Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-03-08 Thread Peter K.H. Gragert
Some other notices:
I saved the Puppy files to HD D:
A copy to a USB -stick
renamed the files on D: because sometimes something goes wrong with shutting
down and then starting Puppy
from USB has changed (e.g. nearly all desktopitems have vanished)
So saving sage worksheets and in case of emergency I have good Puppy files
on D: copy again to USB and
the damage is resolved.
(Clear enough described?)
Greets
  Peter


2010/2/25 Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com

 Oh, wireless would be much more convenient ;-)   so I will look at the
 given link and will watch, if there will be
 a try to make it directly (ISO) ok ..

 2010/2/24 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com


 On Feb 24, 12:40 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  By the way, via a ethernet-kabel I succeeded to acces the internet ;-).
  Peter
 
  2010/2/21 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it
   brighter.
 
This can also be done in the MenuSetupXorg Video WizardGamma
Calibration
 
   Hi Berkin,
 
   I have to correct my answer, obviously the Gamma calibration is not
   working as expected. I will try to fix this but can't promise.
   There is a possible fix with the programm xgamma (I tried it, worked
   for me)
 
  http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29447
   cheers,
   emil
 
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 Hi peter,
 Sorry for the hazzle, if you have nerves left for tinkering:
 Howto wifi from commandline
 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469

 Any  problems else, I might release a bugfix version until end of next
 week, so please let me know.
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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-24 Thread Peter K.H. Gragert
By the way, via a ethernet-kabel I succeeded to acces the internet ;-).
Peter

2010/2/21 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com



   5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it
 brighter.
 
  This can also be done in the MenuSetupXorg Video WizardGamma
  Calibration
 
 
 Hi Berkin,

 I have to correct my answer, obviously the Gamma calibration is not
 working as expected. I will try to fix this but can't promise.
 There is a possible fix with the programm xgamma (I tried it, worked
 for me)

 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29447
 cheers,
 emil

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-24 Thread Peter K.H. Gragert
Oh, wireless would be much more convenient ;-)   so I will look at the given
link and will watch, if there will be
a try to make it directly (ISO) ok ..

2010/2/24 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com


 On Feb 24, 12:40 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  By the way, via a ethernet-kabel I succeeded to acces the internet ;-).
  Peter
 
  2010/2/21 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it
   brighter.
 
This can also be done in the MenuSetupXorg Video WizardGamma
Calibration
 
   Hi Berkin,
 
   I have to correct my answer, obviously the Gamma calibration is not
   working as expected. I will try to fix this but can't promise.
   There is a possible fix with the programm xgamma (I tried it, worked
   for me)
 
  http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29447
   cheers,
   emil
 
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 Hi peter,
 Sorry for the hazzle, if you have nerves left for tinkering:
 Howto wifi from commandline
 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469

 Any  problems else, I might release a bugfix version until end of next
 week, so please let me know.
 emil

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-21 Thread Peter K.H. Gragert
Hi,
I allowed to save pup-431.sfs as well as a  pupsave*.2fs and now booting
(just the default)
works well and because I did in /etc/keyboard (or so) the US-keyboard, that
is OK too now ;-)

A problem is the WLAN , it sees it,seems to get an IP, but the encryption
key (router says:  WPA-PSK) and those other parameters
as 'managed' 'open' (radio buttons) give too much possibilities I will try
later again ...

Otherwise It looks 'great'
Indeed, easy access to the C: HD to exchange info ... nice.
snip old question and answers

Greets
Peter

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-20 Thread Peter K.H. Gragert
Trying now Alex link ...

2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com

 I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB?
 Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght.
 So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose
 Maybe share it at another 'host'?
 Greetings
 Peter

 On 17 feb, 20:40, emil emil.widm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Jeff,
  sorry I wanted to post this on sage-devel originally and removed it,
  but then had no time to repost at sage devel (had to get membership
  first). Also sorry about any inconvenience with this download server.
  H. Schilly contacted me and maybe it will be available on the sage
  mirror soon.
 
