[sage-devel] Re: Something funny (must read) - opening Sun computers.
Bill Hart wrote: > More than likely the company that looked at your computers to see if > they were broken, has done you a great favour. I used to work as a > computer tech and sometimes it was very difficult to determine whether > a computer was broken or not. > > By the time the company had dealt with your computers, I'm pretty sure > it was much easier to tell. > > For example, suppose you were sent one of the following computers to > evaluate. I'm pretty sure that now the computer techs have had a look, > deciding whether they are broken or not is *much* easier: > > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f43/anil_robo/broken_computer.jpg I'm not so sure. Several iVal employees are so incompetent, it would never surprise me if one of their technicians tried to plug that one in to test it! It was lucky for them the electrical damage to my machine was too severe to make fixing it economical. Otherwise that stupidity would have cost them a couple of thousand dollars. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Something funny (must read) - opening Sun computers.
> I thought I'd amuse you a little, and hopefully my progress on Solaris > will improve somewhat in the near future, when I get the hardware replaced. That is amusing, and I must say, shocking. Primarily because the sage.math computers are a *dream* to work on. Press a tab here, pull a little, and the panel comes off. Everything can be swapped out, and typically things are held in with a little hasp of some sort and a friction-fit plug. The only thing I've needed a screwdriver for has been things like PCI cards; and they make the screws day-glow green! Second... I've worked as a computer tech before, and I've taken apart countless computers. Took apart a laptop once, and didn't break anything. That sort of treatment is incomprehensible. I'm betting that your insurance company won't call them again... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Something funny (must read) - opening Sun computers.
More than likely the company that looked at your computers to see if they were broken, has done you a great favour. I used to work as a computer tech and sometimes it was very difficult to determine whether a computer was broken or not. By the time the company had dealt with your computers, I'm pretty sure it was much easier to tell. For example, suppose you were sent one of the following computers to evaluate. I'm pretty sure that now the computer techs have had a look, deciding whether they are broken or not is *much* easier: http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f43/anil_robo/broken_computer.jpg http://www.geekologie.com/2009/05/08/broken%20computer.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/dragonden/2261693179/ http://www.freewebs.com/pcwales/broken_computer.jpg http://www.geocities.com/jrvarsity82/broken_computer.jpg http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4667591/brokencomputer-main_Full.jpg http://kdmurray.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/broken_computer.jpg http://www.vagabondjourney.com/2009-travel-photos/09-08-asus-ee-pc-computer-parts.JPG http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1598/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1598R-164454.jpg http://www.utne.com/uploadedImages/utne/blogs/Science_and_Technology/BrokenMonitor.jpg Bill. On 24 Sep, 09:35, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > As you are aware, I am trying to improve Sage on Solaris. My progress > has been stunted recently as three of my Sun computers were destroyed by > lightning, including the fastest one I own. The damage is currently > subject to an insurance claim, which I believe is almost resolved. > > Soon I should have some new Solaris hardware (both SPARC and x86). One > of the x86 machines will be a quad core Xeon 3.33 GHz, so hopefully > building Sage wont be too painful on Solaris x86. > > I know Sun computers are complex bits of kit, using components like > resistors and even integrated circuits, but I thought removing the > covers from them was pretty dam simple. All one needs is a Phillips > screwdriver, and a little bit of common sense. Failing that, the service > manuals are online at docs.sun.com. > > As part of the insurance claim, a couple of the Suns were returned to a > company called iVal, that deals with computer insurance claims. > > (The machines had to be later returned to me, as iVal were unable to > test Sun computers - despite I'd told them in advance what they were. > The insurers agreed to pay a local company I found to test them instead.) > > I thought I'd amuse you with a few photos of how the covers were removed > from two of the Sun computers returned to me. > > Here is how to open a Sun Ultra 60: > > First break off the corner of the > cover:http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-actio... > > Since that obviously does not allow the cover to be removed, smash off > the part where the screwdriver should have been inserted: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-actio... > > Here's a close up of that bit, which they kindly wrapped up in bubble > wrap for me. I guess the bubble wrap gave it protection in transit! > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-actio... > > At that point, all it needed was the cover to be slid back, but these > computer experts decided it was easier to break off the 4 little catches > on the cover. This would allow them to pull the cover out sideways, not > backwards as it was designed to be removed. I did not notice the absence > immediately, so don't have any photos of that. > > On another machine, they managed to remove the cover, but had some > difficulty in fitting it back, so shipped it back to me with the cover > in place on one side, but not on the other. > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-actio... > > The third Sun computer destroyed by the lightning, (a Sun Blade 2000) > was too heavy to ship - I refused to wrap it up, so after some argument, > the insurers agreed for that to be inspected in my home. So it never > suffered the same fate as the other two machines. > > The computer company have given me a *very* frustrating time, and my > insurers agreed to compensate me £200 (around $325) for the messing > around I received. This £200 was not for the damage, only the messing > around - the machines was written off anyway. > > I thought I'd amuse you a little, and hopefully my progress on Solaris > will improve somewhat in the near future, when I get the hardware replaced. > > Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Something funny (must read) - opening Sun computers.
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > As you are aware, I am trying to improve Sage on Solaris. My progress > has been stunted recently as three of my Sun computers were destroyed by > lightning, including the fastest one I own. The damage is currently > subject to an insurance claim, which I believe is almost resolved. > > Soon I should have some new Solaris hardware (both SPARC and x86). One > of the x86 machines will be a quad core Xeon 3.33 GHz, so hopefully > building Sage wont be too painful on Solaris x86. > > I know Sun computers are complex bits of kit, using components like > resistors and even integrated circuits, but I thought removing the > covers from them was pretty dam simple. All one needs is a Phillips > screwdriver, and a little bit of common sense. Failing that, the service > manuals are online at docs.sun.com. > > As part of the insurance claim, a couple of the Suns were returned to a > company called iVal, that deals with computer insurance claims. > > (The machines had to be later returned to me, as iVal were unable to > test Sun computers - despite I'd told them in advance what they were. > The insurers agreed to pay a local company I found to test them instead.) > > I thought I'd amuse you with a few photos of how the covers were removed > from two of the Sun computers returned to me. > > Here is how to open a Sun Ultra 60: > > First break off the corner of the cover: > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-action/Broken-corner-of-Sun-Ultra-60.jpg > > Since that obviously does not allow the cover to be removed, smash off > the part where the screwdriver should have been inserted: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-action/ultra-60-broken-centre.jpg > > Here's a close up of that bit, which they kindly wrapped up in bubble > wrap for me. I guess the bubble wrap gave it protection in transit! > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-action/broken-bracket-from-Sun-Ultra-60-case.jpg > > At that point, all it needed was the cover to be slid back, but these > computer experts decided it was easier to break off the 4 little catches > on the cover. This would allow them to pull the cover out sideways, not > backwards as it was designed to be removed. I did not notice the absence > immediately, so don't have any photos of that. > > On another machine, they managed to remove the cover, but had some > difficulty in fitting it back, so shipped it back to me with the cover > in place on one side, but not on the other. > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/kirkby/Computer-experts-in-action/netra-t1-Lid-misplaced-and-scratched.jpg > > The third Sun computer destroyed by the lightning, (a Sun Blade 2000) > was too heavy to ship - I refused to wrap it up, so after some argument, > the insurers agreed for that to be inspected in my home. So it never > suffered the same fate as the other two machines. > > The computer company have given me a *very* frustrating time, and my > insurers agreed to compensate me £200 (around $325) for the messing > around I received. This £200 was not for the damage, only the messing > around - the machines was written off anyway. > > I thought I'd amuse you a little, and hopefully my progress on Solaris > will improve somewhat in the near future, when I get the hardware replaced. > LOL I remember struggling very, very hard once to get the cover off of my Sun Fire V20z. It's shocking how badly they messed up your boxes though! William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
