Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Mark Sturdy



You know, when I think back, Bob was one evil c*nt at times. (etc...)


Oh, shut up.  Yes he was utterly infuriating at times, and probably living 
in a complete fantasy world - all in all, a pretty silly man - but I've 
never seen why that makes him so worth getting wound up about.  My feeling 
on people STILL gnashing their teeth about the fact that he pissed various 
people about in the mid-90s, failed to make West Coast Computers bigger than 
Apple, and then made various things up in attempts to explain this, is the 
same as it was last time I left this list 3 years ago - vis, that they could 
possibly do to get out a bit more.  Get a grip, Gavin.


Mark

PS I agree, The Weekly is very good.

_
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp



Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Nev Young
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:40:13 +0100, Mark Sturdy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 And Frank Broughton...?
 
 We did find this one out. A Welsh relation, possibly a cousin IIRC. A
 couple of us even tried to track him down, I think we worked out he was
 a farmer or something.
 
 Right... So if he was in Wales, who was at 44 Buddle Lane Exeter or 
 whatever?
Either Bob's mum or sis sister-in-law. Bob is originally from Exeter.
Not sure but I think s-i-l's maiden name or 2nd married name was
Broughton. She was / is a babe though.



-- 
Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet)
Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Nev Young
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:21:26 +0100, Dave Whitmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:51 +0100 Wed, 15 Aug 01 19:18:40 BST, Nev
 Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:05:37 +0100, David Ledbury
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Any idea who Ken Elston is?
  Just wondering as he seemed to share an  email address with Samsboss?
 
 IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father.
 
 Is Bob's real name Elston then? Or is he a real you-know-what-I-mean,
 instead of someone who just acts like one? :-)
 
Or was it his dad's forename + mum's maiden name. Does it matter ? 

 And was it you, or Bob who wrote to me telling me Samsboss' name was
 'Brian'... haha.. almost had me fooled that did. It didn't sound like
 Bob at all, unless he was exercising multiple personalities as well.
I can neither admit or deny this. A bad memory can be useful at times
:-)

-- 
Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet)
Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Nev Young
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:47:59 +0100, Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 Gavin
 PS Community service Nev?! What did you do? ;)
I broke some little toerag's leg in a few places.
Long story you don't want to know and I don't want to remember.
Just don't make me angry, you won't like me if I'm angry. 

-- 
Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet)
Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Nev Young
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:47:14 +0100, Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Er, woops, erm my memory and geography fails me, I always thought Exeter 
 was in Wales *grins* (Don't shoot me, I'm Northern Irish ;)
I thought you lot shot each other (sorry !!!)

 You know, when I think back, Bob was one evil c*nt at times. I (and I 
 know others) had many heated arguments with him off this list (a few on 
 the list too), and the things he came out with to defend his lies still 
 make me angry. He was frankly full of crap (and this in no way says 
 anything bad about you Nev as the once or twice I've bought something 
 from you or spoken to you and from your posts on this list, I've always 
 thought you were a nice chap).
Well one thing I soon sorted out with S D Software was a no quibble
full momey refund. Apart from a major bug in unidos that nearly broke
me when I had to pay back a few hundred quid. But that work out ok cos
when the bug was fixed those people all bought the new one cos I was
such a nice chap.

Of course, it also explains why I'm not rich :-)


-- 
Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet)
Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk


RE: ASCD 0.91 WIP 2

2001-08-16 Thread Simon Owen
Aley Keprt wrote:
 Since *some* people still sending me annoying messages, I
 simple must release a new version including source code.

Heh!  Well you did say you'd release it with your next final version, so
it was only a casual enquiry about your previous offer  ;-)

Thanks for posting it anyway!

Si



RE: ASCD 0.90 W.I.P. (and anyone interested in MIDI)

2001-08-16 Thread Dave Laundon
Aley Keprt wrote:
 Thanks.
 I tried it but can't manage to get it work in WinCoupe (I need to test i
 there). Whenever I start playback, the message press symbol to exit
 shortly appears and then it immediately closes (going back to main menu),
 like I presses symbol shift. But I don't press anything.

Thanks for giving it a go...

It sounds like you are not loading an e-tracker file (there a one or two on
the disk).  The Midi-tracker file is just a bunch of settings specifying how
each instrument in the e-tracker file should be played (program number,
velocity, etc.).  So to hear anything you have to load both an e-tracker
file *and* its corresponding Midi-tracker file before pressing play.

 Other MIDI program MIDI Sequencer works in WinCoupe, but there are some
 other problems with it. I'd like to know whether the emulation isn't
 correct, or the original program is ehmm... not-very-good. It
 takes over 10
 seconds to redraw whole screen in edit mode, and whenever I start
 playback a
 very loud home-less tone is generated before starting the
 actual playback.

