Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-09-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

On 09/ 1/10 02:19 AM, Alex Ghitza wrote:

On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:07:43 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" 
 wrote:

It's nice to know that running the tests 100 times and reporting the failures
managed to unearth a bug.


I'm not sure I would call this a bug, but it is definitely something
that's very easy to overlook, and hard to detect without running the
tests a large number of times.


Best,
Alex


Oh well, I'm disappointed then!

But in a way, the fact this test did call Maxima by mistake, means it generated 
two failures, which gives us more chance of finding the underlying cause for the 
busted maxima interface.


http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8772

From what it said on the trac ticket, it appears only to happen on parallel 
testing.


Though I don't know if anyone has run enough serial tests to be sure of this. I 
see the bug in 4% of cases in parallel parallel testing 100 times.


I did start testing 100 serial cases, in different directories, but I messed up 
and run out of swap space. I'll give that another go later.




Dave

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Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:11:50 -0700, Mike Hansen  wrote:
> I did that this morning, although apparently it was only enough to get
> the server back up and working -- not enough to upload files.  I
> removed some old logs and you should be able to upload patches again.
> I'll look into moving it to a spot with more room once I have some
> time.

OK, it now worked for me.


Best,
Alex


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Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:07:43 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" 
 wrote:
> It's nice to know that running the tests 100 times and reporting the failures 
> managed to unearth a bug.

I'm not sure I would call this a bug, but it is definitely something
that's very easy to overlook, and hard to detect without running the
tests a large number of times.


Best,
Alex

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Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Alex Ghitza

Hi Mike,

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:11:50 -0700, Mike Hansen  wrote:
> I did that this morning, although apparently it was only enough to get
> the server back up and working -- not enough to upload files.  I
> removed some old logs and you should be able to upload patches again.
> I'll look into moving it to a spot with more room once I have some
> time.

Thanks for looking into this.  I have tried again, and failed again with
the same error message:

 Trac detected an internal error:

OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device:
'/var/trac/sage_trac/attachments/ticket/9843/trac_9843.patch'


This particular patch is not very time-sensitive so I can wait :)


Best,
Alex


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Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Mike Hansen
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
 wrote:
> As you say, trac is down - it looks like /var is full on whatever machine
> runs the server. /var is often used for log files. Perhaps someone with root
> access on whatever machine it is could clean up /var.

I did that this morning, although apparently it was only enough to get
the server back up and working -- not enough to upload files.  I
removed some old logs and you should be able to upload patches again.
I'll look into moving it to a spot with more room once I have some
time.

--Mike

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Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

On 08/31/10 05:56 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

As some of you know, I run the long doctests 100 times on my Sun Ultra
27 on sage 4.5.3.alpha0.


I should have said it was on 4.5.3.alpha2.

The last of the 32-bit Solaris x86 / OpenSolaris fixes were merged in 
4.5.3.alpha2, so that's the first "release" of sage that passes all doc tests - 
some of the time at least!


Dave

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Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

On 08/31/10 11:13 PM, Alex Ghitza wrote:


On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:56:35 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" 
 wrote:

Looking at the results from 100 runs, there was one or more failures on 11 of
100 times. Of the 11 runs where one or more doctests failed, 4 of them


devel/sage-main/sage/modular/overconvergent/weightspace.py (twice)
devel/sage/sage/tests/benchmark.py (once)
devel/sage/sage/calculus/desolvers.py (once)

were caused by this bug

http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8772

discussed at

http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/3b43147e44324c25

It is marked as "critical", and has been open 4 months, but it seems to have got
no attention at all.

Perhaps someone who knows a bit about the pexpect/maxima interface might take a
look.


Unfortunately, I'm not one that knows enough about the Maxima interface
to fix this.  However, I do know that
modular/overconvergent/weightspace.py has no reason to use Maxima.
As soon as the trac server is working again, I'll have a patch for this
small issue up at

http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9843


Best,
Alex


It's nice to know that running the tests 100 times and reporting the failures 
managed to unearth a bug.


As you say, trac is down - it looks like /var is full on whatever machine runs 
the server. /var is often used for log files. Perhaps someone with root access 
on whatever machine it is could clean up /var.


Dave

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Re: [sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Alex Ghitza

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:56:35 +0100, "Dr. David Kirkby" 
 wrote:
> Looking at the results from 100 runs, there was one or more failures on 11 of 
> 100 times. Of the 11 runs where one or more doctests failed, 4 of them
> 
> 
> devel/sage-main/sage/modular/overconvergent/weightspace.py (twice)
> devel/sage/sage/tests/benchmark.py (once)
> devel/sage/sage/calculus/desolvers.py (once)
> 
> were caused by this bug
> 
> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8772
> 
> discussed at
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/3b43147e44324c25
> 
> It is marked as "critical", and has been open 4 months, but it seems to have 
> got 
> no attention at all.
> 
> Perhaps someone who knows a bit about the pexpect/maxima interface might take 
> a 
> look.

Unfortunately, I'm not one that knows enough about the Maxima interface
to fix this.  However, I do know that
modular/overconvergent/weightspace.py has no reason to use Maxima.
As soon as the trac server is working again, I'll have a patch for this
small issue up at 

http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9843


Best,
Alex

 


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[sage-devel] Busted maxima interface - anyone got a clue?

2010-08-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
As some of you know, I run the long doctests 100 times on my Sun Ultra 27 on 
sage 4.5.3.alpha0.


Looking at the results from 100 runs, there was one or more failures on 11 of 
100 times. Of the 11 runs where one or more doctests failed, 4 of them



devel/sage-main/sage/modular/overconvergent/weightspace.py (twice)
devel/sage/sage/tests/benchmark.py (once)
devel/sage/sage/calculus/desolvers.py (once)

were caused by this bug

http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/8772

discussed at

http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/3b43147e44324c25

It is marked as "critical", and has been open 4 months, but it seems to have got 
no attention at all.


Perhaps someone who knows a bit about the pexpect/maxima interface might take a 
look.


Dave

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