Re: [sage-devel] Oooold tickets

2016-01-04 Thread Nathann Cohen
> There is even 8 tickets older than one year waiting for review.
>
> I don't know if they are a problem or not. They will make harder to find
> "real" todo-lists -- but then, who is going to go throught wishlists in any
> case?

I also occasionally go through old tickets, complaining internally
about forgotten ones, but I have found no magic to deal with them.

Sage is very wide, and I don't understand half of the code -- the best
I ever aimed for was to do something for those of the tickets I
actually understood. If you get what is inside then try to reiew it,
and if you know someone who could send him an email, asking for his
help and hoping that something will happen.

If those who can do the job are aware of it, well, there isn't much
more that can be done :-/

Nathann

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-04 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:21 AM, kcrisman  wrote:

> Thank you Jonathan for clarifying what I thought was obvious in what I was
> saying.
>
>
>> > As stated, that would break the compatibility with SMC magics that
>> William
>> > just declared intangible (and always "cell magic").
>>
>> Just to be clear:  I  don't care whether or not whatever design you
>> guys are coming up with in this thread is compatible with SMC Sage
>> worksheets.  SMC provides both Sage worksheets and Jupyter notebooks
>> on an equal footing; each has its pros and cons, and will continue to
>> be fully supported (likely with a converter between them, that at
>> least converts what can be converted).
>>
>>
> I would be interested in why SMC provides Sage worksheets if Jupyter is so
> *clearly* the most superior option.  [Rhetorical question]
>

Weird question, given that I literally just wrote "Sage worksheets and
Jupyter notebooks on an equal footing; each has its pros and cons, and will
continue to be fully supported". There are many ways in which Sage
worksheets are superior to Jupyter notebooks, and some very nontrivial
subtle new things I've been working on the last month that will lead to
more...


>
> And what of the long-term in Sage itself - would an eventual "SMC personal
> edition" become the default?  [Not rhetorical but probably too far in the
> future to speculate]
>

No clue.  There's no legal or technical reason it couldn't happen... This
year it likely won't as SMC is still changing way too much.

 -- William


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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Jupyter notebook by default?

2016-01-04 Thread kcrisman
Thank you Jonathan for clarifying what I thought was obvious in what I was 
saying.
 

> > As stated, that would break the compatibility with SMC magics that 
> William 
> > just declared intangible (and always "cell magic"). 
>
> Just to be clear:  I  don't care whether or not whatever design you 
> guys are coming up with in this thread is compatible with SMC Sage 
> worksheets.  SMC provides both Sage worksheets and Jupyter notebooks 
> on an equal footing; each has its pros and cons, and will continue to 
> be fully supported (likely with a converter between them, that at 
> least converts what can be converted). 
>
>  
I would be interested in why SMC provides Sage worksheets if Jupyter is so 
*clearly* the most superior option.  [Rhetorical question]

And what of the long-term in Sage itself - would an eventual "SMC personal 
edition" become the default?  [Not rhetorical but probably too far in the 
future to speculate]

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Re: [sage-devel] Oooold tickets

2016-01-04 Thread Jori Mäntysalo

On Mon, 4 Jan 2016, Daniel Krenn wrote:

what is the plan for/status of - - The last activity there is 10 (and 7) 
month ago.


It is not at all uncommon for a ticket to be forgotten. At 
http://trac.sagemath.org/report/58 you will see a big list of those. As a 
trivial example, two weeks ago I suggested closing 
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/10783 that had last modification five 
years ago.


There is even 8 tickets older than one year waiting for review.

I don't know if they are a problem or not. They will make harder to find 
"real" todo-lists -- but then, who is going to go throught wishlists in 
any case?


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Re: [sage-devel] lazy list tickets

2016-01-04 Thread Daniel Krenn
On 2016-01-04 18:14, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>> what is the plan for/status of http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16137
>> (and related tickets, e.g.
>> http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16107 ) ?
>> The last activity there is 10 (and 7) month ago.
> 
> The technical terminology is "forgotten".

:)

> Why don't you ask on the tickets directly, so that the guys in Cc
> receive an email?

There are a couple of these tickets, so I decided to ask here. However,
I will do it on the ticket #16137 now.

Daniel

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Re: [sage-devel] lazy list tickets

2016-01-04 Thread Nathann Cohen
> what is the plan for/status of http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16137
> (and related tickets, e.g.
> http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16107 ) ?
> The last activity there is 10 (and 7) month ago.

The technical terminology is "forgotten".

Why don't you ask on the tickets directly, so that the guys in Cc
receive an email?

Nathann

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[sage-devel] lazy list tickets

2016-01-04 Thread Daniel Krenn
Dear all,

what is the plan for/status of http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16137
(and related tickets, e.g.
http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16107 ) ?
The last activity there is 10 (and 7) month ago.

Best, Daniel

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[sage-devel] Re: patchbot hera-optiplex

2016-01-04 Thread Eric Gourgoulhon
Hi,

I confirm that the patchbot hera-OptiPlex-7010 misbehaves: it 
systematically returns "build failed" with the message

The content of "/home/hera/sage-patchbot/build/pkgs/r_jupyter/type" must be 
'base', 'standard', 'optional', 'experimental' or 'pip'
Apply -- 4 seconds
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/hera/sage-patchbot/local/bin/patchbot/patchbot.py", line 940, in 
test_a_ticket
do_or_die('./configure')
  File "/home/hera/sage-patchbot/local/bin/patchbot/util.py", line 182, in 
do_or_die
raise exn_class("{} {}".format(res, cmd))
Exception: 256 ./configure
in the manifolds tickets, see e.g.
http://patchbot.sagemath.org/ticket/18529/

Eric.


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