[sage-support] Symbol, commutative=False

2013-09-07 Thread Dumont Thierry

Something I do not understand...

from sympy import Symbol
t=Symbol("t",commutative=True)
A=Symbol("A",commutative=False)
B=Symbol("B",commutative=False)

So, now, I do:

ee=(t*t/2)*(A+B)*(A+B)
ee.expand()

gives:

t**2*A*B/2 + t**2*A**2/2 + t**2*B*A/2 + t**2*B**2/2

which is what I was waiting for...

Now, do:
ee=1+t*(A+B)+(t*t/2)*(A+B)*(A+B)
I get:

1/2*A^2*t^2 + A*B*t^2 + 1/2*B^2*t^2 + A*t + B*t + 1

Which is not what I was waiting for!

It looks like if A*B is considered as B*A in the second case!

My Sage version is : 5.9.

t.d.

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Re: [sage-support] Re: The results of some integration test.

2013-09-07 Thread Peter Luschny


> I have put the test suite in a Sage worksheet and added some comments. 
>
 
I have moved the worksheet. It is now the public project 'CharlwoodFifty' 
at https://cloud.sagemath.com/

Unfortunately I do not know how to give a link to this project.

Peter

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Re: [sage-support] The results of some integration test.

2013-09-07 Thread Georgi Guninski
Interesting experiment.

Your methodology for "diffs back" assumes
correctly computing the derivative and correctly
comparing symbolic expressions and for the latter
counterexamples are known [1]

bool( sqrt((a+b)^2) == sqrt(a^2) + sqrt(b^2) )
True

btw, I get:
'sage.rings.complex_interval.ComplexIntervalFieldElement' object has no 
attribute 'cot'

when trying your |check| on this:

-arctan(cot(pi*x))/pi + 1/2 #fractional part of x

[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.support/32115

On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 10:01:07AM -0700, Peter Luschny wrote:
> Recently two integration test suites were discussed at sci.math.symbolic 
> [1], [2].
> 
> I executed the tests with Sage and put the results on my webpage [3].
> Not all results are favorable for Sage. Maybe this is worth to be
> noted by some Sage developers.
> 
> Peter
> 
> [1] 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.math.symbolic/UB0udwILOSw/msxc57stRM8J
> [2] 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.math.symbolic/D9W45zQTY3U/nIxsBZ-4RasJ
> [3] http://luschny.de/math/quad/IntegralTestsSage.html
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[sage-support] Trouble saving graphics

2013-09-07 Thread Ed Scheinerman
I'm using Sage 5.11 on a Mac

I've been used to creating graphs and then saving them as PDF's for 
inclusion in papers. Using code like this:

sage: g = graphs.PetersenGraph()
sage: pic = g.plot()
sage: pic.save('pete.pdf')

But now it just throws a bunch of errors:

---
AssertionErrorTraceback (most recent call last)
 in ()
> 1 pic.save('pete.pdf')

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/misc/decorators.pyc
 
in wrapper(*args, **kwds)
456 kwds[self.name + "options"] = suboptions
457 
--> 458 return func(*args, **kwds)
459 
460 #Add the options specified by @options to the signature of 
the wrapped

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/plot/graphics.pyc
 
in save(self, filename, **kwds)
   2753 figure.savefig(filename, dpi=dpi, 
bbox_inches='tight',
   2754 bbox_extra_artists=self._bbox_extra_artists,
-> 2755 transparent=transparent)
   2756 else:
   2757 figure.savefig(filename, dpi=dpi,

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/figure.pyc
 
in savefig(self, *args, **kwargs)
   1368 kwargs.setdefault('edgecolor', 
rcParams['savefig.edgecolor'])
   1369 
-> 1370 self.canvas.print_figure(*args, **kwargs)
   1371 
   1372 if transparent:

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backend_bases.pyc
 
in print_figure(self, filename, dpi, facecolor, edgecolor, orientation, 
format, **kwargs)
   2053 orientation=orientation,
   2054 dryrun=True,
-> 2055 **kwargs)
   2056 renderer = self.figure._cachedRenderer
   2057 bbox_inches = self.figure.get_tightbbox(renderer)

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backend_bases.pyc
 
in print_pdf(self, *args, **kwargs)
   1846 from backends.backend_pdf import FigureCanvasPdf # lazy 
import
   1847 pdf = self.switch_backends(FigureCanvasPdf)
-> 1848 return pdf.print_pdf(*args, **kwargs)
   1849 
   1850 def print_pgf(self, *args, **kwargs):

