Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
Some other notices: I saved the Puppy files to HD D: A copy to a USB -stick renamed the files on D: because sometimes something goes wrong with shutting down and then starting Puppy from USB has changed (e.g. nearly all desktopitems have vanished) So saving sage worksheets and in case of emergency I have good Puppy files on D: copy again to USB and the damage is resolved. (Clear enough described?) Greets Peter 2010/2/25 Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com Oh, wireless would be much more convenient ;-) so I will look at the given link and will watch, if there will be a try to make it directly (ISO) ok .. 2010/2/24 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com On Feb 24, 12:40 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, via a ethernet-kabel I succeeded to acces the internet ;-). Peter 2010/2/21 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com 5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it brighter. This can also be done in the MenuSetupXorg Video WizardGamma Calibration Hi Berkin, I have to correct my answer, obviously the Gamma calibration is not working as expected. I will try to fix this but can't promise. There is a possible fix with the programm xgamma (I tried it, worked for me) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29447 cheers, emil -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com sage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL:http://www.sagemath.org Hi peter, Sorry for the hazzle, if you have nerves left for tinkering: Howto wifi from commandline http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469 Any problems else, I might release a bugfix version until end of next week, so please let me know. emil -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
By the way, via a ethernet-kabel I succeeded to acces the internet ;-). Peter 2010/2/21 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com 5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it brighter. This can also be done in the MenuSetupXorg Video WizardGamma Calibration Hi Berkin, I have to correct my answer, obviously the Gamma calibration is not working as expected. I will try to fix this but can't promise. There is a possible fix with the programm xgamma (I tried it, worked for me) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29447 cheers, emil -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
Oh, wireless would be much more convenient ;-) so I will look at the given link and will watch, if there will be a try to make it directly (ISO) ok .. 2010/2/24 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com On Feb 24, 12:40 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, via a ethernet-kabel I succeeded to acces the internet ;-). Peter 2010/2/21 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com 5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it brighter. This can also be done in the MenuSetupXorg Video WizardGamma Calibration Hi Berkin, I have to correct my answer, obviously the Gamma calibration is not working as expected. I will try to fix this but can't promise. There is a possible fix with the programm xgamma (I tried it, worked for me) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29447 cheers, emil -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com sage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL:http://www.sagemath.org Hi peter, Sorry for the hazzle, if you have nerves left for tinkering: Howto wifi from commandline http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469 Any problems else, I might release a bugfix version until end of next week, so please let me know. emil -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
Hi, I allowed to save pup-431.sfs as well as a pupsave*.2fs and now booting (just the default) works well and because I did in /etc/keyboard (or so) the US-keyboard, that is OK too now ;-) A problem is the WLAN , it sees it,seems to get an IP, but the encryption key (router says: WPA-PSK) and those other parameters as 'managed' 'open' (radio buttons) give too much possibilities I will try later again ... Otherwise It looks 'great' Indeed, easy access to the C: HD to exchange info ... nice. snip old question and answers Greets Peter -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
Trying now Alex link ... 2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB? Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght. So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose Maybe share it at another 'host'? Greetings Peter On 17 feb, 20:40, emil emil.widm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeff, sorry I wanted to post this on sage-devel originally and removed it, but then had no time to repost at sage devel (had to get membership first). Also sorry about any inconvenience with this download server. H. Schilly contacted me and maybe it will be available on the sage mirror soon. I append the original post, but I think this thread should be in sage- devel. I could need someone willing to try/test it and give feedback. regards emil ORIGINAL POST: Hello, I created a Live CD (or USB install) for Sage based on the small Puppy Linux distribution. Compared to the ubuntu based sage42lwlcd.iso there are more applications, Sage Doc and Tutorial. Also there is more bling i.e. nicer desktop appearance. Download: http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso 685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f Since puppy linux is designed to be small and run well on low spec computers i figured it should be a good base platform for a big package like sage. I tested it on 1 GB, 1.6Ghz and it is quite responsive and workflow seems to be ok. I am no professional in the field and this is just a labor of love, but I think for some this alternative might be useful. It would be great if anybody could test it. A quick and easy method i.e is UNetbootin (no CD required). thanks in advance emil PS: I posted also on the PLinux Forum (screenshot there) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52582 and in the sage-edu list. On Feb 17, 2:43 pm, Jeff Post j_p...@pacbell.net wrote: On Wednesday 17 February 2010 03:24, emil wrote: Download: http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso 685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f If possible, please do not post your file on a system that requires a valid email address from the user in order to download. Many object to exposing themselves to possible spammers. Jeff -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comsage-support%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
It works (this one: http://aghitza.org/misc/SageLivePupv02.iso on Vista) and seems to be very pretty for Windows users. But, at this moment I do not know enough about Puppy Linux ...it seems that one can save the state on a NTFS-drive ...(but yet very afraid to let it to be done) It started with a GERMAN keyboard, but I could be changed to US-keyboard (though I had to gamble, Puppy-newbie ;-) ). Without giving the option=RAM, it seamed to load and load and load, such that I stopped (ctrl-alt-del seemed to do that) ... and using F2 to see options ... A friend of mine is interested and this seems to be a perfect way for an XP-PC... Peter 2010/2/20 emil emil.widm...@gmail.com On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com wrote: Trying now Alex link ... 2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB? Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght. So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose Maybe share it at another 'host'? Greetings Peter Hello Peter, Thank's to Harald Schilly SageLivev02.ios is now mirrowed at the official Download servers! Link: http://www.sagemath.org/download-livecd.html However, I would be very happy about feedback concerning: * Bugs * Localisation (it should be asked at first boot, but it might not) * Hardware requirements (Processor, Memory - positiv and negativ experiances) * any Benchmarks * Is there something missing (i.e. the jsmath-fonts .. ) and generally * suggestions and feedback thanks in advance emil Known Bugs: 1) Localisation menu is not called during first boot (german quertz keyboard loaded by default) Solve: Menu SetupMouse / Keyboard wizardAdvanced Xorg keyboard configurationKeyboard model YOUR MODEL, 2) Wallpaper not stretched for different screen resolutions Solve MenuDesktopNathan Wallpaper Setter Choose STRETCHED Radio Button 3) Notbook in Browser window give Page Load Error Solve: Wait till the sage server starts (in the console window) then press Button Try again. Comment: This should happen only at first start after boot. If you have a slow computer it might happen always. In that case you could edit the script /usr/bin/sagen.sh . Change sleep 3 to a higher value (or lower if good machine). 4) Menu-Fun-Jigsawpuzzle gives an error, because I removed a wallpaper. On Feb 20, 12:37 pm, Peter K.H. Gragert pkhgrag...@gmail.com wrote: Trying now Alex link ... 2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB? Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght. So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose Maybe share it at another 'host'? Greetings Peter On 17 feb, 20:40, emil emil.widm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeff, sorry I wanted to post this on sage-devel originally and removed it, but then had no time to repost at sage devel (had to get membership first). Also sorry about any inconvenience with this download server. H. Schilly contacted me and maybe it will be available on the sage mirror soon. I append the original post, but I think this thread should be in sage- devel. I could need someone willing to try/test it and give feedback. regards emil ORIGINAL POST: Hello, I created a Live CD (or USB install) for Sage based on the small Puppy Linux distribution. Compared to the ubuntu based sage42lwlcd.iso there are more applications, Sage Doc and Tutorial. Also there is more bling i.e. nicer desktop appearance. Download: http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso 685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f Since puppy linux is designed to be small and run well on low spec computers i figured it should be a good base platform for a big package like sage. I tested it on 1 GB, 1.6Ghz and it is quite responsive and workflow seems to be ok. I am no professional in the field and this is just a labor of love, but I think for some this alternative might be useful. It would be great if anybody could test it. A quick and easy method i.e is UNetbootin (no CD required). thanks in advance emil PS: I posted also on the PLinux Forum (screenshot there) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52582 and in the sage-edu list. On Feb 17, 2:43 pm, Jeff Post j_p...@pacbell.net wrote: On Wednesday 17 February 2010 03:24, emil wrote: Download: http://www.filehosting.org/file/details/113543/SageLivePupv02.iso 685 MB md5sum: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f If possible, please do not post your file on a system that requires a valid email address from the user in order to download. Many object to exposing themselves to possible spammers. Jeff -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
Hi, 2010/2/20 PKHG pkhgrag...@gmail.com I tried a download ... but got only 359 MB? Trying to burn, complained about not correct lenght. So the dowload is 'wrong' I suppose Maybe share it at another 'host'? Greetings Peter Alex link (http://aghitza.org/misc/SageLivePupv02.iso) worked fine. Hello Peter, Thank's to Harald Schilly SageLivev02.ios is now mirrowed at the official Download servers! Link: http://www.sagemath.org/download-livecd.html However, I would be very happy about feedback concerning: * Bugs * Localisation (it should be asked at first boot, but it might not) * Hardware requirements (Processor, Memory - positiv and negativ experiances) * any Benchmarks * Is there something missing (i.e. the jsmath-fonts .. ) and generally * suggestions and feedback Thank you very much for this nice project; now it will be easier to impress friends at the university about the capabilities of both SAGE and Linux. I would like to share a couple of observations (of course these may have to do only with Puppy itself): 1- Loading to RAM took quite a while although my machine can be considered to be new. Maybe user can be urged to be patient. 2- SAGE worked without any problems. (Also, seeing LyX installed was a nice surprise!) 3- I was not able to switch on touchpad clicking. 4- I was not able to connect to WEP secured wireless through none of the connection wizards (there were two different). It seemed to get IP number but no connection was actually established (I'm not an expert by the way!). 5- The screen was dim and I couldn't figure out how to make it brighter. Regards, Berkin -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
On Wednesday 17 February 2010 11:40, emil wrote: Hi Jeff, sorry I wanted to post this on sage-devel originally and removed it, but then had no time to repost at sage devel (had to get membership first). Also sorry about any inconvenience with this download server. H. Schilly contacted me and maybe it will be available on the sage mirror soon. I append the original post, but I think this thread should be in sage- devel. I could need someone willing to try/test it and give feedback. regards emil I'd love to test it. Please let us know when and from where the iso file can be downloaded anonymously. Thanks, Jeff -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Live CD (Alternativ based on Puppy Linux)
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:06:51 -0800, Jeff Post j_p...@pacbell.net wrote: I'd love to test it. Please let us know when and from where the iso file can be downloaded anonymously. Yes, that's pretty annoying. I've gone through it, downloaded it and posted it at http://aghitza.org/misc/SageLivePupv02.iso Here is the md5sum to check if the download is ok: 359f63129d4f3993bd890e4029b4d98f I'll leave this up until a copy makes it onto the official Sage pages. Best, Alex -- Alex Ghitza -- Lecturer in Mathematics -- The University of Melbourne -- Australia -- http://www.ms.unimelb.edu.au/~aghitza/ -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org