>> >
>> > ==> My Java client follows
>> > KnowledgeBase knowledgeBase = createKnowledgeBase(); //Successfully
>> creates
>> > knowledgebase
>> > StatefulKnowledgeSession session =
>> > knowledgeBase.newStatefulKnowledgeSession();
>> >
>> > FactType appType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
>> > "LoanApplication" );
>> > FactType incomeType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
>> > "IncomeSource" );
>> >
>> > Object application = appType.newInstance();
>> > Object income = incomeType.newInstance();
>> >
>> > appType.set(application, "amount", 10);
>> > appType.set(application, "deposit", 1500);
>> > appType.set(application, "lengthYears", 20);
>> >
>> > incomeType.set(income, "type", "Job");
>> > incomeType.set(income, "amount", 65000);
>> >
>> > session.insert(appType);
>> > session.insert(incomeType);
>> >
>> > assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 2);
>> > session.fireAllRules();
>> > assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 3);
>> >
>> > Question: I hope the way i pass the input satisfies "Row 2 Pricing
>> loans"
>> > above. But My assertion is getting failed after calling
>> > fireAllRules()...because the factcount was still 2. Please help what
>> could
>> > be the wrong in above scenario.
>> >
>> > thanks a lot.
>> >
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor-Decison Tables - Rule is not being fired!!! Please help

2012-07-16 Thread Esteban Aliverti

The problem is that you are inserting the fact type definition instead of
the facts themselves.

instead of insert *appType* and *incomeType* you should insert *application*and
*income*.

Best Regards,



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- Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com


On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Wolfgang Laun wrote:

> Why do you think that you should have a third fact when there are no
> insert() calls except the two in your Java code?
> -W
>
> On 16/07/2012, Ravikiran  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm using default Guvnor package "mortgages" decision table as example
> for
> > my POC. Below is the rules from the decision table. No rule is being
> fired
> > from my JAVA client out of 3 rules given below.
> >
> > //from row number: 1
> > rule "Row 3 Pricing loans"
> >   dialect "mvel"
> >   when
> >application : LoanApplication( amount > "131000" ,
> amount <=
> > "20" , lengthYears == "30" , deposit < "2" )
> >   income : IncomeSource( type == "Asset" )
> >   then
> >   application.setApproved( true );
> >   application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
> >   application.setApprovedRate( 2 );
> > end
> >
> > //from row number: 2
> > rule "Row 1 Pricing loans"
> >   dialect "mvel"
> >   when
> >   application : LoanApplication( amount > "1" , amount
> <= "10" ,
> > lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "2000" )
> >   income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
> >   then
> >   application.setApproved( true );
> >   application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
> >   application.setApprovedRate( 4 );
> > end
> >
> > //from row number: 3
> > rule "Row 2 Pricing loans"
> >   dialect "mvel"
> >   when
> >   application : LoanApplication( amount > "11" , amount
> <= "13" ,
> > lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "3000" )
> >   income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
> >   then
> >   application.setApproved( true );
> >   application.setInsuranceCost( 10 );
> >   application.setApprovedRate( 6 );
> > end
> >
> > ==> My Java client follows
> > KnowledgeBase knowledgeBase = createKnowledgeBase(); //Successfully
> creates
> > knowledgebase
> > StatefulKnowledgeSession session =
> > knowledgeBase.newStatefulKnowledgeSession();
> >
> > FactType appType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
> > "LoanApplication" );
> > FactType incomeType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
> > "IncomeSource" );
> >
> > Object application = appType.newInstance();
> > Object income = incomeType.newInstance();
> >
> > appType.set(application, "amount", 10);
> > appType.set(application, "deposit", 1500);
> > appType.set(application, "lengthYears", 20);
> >
> > incomeType.set(income, "type", "Job");
> > incomeType.set(income, "amount", 65000);
> >
> > session.insert(appType);
> > session.insert(incomeType);
> >
> > assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 2);
> > session.fireAllRules();
> > assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 3);
> >
> > Question: I hope the way i pass the input satisfies "Row 2 Pricing loans"
> > above. But My assertion is getting failed after calling
> > fireAllRules()...because the factcount was still 2. Please help what
> could
> > be the wrong in above scenario.
> >
> > thanks a lot.
> >
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor-Decison Tables - Rule is not being fired!!! Please help

2012-07-16 Thread Wolfgang Laun

Why do you think that you should have a third fact when there are no
insert() calls except the two in your Java code?
-W

