Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-06 Thread kcrisman


On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 5:13:28 AM UTC-5, Jori Mäntysalo wrote:
>
> On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: 
>
> > 1. The e-mail goes only to the author(s) of the ticket, not to all 
> people 
> > cc'ed in that ticket. 
>
> To all cc'ed people would not be too much, assuming we could have real 
> un-cc -possibility. But now you can not throw a comment and later get out 
> of ticket. 
>
> (For example: Say that you know nothing about the issue, but happen to see 
> that the patch contains something that breaks Sphinx.) 
>
>
Yeah, I agree that it would be bad to have auto-spam on needs_work, because 
that would just be an incentive for people to not set things as needs_work. 

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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Samuel Lelievre


2016-02-05 10:13:28 Z, Jori Mäntysalo:
>
> On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: 
>
> > 1. The e-mail goes only to the author(s) of the ticket, not to all 
> people 
> > cc'ed in that ticket. 
>
> To all cc'ed people would not be too much, assuming we could have real 
> un-cc -possibility. But now you can not throw a comment and later get out 
> of ticket. 
>
> (For example: Say that you know nothing about the issue, but happen to see 
> that the patch contains something that breaks Sphinx.) 
>

This is discussed at http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19832
where you can read:

Relevant upstream ticket: ​http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9971
The solution suggested in comment 14 there does not seem
to apply to Sage's trac, as no Notifications preferences are
present in the preference screen.

If anyone knows how to set this up in trac, that would be a relief.

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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-02-05 10:49, Nathann Cohen wrote:

I'll just add this thing on the heap on which I store
the ideas you oppose by requesting things I cannot do, with the
"Testing CPLEX/Maple/Matlab" and "spkg-src" tickets.


What did I request that you cannot do regarding "spkg-src"? I am still 
in favour of improving spkg-src.


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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Nathann Cohen
> There many useful trac reports which can be used instead of this, for
> example http://trac.sagemath.org/report/57 is what you want I guess.

This only works if everybody checks that page regularly, which is not
the case. Hell, even getting a message if a ticket in needs_work has
not been touched for *6 months* would avoid situations like this. And
it honestly couldn't be called 'spamming' at this rate.

Forgotten tickets are clearly wasted work ...

Nathann

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[sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody !

Because of another thread here, I noticed this ticket:

http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16871

It was in `positive_review` 14 months ago, was set back to
`needs_work` because of a (minor?) problem in the doc, and apparently
forgotten since.

I was just wondering if this situation was worth getting some script
running (I can give it a try): every week or so it would run, and if a
ticket has been in needs_work for more than a month with no comment on
it, the script would add a message on the trac ticket. Something like
"Hey guys, have you forgotten about me?".

What do you think ?

Nathann

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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-02-05 10:26, Nathann Cohen wrote:

There many useful trac reports which can be used instead of this, for
example http://trac.sagemath.org/report/57 is what you want I guess.


This only works if everybody checks that page regularly, which is not
the case. Hell, even getting a message if a ticket in needs_work has
not been touched for *6 months* would avoid situations like this.


Fine for me, provided that

1. The e-mail goes only to the author(s) of the ticket, not to all 
people cc'ed in that ticket.
2. The e-mail gets sent a finite number of times per ticket (say, once 
after 1 month and once after 6 months).


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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Fine for me, provided that
>
> 1. The e-mail goes only to the author(s) of the ticket, not to all people
> cc'ed in that ticket.
> 2. The e-mail gets sent a finite number of times per ticket (say, once after
> 1 month and once after 6 months).

I don't know how to guess a ticket's author, especially since it is
often not filled before a positive_review. Sending a message to the
ticket saying "have you forgotten me?" seemed the easiest way to go.

You know what ? I'll just add this thing on the heap on which I store
the ideas you oppose by requesting things I cannot do, with the
"Testing CPLEX/Maple/Matlab" and "spkg-src" tickets.

Forget it.

Nathann

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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Jori Mäntysalo

On Fri, 5 Feb 2016, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:

1. The e-mail goes only to the author(s) of the ticket, not to all people 
cc'ed in that ticket.


To all cc'ed people would not be too much, assuming we could have real 
un-cc -possibility. But now you can not throw a comment and later get out 
of ticket.


(For example: Say that you know nothing about the issue, but happen to see 
that the patch contains something that breaks Sphinx.)


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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2016-02-05 10:10, Nathann Cohen wrote:

I was just wondering if this situation was worth getting some script
running (I can give it a try): every week or so it would run, and if a
ticket has been in needs_work for more than a month with no comment on
it, the script would add a message on the trac ticket. Something like
"Hey guys, have you forgotten about me?".

What do you think ?


Personally, I do *not* want to get spammed like that.

There many useful trac reports which can be used instead of this, for 
example http://trac.sagemath.org/report/57 is what you want I guess.



Jeroen.

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Re: [sage-devel] Getting reminders for tickets in needs_work

2016-02-05 Thread Nathann Cohen
> What did I request that you cannot do regarding "spkg-src"? I am still in
> favour of improving spkg-src.

Oh, Right. It seems that I actually accepted all your requests on this
ticket. Crazy. Either way Volker will never let it pass, so let's give
this up.

Don't you want to do something with the Matlab/Maple ticket however ?

http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/18904

This is way more important, but I obviously cannot decide by myself
which versions of third-party softwares we support, and which doctests
can be run with which version of Maple/Matlab/whatever.

Nathann

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