Re: [sage-support] The best practices for using SageNB in SagaMath 9.1?

[John H Palmieri]

I was hoping that it might be missing dependencies when building sagenb, 
but when I tried this, it didn't help. Maybe something this will work:

./configure --with-python=2 --enable-sagenb=yes 
--enable-flask_autoindex=yes --enable-flask_babel=yes --enable-flask=yes 
--enable-flask_oldsessions=yes --enable-flask_openid=yes 
--enable-flask_silk=yes --enable-twisted=yes --enable-speaklater=yes

followed by

make

(When we switched to Python 3, we made various packages optional, some of 
which are necessary for sagenb. We didn't record them as dependencies of 
sagenb, so "--enable-sagenb=yes" is not sufficient to build them.)



On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 4:52:14 AM UTC-8 Xie wrote:

> Yes. If one people  edit the notebook  then the other's browser will auto 
> refresh.  Not a very good experience, just works.
>
>
> 在2020年11月18日星期三 UTC+8 下午5:04:02 写道：
>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 2:42 AM Xie  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, but jupyterhub  does not supoort  real-time collaboration now 
>>> though  roadmap  contains  this.
>>
>> there was no RTC (2+ people working on the same sheet in real time) in 
>> sageNB either, if I recall right.
>> The jupyter roadmap is via jupyterlab, I think.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 在2020年11月18日星期三 UTC+8 上午2:07:29 写道：
>>>
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 2:50 PM Xie  wrote:

> Yes.  I use  *Jupyter* *Notebook*   myself. But  I need share with 
> other people sometimes.  And  *Jupyter* Notebook*  does not* provide 
> a server mode to make the others register an  account.  


 what you need is 
 https://jupyterhub.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

 Here are SageMath-specific instructions: 
 https://opendreamkit.org/2018/10/17/jupyterhub-docker/
 see also 
 https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/trouble-getting-sagemath-up-and-running-solved/1354
 (there conda is recommended, and perhaps it is indeed the quickest way 
 to get everything set up)

 The SageMath docs on this are not complete, but there is work being 
 done on it:
 https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30476


  

> Most students use Windows, which is not very friendly to SageMath.   I 
> also tried Cocalc in  Docker. Its UI   is a bit complicated for 
> *newbie*.
> In addition, Ubuntu 18.04 and Archlinux can run SageMath 8.9 without 
> problems.  Now I use  SageMath 8.9 on 
> a Ubuntu 18.04   server to run SageNB.
> 在2020年11月17日星期二 UTC+8 下午9:44:53 写道：
>
>> Hi,
>> SageMath never supported SageNB on Python3, it did not "drop" such a 
>> support.
>> SageNB has been *retired *since SageMath stopped supporting Python2 
>> in version 9.2, and it is high time to switch to
>> another notebook solution, while converters from SageNB are readily 
>> available.
>> This should not be a surprise, as a deprecation notice for SageNB has 
>> been up since Sage 8.5 (i.e. in 2018), I think,
>> see https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/pull/451 and 
>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25852
>>
>> Having said that, I could also point out that the latest Arch, as 
>> well as the latest update of Ubuntu 18.04 have been released after Sage 
>> 9.1, so there is absolutely no guarantee that 9.1 would work on them, 
>> with 
>> Python 2 or 3.
>>
>> HTH
>> Dima
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 1:07 PM 漂  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,  I maintain a  SageNB server since 2011. But as you know, 
>> SageMath has droped the support of SageNB on Python3. Now I want to run 
>> SageNB in SagaMath 9.1. But I failed many times. 
>> >
>> > I follows the codes  by Samuel Lelièvre given  in
>> >  
>> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/53501/get-the-error-nameerror-name-_interact_-is-not-defined-when-run-sagenb/
>>  
>> .
>> >
>> > make configure 
>> > ./configure --with-python=2 --enable-sagenb=yes
>> >  make -s V=0
>> >
>> > I have tried the source "sage-9.1.tar.gz" and  the tag9.1 source in 
>>  github. I test on Archl linux and Ubuntu 18.04.  I always get the 
>> following error. 
>> >
>> > Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in 
>>  File "_sage_input_6.py", line 8, in  
>> _interact_.SAGE_CELL_ID=1 NameError: name '_interact_' is not defined
>> >
>> >
>> > This problem may be caused by the codes in 
>> sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sagenb-1.1.3-py2.7.egg/sagenb/notebook/worksheet.py.
>>   
>> In the line ~3145.
>> >
>> > def initialize_sage(self):
>> >   S = self.__sage 
>> >try: 
>> >from . import misc
>> > cmd = '''import base64 
>> > import sagenb.misc.support as _support_ 
>> > import sagenb.notebook.interact as _interact_ 
>> > # for setting current cell id  ''' 
>> > S.execute(cmd)
>> >
>> > I think 'cmd' is not be executed. If I put some error code in 
>> 'cmd', 

