RE: [Samba] Re: samba on distro...

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Tepaske
Server versions ie RedHat enterprise usually come with support, the install
is different better doco the list goes on. There is no real difference
between a free distro such as red hat 9 and say enterprise other than you
may need to do more work in getting things to work or to keep the system
updated.

Cheers

Chris Tepaske

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From: Ivo Dancet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 12:02 AM
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Subject: [Samba] Re: samba on distro...

Thanks for the answers,

Are there certain extra's for payed distros if they run as server, or 
are the distro's only extra featured in terms of configuration.
In other words: are free versions as stable as their costly 
counterparts? Can they handle the same Samba-loads of 200 users. Will 
free versions go on their knees if those 200 log in in the same minute? 
(if hardware is ideal - gigabit backbone, hp proliant server 3GHz, 1Gig 
RAM)
Why should I want to buy a server-version if I can get a distro for free...

Ivo Dancet



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[Samba] Re: samba on distro...

2004-04-14 Thread Ivo Dancet
Thanks for the answers,

Are there certain extra's for payed distros if they run as server, or 
are the distro's only extra featured in terms of configuration.
In other words: are free versions as stable as their costly 
counterparts? Can they handle the same Samba-loads of 200 users. Will 
free versions go on their knees if those 200 log in in the same minute? 
(if hardware is ideal - gigabit backbone, hp proliant server 3GHz, 1Gig 
RAM)
Why should I want to buy a server-version if I can get a distro for free...

Ivo Dancet

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Re: [Samba] Re: samba on distro...

2004-04-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
 Are there certain extra's for payed distros if they run as server, or 
 are the distro's only extra featured in terms of configuration.
 In other words: are free versions as stable as their costly 
 counterparts? 

Sometimes.  Usually they have better support.  Sometimes they have specially
patched kernels.

 Can they handle the same Samba-loads of 200 users. Will 
 free versions go on their knees if those 200 log in in the same minute? 

No way.  Three samba servers here, all RedHat 9 with SGI's XFS kernels.  Handle
~250 users with a load average of 0.20 (thats the peak on the PDC while everyone
is logging in and loading their roaming profiles at 8-9am).  The PDC is also the
OpenLDAP master.

 (if hardware is ideal - gigabit backbone, hp proliant server 3GHz, 1Gig 
 RAM)
 Why should I want to buy a server-version if I can get a distro for free...

Do you want the support?  Some shops use support, others don't.  For a mere 200
users I certainly wouldn't bother.

P.S. My samba boxes are all less powerful hardware than yours.
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RE: [Samba] Re: samba on distro...

2004-04-14 Thread Jason Balicki
Why should I want to buy a server-version if I can get a 
distro for free...

Vendor support.  You've got someone to call and ask if something's
not working.

Honestly, though, I can say with great confidence that I have NEVER
received a fix by calling a vendor support line for anything.  I've
always either figured it out myself or found good information online
while the support person walks me through a redundant checklist.

As a matter of fact, I always use the tech support lines only as
a last resort -- knowing full well that if I haven't found anything
yet, I'm pretty much doomed by the time I call.  (Aside: MS is,
really, the worst:  I upgraded some W2k boxes to WinXP and it
broke some stuff in the registry (security keys).  The MS fix?
Either pay them hourly to fix their malfunctioning software or
Install from scratch.  What's the point of an upgrade if you
have to install from scratch?  Why should I have to pay for
their screwup?  Ok, I'm ranting now, I'll stop.)

However, I've never had to call for support from a Linux distro vendor.
I'd like to think it would be better than most, but my gut instinct is
that I'll have the same experience I've always had:  Um, reformat?

I guess I'm saying go with a free distro.  :)

HTH,

--J(K)

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RE: [Samba] Re: samba on distro...

2004-04-14 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 10:43, Jason Balicki wrote:
 Why should I want to buy a server-version if I can get a 
 distro for free...
 
 I guess I'm saying go with a free distro.  :)
 
 HTH,

I think with Redhat buying the full version gets you access to RHN, It
tracks your actual config and allows you to easily download and install
updated (and tested) RPMs.  I think that is their main selling feature.

With SUSE, I think the full version has monitoring tools that are not
included in even the PRO version.  Likely non-GPL stuff, but I'm not
sure.

Another issue is ACLs.  I don't think the full Redhat release supports
them.  I don't know about Fedora.

Greg
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