Yes, I remember MIDI Sequencer being quite slow!  A lot of the user
interface is in BASIC IIRC (as is my program!)

 Also, I think it wouldn't be very clever to use MIDI simulator in DOS,
 because it would degrade digital-audio playback quality. Of course, this
 doesn't affect using real MIDI devices like MPU401.

Btw.. SimCoupé does no internal sequencing at the moment to give correct
MIDI _output_ timing (it tries to get the timing as SAM sees it correctly of
course!) - it just writes the data straight out to Windows when it gets it.
An implementation would be a lot easier than managing the SAA output, but
has not been done yet...

 Adding MIDI interrupts for demos gives more sense. I'd like to see it.
 Please could you tell me where can I get those demos?

I can put mine up soon...  I might just, err, sort out the scrolly text
first..  :-)  I'll reply again when it's sorted.

I'm not sure if anyone else thought about using MIDI for timing...

 Note:
 PAL speed is 1/64MHz. MIDI speed is 1/32MHz. It means that 2 bits are
 transmitted per line.
 Am I right?

Yep, that's right...

 How many bits are transmitted to complete one byte? If you say
 interrupt is
 generated 5 lines after issuing MIDI out, it means that one or two
 (start/)stop bits are added to each byte. I assume MIDI out interrupts are
 generated on line basis, exactly as the line and frame interrupts. Am I
 right?

Two extra bits are sent, yes.  The interrupts are not linked to screen lines
though.  When an output is made to a MIDI port the transmission starts
more-or-less straight away...  although the MIDI hardware seems to have a
resolution of 32 T-States (apparently at offsets of 12, 44, 76, etc from the
beginning of the frame).  The interrupt occurs one half-bit (96 T-States)
before the transmission completes, and lasts for those last 96 T-States (so,
shorter than other interrupts).  The TXFMST bit in LPEN is set throughout
the transmission, and outputting to the MIDI port is ignored if a byte is
already in the process of being sent.

Dave.

 Aley



Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Gavin Smith

On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 10:09  pm, Mark Sturdy wrote:




You know, when I think back, Bob was one evil c*nt at times. (etc...)


Oh, shut up.  Yes he was utterly infuriating at times, and probably 
living in a complete fantasy world - all in all, a pretty silly man - 
but I've never seen why that makes him so worth getting wound up 
about.  My feeling on people STILL gnashing their teeth about the fact 
that he pissed various people about in the mid-90s, failed to make West 
Coast Computers bigger than Apple, and then made various things up in 
attempts to explain this, is the same as it was last time I left this 
list 3 years ago - vis, that they could possibly do to get out a bit 
more.  Get a grip, Gavin.


Er I've got a grip, I was simply pointing out that for once we have 
confirmation and all the times he f*cked people over, ripped them off, 
owed them money and denied it, slagged them off in public, lied about 
them...and now we know we were in the right (at least on this issue). I 
mean can you remember just how long all this crap went on for? I'm 
entitled to two sentences to say how I feel about him now.


Gavin


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Gavin Smith

On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 12:18  am, Paul Walker wrote:


On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:04:00AM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:


mean can you remember just how long all this crap went on for? I'm
entitled to two sentences to say how I feel about him now.


Actually, I'm with Mark on this; I'm surprised you feel anything about 
him
now. It's a long time ago this happened; Bob, Format, the Sam, etc. 
aren't
relevant to anything any longer. Let him go, forget him, otherwise 
you're

just wasting energy thinking about him.


God, I only said two sentences! :) It's not like I lie awake thinking 
about him! *shudder* And this is a SAM mailing list and as he was one of 
the biggest figures in the scene, people are bound to talk about him. Oh 
and the SAM, irrelevant as you might think it is. So stop worrying about 
me, I'm alright ;)


Gavin


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread David Ledbury

- Original Message -
From: Paul Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Who's Ken Elston?


 On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:04:00AM +0100, Gavin Smith wrote:

  mean can you remember just how long all this crap went on for? I'm
  entitled to two sentences to say how I feel about him now.

 Actually, I'm with Mark on this; I'm surprised you feel anything about him
 now. It's a long time ago this happened; Bob, Format, the Sam, etc. aren't
 relevant to anything any longer. Let him go, forget him, otherwise you're
 just wasting energy thinking about him.

Slander I can't forgive.

Don't wish him harm - particularly if he's ill - but I cant forgive him
though.




Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Gavin Smith
On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 10:44  pm, Nev Young wrote:

Er, woops, erm my memory and geography fails me, I always thought Exeter 
was in Wales *grins* (Don't shoot me, I'm Northern Irish ;)
I thought you lot shot each other (sorry !!!)

Haven't you heard about the ceasefire? *coughs*

Well one thing I soon sorted out with S D Software was a no quibble
full momey refund. Apart from a major bug in unidos that nearly broke
me when I had to pay back a few hundred quid. But that work out ok cos
when the bug was fixed those people all bought the new one cos I was
such a nice chap.

No quibble apart from a broken leg? :) I sent an IDE interface back to you one time cos I couldn't get it to work and you were good to your word and helped me best you could. You examined it and said there was nothing wrong with it and as I changed the cable etc, I thought the fault was with my SAMmy. Turns out it was the power supply you supplied - looks like it's working, spins up the hard drive etc, just fails to provide enough power to read the data off the disk reliably :) Only found this out last year when I tried using the supply for the Atom interface. 

Gavin

Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Simon Cooke
From: Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Any idea who Ken Elston is?
  Just wondering as he seemed to share an  email address with Samsboss?

 IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father.

 Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of
 my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here.

The CHEEK of it!

Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to switch
the SAM into Spectrum mode.

Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name Ken
Elston.

And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off.

There's not that many ways to write that switch code (it's only 15 bytes or
so)... but really 

Si




Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Gavin Smith

On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 03:31  am, Simon Cooke wrote:

Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to 
switch

the SAM into Spectrum mode.

Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name Ken
Elston.

And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off.


Now come on Simon! How do we know that Ken *didn't* write it? ;)

Gavin
(Planning on going to bed some time night - maybe)


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Gavin Smith

On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 04:15  am, Simon Cooke wrote:


From: Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thursday, August 16, 2001, at 03:31  am, Simon Cooke wrote:


Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to
switch
the SAM into Spectrum mode.

Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name 
Ken

Elston.

And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off.


Now come on Simon! How do we know that Ken *didn't* write it? ;)


It's perfectly possible. Although what I'd like to know is why he said 
that
*I* plagiarised him. I'd always assumed that it was because it was 
such a
short piece of code that it was easy to duplicate by accident. Now, 
maybe, I

have to consider that he ripped it off from me - otherwise why would Bob
arrogantly start bitching about me ripping it off from a *fictitious*
person?


Simon, I was only joking mate! :) I'm sure you did write it, and if Bob 
had written it too, I'm sure he would have been more than glad to 
publish it under his own name, rather than using a pseudonym (after all, 
we were always pushing him to back up his claims of his coding 
abilities, which he never did to my knowledge). I was being sarcastic 
Si :)


Gavin
(REALLY thinking about bed now)


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Simon Cooke
From: Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Simon, I was only joking mate! :) I'm sure you did write it, and if Bob
 had written it too, I'm sure he would have been more than glad to
 publish it under his own name, rather than using a pseudonym (after all,
 we were always pushing him to back up his claims of his coding
 abilities, which he never did to my knowledge). I was being sarcastic
 Si :)

 Gavin
 (REALLY thinking about bed now)

*grins* I know you were joking :) I was supposed to be replying in a half
serious, half joking fashion, but it may have come across wrong. (I've had 9
hours of sleep or so in the last two days thanks to the Sierra layoffs...
sheesh... and I always get a bit... weird if I don't get enough sleep these
days. Call it nervous exhaustion. Call it bad comic timing. Call it...
well... erm... something!)

Speaking of which... *phew* I've still got a job. Thank god. I wish I could
say the same for 245 other people. :( This is the second time in less than a
year... I hope the economy stops stalling soon and levels out a bit.

... and on that note... what's everyone up to these days? I'm writing photo
editing software for Sierra, having just finished working on Generations
back in December (woohoo! we're the top Sierra/Vivendi productivity title in
the UK!!!). Currently I'm trying to work out if I can use DirectDraw to do a
photoeditor. Might be fun - and very very snappy :) Beat that, oh Apple
Benchmarketers :)

Other than that... although the site's not up yet (but the domain is), I'm
working on some other stuff - namely filming :)

http://www.popcornfilms.com is where the action will be eventually. We've
already done one thing ('The Sensual Art of Poledancing', believe it or not,
which me  a friend edited up and aired on Public Access [think Wayne's
World, but real life] on Monday), but that's under a different name - we
don't want to give the wrong impression if we make it big :)

Until then though... desperately trying to come up with an idea for a 5
minute short to get on the Sci-Fi channel.