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backends/backend_pdf.py
 
in print_pdf(self, filename, **kwargs)
   2299  width, height, image_dpi, 
RendererPdf(file, image_dpi),
   2300 
 bbox_inches_restore=_bbox_inches_restore)
-> 2301 self.figure.draw(renderer)
   2302 renderer.finalize()
   2303 finally:

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
 
in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
 52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs):
 53 before(artist, renderer)
---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
 55 after(artist, renderer)
 56 

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/figure.pyc
 
in draw(self, renderer)
   1004 dsu.sort(key=itemgetter(0))
   1005 for zorder, a, func, args in dsu:
-> 1006 func(*args)
   1007 
   1008 renderer.close_group('figure')

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
 
in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
 52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs):
 53 before(artist, renderer)
---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
 55 after(artist, renderer)
 56 

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.pyc
 
in draw(self, renderer, inframe)
   2084 
   2085 for zorder, a in dsu:
-> 2086 a.draw(renderer)
   2087 
   2088 renderer.close_group('axes')

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
 
in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
 52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs):
 53 before(artist, renderer)
---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
 55 after(artist, renderer)
 56 

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/collections.pyc
 
in draw(self, renderer)
693 (np.sqrt(x) * self.figure.dpi / 72.0))
694 for x in self._sizes]
--> 695 return Collection.draw(self, renderer)
696 
697 class PolyCollection(Collection):

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
 
in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
 52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs):
 53 before(artist, renderer)
---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *arg

Re: [sage-support] The results of some integration test.

2013-09-07 Thread Peter Luschny
>Your methodology for "diffs back" assumes
>correctly computing the derivative and correctly
>comparing symbolic expressions and for the latter
>counterexamples are known

Yes. This is just an indicator of possible problems, nothing more.
"diffs back" checks f == 0 which is incorrect a priori, it should 
be f == c for some constant. (See for example problem(24).) 
But as a warning lamp for the reviewer it works quite well.

> 'sage.rings.complex_interval.ComplexIntervalFieldElement'
> object has no attribute 'cot'

There are many similar errors of this kind. I have been told that
they reflect some other Sage bug not related to integration.

The most weird thing I observed occurs in connection with Charlwood's 
problem 8. Sometimes Sage quits with an RuntimeError and sometimes
Sage returns a monster solution. Indefinite integration by a Monte 
Carlo method? Something for the Journal of Irreproducible Results ;-)

Peter

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[sage-support] Re: Trouble saving graphics

2013-09-07 Thread P Purkayastha
It seems saving to pdf is broken on sage-5.10 onwards. Works till 
sage-5.9. The problem is only in graphs. Normal plots work fine.


I have opened http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15173 to track this.

On 09/07/2013 09:06 PM, Ed Scheinerman wrote:

I'm using Sage 5.11 on a Mac

I've been used to creating graphs and then saving them as PDF's for
inclusion in papers. Using code like this:

sage: g = graphs.PetersenGraph()
sage: pic = g.plot()
sage: pic.save('pete.pdf')

But now it just throws a bunch of errors:

---
AssertionErrorTraceback (most recent call last)
 in ()
> 1 pic.save('pete.pdf')

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/misc/decorators.pyc
in wrapper(*args, **kwds)
 456 kwds[self.name + "options"] = suboptions
 457
--> 458 return func(*args, **kwds)
 459
 460 #Add the options specified by @options to the signature
of the wrapped

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/plot/graphics.pyc
in save(self, filename, **kwds)
2753 figure.savefig(filename, dpi=dpi,
bbox_inches='tight',
2754 bbox_extra_artists=self._bbox_extra_artists,
-> 2755 transparent=transparent)
2756 else:
2757 figure.savefig(filename, dpi=dpi,

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/figure.pyc
in savefig(self, *args, **kwargs)
1368 kwargs.setdefault('edgecolor',
rcParams['savefig.edgecolor'])
1369
-> 1370 self.canvas.print_figure(*args, **kwargs)
1371
1372 if transparent:

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backend_bases.pyc
in print_figure(self, filename, dpi, facecolor, edgecolor, orientation,
format, **kwargs)
2053 orientation=orientation,
2054 dryrun=True,
-> 2055 **kwargs)
2056 renderer = self.figure._cachedRenderer
2057 bbox_inches = self.figure.get_tightbbox(renderer)