On 16/07/2012, Ravikiran  wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm using default Guvnor package "mortgages" decision table as example for
> my POC. Below is the rules from the decision table. No rule is being fired
> from my JAVA client out of 3 rules given below.
>
> //from row number: 1
> rule "Row 3 Pricing loans"
>   dialect "mvel"
>   when
>application : LoanApplication( amount > "131000" , amount 
> <=
> "20" , lengthYears == "30" , deposit < "2" )
>   income : IncomeSource( type == "Asset" )
>   then
>   application.setApproved( true );
>   application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
>   application.setApprovedRate( 2 );
> end
>
> //from row number: 2
> rule "Row 1 Pricing loans"
>   dialect "mvel"
>   when
>   application : LoanApplication( amount > "1" , amount <= 
> "10" ,
> lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "2000" )
>   income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
>   then
>   application.setApproved( true );
>   application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
>   application.setApprovedRate( 4 );
> end
>
> //from row number: 3
> rule "Row 2 Pricing loans"
>   dialect "mvel"
>   when
>   application : LoanApplication( amount > "11" , amount <= 
> "13" ,
> lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "3000" )
>   income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
>   then
>   application.setApproved( true );
>   application.setInsuranceCost( 10 );
>   application.setApprovedRate( 6 );
> end
>
> ==> My Java client follows
> KnowledgeBase knowledgeBase = createKnowledgeBase(); //Successfully creates
> knowledgebase
> StatefulKnowledgeSession session =
> knowledgeBase.newStatefulKnowledgeSession();
>
> FactType appType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
> "LoanApplication" );
> FactType incomeType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
> "IncomeSource" );
>
> Object application = appType.newInstance();
> Object income = incomeType.newInstance();
>
> appType.set(application, "amount", 10);
> appType.set(application, "deposit", 1500);
> appType.set(application, "lengthYears", 20);
>
> incomeType.set(income, "type", "Job");
> incomeType.set(income, "amount", 65000);
>
> session.insert(appType);
> session.insert(incomeType);
>
> assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 2);
> session.fireAllRules();
> assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 3);
>
> Question: I hope the way i pass the input satisfies "Row 2 Pricing loans"
> above. But My assertion is getting failed after calling
> fireAllRules()...because the factcount was still 2. Please help what could
> be the wrong in above scenario.
>
> thanks a lot.
>
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[rules-users] Drools Guvnor-Decison Tables - Rule is not being fired!!! Please help

Hi,
I'm using default Guvnor package "mortgages" decision table as example for
my POC. Below is the rules from the decision table. No rule is being fired
from my JAVA client out of 3 rules given below.

//from row number: 1
rule "Row 3 Pricing loans"
dialect "mvel"
when
 application : LoanApplication( amount > "131000" , amount 
<=
"20" , lengthYears == "30" , deposit < "2" )
income : IncomeSource( type == "Asset" )
then
application.setApproved( true );
application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
application.setApprovedRate( 2 );
end

//from row number: 2
rule "Row 1 Pricing loans"
dialect "mvel"
when
application : LoanApplication( amount > "1" , amount <= 
"10" ,
lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "2000" )
income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
then
application.setApproved( true );
application.setInsuranceCost( 0 );
application.setApprovedRate( 4 );
end

//from row number: 3
rule "Row 2 Pricing loans"
dialect "mvel"
when
application : LoanApplication( amount > "11" , amount <= 
"13" ,
lengthYears == "20" , deposit < "3000" )
income : IncomeSource( type == "Job" )
then
application.setApproved( true );
application.setInsuranceCost( 10 );
application.setApprovedRate( 6 );
end

==> My Java client follows
KnowledgeBase knowledgeBase = createKnowledgeBase(); //Successfully creates
knowledgebase
StatefulKnowledgeSession session =
knowledgeBase.newStatefulKnowledgeSession();

FactType appType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
"LoanApplication" );
FactType incomeType = knowledgeBase.getFactType( "mortgages",
"IncomeSource" );

Object application = appType.newInstance();
Object income = incomeType.newInstance();

appType.set(application, "amount", 10);
appType.set(application, "deposit", 1500);
appType.set(application, "lengthYears", 20);

incomeType.set(income, "type", "Job");
incomeType.set(income, "amount", 65000);

session.insert(appType);
session.insert(incomeType);

assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 2);
session.fireAllRules();
assertTrue(session.getFactCount() == 3);

Question: I hope the way i pass the input satisfies "Row 2 Pricing loans"
above. But My assertion is getting failed after calling
fireAllRules()...because the factcount was still 2. Please help what could
be the wrong in above scenario.

thanks a lot.

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[rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.4.0 - Rules integration with database (Oracle)

Hi,
I working on creating a POC by creating set of web based rules within a
package using drools Guvnor and accessing them from my Java client.
Currently, my drools uses Jackrabbit repository (2 foldersrepository and
scripts and 1 file repository.xml) which is created within "bin" folder of
my JBoss AS.
I have gone through the steps given in user guide for database integration,
I am using Oracle as my database and i generated oracle based repository.xml
using the administration in Drools Guvnor and placed it under my bin folder.
I have stopped the server and deleted exsting 2 folders and one xml file. I
have restarted my server with the deployment of drools-guvnor.war. When i
start the guvnor web, it has asked me whether to load the sample packages
for the fisrt time, i said yes.
Now when i go and see in bin directory, i could still see one respository
folder. Also, i could see there were 6-7 tables have been created in oracle
database which were belongs to jboss drools only.

I would need some experts suggestion here,
is it the right way to do the rule integration with the database?
What is right way to promote the same changes to SIT or UAT?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor - question on "mortgages" package in "guvnor-distribution-5.4.0.Final"

2012-07-13 Thread Ravikiran

It's very clear now. Thanks a lot Mike.

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor - question on "mortgages" package in "guvnor-distribution-5.4.0.Final"

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Anstis

The mortgages example uses a declarative model, not a POJO JAR model.

There will be an asset for the model.

