Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
I managed to download from Resolvo website and installed on a Suse Server. Was able to create new Samba shares and users via the management console. Anyone tried the Migration Tool? I don't have a NT 4 Server running, but it'll be cool if the tool worked. Regards, Alysson On 02/09/05, Bruno Guerreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Trying to download the tar.gz gives me a 404. Do you know any other place to get it? Thanks, Bruno Guerreiro -Original Message- From: Alysson Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: sexta-feira, 2 de Setembro de 2005 7:43 To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations? I came across this product called Quro http://www.resolvo.com/products/quro/index.htm It seems to have a web-based centralised management console that allows you to configure ldap and samba without having to edit smb.conf file. It supposedly comes with a migration tool to migrate all NT/2000 server users profiles to a Linux server too. Regards, Alysson Well, basically I only wanted to know how would it look if we wanted one day to switch the whole company or half of it to Linux workstations. So I can see, there are lots of approaches, but there are some serious problems: - no standard, as Samba in a Windows world (i.e., widely used) - laptop users will have a problem if they are out of the company building - have to engineer, build, test, everything from scratch; with Samba, 90% of work is editing the smb.conf file What we talk about is a little not very specific to this Samba group, but certainly it is nice to hear how the things can be solved in the UNIX/Linux environment. -- Tomek http://wpkg.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
I came across this product called Quro http://www.resolvo.com/products/quro/index.htm It seems to have a web-based centralised management console that allows you to configure ldap and samba without having to edit smb.conf file. It supposedly comes with a migration tool to migrate all NT/2000 server users profiles to a Linux server too. Regards, Alysson Well, basically I only wanted to know how would it look if we wanted one day to switch the whole company or half of it to Linux workstations. So I can see, there are lots of approaches, but there are some serious problems: - no standard, as Samba in a Windows world (i.e., widely used) - laptop users will have a problem if they are out of the company building - have to engineer, build, test, everything from scratch; with Samba, 90% of work is editing the smb.conf file What we talk about is a little not very specific to this Samba group, but certainly it is nice to hear how the things can be solved in the UNIX/Linux environment. -- Tomek http://wpkg.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
Hi, Trying to download the tar.gz gives me a 404. Do you know any other place to get it? Thanks, Bruno Guerreiro -Original Message- From: Alysson Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: sexta-feira, 2 de Setembro de 2005 7:43 To: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations? I came across this product called Quro http://www.resolvo.com/products/quro/index.htm It seems to have a web-based centralised management console that allows you to configure ldap and samba without having to edit smb.conf file. It supposedly comes with a migration tool to migrate all NT/2000 server users profiles to a Linux server too. Regards, Alysson Well, basically I only wanted to know how would it look if we wanted one day to switch the whole company or half of it to Linux workstations. So I can see, there are lots of approaches, but there are some serious problems: - no standard, as Samba in a Windows world (i.e., widely used) - laptop users will have a problem if they are out of the company building - have to engineer, build, test, everything from scratch; with Samba, 90% of work is editing the smb.conf file What we talk about is a little not very specific to this Samba group, but certainly it is nice to hear how the things can be solved in the UNIX/Linux environment. -- Tomek http://wpkg.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Nathan Vidican wrote: If one were to standardize on a specific window manager/desktop environment, one could accomplish much of the same effect as 'windows domain control', including some control over the desktop environment/settings. Given the following example for kde: Typical Linux Desktop: /home mounted via NFS - user homedirs exist in NFS share /home/kde - either simlink'd or configured at compile time to the equivelent of /usr/local/share/kde, (kde 'default'/'master' settings) Kiosk would be better for this. Users, groups, passwords, MTA aliases, etc.. stored in LDAP, accessed using pam_ldap nss_ldap combined. Poof! - You've got yourself a 'linux domain controller', assuming the end-user never has root access, you could with a little work really tweak what they can and cannot access using a given window manager/desktop environment by write-protecting config files, etc. Well, assuming KDE ... you may also be able to have KDE settings in LDAP: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101716 Regards, Buchan -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
[Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
I was wondering, if it's possible to set up Samba as a sort of a domain controller for Linux workstations? I'm thinking of benefits like roaming profiles, managing printers etc. Or perhaps for Linux there are better choices than Samba, when it comes to the office / school use (many users, many classrooms, many workstations etc.)? -- Tomek http://wpkg.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
you dont need samba. in this case use a ldap for authentification and mount the homes of each users per nfs. we use the smbldap tools from idealix to manage users in ldap. i have it in our firm so and it works quit nice. hope that helps ;-) Am Montag, 29. August 2005 11:30 schrieb Tomasz Chmielewski: I was wondering, if it's possible to set up Samba as a sort of a domain controller for Linux workstations? I'm thinking of benefits like roaming profiles, managing printers etc. Or perhaps for Linux there are better choices than Samba, when it comes to the office / school use (many users, many classrooms, many workstations etc.)? -- Tomek http://wpkg.org pgpnTIezhtZUN.pgp Description: PGP signature -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you dont need samba. in this case use a ldap for authentification and mount the homes of each users per nfs. we use the smbldap tools from idealix to manage users in ldap. i have it in our firm so and it works quit nice. but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) in that case it would perhaps make more sense to use some old computers as terminals (+nice LCD display), than buy new ones as workstations? -- Tomek http://wpkg.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
you dont need samba. in this case use a ldap for authentification and mount the homes of each users per nfs. we use the smbldap tools from idealix to manage users in ldap. i have it in our firm so and it works quit nice. We do something similiar, our LINUX workstations and services authenticate against and use information from an LDAP directory that is also our Samba SAM for windows workstations. but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. in that case it would perhaps make more sense to use some old computers as terminals (+nice LCD display), than buy new ones as workstations? If you have a high speed LAN LTSP works very nicely. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
no, you get roaming profiles with nfs. just add a line in /etc/fstab for each client. or you can do it with smb_mount module from pam with ldap access. hm, about how many clients are we speaking? if you decide a terminal solution you should be thinking of a good network and that the servers can push the complete traffic from the applications. Am Montag, 29. August 2005 15:04 schrieben Sie: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you dont need samba. in this case use a ldap for authentification and mount the homes of each users per nfs. we use the smbldap tools from idealix to manage users in ldap. i have it in our firm so and it works quit nice. but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) in that case it would perhaps make more sense to use some old computers as terminals (+nice LCD display), than buy new ones as workstations? pgps8WDaq8hO1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. What about a logon script which runs unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) to synchronize? -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
Quoting Jeff Saxton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What do laptops do when they are out of the office if using nfs/cifs mounted home directories? Will they use the same profile or will a new one be created? Although I have not tried it (I intend to do it next week, when I'm at the office again), using unison you can have the same level of functionality you have with Windows 2003 remote profiles. How about nfs/cifs mounhted home directories, that's worked for quite some time :) Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. What about a logon script which runs unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) to synchronize? -- Jeff Saxton SenSage, Inc. 55 Hawthorne Lane Suite 700 San Francisco, CA 94105 Phone: 415.808.5900 Fax:415.371.1385 Direct: 415-808-5921 Cell: 415-640-6392 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. What about a logon script which runs unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) to synchronize? File syncronization does not equal 1:1 the functionality of roaming profiles. Roaming profiles in conjunction with system policies let the admin extert a great deal of control over the user's experience - this isn't really possible with the current state of things on the LINUX desktop. So wether the answer to the posters questions is yes or no depends specifically on what he/she is looking to do. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