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backend_bases.pyc
in print_pdf(self, *args, **kwargs)
1846 from backends.backend_pdf import FigureCanvasPdf # lazy
import
1847 pdf = self.switch_backends(FigureCanvasPdf)
-> 1848 return pdf.print_pdf(*args, **kwargs)
1849
1850 def print_pgf(self, *args, **kwargs):

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backends/backend_pdf.py
in print_pdf(self, filename, **kwargs)
2299  width, height,
image_dpi, RendererPdf(file, image_dpi),
2300
  bbox_inches_restore=_bbox_inches_restore)
-> 2301 self.figure.draw(renderer)
2302 renderer.finalize()
2303 finally:

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
  52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs):
  53 before(artist, renderer)
---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
  55 after(artist, renderer)
  56

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/figure.pyc
in draw(self, renderer)
1004 dsu.sort(key=itemgetter(0))
1005 for zorder, a, func, args in dsu:
-> 1006 func(*args)
1007
1008 renderer.close_group('figure')

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
  52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs):
  53 before(artist, renderer)
---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
  55 after(artist, renderer)
  56

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.pyc
in draw(self, renderer, inframe)
2084
2085 for zorder, a in dsu:
-> 2086 a.draw(renderer)
2087
2088 renderer.close_group('axes')

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
  52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs):
  53 before(artist, renderer)
---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs)
  55 after(artist, renderer)
  56

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/collections.pyc
in draw(self, renderer)
 693 (np.sqrt(x) * self.figure.dpi / 72.0))
 694 for x in self._sizes]
--> 695 return Collection.draw(self, renderer)
 696
 697 class PolyCollection(Collection):

/Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib

[sage-support] autoeval in sagecell

2013-09-07 Thread davidp
I am wondering why only the first cell in the following is automatically 
evaluated:

http://people.reed.edu/~davidp/211/sage/sagecell/tangent_plane.html

I have autoeval set to 'True' and notice that if I add


1+1


at the end, it is automatically evaluated.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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[sage-support] Problems with cell not refreshing in notebook

2013-09-07 Thread Paul Zeitz
I am using Mac OS 10.8 and Sage 5.11 in a browser (Safari or Chrome).

I recently noticed that whenever I do a calculation in a notebook, and hit 
shift-enter, nothing happens (green line at the left, no output).  After some 
experimentation, I found that refreshing the browser (command-R) solves the 
problem.  However, it is quite annoying, and it compromises using interactives, 
which I do all the time in my classes.  Now when I change an interactive input 
value, the display will not change until I also hit command-R.  I have no idea 
why this is happening.  I had not used Sage in some time before this happened.  
Doesn't matter if I use Safari or Chrome, but no problems when in Terminal 
mode.  

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Re: [sage-support] Sage installation

2013-09-07 Thread Ivan Andrus
On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:32 AM, kcrisman  wrote:
> On Monday, September 2, 2013 9:12:33 AM UTC-4, arshpreet singh wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 5:05 PM, casper sky  wrote:
> Hello, I want to know that can I install Sage on my iPad as I'm using it on 
> my mac ?
> 
>  yes you can see the link below:
> 
> https://itunes.apple.com/in/app/sage-math/id496492945?mt=8
> 
> But note that this is not a full Sage installation; it is a service that uses 
> sagecell.sagemath.org , so the limits of that service in terms of computation 
> length etc. would apply. 

Indeed.  You can also just use Safari to access a "normal" sage notebook server 
[1], and then create a shortcut for it.  

It should be theoretically be possible to install Sage itself on the iPad, but 
AFAIK no one has done it yet.  I suspect it is somewhat difficult.  And 
distributing it via the app store may not be possible due Apple's restrictions 
on interpreted languages.

-Ivan

[1] e.g. http://sagenb.org or http://cloud.sagemath.org

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[sage-support] Re: Trouble saving graphics

2013-09-07 Thread Ed Scheinerman
I found a temporary workaround. Save as .eps (which works fine) and then 
use epstopdf to convert to .pdf. 