On 13 July 2012 08:46, Ravikiran  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have deployed drools-guvnor.war version 5.4.0 in Jboss AS 7. When i
> launch
> the guvnor for the first time, it also loads the defalult packages, one
> package is called "mortgages" is also loaded. Mortgages package contans
> totally 7 diff. rules, but when i go see the model of the mortgages i do
> not
> see any classes displayed over there. But, i was able to build & create
> deployment SNAPSHOT successfully. Even the rule DSL source contains all
> classes like LoanApplication etc.,.
>
> How is it possible? Do you mean, some kind of related drl file is uploaded
> as a Model? please clarify?
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[rules-users] Drools Guvnor - question on "mortgages" package in "guvnor-distribution-5.4.0.Final"

2012-07-13 Thread Ravikiran

Hi,
I have deployed drools-guvnor.war version 5.4.0 in Jboss AS 7. When i launch
the guvnor for the first time, it also loads the defalult packages, one
package is called "mortgages" is also loaded. Mortgages package contans
totally 7 diff. rules, but when i go see the model of the mortgages i do not
see any classes displayed over there. But, i was able to build & create
deployment SNAPSHOT successfully. Even the rule DSL source contains all
classes like LoanApplication etc.,.

How is it possible? Do you mean, some kind of related drl file is uploaded
as a Model? please clarify?

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Re: [rules-users] Drools-guvnor simple example Help

2012-06-25 Thread Michael Anstis

I suspect you are thinking way too procedurally.

If one was to place individual rules into separate Agenda Groups you could
emulate "go to", but you should probably be asking yourself "why".

On 25 June 2012 12:24, abhinay_agarwal  wrote:

> hey mike,
>
> no i cant differentiate them at object level...
>
> can agenda groups help me jump from one rule to other across packages ?
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Re: [rules-users] Drools-guvnor simple example Help

2012-06-25 Thread abhinay_agarwal

hey mike,

no i cant differentiate them at object level...

can agenda groups help me jump from one rule to other across packages ?

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Re: [rules-users] Drools-guvnor simple example Help

2012-06-25 Thread Michael Anstis

How do you know what set of rules need to be executed?

Do you make the decision based upon the business-transaction or Object
types, or Object properties?

I only ask as you may not need to worry about which rules run and which do
not if you can differentiate at the Object level. For example:-

//This will only activate for Account's of type SAVING
when
Account( type == SAVINGS )
then

//This will only activate for Account's of type CURRENT
when
Account( type == CURRENT )
then

//This will activate for all Accounts
when
Account( )
then


If you really need to define which sets of rules run I'd suggest you read
about Agenda Groups in the Drools Expert documentation. Other techniques
are possible but this is the simplest. To understand how rules authored in
Guvnor behave it is important to understand the underlying engine,
drools-expert.

With kind regards,

Mike

On 25 June 2012 11:27, abhinay_agarwal  wrote:

> i m pretty new to this tool..ve started using it a few days ago...
>
> now wat i need to do is to create rules for a bank account..
>
> i ve different rules for opening a savings account and different for
> creating a current account..
> and der are some rules which sud be satisfied by both the
> customers..(common
> rules)
>
>
> for ex : if rule1 and rule2 are common rules
>
> rule 3 and rule 4 for opening a savings a/c
> rule 5 and rule 6 for opening a current a/c
>
> For savings a/c and current a/c i created two different packages and
> created
> rules in dem..
>
> Now wat do i do for the common rules and how do i maintain the flow that
> 1st
> rule1 sud b checked then rule 2..den either rule3/4 sud b checked n
> likewise..
>
> hope you understand my question..if any doubts..please ask..m new to this
> tool..dun ve much idea so plz b as explanatory as you can while explaining
> !!!
>
> tnxx in advance !! :)
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[rules-users] Drools-guvnor simple example Help

2012-06-25 Thread abhinay_agarwal

i m pretty new to this tool..ve started using it a few days ago... 

now wat i need to do is to create rules for a bank account.. 

i ve different rules for opening a savings account and different for
creating a current account.. 
and der are some rules which sud be satisfied by both the customers..(common
rules) 


for ex : if rule1 and rule2 are common rules 

rule 3 and rule 4 for opening a savings a/c 
rule 5 and rule 6 for opening a current a/c 

For savings a/c and current a/c i created two different packages and created
rules in dem.. 

Now wat do i do for the common rules and how do i maintain the flow that 1st
rule1 sud b checked then rule 2..den either rule3/4 sud b checked n
likewise.. 

hope you understand my question..if any doubts..please ask..m new to this
tool..dun ve much idea so plz b as explanatory as you can while explaining
!!! 

tnxx in advance !! :) 

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[rules-users] drools guvnor 5.4 final deployment error

2012-06-15 Thread domingo

Hi,
I am trying to deploy drools guvnor 5.4 war into jboss5.1.0.GA apps server,
but i got the following error...
..

caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
javax.validation.MessageInterpolato
$Context
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
   at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
   at
org.jboss.classloader.spi.base.BaseClassLoaderDomain.loadClass(BaseCl

help will be appreciated...
thanks,


-
with kind regards,

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor - validate a rule results in "Unable to Analyse Expression"

2012-04-27 Thread Michael Anstis

Can you create a JIRA https://issues.jboss.org/browse/GUVNOR and attach a
repository export please?