If one were to standardize on a specific window manager/desktop environment, one could accomplish much of the same effect as 'windows domain control', including some control over the desktop environment/settings. Given the following example for kde: Typical Linux Desktop: /home mounted via NFS - user homedirs exist in NFS share /home/kde - either simlink'd or configured at compile time to the equivelent of /usr/local/share/kde, (kde 'default'/'master' settings) Users, groups, passwords, MTA aliases, etc.. stored in LDAP, accessed using pam_ldap nss_ldap combined. Poof! - You've got yourself a 'linux domain controller', assuming the end-user never has root access, you could with a little work really tweak what they can and cannot access using a given window manager/desktop environment by write-protecting config files, etc. -- Nathan Vidican [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsor Match Plate Tool Ltd. http://www.wmptl.com/ On Monday 29 August 2005 13:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ncronization does not equal 1:1 the functionality of roaming profiles. Roaming profiles in conjunction with system policies let the admin extert a great deal of control over the user's experience - this isn't really possible -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
you dont need samba. in this case use a ldap for authentification and mount the homes of each users per nfs. we use the smbldap tools from idealix to manage users in ldap. i have it in our firm so and it works quit nice. hope that helps ;-) Am Montag, 29. August 2005 11:30 schrieb Tomasz Chmielewski: I was wondering, if it's possible to set up Samba as a sort of a domain controller for Linux workstations? I'm thinking of benefits like roaming profiles, managing printers etc. Or perhaps for Linux there are better choices than Samba, when it comes to the office / school use (many users, many classrooms, many workstations etc.)? -- Tomek http://wpkg.org pgpbqTFu6pP41.pgp Description: PGP signature -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 13:46 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. What about a logon script which runs unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) to synchronize? File syncronization does not equal 1:1 the functionality of roaming profiles. Roaming profiles in conjunction with system policies let the admin extert a great deal of control over the user's experience - this isn't really possible with the current state of things on the LINUX desktop. So wether the answer to the posters questions is yes or no depends specifically on what he/she is looking to do. A look at KDE's kioskmode might be worthwhile in this regard. Tarjei This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Tarjei Huse [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
How about nfs/cifs mounhted home directories, that's worked for quite some time :) Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. What about a logon script which runs unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) to synchronize? -- Jeff Saxton SenSage, Inc. 55 Hawthorne Lane Suite 700 San Francisco, CA 94105 Phone: 415.808.5900 Fax:415.371.1385 Direct: 415-808-5921 Cell: 415-640-6392 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
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Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. What about a logon script which runs unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) to synchronize? File syncronization does not equal 1:1 the functionality of roaming profiles. Roaming profiles in conjunction with system policies let the admin extert a great deal of control over the user's experience - this isn't really possible with the current state of things on the LINUX desktop. So wether the answer to the posters questions is yes or no depends specifically on what he/she is looking to do. Well, basically I only wanted to know how would it look if we wanted one day to switch the whole company or half of it to Linux workstations. So I can see, there are lots of approaches, but there are some serious problems: - no standard, as Samba in a Windows world (i.e., widely used) - laptop users will have a problem if they are out of the company building - have to engineer, build, test, everything from scratch; with Samba, 90% of work is editing the smb.conf file What we talk about is a little not very specific to this Samba group, but certainly it is nice to hear how the things can be solved in the UNIX/Linux environment. -- Tomek http://wpkg.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Samba as a domain controller for Linux workstations?
:-) or automount with nis in combination with ldap and autofs maps things ;) Am Montag, 29. August 2005 18:43 schrieb Jeff Saxton: How about nfs/cifs mounhted home directories, that's worked for quite some time :) Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but then, no roaming profiles, right? well, one less thing to worry about :) Well, LINUX doesn't have anything like a roaming profile for better or worse. Current LINUX desktop environments don't much lend themselves to management. What about a logon script which runs unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) to synchronize? -- Jeff Saxton SenSage, Inc. 55 Hawthorne Lane Suite 700 San Francisco, CA 94105 Phone: 415.808.5900 Fax:415.371.1385 Direct: 415-808-5921 Cell: 415-640-6392 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