Re: [sage-support] The best practices for using SageNB in SagaMath 9.1?

[Xie]

Yes. If one people  edit the notebook  then the other's browser will auto 
refresh.  Not a very good experience, just works.


在2020年11月18日星期三 UTC+8 下午5:04:02 写道：

> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 2:42 AM Xie  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, but jupyterhub  does not supoort  real-time collaboration now 
>> though  roadmap  contains  this.
>
> there was no RTC (2+ people working on the same sheet in real time) in 
> sageNB either, if I recall right.
> The jupyter roadmap is via jupyterlab, I think.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 在2020年11月18日星期三 UTC+8 上午2:07:29 写道：
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 2:50 PM Xie  wrote:
>>>
 Yes.  I use  *Jupyter* *Notebook*   myself. But  I need share with 
 other people sometimes.  And  *Jupyter* Notebook*  does not* provide a 
 server mode to make the others register an  account.  
>>>
>>>
>>> what you need is 
>>> https://jupyterhub.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>>>
>>> Here are SageMath-specific instructions: 
>>> https://opendreamkit.org/2018/10/17/jupyterhub-docker/
>>> see also 
>>> https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/trouble-getting-sagemath-up-and-running-solved/1354
>>> (there conda is recommended, and perhaps it is indeed the quickest way 
>>> to get everything set up)
>>>
>>> The SageMath docs on this are not complete, but there is work being done 
>>> on it:
>>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30476
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
 Most students use Windows, which is not very friendly to SageMath.   I 
 also tried Cocalc in  Docker. Its UI   is a bit complicated for 
 *newbie*.
 In addition, Ubuntu 18.04 and Archlinux can run SageMath 8.9 without 
 problems.  Now I use  SageMath 8.9 on 
 a Ubuntu 18.04   server to run SageNB.
 在2020年11月17日星期二 UTC+8 下午9:44:53 写道：

> Hi,
> SageMath never supported SageNB on Python3, it did not "drop" such a 
> support.
> SageNB has been *retired *since SageMath stopped supporting Python2 
> in version 9.2, and it is high time to switch to
> another notebook solution, while converters from SageNB are readily 
> available.
> This should not be a surprise, as a deprecation notice for SageNB has 
> been up since Sage 8.5 (i.e. in 2018), I think,
> see https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/pull/451 and 
> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25852
>
> Having said that, I could also point out that the latest Arch, as well 
> as the latest update of Ubuntu 18.04 have been released after Sage 9.1, 
> so 
> there is absolutely no guarantee that 9.1 would work on them, with Python 
> 2 
> or 3.
>
> HTH
> Dima
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 1:07 PM 漂  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,  I maintain a  SageNB server since 2011. But as you know, 
> SageMath has droped the support of SageNB on Python3. Now I want to run 
> SageNB in SagaMath 9.1. But I failed many times. 
> >
> > I follows the codes  by Samuel Lelièvre given  in
> >  
> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/53501/get-the-error-nameerror-name-_interact_-is-not-defined-when-run-sagenb/
>  
> .
> >
> > make configure 
> > ./configure --with-python=2 --enable-sagenb=yes
> >  make -s V=0
> >
> > I have tried the source "sage-9.1.tar.gz" and  the tag9.1 source in 
>  github. I test on Archl linux and Ubuntu 18.04.  I always get the 
> following error. 
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in 
>  File "_sage_input_6.py", line 8, in  
> _interact_.SAGE_CELL_ID=1 NameError: name '_interact_' is not defined
> >
> >
> > This problem may be caused by the codes in 
> sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sagenb-1.1.3-py2.7.egg/sagenb/notebook/worksheet.py.
>   
> In the line ~3145.
> >
> > def initialize_sage(self):
> >   S = self.__sage 
> >try: 
> >from . import misc
> > cmd = '''import base64 
> > import sagenb.misc.support as _support_ 
> > import sagenb.notebook.interact as _interact_ 
> > # for setting current cell id  ''' 
> > S.execute(cmd)
> >
> > I think 'cmd' is not be executed. If I put some error code in 'cmd', 
> there were nothing happened.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [sage-support] The best practices for using SageNB in SagaMath 9.1?

[Dima Pasechnik]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 2:42 AM Xie  wrote:

> Thanks, but jupyterhub  does not supoort  real-time collaboration now
> though  roadmap  contains  this.

there was no RTC (2+ people working on the same sheet in real time) in
sageNB either, if I recall right.
The jupyter roadmap is via jupyterlab, I think.



>
>
>
> 在2020年11月18日星期三 UTC+8 上午2:07:29 写道：
>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 2:50 PM Xie  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes.  I use  *Jupyter* *Notebook*   myself. But  I need share with
>>> other people sometimes.  And  *Jupyter* Notebook*  does not* provide a
>>> server mode to make the others register an  account.
>>
>>
>> what you need is
>> https://jupyterhub.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>>
>> Here are SageMath-specific instructions:
>> https://opendreamkit.org/2018/10/17/jupyterhub-docker/
>> see also
>> https://discourse.jupyter.org/t/trouble-getting-sagemath-up-and-running-solved/1354
>> (there conda is recommended, and perhaps it is indeed the quickest way to
>> get everything set up)
>>
>> The SageMath docs on this are not complete, but there is work being done
>> on it:
>> https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30476
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Most students use Windows, which is not very friendly to SageMath.   I
>>> also tried Cocalc in  Docker. Its UI   is a bit complicated for *newbie*
>>> .
>>> In addition, Ubuntu 18.04 and Archlinux can run SageMath 8.9 without
>>> problems.  Now I use  SageMath 8.9 on
>>> a Ubuntu 18.04   server to run SageNB.
>>> 在2020年11月17日星期二 UTC+8 下午9:44:53 写道：
>>>
 Hi,
 SageMath never supported SageNB on Python3, it did not "drop" such a
 support.
 SageNB has been *retired *since SageMath stopped supporting Python2 in
 version 9.2, and it is high time to switch to
 another notebook solution, while converters from SageNB are readily
 available.
 This should not be a surprise, as a deprecation notice for SageNB has
 been up since Sage 8.5 (i.e. in 2018), I think,
 see https://github.com/sagemath/sagenb/pull/451 and
 https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25852

 Having said that, I could also point out that the latest Arch, as well
 as the latest update of Ubuntu 18.04 have been released after Sage 9.1, so
 there is absolutely no guarantee that 9.1 would work on them, with Python 2
 or 3.

 HTH
 Dima

 On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 1:07 PM 漂  wrote:
 >
 > Hi,  I maintain a  SageNB server since 2011. But as you know,
 SageMath has droped the support of SageNB on Python3. Now I want to run
 SageNB in SagaMath 9.1. But I failed many times.
 >
 > I follows the codes  by Samuel Lelièvre given  in
 >
 https://ask.sagemath.org/question/53501/get-the-error-nameerror-name-_interact_-is-not-defined-when-run-sagenb/
 .
 >
 > make configure
 > ./configure --with-python=2 --enable-sagenb=yes
 >  make -s V=0
 >
 > I have tried the source "sage-9.1.tar.gz" and  the tag9.1 source in
  github. I test on Archl linux and Ubuntu 18.04.  I always get the
 following error.
 >
 > Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in
  File "_sage_input_6.py", line 8, in 
 _interact_.SAGE_CELL_ID=1 NameError: name '_interact_' is not defined
 >
 >
 > This problem may be caused by the codes in
 sage/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sagenb-1.1.3-py2.7.egg/sagenb/notebook/worksheet.py.
 In the line ~3145.
 >
 > def initialize_sage(self):
 >   S = self.__sage
 >try:
 >from . import misc
 > cmd = '''import base64
 > import sagenb.misc.support as _support_
 > import sagenb.notebook.interact as _interact_
 > # for setting current cell id  '''
 > S.execute(cmd)
 >
 > I think 'cmd' is not be executed. If I put some error code in 'cmd',
 there were nothing happened.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
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