On 25 April 2012 13:57, FlyingEagle wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I have defined some rules in Eclipse and tested with JUnit tests and
> everything was fine.
> Now I defined the rules in Guvnor and while validating I get the following
> error:
>
> [CardTrapping] Unable to Analyse Expression Fraud fraud = new
> Fraud(Fraud.CARD_TRAPPING, new SSTEvent[] { $event1, $event2, $event3,
> $event4 }); fraudControl.handleFraud(fraud);: [Error: expected type:
> com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.SSTEvent; but found:
> com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.SSTEvent] [Near : {... SSTEvent[] { $event1,
> $event2, $event3, $event4 }) }] ^ [Line: 1, Column: 70]
>
> I have imported my data model, before creating the rules, therefor for the
> type SSTEvent an import is defined. But it seems, that the type SSTEvent
> exists with different versions?
>
> I have this problem for each rule, when I'm using the SSTEvent type in the
> "then" case.
>
> Here the complete rule defintion:
>
> package com.wn.fraud.droolstest
>
> import com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.Fraud;
> import com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.FraudControl;
> import com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.SSTEvent;
>
> global FraudControl fraudControl;
>
> rule "CardTrapping"
>when
>$event1 : SSTEvent ( eventNumber == SSTEvent.CARD_JAMMED ) from
> entry-point "device-event-stream"
>$event2 : SSTEvent ( this after [ 0s, 30s ] $event1,
> eventNumber == SSTEvent.IN_SERVICE,
> deviceId == $event1.deviceId,
> branchName == $event1.branchName ) from entry-point
> "device-event-stream"
>$event3 : SSTEvent ( this after [ 0s, 30s ] $event2,
> eventNumber == SSTEvent.CARD_JAMMED,
> deviceId == $event1.deviceId,
> branchName == $event1.branchName ) from entry-point
> "device-event-stream"
>$event4 : SSTEvent ( this after [ 0s, 30s ] $event3,
> eventNumber == SSTEvent.IN_SERVICE,
> deviceId == $event1.deviceId,
> branchName == $event1.branchName ) from entry-point
> "device-event-stream"
>then
>// inform fraud control
>Fraud fraud = new Fraud(Fraud.CARD_TRAPPING, new SSTEvent[] {
> $event1, $event2, $event3, $event4 });
>fraudControl.handleFraud(fraud);
> end
>
>
> Thx a lot for help!
>
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[rules-users] Drools Guvnor - validate a rule results in "Unable to Analyse Expression"

2012-04-25 Thread FlyingEagle

Hi folks,

I have defined some rules in Eclipse and tested with JUnit tests and
everything was fine.
Now I defined the rules in Guvnor and while validating I get the following
error:

[CardTrapping] Unable to Analyse Expression Fraud fraud = new
Fraud(Fraud.CARD_TRAPPING, new SSTEvent[] { $event1, $event2, $event3,
$event4 }); fraudControl.handleFraud(fraud);: [Error: expected type:
com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.SSTEvent; but found:
com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.SSTEvent] [Near : {... SSTEvent[] { $event1,
$event2, $event3, $event4 }) }] ^ [Line: 1, Column: 70]

I have imported my data model, before creating the rules, therefor for the
type SSTEvent an import is defined. But it seems, that the type SSTEvent
exists with different versions?

I have this problem for each rule, when I'm using the SSTEvent type in the
"then" case.

Here the complete rule defintion:

package com.wn.fraud.droolstest

import com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.Fraud;
import com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.FraudControl;
import com.wn.fraud.droolstest.model.SSTEvent;

global FraudControl fraudControl;

rule "CardTrapping"
when
$event1 : SSTEvent ( eventNumber == SSTEvent.CARD_JAMMED ) from
entry-point "device-event-stream"
$event2 : SSTEvent ( this after [ 0s, 30s ] $event1, 
 eventNumber == SSTEvent.IN_SERVICE,
 deviceId == $event1.deviceId,
 branchName == $event1.branchName ) from entry-point
"device-event-stream"
$event3 : SSTEvent ( this after [ 0s, 30s ] $event2, 
 eventNumber == SSTEvent.CARD_JAMMED,
 deviceId == $event1.deviceId,
 branchName == $event1.branchName ) from entry-point
"device-event-stream"
$event4 : SSTEvent ( this after [ 0s, 30s ] $event3, 
 eventNumber == SSTEvent.IN_SERVICE,
 deviceId == $event1.deviceId,
 branchName == $event1.branchName ) from entry-point
"device-event-stream"
then
// inform fraud control
Fraud fraud = new Fraud(Fraud.CARD_TRAPPING, new SSTEvent[] {
$event1, $event2, $event3, $event4 });
fraudControl.handleFraud(fraud);
end 


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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.0.1 - Memory Usage Tuning

2012-03-02 Thread tdakanalis

Hi again,

I have collect some more information regarding the problem I mentioned in my
previous post. I take a thread dump during the compilation process and as I
can see the thread that makes the compilation is the following:

"http-8080-20" daemon prio=10 tid=0x7f445054d800 nid=0x6abb runnable
[0x7f444db7f000]
   java.lang.Thread.State: RUNNABLE
at
org.eclipse.jdt.core.compiler.CharOperation.equals(CharOperation.java:1641)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.util.HashtableOfPackage.put(HashtableOfPackage.java:69)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.PackageBinding.addNotFoundPackage(PackageBinding.java:45)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.PackageBinding.getPackage(PackageBinding.java:102)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.CompilationUnitScope.buildTypeBindings(CompilationUnitScope.java:119)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.lookup.LookupEnvironment.buildTypeBindings(LookupEnvironment.java:147)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.Compiler.internalBeginToCompile(Compiler.java:701)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.Compiler.beginToCompile(Compiler.java:376)
at
org.eclipse.jdt.internal.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:420)
at
org.drools.commons.jci.compilers.EclipseJavaCompiler.compile(EclipseJavaCompiler.java:351)
at
org.drools.commons.jci.compilers.AbstractJavaCompiler.compile(AbstractJavaCompiler.java:51)
at
org.drools.rule.builder.dialect.java.JavaDialect.compileAll(JavaDialect.java:389)
at
org.drools.compiler.DialectCompiletimeRegistry.compileAll(DialectCompiletimeRegistry.java:56)
at
org.drools.compiler.PackageRegistry.compileAll(PackageRegistry.java:74)
at
org.drools.compiler.PackageBuilder.compileAll(PackageBuilder.java:690)
at
org.drools.compiler.PackageBuilder.addPackage(PackageBuilder.java:653)
at
org.drools.compiler.PackageBuilder.addPackageFromDrl(PackageBuilder.java:278)
at
org.drools.guvnor.server.contenthandler.DecisionTableXLSHandler.compile(DecisionTableXLSHandler.java:64)

