[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
On 10/11/10 1:42 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Chris Seberinocseber...@gmail.com wrote: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students? They'll be lost if the instructions are complicated. Possible to wrap a VMWare + Ubuntu + Sage blob into one big Windows exe file that requires no set up? Depending on how technical you are, the easiest way by far is to set up a Sage server for them yourself, and then all they need on their windows boxes is a web browser and a password. That is my solution for my students. Then I can also upgrade/customize features as needed for the class. Plus students can share worksheets with me to turn them in. I can also easily share class worksheets with them. Jason -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
On 10/11/2010 02:08 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 5:30 AM, A. Jorge Garciacalcp...@aol.com wrote: Depending on how technical you are, the easiest way by far is to set up a Sage server for them yourself, and then all they need on their windows boxes is a web browser and a password. I tried this, and I'm pretty techie, but found it was a huge hassle compared with just letting my students make an account on one of the SAGE servers online. I have a lot of other hardware/software/firmware/networking issues to deal with, this way I have one less headache! I've found pointing people to the public notebooks gives a less than ideal experience, given how overloaded those things often are. sagenb.org, in particular, seemed to be really bad last week. Having your own Sage server seems to be the best of both worlds. Jason -- Jason Grout -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
On 10/10/10 04:19 AM, kcrisman wrote: Yeah, it's still really annoying to get the VMWare itself, though, and requires giving out semi-personal information, which is perhaps not what one would want to get students interested in mathematical software... I expect students have to do the same to run their copies of Mathematica. I doubt I'm the only person who types random collections of letters/numbers for name, address, phone numbers etc. Dave -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
On Oct 9, 7:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: [1]http://sagemath.org/download-windows.html That link has a WinZip'd VMWare blob that works fine. I didn't even read the directions...I just double clicked on binaries in the extracted directory until a VMWare Linux virtual session appeared with a Sage icon. That is more than I was expecting and more than adequate. We are all high powered computer junkies but I'm afraid my students may get stuck on how to use WinZip and other minor details. If no one has made a little YouTube video I may make one on how to perform these few minimal steps. Great work! Chris -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
On Oct 9, 7:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Oh wait. I see your point now. *I* didn't have to install VMWare because I probably installed it a long time ago. I assumed that meant you didn't need to install VMWare anymore. Yeaa video would be nice for that extra step too. cs -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
You guys can suggest Pythonxy for windows. It doesn't have all the same modules I've heard, but it is based on scipy and numpy, and installs as an exe. It does require a little more knowledge of python to get started, but not much. On Oct 10, 8:28 am, Chris Seberino cseber...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 9, 7:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Oh wait. I see your point now. *I* didn't have to install VMWare because I probably installed it a long time ago. I assumed that meant you didn't need to install VMWare anymore. Yeaa video would be nice for that extra step too. cs -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
On 10/9/10 9:53 AM, Chris Seberino wrote: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students? They'll be lost if the instructions are complicated. Possible to wrap a VMWare + Ubuntu + Sage blob into one big Windows exe file that requires no set up? Since we can't redistribute VMWare, they'll have to download and install VMWare themselves. However, once that is done, it should be simply a matter of downloading the Sage VMWare image [1] and double-clicking on it. Jason [1] http://sagemath.org/download-windows.html -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students?
On Oct 9, 8:24 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: On 10/9/10 9:53 AM, Chris Seberino wrote: What's easiest way to get Sage running on Windows for non-techie students? They'll be lost if the instructions are complicated. Possible to wrap a VMWare + Ubuntu + Sage blob into one big Windows exe file that requires no set up? Since we can't redistribute VMWare, they'll have to download and install VMWare themselves. However, once that is done, it should be simply a matter of downloading the Sage VMWare image [1] and double-clicking on it. Yeah, it's still really annoying to get the VMWare itself, though, and requires giving out semi-personal information, which is perhaps not what one would want to get students interested in mathematical software... Anyone know what the latest status of the Cygwin port is? That is to say, there exists something that works (see http://groups.google.com/group/sage-windows/browse_thread/thread/ca02b59099bda7dc) but apparently it's not yet ready/possible to distribute... - kcrisman -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org