[sage-devel] sage-8.4.rc0

[aishen]

It compiles fine on AMD 8 cores 16 Go ubuntu cosmic (18.10 coming one)
Henri

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[sage-devel] SM_Carter-Penrose_diag.ipynb

[aishen]

Hi,
I don't remenber if it's in this  mailing list for SM , if not sorry :)

the 24 input :X_SD_IV. = M_IV.chart(r't r:(0,2*m) 
th:(0,pi):\theta ph:(0,2*pi):\phi')
X_SD_IV

gives me this error ?

ValueError: Assumption is inconsistent
I am with sagemath 8.3 rc1 and I just noticed I can use 8.2 and bingo there is 
no error in it, well as it's devel maybe you know about it ?

Thanks
Henri

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[sage-devel] sagemath 8.3 rc0

[aishen]

Hi, 
I couldn't compile previous version, always some errors. But this rc0 
passed without any problems !

ubuntu xenial AMD 64 8 x 16 Go RAM.

Regards
Henri

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[sage-devel] Re: sage compilation crash and stop the pc

[aishen]

I will try make -j1 I am not in hurry
I have enaugh hdd 200 Go free

Le dimanche 21 janvier 2018 09:58:41 UTC+1, aishen a écrit :
>
> Hi, 
>
> I used to compiled sage till version 7.0, but now it crashes and halt pc 
> at about the compilation of doc (but I think with the last 8.2 beta 3 it 
> was before because sage doesn't run). I have an AMD 8core and 16 Go RAM 
> ssd 250 Go) ubuntu 17.10 (and 18.04). I guess I haven't enaugh RAM now ? 
>
> Would it be possible to have a binary somewhere so that it could be tested 
> ? 
>
> Regards 
>
> Henri 
>
>
>

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[sage-devel] sagenb hidden

[aishen]

Hi,
In sagenb one can hide list of command to make a result, I can't do that in 
jupyter notebook is there a way ?
I do geometry examples with sagemath, sure I could use other software but I 
prefer use sagemath because by hand I can notice lot of interesting 
construction. Another thing I would like is thickness in gridlines
Regards
Henri
An example not finish 

g=(sqrt(1-x^2))
x=x
z=plot(x,0,1,aspect_ratio=1);
p=plot(g,-1,1,aspect_ratio=1,color="red");
q=plot(-g,-1,1,aspect_ratio=1,color="red");
A = text("A", (-2.99,-0.3), color="black", fontsize=14,rotation=0)
B = text("B", (-3,5.2), color="black", fontsize=14,rotation=0)
C = text("C", (2.2,5.2), color="black", fontsize=14,rotation=0)
E = text("E", (5,5.2), color="black", fontsize=14,rotation=0)
D = text("D", (2,-0.3), color="black", fontsize=14,rotation=0)
F = text("F", (5.01,-0.3), color="black", fontsize=14,rotation=0)
O = text("O", (-0.4,-0.3), color="black", fontsize=14,rotation=0)
a1= arc((-0.98,0), 5.9, angle=pi*4, sector=(0,pi*4),color="red",
thickness=1, zorder=5)
oc=line(((-0.5,0),(2,5)), color="blue",thickness=1.5)
l1=line(((0.57,0),(0.57,1)), color="red",thickness=1.5)
ab=line(((-2,-1),(-2,1)), color="blue",thickness=1.5)
bc=line(((-2,-1),(2,-1)), color="blue",thickness=1.5)
cd=line(((0.6,0),(0.6,0.8)), color="green",thickness=1.5)
dc=line(((1,0),(1,0.8)), color="red",thickness=1)
be=line(((-0.3,0.8),(1,0.8)), color="blue",thickness=1.5)
ad=line(((-2,1),(2,1)), color="blue",thickness=1.5)
ac=line(((-2,1),(2,-1)), color="red",thickness=1.5)
af=line(((-2,1),(0.886,-0.443)), color="cyan",thickness=1.5)
show(p+q+ab+ad+bc+ac+af+dc,
 xmin=-2,xmax=2,ymin=-2,ymax=2,
 gridlines="minor",gridlinesstyle=dict(color="grey",
 linestyle="-"),frame=True)

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[sage-devel] Re: Windows release

[aishen]

Thanks you very much for this release I was waiting for it to see how sage 
8 behaves on windows and linux
Best
Henri