Supposing that there is not any way to reduce the memory/cpu usage and the
time delay (1 hour for the compilation of 22K rules) of the compilation
process, is there any way to reduce the priority of the above thread, so
that the other threads will not be stacked, and to restore the priority
after the end of the compilation process?  

Is this the appropriate forum to ask such kind of questions? If not where
can I find some answers?
 

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[rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.0.1 - Memory Usage Tuning

2012-02-29 Thread tdakanalis

Hi,

We're using Drools Guvnor 5.0.1 in a production environment, running on
Tomcat 6.  We're experiencing permgen issues, particularly when doing large
imports of rules, archiving, or compilation of rules.

Following permgen exceptions, we increased the permgen to :
-XX:MaxPermSize=2048M -ms3192M -mx3192M.

This sustained us for a while, but our assets are ever growing, and again
we're exceeding the permgen space allocated.  Can someone recommend
appropriate settings/configuration in order to reduce the memory/cpu usage?

Assets in Guvnor:
~ 21K rules in 11 decision tables (.xls) in 1 package

Thanks,

Themistoklis Dakanalis

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Re: [rules-users] Drools : Guvnor issue on tomcat when attempting to use Oracle DB as rule store

2012-02-20 Thread Kevin Kelleher

Thanks Mantis,

Working now .. I just increased the heap size ... so I was wrong, it was the
cause - not the symptom.

Regards,
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Re: [rules-users] Drools : Guvnor issue on tomcat when attempting to use Oracle DB as rule store

2012-02-17 Thread Kevin Kelleher

Hi Mantis,

Thanks for the response 

I'm pretty sure that the "out of memory" is a symptom not the cause. 

The console give a warning  "SEVERE: The web application [/guvnor] appears
to have started a thread named [Timer-0] but has failed to stop it. This is
very likely to create a memory leak." Hence I wasnt surprised to see this
error.

I'll increase the heap size anyway once back at work and see where I am. 

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Re: [rules-users] Drools : Guvnor issue on tomcat when attempting to use Oracle DB as rule store

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Anstis

The localhost log shows an Out Of Memory error. Have you tried increasing
the heap size?

sent on the move

On 17 Feb 2012 17:36, "Kevin Kelleher"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First time post on drools ...
>
> I installed Guvnor 5.3.0 on tomcat 6.0.35. When I used the default
> (Jackrabbit) datastore all worked fine.
>
> I next went about trying to change guvnor to use an external RDBMS (Oracle
> 10g) . I generated a new repository.xml . As per reference manual I used
> the
> Repository Configuration Manager to generate a new repository.xml file.
> However on startup with new repository.xml file, I get the following errors
> ( console, localhost & catalina).
>
> Can anyone shed some light ?
>
> thanks in advance,
> Kevin
>
> ## console - start ##
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener init
> INFO: The APR based Apache Tomcat Native library which allows optimal
> performanc
> e in production environments was not found on the java.library.path:
> C:\Progra~2
>
> \Java\JDK15~1.0_0\bin;.;C:\windows\system32;C:\windows;C:\oracle\product\10.2.0\
>
> client_1\bin;C:\windows\system32;C:\windows;C:\windows\System32\Wbem;C:\windows\
> System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI
> Technologies\ATI.ACE
> \Core-Static;C:\Progra~2\Java\JDK15~1.0_0\bin;C:\apache-ant-1.7.0\bin
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol init
> INFO: Initializing Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina load
> INFO: Initialization processed in 267 ms
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService start
> INFO: Starting service Catalina
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine start
> INFO: Starting Servlet Engine: Apache Tomcat/6.0.35
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
> deployDescriptor
> INFO: Deploying configuration descriptor host-manager.xml
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig
> deployDescriptor
> INFO: Deploying configuration descriptor manager.xml
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployWAR
> INFO: Deploying web application archive guvnor.war
> INFO  17-02 17:14:23,713 (RulesRepositoryConfigurator.java:getInstance:46)
>
>
>  Creating an instance of the RulesRepositoryConfigurator.
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:24 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start
> SEVERE: Error listenerStart
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:24 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start
> SEVERE: Context [/guvnor] startup failed due to previous errors
> INFO  17-02 17:14:24,681 (LoggingHelper.java:info:49)Removing
> listeners
> Removing all listeners...
> Listeners removed...
> INFO  17-02 17:14:24,681 (LoggingHelper.java:info:49)Shutting down
> repositor
> y
> INFO  17-02 17:14:24,681 (RulesRepositoryConfigurator.java:shutdown:172)
>  SHUTDOWN RULES CONFIG
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:24 org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader
> clearReference
> sThreads
> SEVERE: The web application [/guvnor] appears to have started a thread
> named
> [Ti
> mer-0] but has failed to stop it. This is very likely to create a memory
> leak.
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDirectory
> INFO: Deploying web application directory docs
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDirectory
> INFO: Deploying web application directory examples
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDirectory
> INFO: Deploying web application directory ROOT
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol start
> INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init
> INFO: JK: ajp13 listening on /0.0.0.0:8009
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.jk.server.JkMain start
> INFO: Jk running ID=0 time=0/0  config=null
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
> INFO: Server startup in 4457 ms
> ## console - end ##
>
> ## localhost log -start 
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:12 org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: SessionListener: contextDestroyed()
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:12 org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log
> INFO: ContextListener: contextDestroyed()
> 17-Feb-2012 17:14:24 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext listenerStart
> SEVERE: Exception sending context initialized event to listener instance of
> class org.jboss.seam.servlet.SeamListener
> org.jboss.seam.InstantiationException: Could not instantiate Seam
> component:
> repositoryConfiguration
>at org.jboss.seam.Component.newInstance(Component.java:2170)
>at org.jboss.seam.contexts.Contexts.startup(Contexts.java:304)
>at org.jboss.seam.contexts.Contexts.startup(Contexts.java:278)
>at
>
> org.jboss.seam.contexts.ServletLifecycle.endInitialization(ServletLifecycle.java:143)
>at org.jboss.seam.init.Initialization.init(Initialization.j

