[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-11 Thread Jason Grout

On 10/11/10 1:42 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:

On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Chris Seberinocseber...@gmail.com  wrote:

What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie
students?

They'll be lost if the instructions are complicated.

Possible to wrap a VMWare + Ubuntu + Sage blob into one big Windows
exe file that requires no set up?


Depending on how technical you are, the easiest way by far is to set
up a Sage server for them yourself, and then all they need on their
windows boxes is a web browser and a password.



That is my solution for my students.  Then I can also upgrade/customize 
features as needed for the class.  Plus students can share worksheets 
with me to turn them in.  I can also easily share class worksheets 
with them.


Jason

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[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-11 Thread Jason Grout

On 10/11/2010 02:08 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 5:30 AM, A. Jorge Garciacalcp...@aol.com  wrote:

Depending on how technical you are, the easiest way by far is to set
up a Sage server for them yourself, and then all they need on their
windows boxes is a web browser and a password.


I tried this, and I'm pretty techie, but found it was a huge hassle compared
with just letting my students make an account on one of the SAGE servers
online.  I have a lot of other hardware/software/firmware/networking issues
to deal with, this way I have one less headache!


I've found pointing people to the public notebooks gives a less than
ideal experience, given how overloaded those things often are.



sagenb.org, in particular, seemed to be really bad last week.  Having 
your own Sage server seems to be the best of both worlds.


Jason


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Re: [sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

On 10/10/10 04:19 AM, kcrisman wrote:


Yeah, it's still really annoying to get the VMWare itself, though, and
requires giving out semi-personal information, which is perhaps not
what one would want to get students interested in mathematical
software...

I expect students have to do the same to run their copies of Mathematica.

I doubt I'm the only person who types random collections of letters/numbers for 
name, address, phone numbers etc.


Dave

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[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-10 Thread Chris Seberino
On Oct 9, 7:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
 [1]http://sagemath.org/download-windows.html

That link has a WinZip'd VMWare blob that works fine.  I didn't even
read the directions...I just double clicked on binaries in the
extracted directory until a VMWare Linux virtual session appeared with
a Sage icon.

That is more than I was expecting and more than adequate.

We are all high powered computer junkies but I'm afraid my students
may get stuck on how to use WinZip and other minor details.  If no one
has made a little YouTube video I may make one on how to perform these
few minimal steps.

Great work!

Chris

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[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-10 Thread Chris Seberino

 On Oct 9, 7:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:

Oh wait.  I see your point now.  *I* didn't have to install VMWare
because I probably installed it a long time ago.  I assumed that meant
you didn't need to install VMWare anymore.  Yeaa video would be
nice for that extra step too.

cs

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[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-10 Thread fitzsnaggle
You guys can suggest Pythonxy for windows. It doesn't have all the
same modules I've heard, but it is based on scipy and numpy, and
installs as an exe. It does require a little more knowledge of python
to get started, but not much.

On Oct 10, 8:28 am, Chris Seberino cseber...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Oct 9, 7:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:

 Oh wait.  I see your point now.  *I* didn't have to install VMWare
 because I probably installed it a long time ago.  I assumed that meant
 you didn't need to install VMWare anymore.  Yeaa video would be
 nice for that extra step too.

 cs

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[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-09 Thread Jason Grout

On 10/9/10 9:53 AM, Chris Seberino wrote:

What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie
students?

They'll be lost if the instructions are complicated.

Possible to wrap a VMWare + Ubuntu + Sage blob into one big Windows
exe file that requires no set up?



Since we can't redistribute VMWare, they'll have to download and install 
VMWare themselves.  However, once that is done, it should be simply a 
matter of downloading the Sage VMWare image [1] and double-clicking on it.


Jason

[1] http://sagemath.org/download-windows.html



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[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?

2010-10-09 Thread kcrisman


On Oct 9, 8:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote:
 On 10/9/10 9:53 AM, Chris Seberino wrote:

  What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie
  students?

  They'll be lost if the instructions are complicated.

  Possible to wrap a VMWare + Ubuntu + Sage blob into one big Windows
  exe file that requires no set up?

 Since we can't redistribute VMWare, they'll have to download and install
 VMWare themselves.  However, once that is done, it should be simply a
 matter of downloading the Sage VMWare image [1] and double-clicking on it.

Yeah, it's still really annoying to get the VMWare itself, though, and
requires giving out semi-personal information, which is perhaps not
what one would want to get students interested in mathematical
software...

Anyone know what the latest status of the Cygwin port is?  That is to
say, there exists something that works (see
http://groups.google.com/group/sage-windows/browse_thread/thread/ca02b59099bda7dc)
but apparently it's not yet ready/possible to distribute...

- kcrisman

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