Le vendredi 11 août 2017 10:28:59 UTC+2, Erik Bray a écrit :
>
> Earlier this week I finally had an opportunity to build a Windows 
> release for Sage 8.0 (which would have preferably been done before the 
> release announcement of 8.0 but things didn't work out 
> timing/communication-wise). 
>
> I uploaded the release binary to GitHub at: 
> https://github.com/sagemath/sage-windows/releases 
>
> Now the question is, how would I go about getting all the information 
> on sagemath.org updated, and ensuring that Windows builds are included 
> as part of the standard release process?  It would be nice to promote 
> this as the preferred way to run Sage on Windows, since for an average 
> user it should be the least hassle by far.  More advanced users might 
> still prefer other methods, which is fine too. 
>
> Thanks, 
> rik 
>

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[sage-devel] Re: pynac error

[aishen]

After installing lot of libs giac ...etc... And a fresh git I worked, 
Installed it on ubuntu 17.10 RAM 16Go Xcore 8, ssd 250 Go

Le dimanche 2 juillet 2017 16:46:53 UTC+2, aishen a écrit :
>
> Hi, 
> From a fresh ubuntu +1 (17.10) I got this error. Last week I compiled it 
> on an old sage-8 betaxx.
> Any help ?
>
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] configure: error: This package needs libfactory
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] make[3]: Entering directory 
> '/home/pi/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.8.p0/src'
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] make[3]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  
> Stop.
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] make[3]: Leaving directory 
> '/home/pi/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.8.p0/src'
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] Error building pynac.
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] 
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] real0m7.819s
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] user0m4.524s
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] sys0m1.164s
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] 
> 
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] Error installing package pynac-0.7.8.p0
> [pynac-0.7.8.p0] 
> 
>
> real0m9,082s
> user0m5,616s
> sys0m1,284s
> ***
> Error building Sage.
>
>
> ┌┐
> │ SageMath version 8.0.rc0, Release Date: 2017-06-29 │
> │ Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.│
> │ Type "help()" for help.│
> └┘
> ┏┓
> ┃ Warning: this is a prerelease version, and it may be unstable. ┃
> ┗┛
> Forcing sage-location, probably because a new package was installed.
> Updating various hardcoded paths...
> (Please wait at most a few minutes.)
> DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.
> Done updating paths.
>
> **
>
> Oops, Sage crashed. We do our best to make it stable, but...
>
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Is it possible to make an arm port of sage?

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Thanks... It fails after about 1 hour with gcc-5.4 not found...
Any way I would have stop before.
I installed it on hptouchpad from google play

Le dimanche 2 juillet 2017 15:07:54 UTC+2, Pavel Sayekat a écrit :
>
> Is it possible to make an arm port of sage like Raspberry PI?
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Is it possible to make an arm port of sage?

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Iam compiling it on armbian on orange pi zero, after 20 minutes it 's still 
compiling we will see...

Le dimanche 2 juillet 2017 15:07:54 UTC+2, Pavel Sayekat a écrit :
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> Is it possible to make an arm port of sage like Raspberry PI?
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Is it possible to make an arm port of sage?

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or orange pi zero with armbian ?
I will have a look if it's not already in repo

Le dimanche 2 juillet 2017 15:07:54 UTC+2, Pavel Sayekat a écrit :
>
> Is it possible to make an arm port of sage like Raspberry PI?
>

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[sage-devel] pynac error

[aishen]

Hi, 
From a fresh ubuntu +1 (17.10) I got this error. Last week I compiled it on 
an old sage-8 betaxx.
Any help ?

[pynac-0.7.8.p0] configure: error: This package needs libfactory
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] make[3]: Entering directory 
'/home/pi/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.8.p0/src'
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] make[3]: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  
Stop.
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] make[3]: Leaving directory 
'/home/pi/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/pynac-0.7.8.p0/src'
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] Error building pynac.
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] 
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] real0m7.819s
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] user0m4.524s
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] sys0m1.164s
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] 

[pynac-0.7.8.p0] Error installing package pynac-0.7.8.p0
[pynac-0.7.8.p0] 


real0m9,082s
user0m5,616s
sys0m1,284s
***
Error building Sage.