[rules-users] Drools : Guvnor issue on tomcat when attempting to use Oracle DB as rule store

2012-02-17 Thread Kevin Kelleher

Hi,

First time post on drools ... 

I installed Guvnor 5.3.0 on tomcat 6.0.35. When I used the default
(Jackrabbit) datastore all worked fine.

I next went about trying to change guvnor to use an external RDBMS (Oracle
10g) . I generated a new repository.xml . As per reference manual I used the
Repository Configuration Manager to generate a new repository.xml file.
However on startup with new repository.xml file, I get the following errors
( console, localhost & catalina).

Can anyone shed some light ? 

thanks in advance,
Kevin

## console - start ##
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.core.AprLifecycleListener init
INFO: The APR based Apache Tomcat Native library which allows optimal
performanc
e in production environments was not found on the java.library.path:
C:\Progra~2
\Java\JDK15~1.0_0\bin;.;C:\windows\system32;C:\windows;C:\oracle\product\10.2.0\
client_1\bin;C:\windows\system32;C:\windows;C:\windows\System32\Wbem;C:\windows\
System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI
Technologies\ATI.ACE
\Core-Static;C:\Progra~2\Java\JDK15~1.0_0\bin;C:\apache-ant-1.7.0\bin
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol init
INFO: Initializing Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina load
INFO: Initialization processed in 267 ms
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardService start
INFO: Starting service Catalina
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngine start
INFO: Starting Servlet Engine: Apache Tomcat/6.0.35
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDescriptor
INFO: Deploying configuration descriptor host-manager.xml
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDescriptor
INFO: Deploying configuration descriptor manager.xml
17-Feb-2012 17:14:20 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployWAR
INFO: Deploying web application archive guvnor.war
INFO  17-02 17:14:23,713 (RulesRepositoryConfigurator.java:getInstance:46)


 Creating an instance of the RulesRepositoryConfigurator.
17-Feb-2012 17:14:24 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start
SEVERE: Error listenerStart
17-Feb-2012 17:14:24 org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start
SEVERE: Context [/guvnor] startup failed due to previous errors
INFO  17-02 17:14:24,681 (LoggingHelper.java:info:49)Removing
listeners
Removing all listeners...
Listeners removed...
INFO  17-02 17:14:24,681 (LoggingHelper.java:info:49)Shutting down
repositor
y
INFO  17-02 17:14:24,681 (RulesRepositoryConfigurator.java:shutdown:172)
 SHUTDOWN RULES CONFIG
17-Feb-2012 17:14:24 org.apache.catalina.loader.WebappClassLoader
clearReference
sThreads
SEVERE: The web application [/guvnor] appears to have started a thread named
[Ti
mer-0] but has failed to stop it. This is very likely to create a memory
leak.
17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDirectory
INFO: Deploying web application directory docs
17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDirectory
INFO: Deploying web application directory examples
17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.catalina.startup.HostConfig deployDirectory
INFO: Deploying web application directory ROOT
17-Feb-2012 17:14:25 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol start
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor

2012-02-09 Thread Michael Anstis

Download the WAR most applicable to the web/application server on which you
wish to run it.

Install according to the web/application server on which you are deploying
it.

On Tomcat this, for me, is simply using the Manager Application to install
the Tomcat WAR.

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2012-02-09 Thread olfa

Hi,

how to install Guvnor?

thank you

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.1 in WAS 6.1 server

2012-01-18 Thread arup

Hi,
I'm not able to open this link to adjust guvnor settings. 

https://zuxho14:9045/ibm/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.ws.console.appmanagement/urun_rapp_classload.html

Looks like the site is not available now. Please share some alternative
link. or if u have the informations shared in this link please share it.

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.1 in WAS 6.1 server

2012-01-18 Thread arup

Thanks a lot Jervis Liu. I followed the link provided by u. But one of the
link(to adjust the Guvnor settings) is not working. please provide me some
info about this. I need to complete this task by 2day. anyone having
experiance in installing Guvnor in WAS 6.1 please help. 
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.1 in WAS 6.1 server

2012-01-18 Thread Jervis Liu

This is a bit out-of-date, not sure if it helps: 
https://community.jboss.org/wiki/DroolsGuvnor50Installation

Cheers,
Jervis

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[rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.1 in WAS 6.1 server

2012-01-18 Thread arup

Hi all,
 I'm new to Drools and facing some difficulties to run Guvnor in websphere
6.1 server. I'm not finding any specific doc or guideline that i can follow
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possible. please help. Thanks in advance...

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Re: [rules-users] Drools GUVNOR username "guest"

2011-12-27 Thread Cristiano Gavião


http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.2.0.Final/drools-guvnor-docs/html/ch16.html

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>
> By Default, it seems the drools GUVNOR username is taken as guest. I am not
> able to locate the place where the same has been mentioned. Need to modify
> the default credentials itself.
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> I would appreciate if someone could assist me with the same.
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2011-12-27 Thread starfish15

Hi,
 
By Default, it seems the drools GUVNOR username is taken as guest. I am not
able to locate the place where the same has been mentioned. Need to modify
the default credentials itself.

I would appreciate if someone could assist me with the same.

Thanks for the help in advance.

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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor API information?

2011-12-12 Thread srinivasasanda

Hi Vikas,

Could you suggest me where i can find that Sardine.jar and other jar files.

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Re: [rules-users] Drools guvnor issue

Thank u
ya surely ill share if im done with my task

Regards,
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Re: [rules-users] Drools guvnor issue

hehe, me and Tiho have had a chat and I was getting horribly mixed up. BPMN
is in the land of jBPM.

Best ignore what I've said about the code not being maintained - but feel
free to join Tiho and gang on #jbpm.

Guvnor stores the jBPM asset, and the problem will be to do with the object
not being refreshed.

2011/11/8 Tihomir Surdilovic 

>  On 11/8/11 6:40 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:
>
> If you develop a fix we'd obviously love to have you contribute it back
>
> Why not consider becoming the maintainer of the BPMN2 stuff? :)
>
> The integration of jBPM into Guvnor is heavily tied to development that is
> done within the jBPM project. I am really not sure what Michael means here
> by "becoming the maintainer of the BPMN2 stuff",  but of course anyone is
> more than welcome to contribute. Catch us on #jbpm and the jbpm mailing
> lists also if you wish to do that.
> Thanks.
>
>
> On 8 November 2011 11:36, ANJALI  wrote:
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>> Thanks a lot for ur info
>> ill try to change the code
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Re: [rules-users] Drools guvnor issue

2011-11-08 Thread Tihomir Surdilovic


On 11/8/11 6:40 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:
If you develop a fix we'd obviously love to have you contribute it 
back


Why not consider becoming the maintainer of the BPMN2 stuff? :)
The integration of jBPM into Guvnor is heavily tied to development that 
is done within the jBPM project. I am really not sure what Michael means 
here by "becoming the maintainer of the BPMN2 stuff",  but of course 
anyone is more than welcome to contribute. Catch us on #jbpm and the 
jbpm mailing lists also if you wish to do that.

Thanks.


On 8 November 2011 11:36, ANJALI > wrote:


Thanks a lot for ur info
ill try to change the code



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Re: [rules-users] Drools guvnor issue

A Guvnor JIRA.

2011/11/8 Tihomir Surdilovic 

>  On 11/8/11 6:59 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:
>
> Yes, I know that :)
>
> However, in the grand scheme of open JIRAs and (I assume) the importance
> to the OP of having this fixed as soon as possible them looking themselves
> might be the quickest option. Many, many other asset types stored in Guvnor
> work fine - however it is obvious the screens re-load, thus refreshing the
> asset object, following a save and check-in.
>
> Whatever mechanism is in place for BPMN2 Assets is not working quite the
> way it should.
>
> It works the exact same way as any other assets in Guvnor. To Guvnor a
> .bpmn2 asset is the same as a .drl, or a .dsl, etc. Could be that if using
> the standalone editor servlet the user should place the generated content
> inside of an iframe would allow for an automatic refresh of the iframe
> content after a save operation..but again this has nothing to do with the
> actual actual editor that creates the content, but with how Guvnor handles
> storing of assets.
>
>  I did suggest a JIRA could be raised, but we're not likely to look at it
> any time soon.
>
> If your assumption from the beginning is that this is an issue only with
> storing of bpmn2 assets should the user create a guvnor or a jbpm jira?
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Mike
>
> 2011/11/8 Tihomir Surdilovic 
>
>>  The jBPM Web Designer does not store any assets itself, but delegates to
>> Guvnor to store them, as such I think you cannot just say "go figure out
>> some code which could be broken" but look at possible Guvnor issue here. A
>> test scenario would be nice to have that can reproduce the issue, as well
>> as trying to do this with other assets not just BPMN2 processes. I assume
>> you are storing your assets embedded into your app via the standalone
>> servlet, which _is_ Guvnor code ;)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 11/8/11 6:20 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:
>>
>> Great.
>>
>> So your options are: raise a JIRA we will look at at some time, or have a
>> look in the code yourself :)
>>
>> The problem is as I surmised; when saving the object representing the
>> BPMN2 process it needs to be re-loaded\refreshed so subsequent optimistic
>> lock checks succeed.
>>
>> On 8 November 2011 11:16, ANJALI  wrote:
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>>> If i use close/re-open everything is fine
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Re: [rules-users] Drools guvnor issue

