[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-05-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori


On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:40:32 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:33:22 AM UTC-4, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
>>
>> http://superuser.com/questions/360236/why-is-system-listening-on-port-8000
>
>
> My money is on the following answer posted on the above ask page: "There 
> are a few trojans / backdoors that use 8000, so perhaps booting an 
> Antivirus disk and doing a full scan would be a good idea."
>
> If you can't figure out what is binding port 8000 then you should take 
> your zombie offline before it sends out more spam.
>
 
You could also be too lazy to learn how to check what is listening on which 
port in Windows and also have a legitimate program that is already 
listening to that port... 
For example some maintenance software from your laptop vendor (as the Sony 
VAIO stuff mentioned on the same page).

In fact I would put my money on this because I had the same behavior on my 
laptop a long time ago and have little chance to have any trojan or 
malicious stuff on it because the first thing I used to do when I booted 
into windows was to update it and I never installed anything exotic except 
for VLC.
And I definitely had a bunch of Lenovo crappy software installed by default 
and which would do plenty of stuff I was not even aware of.
You could argue that such software is actually malware.


On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:40:32 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:33:22 AM UTC-4, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
>>
>> http://superuser.com/questions/360236/why-is-system-listening-on-port-8000
>
>
> My money is on the following answer posted on the above ask page: "There 
> are a few trojans / backdoors that use 8000, so perhaps booting an 
> Antivirus disk and doing a full scan would be a good idea."
>
> If you can't figure out what is binding port 8000 then you should take 
> your zombie offline before it sends out more spam.
>
>
>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-05-09 Thread Volker Braun
On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:33:22 AM UTC-4, Jean-Pierre Flori wrote:
>
> http://superuser.com/questions/360236/why-is-system-listening-on-port-8000


My money is on the following answer posted on the above ask page: "There 
are a few trojans / backdoors that use 8000, so perhaps booting an 
Antivirus disk and doing a full scan would be a good idea."

If you can't figure out what is binding port 8000 then you should take your 
zombie offline before it sends out more spam.


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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-05-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
And I think that the port 8000 was dysfunctional because some service 
already listened on that port (I don't have the computer at hand anymore so 
cannot check...)
as suggested by this result from a simple google query:
http://superuser.com/questions/360236/why-is-system-listening-on-port-8000

On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:06:31 PM UTC+2, Matthias L wrote:
>
> Dear group,
>
> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>
> Installation guide
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
>
> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>
> Some ideas?
>
> Thank you, Matthias
>
>
On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:06:31 PM UTC+2, Matthias L wrote:
>
> Dear group,
>
> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>
> Installation guide
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
>
> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>
> Some ideas?
>
> Thank you, Matthias
>
>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-05-09 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
Today at some Sage meeting in Paris, we encountered this problem once more 
with Sage 4.7.2 vbox image within Windows 7.
The image was correctly (or seemingly correctly) preconfigured with 8000 on 
the outside pointing toward 8000 on the inside and  into 22.

Once more it was possible to ssh from the outside into the inside (using 
putty and port  as expected).
Nonetheless accessing localhost:8000 or 127.0.0.1:8000 gave a "Not found" 
error.

After some random stupid ideas, changing the port forwarding of Virtualbox 
to redirect  (a random good looking number which has no special reason 
to be in use or forbidden) from the outside to 8000 inside the virtual 
machine solved the problem!
Don't ask me why Windows 7 does not like the 8000 port... nor why it 
preferred the  one.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:06:31 PM UTC+2, Matthias L wrote:
>
> Dear group,
>
> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>
> Installation guide
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
>
> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>
> Some ideas?
>
> Thank you, Matthias
>
>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-04-18 Thread emil


 > If I make it bridged, what is the IP address I'd use?

stop the sage notebook server (with Ctr-C) and type "ifconfig". This should 
show you your IP address on the network.

It should also show in the startup message of the notebook server.

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-04-18 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
There is some Sage meeting this afternoon in Paris.
I have a Windows 7 installation on my laptop, I'll give a VirtualBox 
installation a try, maybe I'll be more lucky than last time.
That was particularly painful to have people ready to try Sage on their 
computer at a previous meeting, but being unable to connect to the Sage 
notebook server running inside the virtual machine.

By the way, I have had no problems running a notebook server within a 
VirtualBox virtual machine on a Debian guest, and having a dozen of 
students connecting to it from distant hosts...

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:49:01 PM UTC+2, Volker Braun wrote:
>
> Yes, except that any machine on the LAN can act as a dhcp server. Not just 
> the VM host.
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Robert wrote:
>>
>> OK. So if my Windows machine isn't also a DHCP server for the Sage 
>> Virtualbox, there will be nothing. Good to know. Thanks!
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Volker Braun wrote:
>>
>>> If you set the networking to bridged the IP address of the virtual 
>>> machine will be determined by dhcp. If you don't have a dhcp server, it 
>>> will not set up networking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Robert wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06:31 AM UTC-4, Matthias L wrote:
 > Dear group,
 > 
 > I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation 
 guide linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console 
 window as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if 
 I do so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
 > 
 > Installation guide
 > http://wiki.sagemath.org/**SageAppliance
 > 
 > Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
 > 
 > Some ideas?
 > 
 > Thank you, Matthias

 I also am stuck, but my problem is a Virtualbox problem. I have 
 Sage-4.8 running, but I don't know how to see it from another computer. If 
 I have it to NAT I can see the notebook on my PC. If I make it bridged, 
 what is the IP address I'd use? If it were local I'd use 
 http://localhost:8000. My machine has a fixed IP. Do I use 
 aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:8000? That isn't working for me. Do you have any 
 suggestions?

