[sage-devel] Re: Testing futur mirror : www.sagemath.fr

2008-06-19 Thread Harald Schilly



On Jun 19, 2:15 am, Dan Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hard to say. Many Korean websites rely on ActiveX controls, and hence
 design their site for IE only

mhm, so this is the effect of no market control and us export laws of
the 90ties? Great ... :(
Do you know if those activeX controls would work in wine?
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ - get ie6 ... but emulations are
never like the real deal, especially with ie6.

h
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[sage-devel] Re: Testing futur mirror : www.sagemath.fr

2008-06-18 Thread Dan Drake
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 at 10:05AM +0200, Philippe Saade wrote:
 So, can some of you visit http://www.sagemath.fr and tell me if you
 see something wrong ?

I visited it, poked around, did some downloading, and it all seems to
work fine. It was a bit slow, but I'm connecting from Korea and
everything has been slow today. I blame the rainy season. :)

Looks good!

(Someday I hope to get a Korea/Asia mirror going, but until the Windows
port is working, it will be very hard to get anyone in Korea interested
in Sage...)

Dan

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[sage-devel] Re: Testing futur mirror : www.sagemath.fr

2008-06-18 Thread Harald Schilly

On Jun 18, 10:05 am, Philippe Saade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, can some of you visithttp://www.sagemath.frand tell me if you
 see something wrong ?

Hi, I've tested the server, seems like you have limited the download
speed per connection, because i can go up to 3 mbyte/s if i open up
more - but about 1 mbyte in 2 secs per connection is fast enough. The
ping delay is constantly at around 21ms (location vienna, austria ...
with a very good connection) while downloading two packages at the
same time - and at the same time, wget -r still crawls very fast!
So, looks very good to me!

Harald
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[sage-devel] Re: Testing futur mirror : www.sagemath.fr

2008-06-18 Thread mabshoff



On Jun 18, 2:02 am, Dan Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 at 10:05AM +0200, Philippe Saade wrote:
  So, can some of you visithttp://www.sagemath.frand tell me if you
  see something wrong ?

 I visited it, poked around, did some downloading, and it all seems to
 work fine. It was a bit slow, but I'm connecting from Korea and
 everything has been slow today. I blame the rainy season. :)

 Looks good!

Yep, I pulled some dmg from Seattle and the download speed was around
60 kb/s, but that is no real surprise. Overall I did not see anything
that was broken. And rsync is not going to put a large load on
sage.math, so you should start rsyncing daily, soo :)

 (Someday I hope to get a Korea/Asia mirror going, but until the Windows
 port is working, it will be very hard to get anyone in Korea interested
 in Sage...)

Would we get a whole bunch of users only or also some developers in
your opinion?

 Dan

Cheers,

Michael

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[sage-devel] Re: Testing futur mirror : www.sagemath.fr

2008-06-18 Thread Dan Drake
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 at 06:46AM -0700, mabshoff wrote:
  (Someday I hope to get a Korea/Asia mirror going, but until the Windows
  port is working, it will be very hard to get anyone in Korea interested
  in Sage...)
 
 Would we get a whole bunch of users only or also some developers in
 your opinion?

Hard to say. Many Korean websites rely on ActiveX controls, and hence
design their site for IE only. Then, since you have a bunch of sites
which are designed for IE only, most other Korean websites are designed
for IE. This locks everyone into Windows. (For more information than any
of you need to know, see [1], [2], [3].)

Here at KAIST, there is widespread knowledge of Linux and many people
play around with it, but since you can't really use any Korean websites
that use ActiveX, Linux can only be a part-time toy. 

The Windows port of Sage would probably first get us a small group of
users, and as some of them started talking about Sage in Korean and on
Korean websites, we'd see faster growth and start picking up some
developers. (And translators!)

Dan

PS: Random note for mabshoff and other German speakers: the word they
use in Korean for part time job is arbeit.

[1]: http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/
[2]: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=412
[3]: 
http://www.korealawblog.com/entry/why_you_cant_buy_anything_on_line_in_korea_mr_foreigner

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[sage-devel] Re: Testing futur mirror : www.sagemath.fr

2008-06-18 Thread David Harvey


On Jun 18, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Dan Drake wrote:

 [1]: http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/
 [2]: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=412
 [3]: http://www.korealawblog.com/entry/ 
 why_you_cant_buy_anything_on_line_in_korea_mr_foreigner

Holy crap.

david


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