2011-11-08 Thread Tihomir Surdilovic


On 11/8/11 6:59 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:

Yes, I know that :)

However, in the grand scheme of open JIRAs and (I assume) the 
importance to the OP of having this fixed as soon as possible them 
looking themselves might be the quickest option. Many, many other 
asset types stored in Guvnor work fine - however it is obvious the 
screens re-load, thus refreshing the asset object, following a save 
and check-in. 
Whatever mechanism is in place for BPMN2 Assets is not working quite 
the way it should.
It works the exact same way as any other assets in Guvnor. To Guvnor a 
.bpmn2 asset is the same as a .drl, or a .dsl, etc. Could be that if 
using the standalone editor servlet the user should place the generated 
content inside of an iframe would allow for an automatic refresh of the 
iframe content after a save operation..but again this has nothing to do 
with the actual actual editor that creates the content, but with how 
Guvnor handles storing of assets.
I did suggest a JIRA could be raised, but we're not likely to look at 
it any time soon.
If your assumption from the beginning is that this is an issue only with 
storing of bpmn2 assets should the user create a guvnor or a jbpm jira?


With kind regards,

Mike

2011/11/8 Tihomir Surdilovic >


The jBPM Web Designer does not store any assets itself, but
delegates to Guvnor to store them, as such I think you cannot just
say "go figure out some code which could be broken" but look at
possible Guvnor issue here. A test scenario would be nice to have
that can reproduce the issue, as well as trying to do this with
other assets not just BPMN2 processes. I assume you are storing
your assets embedded into your app via the standalone servlet,
which _is_ Guvnor code ;)

Thanks.

On 11/8/11 6:20 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:

Great.

So your options are: raise a JIRA we will look at at some time,
or have a look in the code yourself :)

The problem is as I surmised; when saving the object representing
the BPMN2 process it needs to be re-loaded\refreshed so
subsequent optimistic lock checks succeed.

On 8 November 2011 11:16, ANJALI mailto:swathi.2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If i use close/re-open everything is fine

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Yes, I know that :)

However, in the grand scheme of open JIRAs and (I assume) the importance to
the OP of having this fixed as soon as possible them looking themselves
might be the quickest option. Many, many other asset types stored in Guvnor
work fine - however it is obvious the screens re-load, thus refreshing the
asset object, following a save and check-in. Whatever mechanism is in place
for BPMN2 Assets is not working quite the way it should. I did suggest a
JIRA could be raised, but we're not likely to look at it any time soon.

With kind regards,

Mike

2011/11/8 Tihomir Surdilovic 

>  The jBPM Web Designer does not store any assets itself, but delegates to
> Guvnor to store them, as such I think you cannot just say "go figure out
> some code which could be broken" but look at possible Guvnor issue here. A
> test scenario would be nice to have that can reproduce the issue, as well
> as trying to do this with other assets not just BPMN2 processes. I assume
> you are storing your assets embedded into your app via the standalone
> servlet, which _is_ Guvnor code ;)
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 11/8/11 6:20 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:
>
> Great.
>
> So your options are: raise a JIRA we will look at at some time, or have a
> look in the code yourself :)
>
> The problem is as I surmised; when saving the object representing the
> BPMN2 process it needs to be re-loaded\refreshed so subsequent optimistic
> lock checks succeed.
>
> On 8 November 2011 11:16, ANJALI  wrote:
>
>> If i use close/re-open everything is fine
>>
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Re: [rules-users] Drools guvnor issue

2011-11-08 Thread Tihomir Surdilovic

The jBPM Web Designer does not store any assets itself, but delegates to 
Guvnor to store them, as such I think you cannot just say "go figure out 
some code which could be broken" but look at possible Guvnor issue here. 
A test scenario would be nice to have that can reproduce the issue, as 
well as trying to do this with other assets not just BPMN2 processes. I 
assume you are storing your assets embedded into your app via the 
standalone servlet, which _is_ Guvnor code ;)


Thanks.
On 11/8/11 6:20 AM, Michael Anstis wrote:

Great.

So your options are: raise a JIRA we will look at at some time, or 
have a look in the code yourself :)


The problem is as I surmised; when saving the object representing the 
BPMN2 process it needs to be re-loaded\refreshed so subsequent 
optimistic lock checks succeed.


On 8 November 2011 11:16, ANJALI > wrote:


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If you develop a fix we'd obviously love to have you contribute it back

Why not consider becoming the maintainer of the BPMN2 stuff? :)

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Great.

So your options are: raise a JIRA we will look at at some time, or have a
look in the code yourself :)

The problem is as I surmised; when saving the object representing the BPMN2
process it needs to be re-loaded\refreshed so subsequent optimistic lock
checks succeed.

On 8 November 2011 11:16, ANJALI  wrote:

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Re: [rules-users] Drools guvnor issue

Can you confirm if you *close* and *re-open* you are able to *save* again?

This would confirm that (somehow) the asset needs to be programmatically
re-opened.

Not knowing the BPMN2 editor code-base, you might need to look into it and
fix a bug.

You could raise a JIRA too, but there's no promise that it'd get fixed by
us any time soon.

On 8 November 2011 09:41, ANJALI  wrote:

> thanks for ur response
>
> as i said u earlier i have integrated drools into my application
> im getting *save all changes* and *close* option only so,i dnt have scope
> to
> reload my page
> is there any other alternate?
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> Thanks in advance,
> Anjali
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