┌┐
│ SageMath version 8.0.rc0, Release Date: 2017-06-29 │
│ Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.│
│ Type "help()" for help.│
└┘
┏┓
┃ Warning: this is a prerelease version, and it may be unstable. ┃
┗┛
Forcing sage-location, probably because a new package was installed.
Updating various hardcoded paths...
(Please wait at most a few minutes.)
DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.
Done updating paths.

**

Oops, Sage crashed. We do our best to make it stable, but...

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[sage-devel] Re: K3D 3-D interactive plots in Jupyter look really good (IMHO)!...

[aishen]

HI,
I am trying to make it work in sagemath and python but it failed saying no 
requirejs can you help because I don't understand how to install it. k3d is 
easy to install with pip but I didn't find any pip for requirejs
regards
Henri

Le dimanche 28 août 2016 17:42:04 UTC+2, Jonathan a écrit :
>
> Just wanted to say kudos to the people working on K3D for 3D interactive 
> plotting in the Jupyter notebook.  It looks really good! 
>
> See the wiki 
>
> K3D-jupyter 3D visualisation in jupyter notebook 
>  (in the section "Demonstrations of 
> Graphical Capabilities") 
>
> Jonathan Gutow (helped with Jmol/JSmol in the old sagenotebook) 
>
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Sage 7.5 for Windows?

[aishen]

Thanks for your installer, I rarely works on w10 but recently I wanted to 
show sage to a friend who has only windows.
I am installing it on my wife's pc, I wonder if jupyter can be used at the 
moment ?
Trying it 
Regards
Henri

Le vendredi 17 mars 2017 10:49:14 UTC+1, Eric Gourgoulhon a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> On ask.sagemath.org, users keep asking for Sage 7.5 for Windows:
> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/36964/version-751-for-windows/
>
> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/36601/where-can-i-find-a-windows-binary-for-sage-75-or-751/
> Indeed, the latest ova file on the servers is 7.4. 
> I understand that a Windows installer is under preparation. Is this the 
> reason why no ova file is available for 7.5?
> What could be answered to these users?
> Thanks for your help. 
>
> Eric. 
>

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[sage-devel] sage-8.0 beta and python3

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Hi, 
Is sage dev using python3? while compiling I see references to it ?
regards
Henri

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[sage-devel] crash after compiling sagemanifolds sage 7.3 (ppa aims)

[aishen]

New ubuntu 16.04 fresh install. I got it already on last week on an old 
xenial.
What do I do ? Forgetting about sagemanifolds ?
Or get the sagemath binary which works ?
I would like to keep the deb because it updating automatically
Thanks for your help
Best
Henri
real41m33.940s
user40m36.776s
sys1m0.760s

Installation of SageManifolds 0.9.1 completed!

pi@pc:/usr/lib/sagemath$ sage
┌┐
│ SageMath version 7.3, Release Date: 2016-08-04 │
│ Type "notebook()" for the browser-based notebook interface.│
│ Type "help()" for help.│
└┘

**

Oops, Sage crashed. We do our best to make it stable, but...

A crash report was automatically generated with the following information:
  - A verbatim copy of the crash traceback.
  - A copy of your input history during this session.
  - Data on your current Sage configuration.

It was left in the file named:
'/home/pi/.sage/ipython_genutils-0.1.0/Sage_crash_report.txt'
If you can email this file to the developers, the information in it will 
help
them in understanding and correcting the problem.

You can mail it to: sage-support at sage-supp...@googlegroups.com
with the subject 'Sage Crash Report'.

If you want to do it now, the following command will work (under Unix):
mail -s 'Sage Crash Report' sage-supp...@googlegroups.com < 
/home/pi/.sage/ipython_genutils-0.1.0/Sage_crash_report.txt

To ensure accurate tracking of this issue, please file a report about it at:
http://trac.sagemath.org

Hit  to quit (your terminal may close):
pi@pc:/usr/lib/sagemath$ 

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[sage-devel] For few days this link doesn't work ?

[aishen]

Hi,

Is there any problem of connection, or is it only me ?

I can't connect to SM,

Best 

Henri


SageManifolds: home 


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[sage-devel] Re: [Yet again] Sage's R vs system's R

[aishen]

There is a SAGE accounting with is very interfering if you don't write 
sagemath in a research !