  I append the original post, but I think this thread should be in sage-
  devel. I could need someone willing to try/test it
  and give feedback.
 
  regards
  emil
 
  ORIGINAL POST:
 
  Hello,
 
  I created a Live CD (or USB install) for Sage based on the small Puppy
  Linux distribution.
  Compared to the ubuntu based sage42lwlcd.iso there are more
  applications, Sage Doc and Tutorial.
  Also there is more bling i.e. nicer desktop appearance.
 
  Download:
 http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso
  685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f
 
  Since puppy linux is designed to be small and run well on low spec
  computers i figured
  it should be a good base platform for a big package like sage. I
  tested it on
  1 GB, 1.6Ghz and it is quite responsive and workflow seems to be ok.
 
  I am no professional in the field and this is just a labor of love,
  but I think
  for some this alternative might be useful. It would be great if
  anybody could test it.
  A quick and easy method i.e is UNetbootin (no CD required).
 
  thanks in advance
  emil
 
  PS:
  I posted also on the PLinux Forum (screenshot there)
 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52582
  and in the sage-edu list.
 
  On Feb 17, 2:43 pm, Jeff Post j_p...@pacbell.net wrote: On Wednesday
 17 February 2010 03:24, emil wrote:
 
Download:
   http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso
685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f
 
   If possible, please do not post your file on a system that requires a
 valid
   email address from the user in order to download. Many object to
 exposing
   themselves to possible spammers.
 
   Jeff

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-20 Thread Peter K.H. Gragert
It works (this one: http://aghitza.org/misc/SageLivePupv02.iso  on Vista)
and seems to be very pretty for Windows users.
But, at this moment I do not know enough about Puppy Linux ...it seems that
one can save the state on
a NTFS-drive ...(but yet very afraid to let it to be done)

It started with a GERMAN keyboard, but I could  be changed to US-keyboard
(though I had to gamble, Puppy-newbie ;-) ).

Without giving the option=RAM, it seamed to load and load and load, such
that I stopped (ctrl-alt-del seemed to do that) ... and using F2 to see
options ...

A friend of mine is interested and this seems to be a perfect way for an
XP-PC...

Peter




2010/2/20 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com

 On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Trying now Alex link ...
 
  2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com
 
   I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB?
   Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght.
   So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose
   Maybe share it at another 'host'?
   Greetings
   Peter

 Hello Peter,

 Thank's to Harald Schilly SageLivev02.ios is now mirrowed at the
 official Download servers!

 Link: http://www.sagemath.org/download-livecd.html

 However, I would be very happy about feedback concerning:

 * Bugs
 * Localisation (it should be asked at first boot, but it might not)
 * Hardware requirements (Processor, Memory - positiv and negativ
 experiances)
 * any Benchmarks
 * Is there something missing (i.e. the jsmath-fonts .. )

 and generally
 * suggestions and feedback

 thanks in advance
 emil

 Known Bugs:
 1)  Localisation menu is not called during first boot (german quertz
 keyboard loaded by default)
 Solve: Menu SetupMouse / Keyboard wizardAdvanced Xorg keyboard
 configurationKeyboard model YOUR MODEL,

 2) Wallpaper not stretched for different screen resolutions
 Solve MenuDesktopNathan Wallpaper Setter Choose STRETCHED Radio
 Button

 3) Notbook in Browser window give Page Load Error
 Solve: Wait till the sage server starts (in the console window) then
 press Button Try again.
 Comment: This should  happen only at first start after boot. If you
 have a slow computer it might happen always.
 In that case you could edit the script /usr/bin/sagen.sh . Change
 sleep 3 to a higher value (or lower if good machine).

 4) Menu-Fun-Jigsawpuzzle gives an error, because I removed a
 wallpaper.


 On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Trying now Alex link ...
 
  2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com
 
   I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB?
   Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght.
   So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose
   Maybe share it at another 'host'?
   Greetings
   Peter
 
   On 17 feb, 20:40, emil emil.widm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jeff,
sorry I wanted to post this on sage-devel originally and removed it,
but then had no time to repost at sage devel (had to get membership
first). Also sorry about any inconvenience with this download server.
H. Schilly contacted me and maybe it will be available on the sage
mirror soon.
 
I append the original post, but I think this thread should be in
 sage-
devel. I could need someone willing to try/test it
and give feedback.
 
regards
emil
 
ORIGINAL POST:
 
Hello,
 
I created a Live CD (or USB install) for Sage based on the small
 Puppy
Linux distribution.
Compared to the ubuntu based sage42lwlcd.iso there are more
applications, Sage Doc and Tutorial.
Also there is more bling i.e. nicer desktop appearance.
 
Download:
  http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso
685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f
 
Since puppy linux is designed to be small and run well on low spec
computers i figured
it should be a good base platform for a big package like sage. I
tested it on
1 GB, 1.6Ghz and it is quite responsive and workflow seems to be ok.
 
I am no professional in the field and this is just a labor of love,
but I think
for some this alternative might be useful. It would be great if
anybody could test it.
A quick and easy method i.e is UNetbootin (no CD required).
 
thanks in advance
emil
 
PS:
I posted also on the PLinux Forum (screenshot there)
  http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52582
and in the sage-edu list.
 
On Feb 17, 2:43 pm, Jeff Post j_p...@pacbell.net wrote: On
 Wednesday
   17 February 2010 03:24, emil wrote:
 
  Download:
 http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso
  685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f
 
 If possible, please do not post your file on a system that requires
 a
   valid
 email address from the user in order to download. Many object to
   exposing
 themselves to possible spammers.
 
 Jeff
 
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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-20 Thread Berkin Malkoc
Hi,

 2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com
 
   I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB?
   Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght.
   So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose
   Maybe share it at another 'host'?
   Greetings
   Peter



Alex link (http://aghitza.org/misc/SageLivePupv02.iso) worked fine.


Hello Peter,

 Thank's to Harald Schilly SageLivev02.ios is now mirrowed at the
 official Download servers!

 Link: http://www.sagemath.org/download-livecd.html

 However, I would be very happy about feedback concerning:

 * Bugs
 * Localisation (it should be asked at first boot, but it might not)
 * Hardware requirements (Processor, Memory - positiv and negativ
 experiances)
 * any Benchmarks
 * Is there something missing (i.e. the jsmath-fonts .. )

 and generally
 * suggestions and feedback


Thank you very much for this nice project; now it will be easier to impress
friends at the university about the capabilities of both SAGE and Linux. I
would like to share a couple of observations (of course these may have to do
only with Puppy itself):

1- Loading to RAM took quite a while although my machine can be considered
to be new. Maybe user can be urged to be patient.
2- SAGE worked without any problems. (Also, seeing LyX installed was a nice
surprise!)
3- I was not able to switch on touchpad clicking.
4- I was not able to connect to WEP secured wireless through none of the
connection wizards (there were two different). It seemed to get IP number
but no connection was actually established (I'm not an expert by the way!).
5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it brighter.

Regards,
Berkin

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-17 Thread Jeff Post
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 11:40, emil wrote:
 Hi Jeff,
 sorry I wanted to post this on sage-devel originally and removed it,
 but then had no time to repost at sage devel (had to get membership
 first). Also sorry about any inconvenience with this download server.
 H. Schilly contacted me and maybe it will be available on the sage
 mirror soon.

 I append the original post, but I think this thread should be in sage-
 devel. I could need someone willing to try/test it
 and give feedback.

 regards
 emil


I'd love to test it. Please let us know when and from where the iso file can 
be downloaded anonymously.

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)

2010-02-17 Thread Alex Ghitza
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:06:51 -0800, Jeff Post j_p...@pacbell.net wrote:
 I'd love to test it. Please let us know when and from where the iso file can 
 be downloaded anonymously.

Yes, that's pretty annoying.  I've gone through it, downloaded it and
posted it at

http://aghitza.org/misc/SageLivePupv02.iso

Here is the md5sum to check if the download is ok:
359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f

I'll leave this up until a copy makes it onto the official Sage pages.


Best,
Alex


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