On Saturday, September 7, 2013 12:01:40 PM UTC-4, P Purkayastha wrote:
>
> It seems saving to pdf is broken on sage-5.10 onwards. Works till 
> sage-5.9. The problem is only in graphs. Normal plots work fine. 
>
> I have opened http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/15173 to track this. 
>
> On 09/07/2013 09:06 PM, Ed Scheinerman wrote: 
> > I'm using Sage 5.11 on a Mac 
> > 
> > I've been used to creating graphs and then saving them as PDF's for 
> > inclusion in papers. Using code like this: 
> > 
> > sage: g = graphs.PetersenGraph() 
> > sage: pic = g.plot() 
> > sage: pic.save('pete.pdf') 
> > 
> > But now it just throws a bunch of errors: 
> > 
> > 
> --- 
> > AssertionErrorTraceback (most recent call 
> last) 
> >  in () 
> > > 1 pic.save('pete.pdf') 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/misc/decorators.pyc
>  
>
> > in wrapper(*args, **kwds) 
> >  456 kwds[self.name + "options"] = suboptions 
> >  457 
> > --> 458 return func(*args, **kwds) 
> >  459 
> >  460 #Add the options specified by @options to the signature 
> > of the wrapped 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sage/plot/graphics.pyc
>  
>
> > in save(self, filename, **kwds) 
> > 2753 figure.savefig(filename, dpi=dpi, 
> > bbox_inches='tight', 
> > 2754 
> bbox_extra_artists=self._bbox_extra_artists, 
> > -> 2755 transparent=transparent) 
> > 2756 else: 
> > 2757 figure.savefig(filename, dpi=dpi, 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/figure.pyc
>  
>
> > in savefig(self, *args, **kwargs) 
> > 1368 kwargs.setdefault('edgecolor', 
> > rcParams['savefig.edgecolor']) 
> > 1369 
> > -> 1370 self.canvas.print_figure(*args, **kwargs) 
> > 1371 
> > 1372 if transparent: 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backend_bases.pyc
>  
>
> > in print_figure(self, filename, dpi, facecolor, edgecolor, orientation, 
> > format, **kwargs) 
> > 2053 orientation=orientation, 
> > 2054 dryrun=True, 
> > -> 2055 **kwargs) 
> > 2056 renderer = self.figure._cachedRenderer 
> > 2057 bbox_inches = 
> self.figure.get_tightbbox(renderer) 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backend_bases.pyc
>  
>
> > in print_pdf(self, *args, **kwargs) 
> > 1846 from backends.backend_pdf import FigureCanvasPdf # lazy 
> > import 
> > 1847 pdf = self.switch_backends(FigureCanvasPdf) 
> > -> 1848 return pdf.print_pdf(*args, **kwargs) 
> > 1849 
> > 1850 def print_pgf(self, *args, **kwargs): 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/backends/backend_pdf.py
>  
>
> > in print_pdf(self, filename, **kwargs) 
> > 2299  width, height, 
> > image_dpi, RendererPdf(file, image_dpi), 
> > 2300 
> >   bbox_inches_restore=_bbox_inches_restore) 
> > -> 2301 self.figure.draw(renderer) 
> > 2302 renderer.finalize() 
> > 2303 finally: 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
>  
>
> > in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs) 
> >   52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs): 
> >   53 before(artist, renderer) 
> > ---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs) 
> >   55 after(artist, renderer) 
> >   56 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/figure.pyc
>  
>
> > in draw(self, renderer) 
> > 1004 dsu.sort(key=itemgetter(0)) 
> > 1005 for zorder, a, func, args in dsu: 
> > -> 1006 func(*args) 
> > 1007 
> > 1008 renderer.close_group('figure') 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/artist.pyc
>  
>
> > in draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs) 
> >   52 def draw_wrapper(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs): 
> >   53 before(artist, renderer) 
> > ---> 54 draw(artist, renderer, *args, **kwargs) 
> >   55 after(artist, renderer) 
> >   56 
> > 
> > 
> /Users/ers/share/sage-5.11/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.pyc
>  
>
> > in draw(self, renderer, inframe) 
> > 2084 
> > 2085 for zorder, a in dsu: 
> > -> 2086 a.draw(renderer) 
> > 2087 
> > 2088 rende

[sage-support] Re: autoeval in sagecell

2013-09-07 Thread Jason Grout

On 9/7/13 11:30 AM, davidp wrote:

I am wondering why only the first cell in the following is automatically
evaluated:

http://people.reed.edu/~davidp/211/sage/sagecell/tangent_plane.html

I have autoeval set to 'True' and notice that if I add


1+1


at the end, it is automatically evaluated.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


It looks like a bug is lurking somewhere.  I'll try to look at this soon 
(hopefully next week).


I've filed this at https://github.com/sagemath/sagecell/issues/428

Thanks,

Jason



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