Slight problem though... our producer[1] *did* get laid off, and may be
moving to Texas. Quite how a guy like Chris survives in Texas, I don't know.
I would have thought that the last place you'd want to go if you were (a)
loudmouthed and (b) black would be the highly racist/stuck-in-a-timewarp
Deep South. But hey... I wish him well.

Si
[1] I'm director/editor/screenwriter/lighting/grip, my partner in this
wonderful venture Steve is
cinematographer/lighting/sound/screenwriter/executive producer (which I
guess, strictly, we all are...), and Chris is
cinematographer/screenwriter/editor/producer. And he's a damn good producer.
By the way, for the uninitiated amongst you, a grip is someone who (amongst
other things) holds 1/2stone microphone on the end of a 12 foot fishing pole
over their head for several hours at a time while everyone else does fun
stuff.



OT: Sci-Fi (Was: Who's Ken Elston?)

2001-08-16 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:17:43 -0700 Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Until then though... desperately trying to come up with an idea for a 5
 minute short to get on the Sci-Fi channel.

OK! That's it. How can I get Sci-Fi channel here in Norway?

 -Frode



Re: Sci-Fi (Was: Who's Ken Elston?)

2001-08-16 Thread Simon Cooke
Not a clue... they appear to be sort of a franchise; certainly, the UK SciFi
channel (at least in the past) is a lot different to the US one.

Digital Satellite is probably your best bet.

- Original Message -
From: Frode Tenneboe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: OT: Sci-Fi (Was: Who's Ken Elston?)


 On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:17:43 -0700 Simon Cooke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Until then though... desperately trying to come up with an idea for a 5
  minute short to get on the Sci-Fi channel.

 OK! That's it. How can I get Sci-Fi channel here in Norway?

  -Frode




Re: Re: Sci-Fi (Was: Who's Ken Elston?)

2001-08-16 Thread Frode Tenneboe
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:14:23 -0700 Simon Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not a clue... they appear to be sort of a franchise; certainly, the UK SciFi
 channel (at least in the past) is a lot different to the US one.

They are different companies.

 Digital Satellite is probably your best bet.

Yes, but Sky/SciFi used to use a peculiar decoder. Is Sky Digital
still doing that? 

 -Frode



Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Nev Young
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:31:29 -0700, Simon Cooke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Nev Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Any idea who Ken Elston is?
   Just wondering as he seemed to share an  email address with Samsboss?
 
  IIRC Mr R P Brenchley's father.
 
  Bob used the name as a pseudonym in format, he even published some of
  my stuff under that name, and later as an alias on here.
 
 The CHEEK of it!
 
 Once upon a time, I wrote (and published) a short piece of code to switch
 the SAM into Spectrum mode.
 
 Bob published an (identical) piece of code in Format under the name Ken
 Elston.
 
 And claimed that I'd ripped Ken off.
 
 There's not that many ways to write that switch code (it's only 15 bytes or
 so)... but really 
 
Actually that was a bit of code I wrote during one of my visits to MGT
in Swansea during the machine's development and he published it under
KE's name. IIRC it was later used by Ian Spencer in the Specmaker
emulator he wrote for SAM. But as you rightly say it's only a few
bytes and thus easily duplicated by accident. As for me, I don't care.
What's a dozen or so instructions weighed against the millions of
lines of code I've done in my lifetime.  

-- 
Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet)
Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk


Re: Who's Ken Elston?

2001-08-16 Thread Nev Young
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:26:04 +0100, Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Wednesday, August 15, 2001, at 10:44  pm, Nev Young wrote:
 
  Er, woops, erm my memory and geography fails me, I always thought 
  Exeter
  was in Wales *grins* (Don't shoot me, I'm Northern Irish ;)
  I thought you lot shot each other (sorry !!!)
 
 Haven't you heard about the ceasefire? *coughs*
 
  Well one thing I soon sorted out with S D Software was a no quibble
  full momey refund. Apart from a major bug in unidos that nearly broke
  me when I had to pay back a few hundred quid. But that work out ok cos
  when the bug was fixed those people all bought the new one cos I was
  such a nice chap.
 
 No quibble apart from a broken leg? :) I sent an IDE interface back to 
 you one time cos I couldn't get it to work and you were good to your 
 word and helped me best you could. You examined it and said there was 
 nothing wrong with it and as I changed the cable etc, I thought the 
 fault was with my SAMmy. Turns out it was the power supply you 
 supplied - looks like it's working, spins up the hard drive etc, just 
 fails to provide enough power to read the data off the disk reliably :) 
 Only found this out last year when I tried using the supply for the Atom 
 interface.
 
Send it back and I'll refund your money.

-- 
Nev - no longer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and getting no spam at all (yet)
Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk