Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?

2003-06-11 Thread Brandon Mercer

 It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that
 performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk.

Are you serious?  Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any
computer.  Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that
your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the
samba share.  Just my experience.  

 If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the whole profile
 has to be copied across the network into a local profile cache, that can
 be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time taken to log onto
 and off the network.

Brandon Mercer


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RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?

2003-06-11 Thread Florian Stahl
I only would like to put into consideration that I corrupted my outlook.pst
file
and lost a lot of messages while I had outlook open and the client lost
connection
due to service maintenance on the linux server.

And the Inbox-Repair-Tool from Microsoft didnt do a good job at all to
resume the information.

kind regardez

Florian Stahl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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  It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that
  performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk.

 Are you serious?  Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any
 computer.  Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that
 your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the
 samba share.  Just my experience.

  If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the
 whole profile
  has to be copied across the network into a local profile
 cache, that can
  be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time
 taken to log onto
  and off the network.

 Brandon Mercer


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RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?

2003-06-11 Thread Brandon Lederer
Maintenance shouldve only been performed when everyone was out of the files.
There is an easy way to see who is in what files.  I dont care if its linux
or windows, if you pull thge server while the file is open, the file will be
corrupt.

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Subject: RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?


I only would like to put into consideration that I corrupted my outlook.pst
file
and lost a lot of messages while I had outlook open and the client lost
connection
due to service maintenance on the linux server.

And the Inbox-Repair-Tool from Microsoft didnt do a good job at all to
resume the information.

kind regardez

Florian Stahl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Brandon Mercer
 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:58 PM
 To: John H Terpstra
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vizitiu, Ciprian
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?



  It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that
  performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk.

 Are you serious?  Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any
 computer.  Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that
 your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the
 samba share.  Just my experience.

  If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the
 whole profile
  has to be copied across the network into a local profile
 cache, that can
  be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time
 taken to log onto
  and off the network.

 Brandon Mercer


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RE: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?

2003-06-11 Thread Michael MacIsaac





 I only would like to put into consideration that
 I corrupted my outlook.pst file and lost a lot of
 messages while I had outlook open and the client lost
 connection due to service maintenance on the linux server.

Are oplocks turned off?  See chapter 14 of the Samba-3 HOWTO collection,
File and Record Locking.  Very good reading.

  -Mike MacIsaac, IBM  mikemac at us.ibm.com   (845) 433-7061

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Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?

2003-06-11 Thread David Morel
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Brandon Mercer wrote:
|It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that
|performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk.
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| Are you serious?  Hard disks are the slowest operating part of any
| computer.  Unless your workstations have the Ultra320 Raid setups that
| your servers do I find that the performance is better when using the
| samba share.  Just my experience.
provided you're on gigabit. try that on a heavily loaded 100Mbps lan.

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Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?

2003-06-11 Thread Wolfram Quester
Hello,

On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 04:00:22PM +0200, Vizitiu, Ciprian wrote:
 
  
   I only would like to put into consideration that
   I corrupted my outlook.pst file and lost a lot of
   messages while I had outlook open and the client lost 
  connection due 
   to service maintenance on the linux server.
  
  Are oplocks turned off?  See chapter 14 of the Samba-3 HOWTO 
  collection, File and Record Locking.  Very good reading.
  
 
 So to sum it up: Outlook .psts on a samba share are ok as long as you don't
 pull the plug (but the electricity company can do that... Not all my WS have
 UPSs) so to be on the safe side disable oplocks. From smb.conf man it looks
 like it can't be done on a per file basis so I'll have to create a separate
 share. Given the sizes (300 to 800MB each, 20 users) will ext3 do or I'll
 have to resort to smth more exotic like JVS/RieserFS?

See man smb.conf for the veto oplock files parameter:

In my experience ext3 will do. I've read on this list that Reiser and xfs are good 
if you have a lot of (small) files to share.

Regards,

Wolfi
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Re: [Samba] Outlook .pst on a samba share; do or don't?

2003-06-10 Thread John H Terpstra
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Vizitiu, Ciprian wrote:


  Hi listers.

  People here are trying to push me into moving the Outlook .psts on a samba
 share for back-up reasons. I'd like to hear your experience about this: is
 it feasible in the size of 20 users with 400...800MB each .pst? Any special
 settings on samba side? Something special that I should pay attention to? Or
 is just NO?

It's OK to put the .pst files in a user share, just remember that
performance across the network is slower than to local hard disk.

If you leave the .pst file in the desktop profile then the whole profile
has to be copied across the network into a local profile cache, that can
be VERY slow also. Here the greater slowdown is the time taken to log onto
and off the network.

I prefer to put the .pst files in a user share (the user's home directory
is a good place). Check out the new Samba-3 HOWTO chapter on policies and
the one on profiles to find how to redirect your .pst file to a share.

Cheers,
John T.
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