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-04-17 Thread Volker Braun
Yes, except that any machine on the LAN can act as a dhcp server. Not just 
the VM host.


On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:45:05 PM UTC-4, Robert wrote:
>
> OK. So if my Windows machine isn't also a DHCP server for the Sage 
> Virtualbox, there will be nothing. Good to know. Thanks!
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Volker Braun wrote:
>
>> If you set the networking to bridged the IP address of the virtual 
>> machine will be determined by dhcp. If you don't have a dhcp server, it 
>> will not set up networking.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Robert wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06:31 AM UTC-4, Matthias L wrote:
>>> > Dear group,
>>> > 
>>> > I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation 
>>> guide linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console 
>>> window as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if 
>>> I do so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>>> > 
>>> > Installation guide
>>> > http://wiki.sagemath.org/**SageAppliance
>>> > 
>>> > Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>>> > 
>>> > Some ideas?
>>> > 
>>> > Thank you, Matthias
>>>
>>> I also am stuck, but my problem is a Virtualbox problem. I have Sage-4.8 
>>> running, but I don't know how to see it from another computer. If I have it 
>>> to NAT I can see the notebook on my PC. If I make it bridged, what is the 
>>> IP address I'd use? If it were local I'd use http://localhost:8000. My 
>>> machine has a fixed IP. Do I use aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:8000? That isn't working 
>>> for me. Do you have any suggestions?
>>>
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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-04-17 Thread Robert Blanchette
OK. So if my Windows machine isn't also a DHCP server for the Sage
Virtualbox, there will be nothing. Good to know. Thanks!

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Volker Braun  wrote:

> If you set the networking to bridged the IP address of the virtual machine
> will be determined by dhcp. If you don't have a dhcp server, it will not
> set up networking.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Robert wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06:31 AM UTC-4, Matthias L wrote:
>> > Dear group,
>> >
>> > I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation
>> guide linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console
>> window as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if
>> I do so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>> >
>> > Installation guide
>> > http://wiki.sagemath.org/**SageAppliance
>> >
>> > Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>> >
>> > Some ideas?
>> >
>> > Thank you, Matthias
>>
>> I also am stuck, but my problem is a Virtualbox problem. I have Sage-4.8
>> running, but I don't know how to see it from another computer. If I have it
>> to NAT I can see the notebook on my PC. If I make it bridged, what is the
>> IP address I'd use? If it were local I'd use http://localhost:8000. My
>> machine has a fixed IP. Do I use aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:8000? That isn't working
>> for me. Do you have any suggestions?
>>
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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-04-17 Thread Volker Braun
If you set the networking to bridged the IP address of the virtual machine 
will be determined by dhcp. If you don't have a dhcp server, it will not 
set up networking.



On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:30:04 PM UTC-4, Robert wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06:31 AM UTC-4, Matthias L wrote:
> > Dear group,
> > 
> > I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
> > 
> > Installation guide
> > http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
> > 
> > Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
> > 
> > Some ideas?
> > 
> > Thank you, Matthias
>
> I also am stuck, but my problem is a Virtualbox problem. I have Sage-4.8 
> running, but I don't know how to see it from another computer. If I have it 
> to NAT I can see the notebook on my PC. If I make it bridged, what is the 
> IP address I'd use? If it were local I'd use http://localhost:8000. My 
> machine has a fixed IP. Do I use aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:8000? That isn't working 
> for me. Do you have any suggestions?
>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-04-17 Thread Robert
On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:06:31 AM UTC-4, Matthias L wrote:
> Dear group,
> 
> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window as 
> shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do so, I 
> can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
> 
> Installation guide
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
> 
> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
> 
> Some ideas?
> 
> Thank you, Matthias

I also am stuck, but my problem is a Virtualbox problem. I have Sage-4.8 
running, but I don't know how to see it from another computer. If I have it to 
NAT I can see the notebook on my PC. If I make it bridged, what is the IP 
address I'd use? If it were local I'd use http://localhost:8000. My machine has 
a fixed IP. Do I use aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:8000? That isn't working for me. Do you 
have any suggestions?

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-03-29 Thread Volker Braun
When you get the 404 error, there is usually some fine print about which 
server replied with the error. Maybe that'll give you some hint of what is 
going on.



On Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:19:05 PM UTC+1, Matthias L wrote:
>
> No, http://127.0.0.1:8000 doesn't work either ... as far as I know I'm 
> not running a a web server ... maybe I should run a virus check instead...
>
> Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012 15:12:03 UTC+2 schrieb Volker Braun:
>>
>> Does http://127.0.0.1:8000 work?
>>
>> You are either running a web server on localhost:8000 already or your 
>> system is resolving localhost to a non-local ip. In the latter case you 
>> probably have a spyware/virus problem. Since you'll have to reinstall, why 
>> not try Linux? ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:03:30 PM UTC+1, emil wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe you try to change the "network settings" of Virtual Box from "NAT" 
>>> to "Bridged Adapter". Your VirtualBox session will get an ip adress like 
>>> any other machine on the LAN.
>>>
>>
>> Don't do that unless you are aware of the security implications. In any 
>> case it won't help with your problem.
>>
>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-03-29 Thread Matthias L
No, http://127.0.0.1:8000 doesn't work either ... as far as I know I'm not 
running a a web server ... maybe I should run a virus check instead...

Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012 15:12:03 UTC+2 schrieb Volker Braun:
>
> Does http://127.0.0.1:8000 work?
>
> You are either running a web server on localhost:8000 already or your 
> system is resolving localhost to a non-local ip. In the latter case you 
> probably have a spyware/virus problem. Since you'll have to reinstall, why 
> not try Linux? ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:03:30 PM UTC+1, emil wrote:
>>
>> Maybe you try to change the "network settings" of Virtual Box from "NAT" 
>> to "Bridged Adapter". Your VirtualBox session will get an ip adress like 
>> any other machine on the LAN.
>>
>
> Don't do that unless you are aware of the security implications. In any 
> case it won't help with your problem.
>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-03-29 Thread Volker Braun
Does http://127.0.0.1:8000 work?

You are either running a web server on localhost:8000 already or your 
system is resolving localhost to a non-local ip. In the latter case you 
probably have a spyware/virus problem. Since you'll have to reinstall, why 
not try Linux? ;-)





On Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:03:30 PM UTC+1, emil wrote:
>
> Maybe you try to change the "network settings" of Virtual Box from "NAT" 
> to "Bridged Adapter". Your VirtualBox session will get an ip adress like 
> any other machine on the LAN.
>

Don't do that unless you are aware of the security implications. In any 
case it won't help with your problem.

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-03-29 Thread emil


Am Mittwoch, 28. März 2012 14:06:31 UTC+1 schrieb Matthias L:
>
> Dear group,
>
> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>
> Installation guide
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
>
> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>
> Some ideas?
>
> Thank you, Matthias
>

Maybe you try to change the "network settings" of Virtual Box from "NAT" to 
"Bridged Adapter". Your VirtualBox session will get an ip adress like any 
other machine on the LAN.

Then you connect to the sage notebook with http://ip-adress:8000



 

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-03-29 Thread Maarten Derickx
Actually the 404 error sais that you alreade got past the firewall and have 
reached the server so the trouble should be somewhere else indeed.
Does the 404 error say more (i.e. does it say what is not found?). A 
screenshot might be usefull.

p.s. I assume that you don't already have your own webserver running on 
localhost:8000 ;)

Le mercredi 28 mars 2012 15:06:31 UTC+2, Matthias L a écrit :
>
> Dear group,
>
> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>
> Installation guide
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
>
> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>
> Some ideas?
>
> Thank you, Matthias
>
>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-03-28 Thread Matthias L
I've tried, but the firewall settings don't have any influence, and also 
the port forwarding should be correctly configured.

Am Mittwoch, 28. März 2012 16:56:36 UTC+2 schrieb Jean-Pierre Flori:
>
> I think I had the same problem although the VirtualBox port forwarding was 
> correctly configured and I could not resolve it in the little time I had.
> My late conclusion was that maybe the Windows firewall is blocking the 
> connection (even though it's a local one...) ?
> Could you try connecting to the Sage notebook after disabling the firewall 
> ?
> It's not a proper solution but my give us some hint.
>
> The other solution is to wait for a Sage in VirtualBox on Windows :)
>
> On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:06:31 PM UTC+2, Matthias L wrote:
>>
>> Dear group,
>>
>> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
>> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
>> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
>> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>>
>> Installation guide
>> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
>>
>> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>>
>> Some ideas?
>>
>> Thank you, Matthias
>>
>>

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[sage-support] Re: Sage installation on windows : browser cannot connect

2012-03-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
I think I had the same problem although the VirtualBox port forwarding was 
correctly configured and I could not resolve it in the little time I had.
My late conclusion was that maybe the Windows firewall is blocking the 
connection (even though it's a local one...) ?
Could you try connecting to the Sage notebook after disabling the firewall ?
It's not a proper solution but my give us some hint.

The other solution is to wait for a Sage in VirtualBox on Windows :)

On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:06:31 PM UTC+2, Matthias L wrote:
>
> Dear group,
>
> I've tried to install Sage on Windows 7 following the installation guide 
> linked below. It seems to work until step 4, I get the same console window 
> as shown in the screen shot there ("Open your web browser"). But if I do 
> so, I can't connect to Sage and receive a 404 error instead.
>
> Installation guide
> http://wiki.sagemath.org/SageAppliance
>
> Virtual Box 4.1.10, Sage 4.8
>
> Some ideas?
>
> Thank you, Matthias
>
>

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