Le samedi 20 août 2016 16:09:20 UTC+2, Emmanuel Charpentier a écrit :
>
> While trying my hand  at porting 
> R 3.3.1 to Sage (needs_review, by the way), I found this in the current R 
> Installation and Administration manual 
>  :
>
> > C.8 Cygwin
> > 
> > The 32-bit version has never worked well enough to pass R’s make check, 
> and residual support from
> > earlier experiments was removed in R 3.3.0.
> > 
> > The 64-bit version is completely unsupported.
>
> Maybe we should consider to have an interface to system's R rather than 
> our own version (and therefore make it an optional package)
>
> It would be more difficult (but not impossible) to offer the same kind of 
> access to an external R as to a tightly-knit R. I'm thinking graphics, 
> notebook(s) integration, etc...
>
> OTOH, the existence of a good R interface (Rpy2) could make things easier. 
> The largest problem that one can forecast is, of course, backwards 
> compatibility in existing programs.
>
>
> On the third hand, what can be said if the future of a native Windows port 
> of Sage, which could do without Cygwin monkeying ? I understand that a) 
> it's not really easy and b) some significant advances have been made 
> recently...
>
> Ideas, suggestions, etc ?
>

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[sage-devel] Re: sagemanifolds error

[aishen]

Solve 

I took the linux binary 16.04 and in local I bash sm-install 
Everything is working fine now.
thanks
Henri
Le samedi 21 mai 2016 16:30:14 UTC+2, aishen a écrit :
>
> Hi,
> I am on ubuntu 16.10 (16.04 +1), and I can't compile sage 7.2 (flint error)
> Si I install ppa version 7.1 and 
> sudo bash sm-install.sh everythink went well. Typing this in a console or in 
> sage -n=jupyter get the following ?
> Any help
> Thanks
> Henri
>
> M = Manifold(4, 'M')
>
> print M
>
> ---NotImplementedError
>Traceback (most recent call 
> last) in ()> 1 M = 
> Manifold(Integer(4), 'M')  2 print M
> /usr/lib/sagemath/src/sage/misc/lazy_import.pyx in 
> sage.misc.lazy_import.LazyImport.__call__ 
> (/usr/lib/sagemath//src/build/cythonized/sage/misc/lazy_import.c:3560)()
> 384 True385 """--> 386 return 
> self._get_object()(*args, **kwds)387 388 def __repr__(self):
> /usr/lib/sagemath/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/manifolds/manifold.py
>  in Manifold(dim, name, latex_name, field, structure, start_index, 
> **extra_kwds)   1653 else:   1654 raise 
> NotImplementedError("manifolds of type {} are not ".format(structure) +-> 
> 1655   "implemented")   1656 return 
> TopologicalManifold(dim, name, field, structure,   1657   
>  latex_name=latex_name, start_index=start_index,
> NotImplementedError: manifolds of type smooth are not implemented
>
>
>

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[sage-devel] Re: sagemanifolds error

[aishen]

It's getting worse... ppa sage is seg fault and I can't compile 7.2 because 
flint error, I wonder if I downgrade to 16.04 but I don't think that 's the 
problem.
At the moment I don't have sage any more. I purge all and I will try to 
restore that !
Thanks
Henri


Le samedi 21 mai 2016 16:30:14 UTC+2, aishen a écrit :
>
> Hi,
> I am on ubuntu 16.10 (16.04 +1), and I can't compile sage 7.2 (flint error)
> Si I install ppa version 7.1 and 
> sudo bash sm-install.sh everythink went well. Typing this in a console or in 
> sage -n=jupyter get the following ?
> Any help
> Thanks
> Henri
>
> M = Manifold(4, 'M')
>
> print M
>
> ---NotImplementedError
>Traceback (most recent call 
> last) in ()> 1 M = 
> Manifold(Integer(4), 'M')  2 print M
> /usr/lib/sagemath/src/sage/misc/lazy_import.pyx in 
> sage.misc.lazy_import.LazyImport.__call__ 
> (/usr/lib/sagemath//src/build/cythonized/sage/misc/lazy_import.c:3560)()
> 384 True385 """--> 386 return 
> self._get_object()(*args, **kwds)387 388 def __repr__(self):
> /usr/lib/sagemath/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/manifolds/manifold.py
>  in Manifold(dim, name, latex_name, field, structure, start_index, 
> **extra_kwds)   1653 else:   1654 raise 
> NotImplementedError("manifolds of type {} are not ".format(structure) +-> 
> 1655   "implemented")   1656 return 
> TopologicalManifold(dim, name, field, structure,   1657   
>  latex_name=latex_name, start_index=start_index,
> NotImplementedError: manifolds of type smooth are not implemented
>
>
>

