Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?
It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk. Are you serious? Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any computer. Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the samba share. Just my experience. If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the whole profile has to be copied across the network into a local profile cache, that can be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time taken to log onto and off the network. Brandon Mercer -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?
I only would like to put into consideration that I corrupted my outlook.pst file and lost a lot of messages while I had outlook open and the client lost connection due to service maintenance on the linux server. And the Inbox-Repair-Tool from Microsoft didnt do a good job at all to resume the information. kind regardez Florian Stahl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brandon Mercer Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:58 PM To: John H Terpstra Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vizitiu, Ciprian Subject: Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't? It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk. Are you serious? Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any computer. Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the samba share. Just my experience. If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the whole profile has to be copied across the network into a local profile cache, that can be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time taken to log onto and off the network. Brandon Mercer -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?
Maintenance shouldve only been performed when everyone was out of the files. There is an easy way to see who is in what files. I dont care if its linux or windows, if you pull thge server while the file is open, the file will be corrupt. -Original Message- From: Florian Stahl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't? I only would like to put into consideration that I corrupted my outlook.pst file and lost a lot of messages while I had outlook open and the client lost connection due to service maintenance on the linux server. And the Inbox-Repair-Tool from Microsoft didnt do a good job at all to resume the information. kind regardez Florian Stahl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brandon Mercer Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:58 PM To: John H Terpstra Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vizitiu, Ciprian Subject: Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't? It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk. Are you serious? Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any computer. Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the samba share. Just my experience. If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the whole profile has to be copied across the network into a local profile cache, that can be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time taken to log onto and off the network. Brandon Mercer -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?
I only would like to put into consideration that I corrupted my outlook.pst file and lost a lot of messages while I had outlook open and the client lost connection due to service maintenance on the linux server. Are oplocks turned off? See chapter 14 of the Samba-3 HOWTO collection, File and Record Locking. Very good reading. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM mikemac at us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061 -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brandon Mercer wrote: |It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that |performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk. | | | Are you serious? Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any | computer. Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that | your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the | samba share. Just my experience. provided you're on gigabit. try that on a heavily loaded 100Mbps lan. - -- *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP public key: http://www.amakuru.net/dmorel.asc 28192ef126bc871757cb7d97f4a44536 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+5zaPqr7QF98duCMRApsWAJ9y37GPhjoX9XpfdsU8HAsIWV9RRgCeORVe S9IsloiMwQLw9u2KCgImGg8= =ka0X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?
Hello, On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 04:00:22PM +0200, Vizitiu, Ciprian wrote: I only would like to put into consideration that I corrupted my outlook.pst file and lost a lot of messages while I had outlook open and the client lost connection due to service maintenance on the linux server. Are oplocks turned off? See chapter 14 of the Samba-3 HOWTO collection, File and Record Locking. Very good reading. So to sum it up: Outlook .psts on a samba share are ok as long as you don't pull the plug (but the electricity company can do that... Not all my WS have UPSs) so to be on the safe side disable oplocks. From smb.conf man it looks like it can't be done on a per file basis so I'll have to create a separate share. Given the sizes (300 to 800MB each, 20 users) will ext3 do or I'll have to resort to smth more exotic like JVS/RieserFS? See man smb.conf for the veto oplock files parameter: In my experience ext3 will do. I've read on this list that Reiser and xfs are good if you have a lot of (small) files to share. Regards, Wolfi -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Vizitiu, Ciprian wrote: Hi listers. People here are trying to push me into moving the Outlook .psts on a samba share for back-up reasons. I'd like to hear your experience about this: is it feasible in the size of 20 users with 400...800MB each .pst? Any special settings on samba side? Something special that I should pay attention to? Or is just NO? It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk. If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the whole profile has to be copied across the network into a local profile cache, that can be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time taken to log onto and off the network. I prefer to put the .pst files in a user share (the user's home directory is a good place). Check out the new Samba-3 HOWTO chapter on policies and the one on profiles to find how to redirect your .pst file to a share. Cheers, John T. -- John H Terpstra Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba