[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
Thanks for all the discussion and hints about working with the left sidebar. I like Dima's suggestion of a 2-up mode. You'll notice we did not center the fixed-width text in the browser window. We are reserving the real-estate on the right for some generally useful purpose, though we have not decided yet what that will be. We will revisit all this once we get some support again for some serious CSS/Javascript development. On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 1:56:55 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: besides being a distraction, the sidebar is a waste of screen space. On a 13 laptop screen I could comfortably view two pages of this side by side. (this might be another suggestion for the design - make such a layout possible.) On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:39:36 UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: You could zoom in (control plus) the browser window, which should be equivalent for testing purposes. That's what we ended up telling my students. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
I particularly like the menu on the left hand side (more than the amount that I particularly like the website). That's not to say I disagree with Dima. The menu could slide in and out on mouseover. One general comment I have about the site is that on first impression it looks slightly square and blocky. A couple of rounded corners somewhere could improve the look a bit. On Saturday, 8 August 2015 19:33:25 UTC+2, Rob Beezer wrote: Thanks for all the discussion and hints about working with the left sidebar. I like Dima's suggestion of a 2-up mode. You'll notice we did not center the fixed-width text in the browser window. We are reserving the real-estate on the right for some generally useful purpose, though we have not decided yet what that will be. Advertising mathematics books that might be of use to students, for example. But you could offer two page mode as an option, which when selected makes ads (or whatever other useful purpose you put the real estate to) go away. Something I read recently is that studies have shown that text that is easiest to read is 10-12 words across a line. One problem with this is that equations frequently want to be longer than this. I've been experimenting with split page mode in my own notes to see how far I can get without more space than that for equations. Bill. We will revisit all this once we get some support again for some serious CSS/Javascript development. On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 1:56:55 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: besides being a distraction, the sidebar is a waste of screen space. On a 13 laptop screen I could comfortably view two pages of this side by side. (this might be another suggestion for the design - make such a layout possible.) On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:39:36 UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: You could zoom in (control plus) the browser window, which should be equivalent for testing purposes. That's what we ended up telling my students. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
besides being a distraction, the sidebar is a waste of screen space. On a 13 laptop screen I could comfortably view two pages of this side by side. (this might be another suggestion for the design - make such a layout possible.) On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:39:36 UTC+1, kcrisman wrote: You could zoom in (control plus) the browser window, which should be equivalent for testing purposes. That's what we ended up telling my students. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:20:02 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 1:12:29 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?) on the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a distraction. IMHO it should automatically hide itself... Yes, we discussed that one a lot. Try slowly making your browser window skinny and eventually the interface will go into small-device-mode. Now the button at the bottom-left should slide the contents sidebar in and out nicely. I use a tiling window manager on my laptops and desktops, and making windows skinny isn't really something I can do easily... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:00 AM, dimpase dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:20:02 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote: On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 1:12:29 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?) on the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a distraction. IMHO it should automatically hide itself... Yes, we discussed that one a lot. Try slowly making your browser window skinny and eventually the interface will go into small-device-mode. Now the button at the bottom-left should slide the contents sidebar in and out nicely. I use a tiling window manager on my laptops and desktops, and making windows skinny isn't really something I can do easily... You could zoom in (control plus) the browser window, which should be equivalent for testing purposes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-edu group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-edu+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-edu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?) on the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a distraction. IMHO it should automatically hide itself... Yes, we discussed that one a lot. Try slowly making your browser window skinny and eventually the interface will go into small-device-mode. Now the button at the bottom-left should slide the contents sidebar in and out nicely. Yes, one of my biggest annoyances is the same as Dima's; it should be clickable to small-device mode, but Rob and I have already had that discussion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
You could zoom in (control plus) the browser window, which should be equivalent for testing purposes. That's what we ended up telling my students. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 1:12:29 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?) on the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a distraction. IMHO it should automatically hide itself... Yes, we discussed that one a lot. Try slowly making your browser window skinny and eventually the interface will go into small-device-mode. Now the button at the bottom-left should slide the contents sidebar in and out nicely. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, 1 August 2015 21:23:44 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote: On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 2:05:07 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Perhaps they should rather generate your XML? (beezertex filename ;-)) No, seriously... Yes, seriously. ;-) I hope that something like this will be in place eventually. Please note that I actually rather like the way the e-book in question looks like, it's great in this way. And, by the way, looks good on an Android tablet too... Thanks for the testing, and I'm glad you like the end-product. All the CSS/Javascript is by a student of mine, Michael DuBois, who was supported at the tail end of the last NSF education grant (UTMOST). The small-screen interface never would have happened without him. One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?) on the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a distraction. IMHO it should automatically hide itself... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 2:05:07 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: Perhaps they should rather generate your XML? (beezertex filename ;-)) No, seriously... Yes, seriously. ;-) I hope that something like this will be in place eventually. Please note that I actually rather like the way the e-book in question looks like, it's great in this way. And, by the way, looks good on an Android tablet too... Thanks for the testing, and I'm glad you like the end-product. All the CSS/Javascript is by a student of mine, Michael DuBois, who was supported at the tail end of the last NSF education grant (UTMOST). The small-screen interface never would have happened without him. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 2:45:16 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: It would be nice if Sage cells would know about which cells they depend on; Right now evaluating a cell in the middle is very likely to cough up an error message about something not being defined. Yes, Sage Cells are linked with all the others on a page, but you typically want to execute them in order, so starting in the middle can be a disaster. MathBook XML is very flexible about chunking - so you can decide whether a section is a whole web page, or if a subsection is a webpage, or ... So you have some control about how many cells are enclosed as a unit. (And you should make this decision early while writing Sage cells!) There is also the inverse problem of defining some complicated object in a Sage Cell on some previous page and wanting to reuse it. This is solved partially by being able to use a cross-reference from the second page back to the cell on the previous page. The code still needs to re-run, but the author does not need to create and maintain the second version. IMHO we should think about moving non-technical Sage docs to mathbook. Of course, I'd stand ready to help with technical advice and additions to MathBook XML to support this. The underlying HTML is meant to be very semantic/structural/skinnable (without being too impractical), so ideally it would be possible to retain all the navigation, but also give a Sage-blue look and branding. An example with lots of Sage, which has a feel similar to the thematic tutorials, is at: http://linear.ups.edu/eagts/ With Sage 6.7, nineteen (out of 417) doctests are failing since the last update was Sage 5.12, so it needs just a bit of clean-up. Mostly deprecations, and rearrangments of output format. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 3:12:38 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: IMHO we should think about moving non-technical Sage docs to mathbook. write an automatic converted, why not... Sage-flavored ReST/Sphinx might be structured/predictable enough to be very amenable to this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On 07/31/2015 07:06 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: You don't need a closing tag that can be inserted by software, as certainly is the case for \section or \item.. (unless you spent a large part of your life writing HTML or XML by hand, of course :-)) The parser can insert them for you, but there are a lot of cases where it's not at all clear *where* the closing tag should go. Often, the presence of the opening tag is the bug -- not the absence of the closing tag. In that case adding the closing tags just makes things worse. Compare e.g. an XHTML 1.1 parser with an HTML5 parser. In XHTML, closing tags are required, but in HTML they're not. Writing an XHTML parser is simple -- any small XML parser will do -- but an HTML parser requires lots of ugly logic. I put parser in scare-quotes because you can't really parse HTML; you have to tag soup it. Most of the additional crud in an HTML parser is devoted to on-the-fly error handling (the user started a list item within a table within a paragraph and didn't close anything?). If you want to leave off your closing tags, in theory it's no problem -- once you know the error handling rules, you know where the closing tag will be added, and that's where it will go. But no one understands all of the error-handling rules, so no one really knows what's going to happen when they leave off a closing tag. It's very easy to trick people with short examples. So ultimately, it's just easier to spend some extra milliseconds putting the closing tag where you know you want it. Otherwise, the first time you have to debug a display issue twenty levels deep in some parser's error-handling routine, you're going to find yourself in the red. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, 1 August 2015 03:14:33 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote: On 07/31/2015 05:25 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: And if it is so easy to convert LaTeX into HTML, why hasn't anybody done it successfully? tex4ht is the only one I know that comes close, and only because it is the only one that uses the tex executable. sure, why is this bad to use the tex executable? Because it has to be done on the fly in your browser? Well, I cannot care less -- perhaps someone should develop a NaCL implementation of (La)TeX to be runnable in the browser? Not bad to use the tex executable. That is the key design decision in tex4ht that makes it as good as it is. Seems only tex can understand TeX. ;-) Perhaps they should rather generate your XML? (beezertex filename ;-)) No, seriously... Please note that I actually rather like the way the e-book in question looks like, it's great in this way. And, by the way, looks good on an Android tablet too... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 4:14:33 AM UTC+2, Rob Beezer wrote: Seems only tex can understand TeX. ;-) Tex it a Turing-complete language, XML is not. Hence only TeX can understand TeX, but for XML there are various 100% compliant parsers and converters. IMHO your decision to use XML is spot-on, its the right tool for the job. It would be nice if Sage cells would know about which cells they depend on; Right now evaluating a cell in the middle is very likely to cough up an error message about something not being defined. IMHO we should think about moving non-technical Sage docs to mathbook. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, 1 August 2015 10:45:16 UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 4:14:33 AM UTC+2, Rob Beezer wrote: Seems only tex can understand TeX. ;-) Tex it a Turing-complete language, XML is not. Hence only TeX can understand TeX, Rather, Wahr sind nur die Gedanken, die sich selber nicht verstehen but for XML there are various 100% compliant parsers and converters. IMHO your decision to use XML is spot-on, its the right tool for the job. Yeah, let us forbid Turing-complete languages, they are just too dangerous. Volker, have you secretly started on rewriting Sage a straight-line program? IMHO we should think about moving non-technical Sage docs to mathbook. write an automatic converted, why not... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Saturday, 1 August 2015 01:03:25 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:06:01 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
You don't need a closing tag that can be inserted by software,
as certainly is the case for \section or \item..
(unless you spent a large part of your life writing HTML or XML by hand,
of course :-))
So where does a LaTeX subparagraph end? When the next line is a \begin
for another subparagraph, or a paragraph, or a subsubsection, or a
subsection, or a section, or a chapter, or a part, or the \end{document}.
LaTeX is not an ideal system either, it's over-bloated monster. And
subparagraph is one of its severely deformed and brain-damaged at birth
heads. But XML is a step back in my view. Lately I find myself using plain
TeX and markdown more...
By the way, some years ago I tried to participate in an effort to write a
book in texmacs (www.texmacs.org). Time and time again one needed to edit
plain XML (or something XML-like, IIRC), to make it do the right thing...
And if it is so easy to convert LaTeX into HTML, why hasn't anybody done
it successfully? tex4ht is the only one I know that comes close, and only
because it is the only one that uses the tex executable.
sure, why is this bad to use the tex executable? Because it has to be done
on the fly in your browser? Well, I cannot care less -- perhaps someone
should develop a NaCL implementation of (La)TeX to be runnable in the
browser?
But try to extend it to convert LaTeX into a Sage Notebook worksheet,
like I did for several years.Current project is borne of many such
experiences.
I wish Knuth did review (X)HTML format proposals for sanity...
Me too. ;-)
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[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:06:01 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
You don't need a closing tag that can be inserted by software,
as certainly is the case for \section or \item..