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[sage-devel] sagemanifolds error

[aishen]

Hi,
I am on ubuntu 16.10 (16.04 +1), and I can't compile sage 7.2 (flint error)
Si I install ppa version 7.1 and 
sudo bash sm-install.sh everythink went well. Typing this in a console or in 
sage -n=jupyter get the following ?
Any help
Thanks
Henri

M = Manifold(4, 'M')

print M

---NotImplementedError
   Traceback (most recent call 
last) in ()> 1 M = 
Manifold(Integer(4), 'M')  2 print M
/usr/lib/sagemath/src/sage/misc/lazy_import.pyx in 
sage.misc.lazy_import.LazyImport.__call__ 
(/usr/lib/sagemath//src/build/cythonized/sage/misc/lazy_import.c:3560)()384 
True385 """--> 386 return 
self._get_object()(*args, **kwds)387 388 def __repr__(self):
/usr/lib/sagemath/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/manifolds/manifold.py 
in Manifold(dim, name, latex_name, field, structure, start_index, **extra_kwds) 
  1653 else:   1654 raise NotImplementedError("manifolds of type {} 
are not ".format(structure) +-> 1655   
"implemented")   1656 return TopologicalManifold(dim, name, field, 
structure,   1657latex_name=latex_name, 
start_index=start_index,
NotImplementedError: manifolds of type smooth are not implemented


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[sage-devel] Re: SageMath for Windows installer

[aishen]

Unfortunatly it doesn't work on an intel core II pentium I have, it says it 
can't do virtualization...

Le mercredi 23 mars 2016 12:15:58 UTC+1, Erik Bray a écrit :
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I've been working for a few weeks on an installer for Sage on Windows, 
> which takes advantage of Docker to accomplish this.*  The goal of this 
> project is to make it possible to run Sage on Windows with as much 
> transparency as possible, such that the user isn't really aware that 
> there is any virtualization involved.  As you can read in my report 
> for the OpenDreamKit project on Docker containers [1] there are limits 
> to this. 
>
> However, in the ideal case a user simply downloads and runs an 
> executable--clicks through a graphical install wizard, and then gets a 
> desktop icon which launches a Jupyter notebook (with sage and terminal 
> support) in their default web browser.  Although there are still a few 
> rough edges [2] the alpha version of the Sage for Windows installer 
> that I have for you today does just that: 
>
>
> https://github.com/embray/sage-windows/releases/download/v1a1/SageMath-7.0-1a1-fat.exe
>  
>
> My hope is for this to eventually be adopted into the SageMath project 
> as the "official" distribution for Windows, replacing the existing 
> VM-based solution as I believe that this gives an overall 
> lighter-weight and more transparently "native" user experience.  In 
> the future the same approach could also be adopted--I think--to 
> provide a "local" installation of SMC. 
>
> Now, if anyone with access to a Windows machine (Windows 7 or newer), 
> it would be a big favor if I could get a few testers to bang this 
> around a bit and see what breaks and what works and what could be 
> improved. 
>
> To be clear, right now it only supports running the notebook, though 
> I'm also working on making it possible to run `sage` at a Windows 
> command prompt (almost working).  Also be aware if you try to test 
> this: The biggest limitation for now (as described also in [1]) is 
> that for Docker on Windows hardware virtualization support is required 
> to be enabled.  If this is not enabled the most likely outcome is that 
> the installer will fail with an error message like "Could not start 
> Docker VM". In this case you will have to grub around in your BIOS 
> settings to find hardware assisted virtualization support--this of 
> course is going to be the most difficult aspect of making this 
> available to "average" users.  A workaround may be possible but I'm 
> not sure yet. 
>
> Be aware also that the installer can take a few minutes to run (as 
> much as 5 minutes even on a reasonably fast machine) mostly due to it 
> being highly compressed. 
>
> Anyways, I look forward to your questions and feedback! 
>
> Thanks, 
> Erik 
>
>
> * I'm aware of the irony that I only just recently chided someone on 
> this list for appearing dismissive of working on native Windows 
> support for sage, while at the same time promoting a VM based solution 
> for Windows :)  Nonetheless I intend this only to be a temporary 
> solution, albeit a nicer solution than currently exists for Windows. 
>
> [1] 
> https://github.com/OpenDreamKit/OpenDreamKit/wiki/D3.1-Virtual-images-and-containers#sagemath
>  
> [2] https://github.com/embray/sage-windows/issues 
>

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[sage-devel] Re: SageMath for Windows installer

[aishen]

Very good idea :)
Late for me because I don't want to use w10 anymore but maybe I can find a 
computer on my stock ! lol
I really want to try and see that !
Excellent job,
Henri
Le mercredi 23 mars 2016 12:15:58 UTC+1, Erik Bray a écrit :
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I've been working for a few weeks on an installer for Sage on Windows, 
> which takes advantage of Docker to accomplish this.*  The goal of this 
> project is to make it possible to run Sage on Windows with as much 
> transparency as possible, such that the user isn't really aware that 
> there is any virtualization involved.  As you can read in my report 
> for the OpenDreamKit project on Docker containers [1] there are limits 
> to this. 
>
> However, in the ideal case a user simply downloads and runs an 
> executable--clicks through a graphical install wizard, and then gets a 
> desktop icon which launches a Jupyter notebook (with sage and terminal 
> support) in their default web browser.  Although there are still a few 
> rough edges [2] the alpha version of the Sage for Windows installer 
> that I have for you today does just that: 
>
>
> https://github.com/embray/sage-windows/releases/download/v1a1/SageMath-7.0-1a1-fat.exe
>  
>
> My hope is for this to eventually be adopted into the SageMath project 
> as the "official" distribution for Windows, replacing the existing 
> VM-based solution as I believe that this gives an overall 
> lighter-weight and more transparently "native" user experience.  In 
> the future the same approach could also be adopted--I think--to 
> provide a "local" installation of SMC. 
>
> Now, if anyone with access to a Windows machine (Windows 7 or newer), 
> it would be a big favor if I could get a few testers to bang this 
> around a bit and see what breaks and what works and what could be 
> improved. 
>
> To be clear, right now it only supports running the notebook, though 
> I'm also working on making it possible to run `sage` at a Windows 
> command prompt (almost working).  Also be aware if you try to test 
> this: The biggest limitation for now (as described also in [1]) is 
> that for Docker on Windows hardware virtualization support is required 
> to be enabled.  If this is not enabled the most likely outcome is that 
> the installer will fail with an error message like "Could not start 
> Docker VM". In this case you will have to grub around in your BIOS 
> settings to find hardware assisted virtualization support--this of 
> course is going to be the most difficult aspect of making this 
> available to "average" users.  A workaround may be possible but I'm 
> not sure yet. 
>
> Be aware also that the installer can take a few minutes to run (as 
> much as 5 minutes even on a reasonably fast machine) mostly due to it 
> being highly compressed. 
>
> Anyways, I look forward to your questions and feedback! 
>
> Thanks, 
> Erik 
>
>
> * I'm aware of the irony that I only just recently chided someone on 
> this list for appearing dismissive of working on native Windows 
> support for sage, while at the same time promoting a VM based solution 
> for Windows :)  Nonetheless I intend this only to be a temporary 
> solution, albeit a nicer solution than currently exists for Windows. 
>
> [1] 
> https://github.com/OpenDreamKit/OpenDreamKit/wiki/D3.1-Virtual-images-and-containers#sagemath
>  
> [2] https://github.com/embray/sage-windows/issues 
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Bye

[aishen]

I don't know you... But I have come to need SMC : I don't use windows !
I was very reluctant to use it because I don't like to work on internet. 
But it's such a great application and specially nowadays I can work with 
vpython and ivisual ! My wish for so many years and no more windaube ! (lol)
Sorry but my joy is great...
I tried to educate many young people (a group we call "disfavorised" in 
pschylogical term) for about 20 years and when I used electronic and 
computing ( year 88, in france that's was the very beginning) I saw an 
opportunity to help efficiently some youngs who liked this kind of things.
Open source is the best creation made by man...
Capitalism is the worse !
Enjoy yourself :)
Henri

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:47:54 PM UTC+1, Nathann Cohen wrote:
>
> Hello everybody, 
>
> I am disgusted by what this community has become. You are also tired 
> of seeing me complain here about a lot of things. 
>
> Have fun. 
>
> Nathann 
>

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