(unless you spent a large part of your life writing HTML or XML by hand,
of course :-))
So where does a LaTeX subparagraph end? When the next line is a \begin
for another subparagraph, or a paragraph, or a subsubsection, or a
subsection, or a section, or a chapter, or a part, or the \end{document}.
And if it is so easy to convert LaTeX into HTML, why hasn't anybody done it
successfully? tex4ht is the only one I know that comes close, and only
because it is the only one that uses the tex executable. But try to extend
it to convert LaTeX into a Sage Notebook worksheet, like I did for several
years.Current project is borne of many such experiences.
I wish Knuth did review (X)HTML format proposals for sanity...
Me too. ;-)
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[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 4:06:01 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: I wish Knuth did review (X)HTML format proposals for sanity... I should add that MathBook XML adds no new syntax for mathematics proper. In other words, symbols, equations, displays are not written in something like MathML (that would be painful for a human). Instead, all the symbols and constructions you already know can be used. LaTeX is great between the dollar signs. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On 07/31/2015 05:25 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: And if it is so easy to convert LaTeX into HTML, why hasn't anybody done it successfully? tex4ht is the only one I know that comes close, and only because it is the only one that uses the tex executable. sure, why is this bad to use the tex executable? Because it has to be done on the fly in your browser? Well, I cannot care less -- perhaps someone should develop a NaCL implementation of (La)TeX to be runnable in the browser? Not bad to use the tex executable. That is the key design decision in tex4ht that makes it as good as it is. Seems only tex can understand TeX. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
In most cases, MathBook XML is not more cumbersome than
LaTeX, particularly if you are using an editor which
automatically inserts closing tags. For example, in LaTeX
\section{...} starts a section, and you do not have to
explicitly indicate where the section ends. In MBX, you have
to supply the /section.
MBX was designed to be written by human authors. Take a look
at the source of Judson's book!
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 02:17:27 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-7, parisse wrote:
I had a quick look, but I'm still a little bit confused
how the source are written. Do you write your source
files in xml or have you some kind of converter from a
latex source file?
MathBook XML is the XML application I am designing. It is a collection
of XML tags meant to be usable for an author: chapter, section,
theorem, example, exercise, etc. I have written converters to LaTeX (for
PDF, print) and to HTML. Other conversions are possible and planned.
It's main purpose is for authors creating new content.
XML? I wish pandoc (http://pandoc.org/) could handle conversions to and from
your format...
Do people really want to write XML by hand? I tried it once (GAP docs can be
prepared using XML) and was not amused.
Just wondering,
Dima
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[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra
On Friday, 31 July 2015 15:27:19 UTC+1, David Farmer wrote:
In most cases, MathBook XML is not more cumbersome than
LaTeX, particularly if you are using an editor which
automatically inserts closing tags.
You don't need a closing tag that can be inserted by software,
as certainly is the case for \section or \item..
(unless you spent a large part of your life writing HTML or XML by hand,
of course :-))
I wish Knuth did review (X)HTML format proposals for sanity...
For example, in LaTeX
\section{...} starts a section, and you do not have to
explicitly indicate where the section ends. In MBX, you have
to supply the /section.
MBX was designed to be written by human authors. Take a look
at the source of Judson's book!
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
On Friday, 31 July 2015 02:17:27 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-7, parisse wrote:
I had a quick look, but I'm still a little bit confused
how the source are written. Do you write your source
files in xml or have you some kind of converter from a
latex source file?
MathBook XML is the XML application I am designing. It is a
collection
of XML tags meant to be usable for an author: chapter, section,
theorem, example, exercise, etc. I have written converters to LaTeX
(for
PDF, print) and to HTML. Other conversions are possible and planned.
It's main purpose is for authors creating new content.
XML? I wish pandoc (http://pandoc.org/) could handle conversions to and
from
your format...
Do people really want to write XML by hand? I tried it once (GAP docs
can be
prepared using XML) and was not amused.
Just wondering,
Dima
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